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Hall of Merit: 1926 Results - Grant and Magee elected
After 27 elections without electing a Negro League player, The Hall of Merit elects its second in as many years in 1926. Frank Grant topped the voting with 736 points, moving past Joe McGinnity and Sherry Magee. Magee was elected as well, with 722 points.
Bobby Wallace finished 3rd with 653 points, edging McGinnity (651). McGinnity was the top returning vote getter, but slipped to 4th this time around.
Jimmy Sheckard finished 5th. Sam Thompson moved into 6th place, passing Bob Caruthers who finished 7th.
Completing the top 10 were Dickey Pearce, Lip Pike and newcomer Joe Jackson. Jackson was boycotted on several ballots due to his actions during the 1919 World Series, and should move up significantly in 1927.
RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1 5 Frank Grant 736 42.5 5 11 6 2 1 3 2 1 4 4 1 1 1.5
2 4 Sherry Magee 722 46 8 1 3 2 6 6 5 7 1 1 1 1 2 2
3 6 Bobby Wallace 653 41.5 5 5 4 5 4 3 3 3 3 1 2 1 2.5
4 3 Joe McGinnity 651 43 2 5 6 4 5 3 3 2 4 1 2 2 2 2
5 7 Jimmy Sheckard 581 39 1 5 3 5 3 3 4 3 3 2 1 3 1 2
6 9 Sam Thompson 522 35 4 2 7 3 1 1 1 2 3 2 1 3 3 1 1
7 8 Bob Caruthers 497 34 3 4 1 5 1 1 3 4 1 1 3 1 3 1 2
8 10 Dickey Pearce 488 30 4 6 3 1 2 2 3 1 2 2 2 1 1
9 11 Lip Pike 414 28 6 2 2 3 1 1 3 1 3 4 1 1
10 n/e Joe Jackson 410 23 6 4 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 1 1
11 13 Jake Beckley 363 27 1 1 3 5 3 4 1 1 1 2 1 3 1
12 12 George Van Haltren 361 29 2 1 3 3 1 2 2 2 1 1 3 3 3 2
13 14 Jimmy Ryan 312 25 2 1 1 3 3 1 2 6 2 2 1 1
14 15 Rube Waddell 294 25 2 1 2 1 3 4 2 1 4 2 2 1
15 17 Roger Bresnahan 262 24 1 1 2 1 1 3 3 2 1 3 2 4
16 16 Hughie Jennings 231 20 3 1 1 1 3 3 4 1 3
17 19 Clark Griffith 223 22 1 1 1 2 2 1 4 3 5 2
18 18 Hugh Duffy 219 20 2 3 2 1 6 2 2 1 1
19 21 Bill Monroe 212 18 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 3 3
20 23 Rube Foster 195 17 2 2 4 3 3 1 2
21 22 Mickey Welch 175 14 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 2
22 25 Cupid Childs 172 17 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 5 2
23 20 Pete Browning 164 12 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1
24 24 Tommy Leach 145 15 2 1 1 2 1 4 1 3
25 n/e Gavy Cravath* 134 12 1 2 1 2 2 1 1 2
26 n/e Larry Doyle 134 12 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 3
27 26 Charley Jones 121 9 2 2 1 2 1 1
28 27 Ed Williamson^ 112 12 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 2
29 28 Addie Joss 112 9.5 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 0.5
30 n/e Eddie Cicotte 97 7 1 2 1 2 1
31 32 Vic Willis 56 6 1 1 1 2 1
32 29 John McGraw 54 4 1 2 1
33 31 Frank Chace 52 5 2 1 1 1
34 30 Fielder Jones 46 5 1 1 1 1 1
35 33 Harry Wright 39 3 1 1 1
36 36 Tommy Bond 32 2 1 1
37 35 Jim McCormick 31 4 1 1 2
38 34 Lave Cross 27 2 1 1
39 43 Mike Tiernan 25 2 1 1
40 37 Herman Long 18 2 2
41 39T Tom York 16 1 1
42 38 Silver King 10 1 1
43 39T Tony Mullane 9 1 1
44 n/e Ray Chapman 8 1 1
45T 42 Levi Meyerle 6 1 1
45T -- Joe Tinker 6 1 1
47 -- Fred Dunlap 3 0.5 0.5
*Ahead on individual ballots 10-9. ^Ahead on individual ballots 11-10.
Dropped Out: Sol White 39T.
Joe Dimino
Posted: May 25, 2004 at 06:00 AM |
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The top new candidates (thanks DanG and Chris Cobb!):
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
287 73.1 1907 Ed Konetchy-1b (1947)
227 52.6 1908 Dode Paskert-CF (1959)
205 50.7 1910 Hippo Vaughn-P (1966)
189 48.4 1908 Slim Sallee-P (1950)
180 42.2 1910 Duffy Lewis-LF (1979)
161 44.9 1911 Ray Caldwell-P (1967)
155 38.0 1909 Dots Miller-1b/2b (1923)
143 37.9 1911 Lefty Tyler-P (1953)
106 28.8 1914 Braggo Roth-RF (1936)
Negro Leaguers
HF%—from expert voting in _Cool Papas and Double Duties_
BJ—Bill James positonal ranking in _NBJHBA_
MVP—Sum of Bill James’ best player and best pitcher awards and John Holway’s MVP and best pitcher awards
All-Star—number of times player designated as seasonal all-star by John Holway
HF% Career Name-pos (born) BJ MVP All-Star
68% 1901-25 Pete Hill-CF/LF (1880) #4 lf 2 5*
08% 1909-21 Frank Wickware-P (1888) 2 1*
00% 1914-21 Horace Jenkins-OF (??) 1 2*
Players Passing Away in 1926
HoMers
Age Elected
75 1914 Cal McVey-C/1B
50 1924 Eddie Plank-P
Candidates
Age Eligible
66 1901 Bill Hutchison-P
64 1899 George Pinkney-3B
63 1900 Danny Richardson-2B
60 1903 Lou Bierbauer-2B
Joe Dimino
Posted: May 24, 2004 at 10:12 AM |
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Inspired by David Foss’s comment in the 1926 Ballot Discussion:
“There could be a whole thread on what circumstances deserve “extra credit”.
—Negro League players
—WWI/WWII/Korea service
—Unfairly blacklisted (C Jones?)
—Reasonable hold out (HR Baker? GDavis?)
—Pre-farm-system minors (Galvin, Cravath, Grove)
—Strike (1981/1994)
—Got sick and died (Joss, Youngs)
—Nasty non-baseball illness (Sisler, Puckett?)
—Nasty baseball-related illness (Chapman, Conigliaro)
I’m inclined to only give full credit for the first two and partial credit of subjective magnitude for the next three.
Illnesses are tragic, but the line between illness & injury is bound to get very gray… slipper slope there.
Not sure about strikes… its a ways off before we deal with those…”
I’ll take them one-by-one with my ideas on each, re-ordered in terms of my personal scale:
—Negro League players - full credit, benefit of the doubt best guess
—Military service - reasonable credit based on best guess (interpolating with similar value players for missing years)
—Unfairly blacklisted (C Jones?) - reasonable credit based on best guess (interpolating with similar value players for missing years)
—Pre-farm-system minors (Galvin, Cravath, Grove) - reasonable credit based on their minor league stats, if the player was obviously of Major League caliber
—Strike (1981/1994) - straight line interpolation of season projected to 162 games.
—Major League season shorter than 162 games - straight line interpolation of season projected to 162 games.
—Reasonable hold out (HR Baker? GDavis?) - murky I’d say no credit, could be convinced otherwise.
—Got sick and died (Joss, Youngs) - illness has to be considered a ‘skill’ IMO. Could see it as a tie-breaker in a close race.
—Nasty non-baseball illness (Sisler, Puckett?) - illness has to be considered a ‘skill’ IMO. Could see it as a tie-breaker in a close race.
—Nasty baseball-related injury (Chapman, Conigliaro) - injury has to be considered a ‘skill’ IMO. Could see it as a tie-breaker in a close race.
Discuss :-)
Joe Dimino
Posted: May 21, 2004 at 08:26 AM |
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The 1926 Ballot. Top Newbies:
***1926 (May 16)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
294 80.3 1910 Joe Jackson-LF/RF (1951)
247 73.1 1908 Eddie Cicotte-P (1969)
289 59.0 1907 Larry Doyle-2b (1974)
202 51.8 1908 Gavvy Cravath-RF (1963)
174 43.1 1911 Claude Hendrix-P (1944)
171 43.1 1908 Buck Herzog-2b/3b/SS (1953)
148 51.6 1912 Ray Chapman-SS (1920)
191 35.7 1908 Fred Merkle-1b (1956)
127 46.5 1905 George McBride-SS (1973)
175 36.6 1914 Benny Kauff-CF (1961)
160 34.4 1910 Fred Luderus-1b (1961)
152 33.4 1912 Buck Weaver-SS/3b (1956)
123 36.4 1915 Happy Felsch-CF (1964)
129 35.8 1913 Dick Rudolph-P (1949)
089 19.5 1910 Bill Rariden-C (1942)
Does anyone have the list of newly eligible Negro Leaguers?
Don’t forget you can impose a one-year protest based on character issues, by not including players you otherwise would have voted for.
Joe Dimino
Posted: May 17, 2004 at 09:23 AM |
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Hall of Merit: 1925 Results - First Negro Leaguer Elected
The Hall of Merit has elected Grant Johnson and Mordecai Brown. Johnson is the first Negro Leaguer to honored.
Johnson edged Brown 780-766 in the voting. Joe McGinnity finished 3rd with 633 points. Bobby Wallace edged Frank Grant for 4th by one point (603-602) and newcomer Sherry Magee was right behind them in 6th with 587 points.
Jimmy Sheckard, Sam Thompson, Bob Caruthers and Dickey Pearce rounded out the top 10.
RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1 4 Home Run Johnson 780 44 8 8 6 5 4 1 2 2 3 1 2 1 1
2 3 Three Finger Brown 766 45 7 5 7 5 3 3 3 5 3 2 1 1
3 5 Joe McGinnity 633 41 2 5 1 5 6 5 3 5 3 3 2 1
4 7 Bobby Wallace 603 39 5 4 2 5 3 2 4 3 3 2 2 2 1 1
5 6 Frank Grant 602 39 3 3 6 8 3 2 2 1 3 3 2 1 2
6 n/e Sherry Magee 587 39 2 5 3 1 4 4 8 2 1 2 2 2 1 2
7 8 Jimmy Sheckard 516 37 2 6 3 1 7 3 3 2 3 2 2 2 1
8 9 Sam Thompson 467 31 5 2 2 4 1 3 2 1 3 1 1 3 2 1
9 10 Bob Caruthers 459 34 3 3 1 3 2 1 3 2 3 4 3 1 1 4
10 11 Dickey Pearce 426 26 2 5 3 2 2 3 4 1 1 2 1
11 12 Lip Pike 374 25 5 1 2 2 3 5 2 2 1 2
12 18 George Van Haltren 294 27 1 2 1 2 2 1 1 1 3 3 3 4 3
13 13 Jake Beckley 288 22 1 1 3 4 2 4 2 2 1 2
14 16 Jimmy Ryan 278 26 1 1 2 1 5 2 2 7 1 3 1
15 14 Rube Waddell 268 23 1 1 2 2 6 3 1 4 2 1
16 15 Hughie Jennings 229 20 1 1 2 1 1 1 3 3 1 1 4 1
17 19 Roger Bresnahan 227 20 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 4 1 3
18 17 Hugh Duffy 213 20 1 2 2 1 5 5 1 3
19 20 Clark Griffith 196 19 1 1 1 1 3 3 7 2
20 21 Bill Monroe 167 13 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2
21 22 Pete Browning 158 12 2 2 2 3 1 1 1
22 25 Mickey Welch 143 12 1 1 2 2 1 3 2
23 23 Rube Foster 134 12 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 1
24 26 Tommy Leach 122 15 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 6
25 24 Cupid Childs 122 13 1 1 2 1 3 1 4
26 27 Charley Jones 113 9 1 2 1 1 1 2 1
27 28 Ed Williamson 103 12 1 1 4 2 1 3
28 29 Addie Joss 94 8 1 1 3 1 1 1
29 34 Fielder Jones 55 6 2 2 1 1
30 30 John McGraw 54 4 1 3
31 31 Frank Chance 41 4 1 1 1 1
32 33 Vic Willis 37 4 1 3
33 32 Lave Cross 38 2 1 2
34 35 Harry Wright 36 2 1 1
35 36 Jim McCormick 32 4 1 1 1 1
36 39 Tommy Bond 22 2 1 1
37 37 Herman Long 19 2 1 1
38 38 Silver King 11 1 1
39T -- Tom York 8 1 1
39T 41T Tony Mullane 8 1 1
39T 40 Sol White 8 1 1
42 -- Levi Meyerle 7 1 1
43 41T Mike Tiernan 6 1 1
Dropped Out: Fred Dunlap (41T), Johnny Evers (41T).
Joe Dimino
Posted: May 16, 2004 at 05:43 AM |
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Okay, looks like I’ve figured out how to get to the old threads. Now I’ll need to open them all, and redo the old homepage’s links. I’ve also been taught how to keep a thread at the top of the list.
ETA for all of this is early next week. 1925 results should be up tonight.
Joe Dimino
Posted: May 12, 2004 at 02:07 PM |
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I can’t access the eligibility thread to see who’s eligible, can someone in the know post the list or email it to me? I’ll move it up front once I have it, thanks!
Edit 5/12:
***1926 (May 16)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
294 80.3 1910 Joe Jackson-LF/RF (1951)
247 73.1 1908 Eddie Cicotte-P (1969)
289 59.0 1907 Larry Doyle-2b (1974)
202 51.8 1908 Gavvy Cravath-RF (1963)
174 43.1 1911 Claude Hendrix-P (1944)
171 43.1 1908 Buck Herzog-2b/3b/SS (1953)
148 51.6 1912 Ray Chapman-SS (1920)
191 35.7 1908 Fred Merkle-1b (1956)
127 46.5 1905 George McBride-SS (1973)
175 36.6 1914 Benny Kauff-CF (1961)
160 34.4 1910 Fred Luderus-1b (1961)
152 33.4 1912 Buck Weaver-SS/3b (1956)
123 36.4 1915 Happy Felsch-CF (1964)
129 35.8 1913 Dick Rudolph-P (1949)
089 19.5 1910 Bill Rariden-C (1942)
Joe Dimino
Posted: May 11, 2004 at 05:47 AM |
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Two more join the club this year . . . who will they be?
Thanks to DanG for the death list . . . Frank Chance is the only person that received votes last year to have left us. No HoMers died. Active player Jake Daubert died in the offseason, he’ll be eligible in 1930.
Age Eligible
75 1898 Candy Cummings-P
73 1898 John Peters-SS
70 1898 Pop Snyder-C
67 1898 Fleet Walker-C
65 1898 Ed Swartwood-RF
65 1898 George Wood-LF
48 1918 Pat Moran-C/Mgr
47 1917 Frank Chance-1B
44 1917 Doc Gessler-RF
Upcoming Candidate
40 1930 Jake Daubert-1B
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 26, 2004 at 10:06 AM |
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Hall of Merit: 1924 Results: Crawford and Plank Cruise into Hall
Sam Crawford and Eddie Plank were easily elected to the Hall of Merit; each was in his second year of eligibility.
In an unprecendented turn of events, the top 13 finished in the exact same order as 1923.
Mordecai Brown and Grant Johnson are the top returning candidates for 1925.
RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1 2 Sam Crawford 1102 46 44 2
2 3 Eddie Plank 907 45 23 13 6 2 1
3 4 Mordecai Brown 620 41 5 3 3 9 5 4 2 3 2 2 1 1 1
4 5 Grant Johnson 604 39 3 8 4 9 5 1 1 3 1 3 1
5 6 Joe McGinnity 548 40 2 2 6 3 3 7 3 3 4 2 1 2 2
6 7 Frank Grant 488 36 2 5 4 7 3 4 2 1 2 3 2 1
7 8 Bobby Wallace 483 35 3 4 2 2 4 6 1 5 1 1 4 1 1
8 9 Jimmy Sheckard 417 33 2 2 5 2 2 4 5 4 1 1 4 1
9 10 Sam Thompson 391 29 1 5 2 2 3 4 1 3 1 1 2 1 3
10 11 Bob Caruthers 376 30 1 1 4 2 1 2 1 1 4 3 3 2 3 2
11 12 Dickey Pearce 277 19 2 5 1 1 3 2 1 2 1 1
12 13 Lip Pike 269 18 4 1 1 2 3 2 1 2 2
13 14 Jake Beckley 253 22 3 1 1 4 3 2 2 2 2 2
14 17 Rube Waddell 244 24 1 1 2 3 3 3 5 1 2 3
15 15 Hughie Jennings 228 20 1 2 1 1 1 3 4 2 2 2 1
16 16 Jimmy Ryan 223 23 1 1 2 3 2 1 2 6 2 3
17 19 Hugh Duffy 201 18 3 1 3 1 2 2 3 1 2
18 18 George Van Haltren 197 19 2 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 3 2
19 20 Roger Bresnahan 194 20 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 1 5 2
20 22 Clark Griffith 149 15 1 3 1 1 1 2 3 3
21 24 Bill Monroe 148 15 1 1 2 2 2 2 1 4
22 23 Pete Browning 135 12 1 1 5 2 1 1 1
23 21 Rube Foster 115 10 1 1 3 1 1 1 1 1
24 27 Cupid Childs 101 11 1 1 1 3 1 1 3
25 25 Mickey Welch 99 9 1 1 2 2 2 1
26 26 Tommy Leach 79 9 1 1 1 2 1 1 2
27 28 Charley Jones 67 6 2 2 1 1
28 33 Ed Williamson 60 7 1 1 3 2
29 29 Addie Joss 47 5 1 1 2 1
30 31 John McGraw 46 4 1 1 2
31 30 Frank Chance 43 4 1 1 1 1
32 32 Lave Cross 34 3 1 2
33 37 Vic Willis 32 4 1 1 2
34 38 Fielder Jones 30 4 1 3
35 35 Harry Wright 28 2 1 1
36 34 Jim McCormick 25 3 1 1 1
37 42 Herman Long 19 2 1 1
38 40 Silver King 15 2 1 1
39 -- Tommy Bond 13 1 1
40 43T Sol White 7 1 1
41T 41 Fred Dunlap 6 1 1
41T -- Mike Tiernan 6 1 1
41T -- Tony Mullane 6 1 1
41T 36 Johnny Evers 6 1 1
Dropped Out: Jim Whitney (39), Charlie Buffinton (43T)
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 22, 2004 at 07:10 AM |
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1925 (May 2)?elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
354 77.5 1904 Sherry Magee-LF (1929)
231 43.0 1905 Hal Chase-1b (1947)
214 42.1 1908 Heinie Zimmerman-3b (1969)
171 50.7 1904 Terry Turner-SS/3b (1960)
198 41.9 1904 Red Ames-P (1936)
161 31.8 1911 Red Smith-3b (1966)
132 34.5 1908 Jack Barry-SS (1961)
130 32.2 1910 Chick Gandil-1b (1970)
132 30.6 1905 Lefty Leifield-P (1970)
125 26.6 1912 Larry Cheney-P (1969)
104 27.6 1912 Lee Magee-CF/2b (1966)
110 24.0 1911 Vic Saier-1b (1967)
DanG sent me the death list, but due to email difficulties, I can’t post it now. Will edit this later today or tomorrow with that info.
I don’t believe any new Negro Leaguers are eligible, let me know if that’s mistaken . . .
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 19, 2004 at 10:15 AM |
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