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Hall of Merit: George Sisler and Ed Konetchy

Two outstanding first basemen who were contemporaries for a few years.

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 28, 2004 at 05:39 PM | 137 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1935 Election Results: The Hall of Merit Goes “Up the Middle” By Selecting Collins and Lloyd!

Second baseman Eddie Collins received the most votes this “year” in his second year of eligibility. The greatest at his position during the teens, “Cocky” had less competition this time since he didn’t have to fight it out with immortals Cobb and Speaker.

Another “monster” returnee from ‘34, Negro League shortstop John Henry Lloyd earned the highest percentage of votes ever for a second place inductee with 91.9%. The greatest shortstop of the 1910s, “Pop” became the sixth Negro Leaguer to be elected so far.

Negro League pitching legend Smokey Joe Williams is poised to be an inductee next year with an extremely strong third pace finish. Other returnees with much support were Cristóbal Torriente, Heinie Groh and Stan Coveleski.

Rounding out the top ten were Jake Beckley, Lip Pike, Max Carey (his first year of eligibility) and Rube Waddell.

Thanks to Don F, Evan Reich and Ron Wargo for their help double-checking the numbers!

RK   LY  Player               PTS  Bal   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
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 1    3  Eddie Collins       1220   52  39 10  3                                    
 2    4  John Henry Lloyd    1147   52  11 29 12                                    
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 3    5  Smokey Joe Williams 1005   52   2 13 35  1                 1               
 4    6  Cristóbal Torriente  830   51         1 36  4  4  2  2  1     1            
 5    7  Heinie Groh          518   44               6  5  7  4  5  3  1  2  2  6  3
 6    8  Stan Coveleski       495   43            1  3  5  7  2  5  1  5  6  3  2  3
 7    9  Jake Beckley         372   31            2  5  4  4        3  1  6  4  1  1
 8   10  Lip Pike             348   27            2  5  3  3  2  5  2     1  2  2   
 9  n/e  Max Carey            347   31            1  4  3  2  2  3  1  3  3  4  1  4
10   12  Rube Waddell         308   28               2  2  2  5  3  2  3  1  3  2  3
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11   15  Hughie Jennings      293   25            2  3  1  3  4     1  4  1  2  2  2
12   13  Clark Griffith       286   24               3  2  4  3  3  1  2     4  2   
13   11  George Van Haltren   285   25               4  3  1  3     2  6  1  1     4
14   14  Mickey Welch         278   21         1  4  3  3     2  1  1  2     3     1
15   16  Pete Browning        271   21            1  4  5  2  2     1  2  1  1  1  1
16   18  Cupid Childs         230   23            1  1     2  1  3  1  2  3  3  2  4
17   19  Hugh Duffy           215   20               1  3  1  1  2  3     2  4  2  1
18   20  Roger Bresnahan      185   20                  1  1  2  1  1  3  1  2  4  4
19   17  Jimmy Ryan           183   17                  2  1  1  3  3     3  2  2   
20   22  Jose Mendez          167   17                  1  2  1  1  1  1  3  4  1  2
21   21  Tommy Leach          134   13                     2  1     3  2  2  1  2   
22   25  Charley Jones        124   11               1  2     1  2  2           1  2
23   27  Larry Doyle          105    8               2     2  1  1  1     1         
24   23  Bill Monroe          102   11                        3     1     2     4  1
25   26  Harry Hooper          84    8                     1  2     1  1  1  1     1
26  n/e  Carl Mays             82    9                           1  1  3     2  1  1
27   24  Ben Taylor            78    8                        1  1  3        1     2
28   28  Spotswood Poles       76    7                  1     2  1  1              2
29   31  Bobby Veach           73    8                           2  1  1  1     1  2
30   33  Gavy Cravath          64    6                        1  2  1  1           1
31   29  Addie Joss            61    6                     1  1  1           1  2   
32   30  John McGraw           60    5            1              2  1        1      
33   37  Urban Shocker         49    6                                 1  2  1  1  1
34   35  Frank Chance          46    4                  1        1     1  1         
35   32  Fielder Jones         44    5                           1  1           3   
36   34  Ed Cicotte            41    4                     1        1  1           1
37   38  Vic Willis            38    4                           1  1     1        1
38   40  George J. Burns       36    4                        1           1     2   
39   36  Ed Williamson         35    4                                 1  2     1   
40   39  Lave Cross            27    2               1              1               
41   41T Ed Konetchy           22    2                              2               
42T  41T Wilbur Cooper         21    2                  1                          1
42T  50T Fred Dunlap           21    2                     1                    1   
44T n/e  Bingo DeMoss          19    2                                 1  1         
44T  43  Ray Schalk            19    2                                 1  1         
46   45  Donie Bush            13    1                        1                     
47T  46T Tommy Bond            11    1                              1               
47T  53T Sam Leever            11    1                              1               
49T  48T Tom York              10    1                                 1            
49T  50T Ross Youngs           10    1                                 1            
51T  50T Duke Farrell           9    1                                    1         
51T  --  Jules Thomas           9    1                                    1         
53T  44  Silver King            7    1                                          1   
53T  56  Tony Mullane           7    1                                          1   
53T  --  Bruce Petway           7    1                                          1   
56T  46T Mike Griffin           6    1                                             1
56T  53T Jim McCormick          6    1                                             1
56T  48T Mike Tiernan           6    1                                             1
Dropped Out: John Donaldson(53T).

 

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 28, 2004 at 04:08 PM | 8 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1936 Ballot Discussion

“Alex the Great” appears to be the diamond from this group. Harry Heilmann, George Sisler, Dave Bancroft and Negro Leaguer Oliver Marcelle are the other strong candidates of ‘36 (especially “Slug”).

1936 (October 10)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)

476 144.4 1911 Pete Alexander-P (1950)
356 98.1 1914 Harry Heilmann-RF (1951)
292 68.2 1915 George Sisler-1B (1973)
269 76.9 1915 Dave Bancroft-SS (1972)
235 65.6 1913 Cy Williams-CF (1974)
184 50.1 1920 Bob Meusel-LF/RF (1977)
153 42.9 1921 Curt Walker-RF (1955)
125 38.7 1919 Ira Flagstead-CF (1940)
121 36.8 1917 Hal Carlson-P (1930)
108 30.2 1921 Johnny Morrison-P (1966)
110 32.0 1921 Bubbles Hargrave-C (1969)

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 28, 2004 at 12:06 AM | 210 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Max Carey and Harry Heilmann

Never truly the elite outfielders of their times, but definitely quality players. Are they no-brainers or two more for the oufield glut?

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 23, 2004 at 04:17 PM | 70 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Stan Coveleski and Carl Mays

Which one do you like better?

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 23, 2004 at 02:08 PM | 6 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: George Van Haltren, Hugh Duffy and Jimmy Ryan

After Sliding Billy, the three best centerfielders of the 1890s…

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 23, 2004 at 02:05 PM | 113 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Oliver Marcelle

By popular demand, here’s a thread for the “spectral” third baseman…

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 23, 2004 at 03:21 AM | 11 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Heinie Groh and Tommy Leach

Two players who deserves a closer look at…

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 23, 2004 at 03:17 AM | 13 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1935 Ballot

Max Carey and Carl Mays are the viable new candidates for the Hall of Merit this “year.” They also will be on the sidelines rooting for two of the carryover studs from the “year” before (Eddie Collins, John Henry Lloyd and Smokey Joe Williams) because they won’t be making it this “year.”

Other returnees include Cristobal Torriente, Heinie Groh, Stan Coveleski, Lip Pike, Jake Beckley, George Van Haltren and Rube Waddell.

Robin! To the Batcave!

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 20, 2004 at 01:52 PM | 125 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: The Baseball Hall of Merit Plaque Room: G-L

For the Hall of Merit Home Page, please click here.

For Hall of Meriters A-F, please click here.

For Hall of Meriters M-R, please click here.

For Hall of Meriters S-Z, please click here.


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John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 19, 2004 at 03:52 PM | 0 comment(s)
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