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Hall of Merit: 1929 Ballot

Here it is, early as I head out on vacation . . . please refrain from voting until Monday, unless you are also going to be computerless next week, thanks! I’ll be back Saturday evening, 7/3.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 26, 2004 at 12:16 PM | 127 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1928 Results - Home Run and Iron Man elected

Frank “Home Run” Baker and Joe “Iron Man” McGinnity have been elected to the Hall of Merit. Baker was elected in his first year of eligibility, winning easily with 932 points. McGinnity edged Bobby Wallace for the 2nd spot, 685-647.

The order of the returning top 10 was unchanged from 1927.

One minor change - to save time for the tiebreakers I only used the named on more ballots criteria. With the new thread it’s tougher to search to track who was named on more ballots. If the tie were for an election spot, I would go through the full procedure.

Also, I counted Kelly’s ballot. I know it was late, but it was his first ballot, his computer crashed, and it didn’t change anything significant. It gives us a more accurate picture for next week, so I included it in the tally. Yeah, I’m a softy . . .

RK   LY  Player             PTS  Bal     1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12  13  14 15
 1  n/e  Frank Baker        932   46    25  2  4  2  4  4  1     2        2           
 2    3  Joe McGinnity      685   44     3  7  4  6  4  2  4  1  2  2  2  1   1   2  3
 3    4  Bobby Wallace      647   40     6  3  7  3  8  1  2     2  2         1   2  3
 4    5  Jimmy Sheckard     601   36     1  7  4  5  5  6  1  1     4  1      1       
 5    6  Sam Thompson       526   36     1  6  5  4  1  1  2     2  3  2  3   3   1  2
 6    7  Bob Caruthers      488   34     5  2  2  1  5  1  1  1  2  3  3  1   4   1  2
 7    8  Dickey Pearce      433   30     1  5  3  2  1  3  3  1     2     2   3   2  2
 8    9  Lip Pike           415   29     1  3  2  3  3     3  4  3        3   3      1
 9   10  Jake Beckley       405   28     1  1  2  5  3  4  3  1  2  1  1  1       2  1
10   11  George Van Haltren 375.5 30        2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  1  3  3.5 2.5 3  1
11   12  Jimmy Ryan         318.5 25           2  4  1  1  3  2  3  1  2  2.5 1.5 2   
12   15  Clark Griffith     282   24        1  1        1  3  3  5  2  1  2   2   1  2
13T  13  Rube Waddell       267   22           1  1  1  4  2  2  3  2  1      1   2  2
13T  16  Roger Bresnahan    267   22           2  2  1        5  2  2  4  1   1   1  1
15   19  Rube Foster        231   18        2           2  1  4  1  4  1  1   1      1
16   20  Mickey Welch       231   16     1  2  2     1  2  1  2           1   2   2   
17   14  Hughie Jennings    226   18     1        3        1  1  3  4  2  1   1   1   
18   18  Hugh Duffy         218   21                 3  2     2  1  1  1  2   3   3  3
19   23  Cupid Childs       214   21        1           1     3  2  1  2  4       4  3
20   17  Bill Monroe        187   17           1     1     2  2  1     4  2   1   3   
21   21  Larry Doyle        168   14        1  2  1        1     1  1     3   1   2  1
22   22  Pete Browning      171   12        1  1     2  3     1  1  1  1          1   
23   24  Tommy Leach        149   15                    1  1  1  1  1  3  2   2   2  1
24   25  Eddie Cicotte      146   12        1     1     1  2     2  1         2      2
25   27  Charley Jones      140   12              1  1     2  1  1  2  2             2
26   26  Gavy Cravath       115   10                    3  1  1     1  1      2      1
27   29  Addie Joss          83    8                    1        2  1     3          1
28   28  Ed Williamson       78    9                       1              3   3   1  1
29   30  Fielder Jones       78    8                       1  1     1  1  1       3   
30   32  Frank Chance        71    7                          2     1  2      1      1
31   33  John McGraw         64    5     1                    1  1        1          1
32   31  Ed Konetchy         54    5                       1  2               1      1
33   34  Vic Willis          41    4                       1        1     1       1   
34   35  Jim McCormick       39    4                                1  2      1       
35   36  Tommy Bond          27    3                       1                      1  1
36   38  Lave Cross          24    3                                   1      1      1
37   40  Silver King         17    2                                   1          1   
38  n/e  Donnie Bush         17    1              1                                   
39T  37  Herman Long         16    2                                   1             1
39T  39  Mike Tiernan        16    2                                   1             1
41   42  Tom York            15    1                    1                             
42   43T Tony Mullane        10    1                                   1              
43   --  Sol White            8    1                                          1       
44T  41  Levi Meyerle         7    1                                              1   
44T  46T Johnny Evers         7    1                                              1   
44T  --  Hippo Vaughn         7    1                                              1   
47T  43T Ray Chapman          6    1                                                 1
47T  45  Harry Wright         6    1                                                 1
47T  46T Jimmy Williams       6    1                                                 1
47T  --  Joe Tinker           6    1                                                 1
Dropped Out: none.
Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 24, 2004 at 06:06 AM | 52 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Voting Theory

“In response to sunnyday2’s thoughtful comments on information and advocacy… These are issues that I’d like to hear more
about. How about a thread for “voting theory” or something similar?”

Here you go jhwinfrey . . .

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 24, 2004 at 05:24 AM | 65 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1929 Ballot Discussion

1929 (July 4)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
232 68.0 1909 Donie Bush-SS (1972)
164 50.4 1911 Tilly Walker-LF/CF (1959)
140 49.7 1912 George Cutshaw-2b (1973)
171 40.1 1912 Eddie Foster-3b (1937)
139 37.1 1916 Jim Bagby-P (1954)
144 34.2 1911 Fred Toney-P (1953)
124 32.7 1913 Reb Russell-P/RF (1973)
134 30.1 1911 Earl Hamilton-P (1968)
Negro Lg 1906 Bruce Petway-C (1941)
Negro Lg 1909 Spotswood Poles-CF (1962)

1929 (July 4)—elect 2
HF% Career Name-pos (born) BJ – MVP - All-Star
52% 09-23 Spotswood Poles-CF (1889) #4 cf - 3 - 3*
44% 06-25 Bruce Petway-C (1883) #5 c - 1 - 7*
00% 09-23 Zack Pettus-1B/C (1884) - 0 - 2*

Note, I will be on vacation starting Saturday a.m., returning the following Saturday a.m.. I have no idea if I will be able to access the internet during that time. So I’ll probably just post the ballot thread Saturday morning before I leave, just refrain from posting to it until Monday - unless you too won’t be around . . .

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 23, 2004 at 03:54 AM | 183 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1928 Ballot

Balloting for 1928 is now open. I’ll have my revised WARP numbers up this week (I’ve got the eligibles done, need to do the HoMers now), based on BRARP+FRAA+PRAR. These numbers overrate pitchers because the replacement level for their offense is underrated. I’ve adjusted for season length as well.

An early tease, the top 8 (I think? need to look again, numbers are not on this PC) eligibles are all pitchers. Several of them are old timers, to whom the season-adjustments maybe shouldn’t apply. Obviously there is something wrong with that, so I need to do the current HoMers for perspective.

Hopefully I get the current HoMers done tonight, but there are 50 of them (47 with stats) so it likely won’t be until tomorrow night (early Wednesday). I’ll be tweaking my ballot somewhat this week as there were a few surprises.

Another thing I noticed is the monumental difference between WARP and WS fielding evaluations on some players. So I’ll list each component (BRARP, FRAA, PRAR) for both WARP1 and WARP2 and I’ll give the player’s WS defensive letter grade also. Once I can get the data input, I’ll list his season length adjusted WS total too, but that’s not likely to be out until 1929.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 14, 2004 at 08:24 PM | 196 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Louis Santop

If anyone would like to pass along some numbers or something for this intro, it’d be great.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 11, 2004 at 04:45 AM | 29 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Jose Mendez

If anyone would like to pass along some numbers or something for this intro, it’d be great.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 11, 2004 at 04:44 AM | 92 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Bruce Petway

If anyone would like to pass along some numbers or something for this intro, it’d be great.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 11, 2004 at 04:43 AM | 18 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Spottswood Poles

If anyone would like to pass along some numbers or something for this intro, it’d be great.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 11, 2004 at 04:42 AM | 86 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1927 Results - Negro Leaguer Elected for 3rd Consecutive Year

Joe Jackson overcame his first-year boycott and Pete Hill became the 3rd Negro Leaguer elected to the Hall of Merit, joining Grant Johnson and Frank Grant.

After being left off 27 ballots in 1926 (presumably for his role in the 1919 Black Sox scandal), Jackson was only missing on 3.5 ballots for 1927, and he easily won the election with 875 points.

Hill was elected in his first year of eligibility, edging out Joe McGinnity and Bobby Wallace.

Jimmy Sheckard, Sam Thompson, Bob Caruthers, Dickey Pearce and Lip Pike finished 5-9, repeating their finish from 1926. Jake Beckley rounded out the top 10.

RK   LY  Player             PTS Bal    1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
 1   10  Joe Jackson        875 45.5  17  7  5  3  2  2  3     1  2  1     1     1.5
 2  n/e  Pete Hill          706 45     1  9  5  1  6  3  4  6  3  1  1  1  1  1  2
 3    4  Joe McGinnity      663 43.5   4  2  6  6  5  4  2  5     1  2  2     2  2.5
 4    3  Bobby Wallace      625 36.5   6  5  3  5  6  2  1  2     3  1  1        1.5
 5    5  Jimmy Sheckard     591 37     2  5  4  5  5  7  1     2        3  1  1  1
 6    6  Sam Thompson       539 35     1  6  5  4  1  3  4     2     3  2  2  2   
 7    7  Bob Caruthers      494 33     3  5  1  2  3  3  2  1  1  2  4  1  3  2   
 8    8  Dickey Pearce      470 30     5  3  3  2  1  2  3  1  2     3  2     2  1
 9    9  Lip Pike           434 30     4  2     3  2  2  3  2  2  2  1  3  1  2  1
10   11  Jake Beckley       377 27     1     3  4  3  3  4  1  1  2  1  2     1   
11   12  George Van Haltren 354 27     1  1  2  2  2  1  2  3  2  2  1  1  4  2  2
12   13  Jimmy Ryan         322 26           3  2  1  2     3  5  3  1  2  1  2  1
13   14  Rube Waddell       278 24           1     1  3  2  2  4  2  3  2  1  1  2
14   16  Hughie Jennings    252 21     1     1  2  1  1  1  1  3  1  2     4  1  2
15   17  Clark Griffith     243 22     1  1              2  2     6  1  2  1  4  2
16   15  Roger Bresnahan    237 22              1  3        1  1  3  4  5  1  3   
17   19  Bill Monroe        222 21              1        3  4  2  1  1  3  1  1  4
18   18  Hugh Duffy         220 20                 2  3  1     2  1  4  1  3  3   
19   20  Rube Foster        192 16           1  1        2  1  4  3  2     1  1   
20   21  Mickey Welch       189 14     1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1           2  2
21   26  Larry Doyle        162 13           3  1     1  1        2     2  1  2   
22   23  Pete Browning      161 12           1  2  2  1  1     1     2  1     1   
23   22  Cupid Childs       157 15        1     1           1  1  1  2  1  5     2
24   24  Tommy Leach        142 15                    1     3     2  1  1  2  1  4
25   30  Eddie Cicotte      128 12        1           1     1  3     1        1  4
26   25  Gavy Cravath       123 12                    1  2  2     1     1  2     3
27   27  Charley Jones      114  9           1     1     1  1  2     2  1         
28   28  Ed Williamson      103 12                       1        2  1  1  1  4  2
29   29  Addie Joss          66  6.5                        1  1  2        2      .5
30   34  Fielder Jones       64  7                          1        2     3  1   
31  n/e  Ed Konetchy         61  6                       1     1  1     1  1  1   
32   33  Frank Chance        59  6                          2  1           1  1  1
33   32  John MGraw          56  4     1                       1  1     1         
34   31  Vic Willis          52  6                          1        1  1  1     2
35   37  Jim McCormick       31  4                                      2     1  1
36   36  Tommy Bond          29  2                    1  1                        
37   40  Herman Long         27  3                                1     1     1   
38   38  Lave Cross          25  2                 1                    1         
39   39  Mike Tiernan        23  3                                      1  1     1
40   42  Silver King         16  2                                   1           1
41   45T Levi Meyerle*       15  2                                         1  1   
42   41  Tom York            15  1                    1                           
43T  43  Tony Mullane         8  1                                         1      
43T  44  Ray Chapman          8  1                                         1      
45   35  Harry Wright         7  1                                            1   
46T  --  Jimmy Williams       6  1                                               1
46T  --  Johnny Evers         6  1                                               1
*won tie-breaker, ahead on individual ballots, 2-1
Dropped out: Joe Tinker (45T), Fred Dunlap (47).

 

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 10, 2004 at 03:53 PM | 36 comment(s)
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