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Hall of Merit: 1939 Ballot Discussion

Some fine new candidates in a somewhat weak “year” will make it verrrrrryyy interesting for ‘39.

1939 (November 21)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)

302 86.5 1913 Rabbit Maranville-SS (1954)
292 85.4 1914 Red Faber-P (1976)
315 78.5 1912 Eppa Rixey-P (1963)
277 87.8 1921 Joe Sewell-SS/3B (1990)
287 80.1 1909 Jack Quinn-P (1946)
141 36.3 1924 Ray Kremer-P (1965)
139 36.8 1924 Glenn Wright-SS (1984)
128 33.5 1924 Sam “Dolly” Gray-P (1953)
121 34.8 1924 Taylor Douthit-CF (1986)
110 29.2 1924 Harry Rice-CF/RF (1971)
104 26.4 1920 Bernie Friberg-3B/2B (1958)
090 27.3 1923 Sloppy Thurston-P (1973)
100 22.3 1922 Bob Fothergill-LF (1938)
099 21.4 1921 Lew Fonseca-1B/2B (1989)

1939 (November 21)—elect 2
HF% Career Name-pos (born) BJ – MVP - All-Star

20% 20-33 Nip Winters-P (1899) 5.5 - 6*
12% 22-33 Heavy Johnson-OF (1896) #8 lf - 0 - 4*
0% 19-33 Jelly Gardner-RF (1895) #8 rf - 0 - 1*
0% 20-33 Highpockets Hudspeth-1b (??) #7 1b - 0 - 0*

Players Passing Away in 1938

HoMers
Age Elected

43 1937 Cristobal Torriente-CF

Candidates
Age Eligible

82 1896 Guy Hecker-P/1B
72 1909 Tom Daly-2b
70 1903 Silver King-P
69 1907 Bill Everitt-1b/3b
65 1907 Pink Hawley-P
64 1913 Jack W. Taylor-P
60 1915 Hobe Ferris-2b
57 1917 Lee Tannehill-3B
40 1939 Bob Fothergill-LF

Thanks to Dan and Chris for the lists!

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 09, 2004 at 01:10 AM | 249 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Heavy Johnson

He ain’t heavy, he’s my…oh wait, he was Heavy! :-)

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 07, 2004 at 02:23 AM | 16 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Nip Winters

Here’s one guy that a vigorous discussion of his credentials is needed.

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 07, 2004 at 02:20 AM | 18 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Red Faber, Eppa Rixey and Jack Quinn

One of the Clean Sox, Eppa Jeptha and that other guy with the long career!

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 07, 2004 at 02:18 AM | 106 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1938 Ballot

Eddie Rommel is the only newbie this election cycle who is a viable candidate. Can he or any returnee stop the Heinie Groh/Stan Coveleski Express?

Other returnees are Max Carey, Lip Pike, Jake Beckley, Hughie Jennings, Rube Waddell and George Sisler.

Vote early and vote often!

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 01, 2004 at 02:35 PM | 150 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1937 Election Results: Heilmann and Torriente Become the Hall of Merit’s Newest Members!

Tiger slugging star Harry Heilmann earned the most points this election to become inducted into the Hall of Merit in only his second year of eligibility.

In his fourth year of eligibility, Negro League talent Cristóbal Torriente comfortably snatched the second spot for HoM induction. He has the honor of being the seventh Negro Leaguer to gain immortality so far. 

Heinie Groh and Stan Coveleski should follow in Heilmann’s and Torriente’s footsteps next “year.” Nobody else were close to them during the election and they will face a weak group in ‘38.

Rounding out the top ten were returnees Max Carey, Lip Pike, Jake Beckley, Hughie Jennings, Rube Waddell and George Sisler (he switched spots with the faltering George Van Haltren this “year”).

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 26, 2004 at 12:34 AM | 29 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1938 Ballot Discussion

As I see it, Eddie Rommel is the only new candidate with a snowball’s chance in hell of making someone’s ballot this “year.” IOW, not a very strong batch of candidates.

1938 (November 7)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)

209 66.5 1920 Eddie Rommel-P (1970)
198 49.7 1921 Lu Blue-1B (1958)
193 47.3 1916 George Kelly-1B (1984)
183 43.8 1916 Charlie Jamieson-LF (1969)
149 36.8 1914 Rube Bressler-LF/P (1966)
133 32.0 1916 Clarence Mitchell-P (1963)
109 30.7 1918 Cliff Heathcote-RF (1939)
092 25.2 1923 Freddy Leach-LF (1981)
107 25.5 1920 Hod Ford-SS/2B (1977)
070 15.0 1922 Joe Hauser-1B (1997)

1938 (November 7)—elect 2
HF% Career Name-pos (born) BJ – MVP - All-Star

4% 15-32 Frank Warfield-2B(1895)#8 2b - 0 - 4*
0% 20-32 Reuben Curry-P (1899) 0.5 - 1*


Players Passing Away in 1937

HoMers
Age Elected

90 1901 George Wright-SS
80 1916 Harry Stovey-LF/1B
69 1926 Frank Grant-2B

Candidates
Age Eligible

81 1895 Hick Carpenter-3B
79 1898 Ned Hanlon-CF/Mgr
78 1897 John Reilly-1B
78 1898 Welday Walker-LF
74 1896 Ed Morris-P
68 1913 Jack O’Connor-C
64 1911 Duff Cooley-LF
62 1915 Tully Sparks-P
50 1931 Rube Benton-P
49 1929 Eddie Foster-3b

Once again, thanks to Dan and Chris for the lists!

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 25, 2004 at 03:09 PM | 165 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Eddie Rommel

A very good pitcher who I personally don’t feel is HoM worthy, but you can prove me wrong if you want to. :-)

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 25, 2004 at 02:44 AM | 13 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1937 Ballot

The newly eligible with a decent chance to make some ballots this “year” are Wally Schang, Edd Roush, Cannonball Dick Redding and Chino Smith. However, I’ll put my money on returnees Harry Heilmann and Cristóbal Torriente leading the pack this “year.”

Other returnees include Heinie Groh, Stan Coveleski, Lip Pike, Jake Beckley, Max Carey and George Van Haltren.

Is this the end of…Rico?

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 18, 2004 at 01:54 PM | 93 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1936 Election Results: Alex the Great and Smokey Joe Strike Out Their Hall of Merit Competition!

With an almost unanimous 99.4% of the votes, star hurler Pete Alexander was elected to the Hall of Merit in his first year of eligibility.

In his third year of eligibility, Negro League pitching great Smokey Joe Williams finally broke through by being selected for the second “elect me” spot. Williams broke Pop Lloyd’s one-year record for achieving the highest percentage of votes without being the top vote getter (94.8%).

Newbie Harry Heilmann had an extremely strong third place showing and should be elected with Negro League slugger (and fourth place finisher) Cristóbal Torriente in 1937.

The remaining top-ten returnees were Heinie Groh, Stan Coveleski, Jake Beckley, Max Carey, Lip Pike and George Van Haltren.

RK   LY  Player               PTS  Bal   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
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 1  n/e  Pete Alexander      1193   50  43  7                                       
 2    3  Smokey Joe Williams 1138   50   7 41     1                    1            
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 3  n/e  Harry Heilmann       835   50      1 17 21  2  1  5     1  1     1         
 4    4  Cristóbal Torriente  826   49        25 11  5  4  2        1  1            
 5    5  Heinie Groh          486   41            1  5  5  7  2  5  2  2  2  2  6  2
 6    6  Stan Coveleski       485   40            2  3  4  7  7  2  2  2  5  2  3  1
 7    7  Jake Beckley         360   28         1  3  2  5  5  1  1     2  6  1  1   
 8    9  Max Carey            338   30            3  4  3  1     2     4  4  3  4  2
 9    8  Lip Pike             334   26         2     7  1  2  2  3  3  2  1     1  2
10   13  George Van Haltren   279   25               3  3  2  3     2  3  3  2     4
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11   10  Rube Waddell         271   25               2  1  1  2  4  5  1  3  3  2  1
12   11  Hughie Jennings      271   23         2  1  1  3  1  2  2  2  1  1  3  4   
13   12  Clark Griffith       266   23               2  3  4  1  2  3  1  2  2  1  2
14  n/e  George Sisler        259   23      1        2  2     2  4  1  4  1  1  2  3
15   14  Mickey Welch         259   20         1  4  2  1  2  3     1  1     4     1
16   15  Pete Browning        235   18            1  4  4  2     1  1  2  1  1     1
17   16  Cupid Childs         219   21         1     1  1  2  2  1     2  3  2  5  1
18   17  Hugh Duffy           204   19            1     2  2  2  1  2     1  5  2  1
19   18  Roger Bresnahan      187   20                  2     2  1  1  4     3  2  5
20   19  Jimmy Ryan           186   17                  1  1  2  4  3  2  1     3   
21   21  Tommy Leach          164   16                        2  2  4  4     2  2   
22   20  José Méndez          136   13               1  1        2  3  1  2  1     2
23   22  Charley Jones        110    9            1  1  1        2  2  1           1
24   24  Bill Monroe           98   10                  1     3     1        1  1  3
25   23  Larry Doyle           91    8               1     1  2  1     1        1  1
26   25  Harry Hooper          87    9                     1  2     1     1  1  1  2
27   27  Ben Taylor            73    7                        2  1  1  1        2   
28   32  John McGraw           60    5         1                 1  2        1      
29T  31  Addie Joss            54    6                           1  1  1     1  1  1
29T  26  Carl Mays             54    6                              1  1  2  1  1   
31   29  Bobby Veach           49    5                           1  1     2  1      
32   28  Spotswood Poles       48    4               1        2                    1
33   33  Urban Shocker         45    6                                    1  3     2
34   37  Vic Willis            43    5                              1     2  1     1
35   30  Gavy Cravath          39    3                     1  1  1                  
36   35  Fielder Jones         38    4                           1  1        1  1   
37   34  Frank Chance          38    3               1           1     1            
38   38  George J. Burns       34    4                        1              1  1  1
39   39  Ed Williamson         33    4                                 1  1  1     1
40   36  Ed Cicotte            33    3                        1     1     1         
41   40  Lave Cross            27    2                  1        1                  
42   42T Wilbur Cooper         21    3                                    1        2
43  n/e  Dave Bancroft         19    3                                          1  2
44T  42T Fred Dunlap           19    2                           1              1   
44T  44T Ray Schalk            19    2                                 1  1         
46   47T Tommy Bond            14    1                     1                        
47   46  Donie Bush            13    1                        1                     
48   56T Mike Griffin          12    2                                             2
49T  47T Sam Leever            10    1                                 1            
49T  49T Tom York              10    1                                 1            
51   56T Jim McCormick          9    1                                    1         
52   53T Tony Mullane           7    1                                          1   
53T n/e  Dobie Moore            6    1                                             1
53T n/e  Roy Thomas             6    1                                             1
Dropped Out: Bingo DeMoss(44T), Duke Farrell(51T), Silver King(53T), Ed Konetchy(41), 
Bruce Petway(53T), Mike Tiernan(56T), Ross Youngs(49T), Jules Thomas (51T).

 

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 12, 2004 at 01:34 AM | 30 comment(s)
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