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Hall of Merit: 1923 Ballot

Ooh the drama . . . lol.

Anyway, sorry it’s late, been one of those days, but it shouldn’t affect much.

Next week, when the site goes to registration it’s very important that you all register your names ASAP.

I have a feeling that some of our work may be hard to find for a week or two, so it’s quite likely that the 1924 election will be delayed a week or two. We won’t know for sure until we see how everything works with the transition . . .

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: March 30, 2004 at 06:20 AM | 94 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1922 Results: Lajoie, Mathewson elected in a landslide

Nap Lajoie and Christy Mathewson have been elected to the Hall of Merit.

Lajoie was named first on 37 of 46 ballots. Mathewson was first or 2nd on all ballots. The two were nearly unanimous, just one voter failed to list them 1-2 on his ballot.

Mordecai “Three-Finger” Brown finished 3rd with 595 points. He’ll likely have to wait until 1924 to be elected (Honus Wagner comes on the ballot in 1923, and only one player will be elected that year).

Brown won’t be a shoo-in in 1924, however. Grant “Home Run” Johnson finished 4th, with 548 points, narrowly edging Joe McGinnity (546). Bobby Wallace slipped behind them both, finishing 6th with 478 points.

Frank Grant finished 7th with 442 points, followed by Jimmy Sheckard (419), Sam Thompson (361) and Bob Caruthers (338).

Rk   LY  Player              Pts Bal   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
 1  n/e  Nap Lajoie         1091  46  38  7  1                                    
 2  n/e  Christy Mathewson  1065  46   7 39                                       
 3  n/e  Mordecai Brown      595  39        12  4  7  5  2  4     2  1           2
 4    4  Grant Johnson       548  37         5  7  9  5  2  2  2  2        1     2
 5    3  Joe McGinnity       546  40         3  8  5  1  6  3  4  4  1  1     3  1
 6    5  Bobby Wallace       478  37         4  3  3  3  7  3  2  2  2  2  2  1  3
 7    6  Frank Grant         442  33         3  3  2 10  2  2  2  1  1  2  4     1
 8    7  Jimmy Sheckard      419  32         1  3  4  2  5  7  4     1     2  3   
 9    9  Sam Thompson        361  26         6  3  1  3  1  4  1  3  1        2  1
10    8  Bob Caruthers       338  26   1     4  4  1     1  2  2     3  4  2     2
11   10  Rube Waddell        277  27            1  1  2  2  1  4  2  1  2  3  3  5
12   13  Jake Beckley        267  24               2     1  2  6  2  6  2  2  1   
13   11  Hughie Jennings     259  22         1  2  2  3     2     2     6  1  2  1
14   12  Roger Bresnahan     256  25         1        1  4  2  1  2  1  2  3  7  1
15   14  Hugh Duffy          244  22                  5  2     3  1  3  3  3  1  1
16   16  Dickey Pearce       233  18         1  3  4     1     1  1  4  1  1     1
17   15  Lip Pike            230  19         4  1  1     1  1  1  1  2  3  1  2  1
18   18  George Van Haltren  228  22                  2  4  2  1  1  4     2  1  5
19   17  Jimmy Ryan          209  20               1  2  1  1  2  4  1     3  4  1
20   19  Clark Griffith      174  19                        1  3  2  4  1  2  2  4
21   20  Bill Monroe         120  13                     1  1     3  2  1     1  4
22   22  Pete Browning       117  10            1  1        2  1  1  2  1        1
23   21  Tommy Leach         107  12                        1     2  1  4     2  2
24   25  Mickey Welch        100   9            2        1  1     1        1  2  1
25   24  Frank Chance         85   8                  1     1  1  1  1  1  1  1   
26   23  Cupid Childs         81   9               1              1     2  2  2  1
27   26  Addie Joss           60   6                           3        2        1
28   27  Vic Willis           57   6                  1           1     2     1  1
29   28  Charlie Jones        53   5                     1     2        1        1
30   29  Jim McCormick        45   5                              2        2  1   
31   33T Ed Williamson        38   5                                 1  1     1  2
32   31  Herman Long          34   4                                 1     3      
33   30  John McGraw*         32   3            1                          1  1   
33   33T Lave Cross           32   3                        1        1  1         
35   32  Harry Wright         27   2               1              1               
36   35  Fielder Jones        15   2                                       1  1   
37   38  Jim Whitney          14   1                     1                        
38   37  Tony Mullane         11   1                              1               
39   40  Denny Lyons          10   1                                 1            
40   47T Silver King           9   1                                    1         
41T  36  Sol White             8   1                                       1      
41T  39  Joe Tinker            8   1                                       1      
41T  --  Fred Dunlap           8   1                                       1      
44   41T Deacon Phillippe      7   1                                          1   
*won sixth tie-breaker (more 4th place votes).
Dropped Out: Mike Tiernan (41T), Cy Seymour (41T), Levi Meyerle (44), Bobby 
Mathews (45T), Harry Davis (45T), Roy Thomas (47T), Deacon McGuire (47T).
Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: March 23, 2004 at 09:02 AM | 10 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: Who’ll be the first living HoMer?

Anyone want to venture as guess as to who will be:

The first living HoMer?

The first living HoMer that isn’t a HoFer?

The latter question is very interesting to me, I’d love to be able to get in touch that player when we elect him.

Just something to think about - I believe the first question was mentioned already sometime in the last couple of weeks.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: March 23, 2004 at 08:14 AM | 23 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1923 Ballot Discussion

Quite a new class coming on the ballot and only one electee this year. Wonder who it’ll be . . .

 WS   W3  Rookie Name-Pos (Died) 
655 180.1  1897  Honus Wagner-SS (1955)
446 115.2  1899  Sam Crawford-RF (1968)
361 100.1  1901  Ed Plank-P (1926)
268  70.8  1903  Johnny Evers-2b (1947)
231  58.6  1903  Chief Bender-P (1954)
157  28.7  1906  Hans Lobert-3b (1968)
124  35.0  1909  Jim Scott-P (1957)
129  32.9  1909  Chief Meyers-C (1971)
139  25.1  1907  Mike Mowrey-3b (1947)
137  23.4  1907  Bobby Byrne-3b (1964)
128  26.8  1903  Cy Falkenberg-P (1961)
113  26.0  1905  George Gibson-C (1967)
Negro Lg   1901  Rube Foster-P (1930)

Thanks to DanG for compiling this list:

HoMers and candidates who died in the past year:

HoMers:
Age Elected
 69 1903 Cap Anson

Candidates:
Age Eligible
 81 1882 Wes Fisler
 70 1896 Orator Shaffer
 67 1896 Joe Gerhardt
 62 1902 Sam Thompson
 59 1902 Tommy McCarthy
 53 1907 Nig Cuppy
 52 1905 Billy Rhines
 43 1918 Jake Stahl

Future Candidate:
Age Eligible
 27 1928 Austin McHenry
Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: March 22, 2004 at 04:11 PM | 221 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: DMB owner needed!

I’m commissioner of a fledgling Diamond-Mind league. We’ve already drafted, and we’re close to starting the 1924 season, our innaugural campaign. It’s a keeper league, and two owners can’t do it after drafting their teams.

The Philadelphia Phillies and Pittsburgh Pirates are available. The Phillies have Babe Ruth among others (imagine what the Babe will do in the Baker Bowl! The Pirates have a decent squad too.

Let me know if you are interested, and I’ll send you the rules, etc. . . .

You’ll need to upgrade to Version 9 of Diamond-Mind (due out later this week) for the league as well.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: March 16, 2004 at 10:49 AM | 10 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1922 Ballot

This one shouldn’t be too tough . . .

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: March 15, 2004 at 11:29 AM | 128 comment(s)
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Hall of Merit: 1921 Results: Collins and Bennett elected

Jimmy Collins and Charlie Bennett are newest members of the Hall of Merit. They are two of the greatest fielders their positions have ever seen. Collins was elected in his 8th year of eligibility. Bennett, 66, has been on the ballot since 1899, and was elected in his 23rd year! Except for Bob Caruthers, all of the players ahead of him on the 1899 ballot have been inducted. Two players below Bennett on that ballot (Cal McVey & Pud Galvin) have also been elected.

Joe McGinnity flew past Bobby Wallace and is solidly entrenched in 3rd place. Grant “Home Run” Johnson, a star Negro League SS also outpointed Wallace, it was Johnson’s first year on the ballot. Wallace finished 5th.

Frank Grant, another Negro League star, finished 6th, moving past Jimmy Sheckard in the tally. Bob Caruthers moved into 8th place, swapping positions with slugger Sam Thompson. Rube Waddell edged Hughie Jennings by one point for 10th place.

Other newcomers included Roger Bresnahan in 12th place, Tommy Leach (21st) and Joe Tinker (39th).

Rk   LY  Player              Pts Bal    1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
 1    2  Jimmy Collins       814  47    8  9  6  4     4  1  4  1  4  4  1  1
 2    3  Charlie Bennett     701  37   13  6  2  2  2  1  3  3  2     2  1

 3    5  Joe McGinnity       659  41    4  5  3  4  7  6  2  2  1  1  1  1  2     2
 4   n/e Grant Johnson       606  39    2  5  6  5  6  2  1  1  3     1  1  1  4  1
 5    4  Bobby Wallace       587  40    4  3  1  5  6  1  2  4  4  1  1  1  2  4  1
 6    7  Frank Grant         526  36       3  5  2  6  4  4  2  1  3     3  2  1
 7    6  Jimmy Sheckard      507  36       3  3  2  3  4  8  3  3        2  2  3
 8    9  Bob Caruthers       448  29    5  2  5  1  1  4           2  2  4  1  1  1
 9    8  Sam Thompson        435  30    5  1  1  3  2  2     5  2  2  1        4  2
10   11  Rube Waddell        356  28    2     1  3  3     2  3  3  1  1  1  4  2  2
11   10  Hughie Jennings     355  26    1  2  5     2     1  1  2  3  2  4  2  1
12   n/e Roger Bresnahan     337  29       1     3     2  4  2  1     4  4  7  1
13   15  Jake Beckley        304  25       1  1        3  2  2  5  4  3  1  1  1  1
14   12  Hugh Duffy          299  24       1  2  1  2  2  3     1  1  4  3  2  1  1
15   13  Lip Pike            296  22    1  2  3  1  2        1  1  4  2  1     1  3
16   16  Dickey Pearce       275  19    1     2  6  1     1  1     3  2  1  1
17   17  Jimmy Ryan          263  24             1  1  1  1  4     4  4  4  1  3
18   14  George Van Haltren  256  24                2  4  1  1  2  2  2  2  2  1  5
19   18  Clark Griffith      212  22                   2  2  1  2     3  2  3  3  4
20   19  Bill Monroe         182  18    1              1     2  2  2  1     3  1  5
21   n/e Tommy Leach         161  17             1     1  1  1  2  1  1        3  6
22   21  Pete Browning       159  12       2        1     1  2  1  2  1        1  1
23   20  Cupid Childs        139  14          1  1              1  1  2  2  2  3  1
24   23  Frank Chance        127  11          1  1        1  1  1  2  1     1  1  1
25   24  Mickey Welch        116   8       2        1     2              2  1
26   25  Addie Joss           94   8                   2     2  1  1     1        1
27   22  Vic Willis           83   9             1              1  1     1  1  2  2
28   27  Charley Jones        60   5                   1  2        1              1
29   26  Jim McCormick        50   5                      1     1        1  1  1
30   28  John McGraw          48   4    1                          1           1  1
31   35  Herman Long          37   4                            1        1  2
32   31  Harry Wright         31   2             1        1
33T  30  Ed Williamson        27   3                            1           1  1
33T  33  Lave Cross           27   3                            1           1  1
35   29  Fielder Jones        21   3                                        1  1  1
36   32  Sol White            18   2                                     2
37   34  Tony Mullane         17   1.5                    1                       0.5
38   36  Jim Whitney          15   1                   1
39   n/e Joe Tinker           14   1.5                             1              0.5
40   37T Denny Lyons          12   1                            1
41T  41  Deacon Phillippe     10   1                                  1
41T  43T Mike Tiernan         10   1                                  1
41T  43T Cy Seymour           10   1                                  1
44   39  Levi Meyerle          8   1                                        1
45T  43T Bobby Mathews         7   1                                           1
45T  --  Harry Davis           7   1                                           1
47T  42  Roy Thomas            6   1                                              1
47T  43T Silver King           6   1                                              1
47T  43T Deacon McGuire        6   1                                              1
Dropped Out: Tom York (37T), Mike Griffin (40)
Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: March 12, 2004 at 08:35 AM | 21 comment(s)
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