Hall of Merit: Status

Okay, looks like I’ve figured out how to get to the old threads. Now I’ll need to open them all, and redo the old homepage’s links. I’ve also been taught how to keep a thread at the top of the list.

ETA for all of this is early next week. 1925 results should be up tonight.

Hall of Merit: 1926 Ballot Discussion

I can’t access the eligibility thread to see who’s eligible, can someone in the know post the list or email it to me? I’ll move it up front once I have it, thanks!

Edit 5/12:

***1926 (May 16)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
294 80.3 1910 Joe Jackson-LF/RF (1951)
247 73.1 1908 Eddie Cicotte-P (1969)
289 59.0 1907 Larry Doyle-2b (1974)
202 51.8 1908 Gavvy Cravath-RF (1963)
174 43.1 1911 Claude Hendrix-P (1944)
171 43.1 1908 Buck Herzog-2b/3b/SS (1953)
148 51.6 1912 Ray Chapman-SS (1920)
191 35.7 1908 Fred Merkle-1b (1956)
127 46.5 1905 George McBride-SS (1973)
175 36.6 1914 Benny Kauff-CF (1961)
160 34.4 1910 Fred Luderus-1b (1961)
152 33.4 1912 Buck Weaver-SS/3b (1956)
123 36.4 1915 Happy Felsch-CF (1964)
129 35.8 1913 Dick Rudolph-P (1949)
089 19.5 1910 Bill Rariden-C (1942)

Hall of Merit: 1925 Ballot

Two more join the club this year . . . who will they be?

Thanks to DanG for the death list . . . Frank Chance is the only person that received votes last year to have left us. No HoMers died. Active player Jake Daubert died in the offseason, he’ll be eligible in 1930.

Age Eligible
75 1898 Candy Cummings-P
73 1898 John Peters-SS
70 1898 Pop Snyder-C
67 1898 Fleet Walker-C
65 1898 Ed Swartwood-RF
65 1898 George Wood-LF
48 1918 Pat Moran-C/Mgr
47 1917 Frank Chance-1B
44 1917 Doc Gessler-RF
Upcoming Candidate
40 1930 Jake Daubert-1B

Hall of Merit: 1924 Results: Crawford and Plank Cruise into Hall

Sam Crawford and Eddie Plank were easily elected to the Hall of Merit; each was in his second year of eligibility.

In an unprecendented turn of events, the top 13 finished in the exact same order as 1923.

Mordecai Brown and Grant Johnson are the top returning candidates for 1925.

RK   LY  Player             PTS Bal     1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
 1    2  Sam Crawford      1102  46    44  2
 2    3  Eddie Plank        907  45       23 13  6     2        1
 3    4  Mordecai Brown     620  41        5  3  3  9  5  4  2  3  2  2     1  1  1
 4    5  Grant Johnson      604  39        3  8  4  9  5  1  1  3  1        3     1
 5    6  Joe McGinnity      548  40        2  2  6  3  3  7  3  3  4  2     1  2  2
 6    7  Frank Grant        488  36           2  5  4  7  3  4  2  1  2  3  2     1
 7    8  Bobby Wallace      483  35        3  4  2  2  4  6  1     5  1  1  4  1  1
 8    9  Jimmy Sheckard     417  33           2  2  5  2  2  4  5  4  1  1     4  1
 9   10  Sam Thompson       391  29        1  5  2  2  3  4  1  3  1  1     2  1  3
10   11  Bob Caruthers      376  30     1  1  4  2  1  2  1  1     4  3  3  2  3  2
11   12  Dickey Pearce      277  19        2     5  1  1  3  2  1     2     1  1
12   13  Lip Pike           269  18        4  1  1  2        3  2  1  2     2 
13   14  Jake Beckley       253  22                 3  1  1  4  3  2  2  2  2     2
14   17  Rube Waddell       244  24              1     1  2     3  3  3  5  1  2  3
15   15  Hughie Jennings    228  20     1        2  1  1        1  3  4  2  2  2  1
16   16  Jimmy Ryan         223  23                 1  1     2  3  2  1  2  6  2  3
17   19  Hugh Duffy         201  18                    3  1  3  1  2  2  3  1  2
18   18  George Van Haltren 197  19                    2  2  2  2  1  2  1  2  3  2
19   20  Roger Bresnahan    194  20           1        1  1  1     2  3  3  1  5  2
20   22  Clark Griffith     149  15                       1  3  1  1  1  2  3  3
21   24  Bill Monroe        148  15              1        1  2     2  2  2     1  4
22   23  Pete Browning      135  12              1  1           5     2  1     1  1
23   21  Rube Foster        115  10                 1  1  3        1  1     1  1  1
24   27  Cupid Childs       101  11                 1        1  1        3  1  1  3
25   25  Mickey Welch        99   9           1  1           2           2     2  1
26   26  Tommy Leach         79   9                          1     1  1  2  1  1  2
27   28  Charley Jones       67   6                       2     2        1        1
28   33  Ed Williamson       60   7                    1                 1  3     2
29   29  Addie Joss          47   5                                1  1  2  1
30   31  John McGraw         46   4              1                 1     2
31   30  Frank Chance        43   4                          1  1     1     1
32   32  Lave Cross          34   3                       1           2
33   37  Vic Willis          32   4                          1                 1  2
34   38  Fielder Jones       30   4                                      1     3
35   35  Harry Wright        28   2              1                 1 
36   34  Jim McCormick       25   3                                   1     1  1
37   42  Herman Long         19   2                                   1  1 
38   40  Silver King         15   2                                         1  1
39   --  Tommy Bond          13   1                          1
40   43T Sol White            7   1                                            1
41T  41  Fred Dunlap          6   1                                               1
41T  --  Mike Tiernan         6   1                                               1
41T  --  Tony Mullane         6   1                                               1
41T  36  Johnny Evers         6   1                                               1
Dropped Out: Jim Whitney (39), Charlie Buffinton (43T)

Hall of Merit: 1925 Ballot Discussion

1925 (May 2)?elect 2

 WS  W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
354 77.5 1904 Sherry Magee-LF (1929)
231 43.0 1905 Hal Chase-1b (1947)
214 42.1 1908 Heinie Zimmerman-3b (1969)
171 50.7 1904 Terry Turner-SS/3b (1960)
198 41.9 1904 Red Ames-P (1936)
161 31.8 1911 Red Smith-3b (1966)
132 34.5 1908 Jack Barry-SS (1961)
130 32.2 1910 Chick Gandil-1b (1970)
132 30.6 1905 Lefty Leifield-P (1970)
125 26.6 1912 Larry Cheney-P (1969)
104 27.6 1912 Lee Magee-CF/2b (1966)
110 24.0 1911 Vic Saier-1b (1967)

DanG sent me the death list, but due to email difficulties, I can’t post it now. Will edit this later today or tomorrow with that info.

I don’t believe any new Negro Leaguers are eligible, let me know if that’s mistaken . . .

Hall of Merit: 1924 Ballot

This (and everything here) could disappear temporarily if the upgrade of the site comes down this week - I’ll post something to the new site, don’t worry, but make sure you keep a copy of your ballot just in case - and anything else you might want to reference over the next week or two, until the archive is imported.

Hall of Merit: 1923 Results: Wagner Second Unanimous Winner

Honus Wagner has become the second player to receive every first place vote (48), joining Cy Young (elected in 1917) as a member of this select group.

Part of one of the strongest first-year eligible classes ever, Sam Crawford (908 points) and Eddie Plank (799) finished 2nd and 3rd.

The top returning candidate, Mordecai Brown slipped from 3rd to 4th. Grant Johnson and Joe McGinnity also held their relative positions when compared to the returnees, slipping to 5th and 6th, respectively.

Frank Grant moved past Bobby Wallace into 7th place. Jimmy Sheckard finished 9th and Sam Thompson rounded out the top 10.

Rk   LY  Player               Pts Bal    1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
 1  n/e  Honus Wagner       1152  48    48
 2  n/e  Sam Crawford        908  48       45  1  2
 3  n/e  Eddie  Plank        799  47          26  9  6  3  1     1  1
 4    3  Mordecai Brown      597  44           5  3  5  7  6  5  2  3  1  3  1  2  1
 5    4  Grant Johnson       580  40           2  8  4 11  7  1  2  1  1  1     2   
 6    5  Joe  McGinnity      512  40           1  6  4  3  2  5  5  3  5  2  2  1  1
 7    7  Frank  Grant        458  35.3            3  6  3  7  4  3  2     2  3  2   .3
 8    6  Bobby  Wallace      448  36           3  4  2  1  5  5  3  1  3  1  3  4  1
 9    8  Jimmy Sheckard      394  32.5            2  3  6  1  3  5  2  4  1  2  1  2.5
10    9  Sam Thompson        367  29           1  5  3  1  2  3  3  3  4        1  3
11   10  Bob Caruthers       330  28        2  2  3  2        3  1  1  2  4  2  3  3
12   16  Dickey Pearce       259  19           1  1  6  2  1  2     2  2  1     1   
13   17  Lip Pike            236  18           4  1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  2  1  2   
14   12  Jake Beckley        222  22                    2     1  4  2  4  3  2  2  2
15   13  Hughie Jennings     220  21        1  1     1  1  2        2  2  3  1  5  2
16   19  Jimmy Ryan          214  23                    2  1  1  2  2  2  1  2  6  4
17   11  Rube Waddell        205  19              1        1  2  1  7  2     4  1   
18   18  George Van Haltren  201  19                       4  2  2  2  1  3  2  2  1
19   15  Hugh Duffy          179  17.5                     3  2  1  1  3  2  3  1  1.5
20   14  Roger Bresnahan     174  19.5               1     1  1  1     2  2  6     5.5
21  n/e  Rube Foster         138  12                    2  1  3  1     2  1     2   
22   20  Clark Griffith      123  14                          1  2  1  1  2  1  3  3
23   22  Pete Browning       121  11                 1  1     1  1  3     2  1     1
24   21  Bill Monroe          83   8.5                  1        1  1  1  2  1     1.5
25   24  Mickey Welch         79   7              1  1           2           2     1
26   23  Tommy Leach          77   9                             1     2  2  1  1  2
27   26  Cupid Childs         58   6.3                  1           1     1  1  1  1.3
28   29  Charley Jones        54   6                             1  2        1     2
29   27  Addie Joss*          52   6                                2        3     1
30   25  Frank Chance         52   6                          1     1     1     1  2
31   33  John McGraw          45   4                 1              1     2         
32   34  Lave Cross           36   4                             1        2        1 
33   31  Ed Williamson        32   4                                   1     1  2   
34   30  Jim McCormick        26   3                                   1  1     1   
35   35  Harry Wright         24   2                       1           1            
36  n/e  Johnny Evers         21   2                          1              1      
37   28  Vic Willis           14   1                       1                        
38   36  Fielder Jones        13   2                                            1  1
39   37  Jim Whitney          12   1                             1                  
40   40  Silver King           9   1                                      1         
41   41T Fred Dunlap*          8   1.3                                             1.3
42   32  Herman Long           8   1                                         1      
43T  41T Sol White             6   1                                               1
43T  --  Charlie Buffinton     6   1                                               1
* - won tie-breaker
Dropped  Out: Tony Mullane (38), Denny Lyons (39), Fred Dunlap (41T),
Deacon Phillippe (44).

Hall of Merit: 1924 Ballot Discussion

***1924 (April 18) ?elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
239 49.3 1905 Frank ?Wildfire? Schulte-RF (1949)
161 37.6 1905 Mickey Doolan-SS (1951)
160 37.1 1906 Jack Coombs-P (1957)
154 32.7 1908 Bob Bescher-LF (1942)
149 31.5 1908 Dick Hoblitzel-1b (1962)
140 29.9 1906 Rube Oldring-CF (1961)
119 34.3 1912 Jeff Tesreau-P (1946)
110 28.2 1906 Bill Hinchman-RF/LF (1963)
103 25.5 1911 Vean Gregg-P (1964)

Not exactly Hans and Wahoo Sam and Gettysburg Eddie this time around . . .

Hall of Merit: KJOK Leagues Parks Stats Converter

From KJOK, post #88 on the 1923 ballot thread:

This is a plea for a little help on something that I think many of you will find to be of benefit.

I have finished “prettying up” and documenting a spreadsheet called “KJOK Leagues Parks Stats Converter”. Basically, this is a spreadsheet that takes all of the different steps I use to convert a player’s stats from one environment to another, different environment. As long as you have most of the basic stats for a player, the basic stats for the league they played in, the basic stats or assumed stats for the league your converting to, and have data or can make some basic assumptions about the relative level of competition between the two leagues and the parks in the leagues, the spreadsheet will spit out 3 different “equivalent” batting lines.

For example, if you want to know the NL, NY Mets approx. equivalent for Kaz Matsui’s 2003 batting performance in the Pacific League for the Seibu Lions, this spreadsheet will do that. If you want to know the NL approx. equiv. stats of Bob Caruther’s AA “big” seasons, this spreadsheet will do that. If you want to know what Oscar Charleton might have done in the AL, it will(assuming you’re willing to make enough assumptions about the leagues he played in) do that.

I’m going to post it to the files section of the HOM egroup. What I’m asking is for those of you who are “in” to this type of thing to take this and test it to make sure I didn’t miss any assumptions and that I didn’t make any careless formula typos when manually entering all of this, AND to also offer any suggestions for clearer documentation or improvements in layout or method.

NOTE: Only the batting conversion has been completed. Hope to have a pitching conversion done in the near future…

Thanks in advance.

KJOK

Great stuff KJOK!

Hall of Merit: 1923 Ballot

Ooh the drama . . . lol.

Anyway, sorry it’s late, been one of those days, but it shouldn’t affect much.

Next week, when the site goes to registration it’s very important that you all register your names ASAP.

I have a feeling that some of our work may be hard to find for a week or two, so it’s quite likely that the 1924 election will be delayed a week or two. We won’t know for sure until we see how everything works with the transition . . .