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Two more join the club this year . . . who will they be?
Thanks to DanG for the death list . . . Frank Chance is the only person that received votes last year to have left us. No HoMers died. Active player Jake Daubert died in the offseason, he’ll be eligible in 1930.
Age Eligible
75 1898 Candy Cummings-P
73 1898 John Peters-SS
70 1898 Pop Snyder-C
67 1898 Fleet Walker-C
65 1898 Ed Swartwood-RF
65 1898 George Wood-LF
48 1918 Pat Moran-C/Mgr
47 1917 Frank Chance-1B
44 1917 Doc Gessler-RF
Upcoming Candidate
40 1930 Jake Daubert-1B
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 26, 2004 at 10:06 AM |
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Hall of Merit: 1924 Results: Crawford and Plank Cruise into Hall
Sam Crawford and Eddie Plank were easily elected to the Hall of Merit; each was in his second year of eligibility.
In an unprecendented turn of events, the top 13 finished in the exact same order as 1923.
Mordecai Brown and Grant Johnson are the top returning candidates for 1925.
RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1 2 Sam Crawford 1102 46 44 2
2 3 Eddie Plank 907 45 23 13 6 2 1
3 4 Mordecai Brown 620 41 5 3 3 9 5 4 2 3 2 2 1 1 1
4 5 Grant Johnson 604 39 3 8 4 9 5 1 1 3 1 3 1
5 6 Joe McGinnity 548 40 2 2 6 3 3 7 3 3 4 2 1 2 2
6 7 Frank Grant 488 36 2 5 4 7 3 4 2 1 2 3 2 1
7 8 Bobby Wallace 483 35 3 4 2 2 4 6 1 5 1 1 4 1 1
8 9 Jimmy Sheckard 417 33 2 2 5 2 2 4 5 4 1 1 4 1
9 10 Sam Thompson 391 29 1 5 2 2 3 4 1 3 1 1 2 1 3
10 11 Bob Caruthers 376 30 1 1 4 2 1 2 1 1 4 3 3 2 3 2
11 12 Dickey Pearce 277 19 2 5 1 1 3 2 1 2 1 1
12 13 Lip Pike 269 18 4 1 1 2 3 2 1 2 2
13 14 Jake Beckley 253 22 3 1 1 4 3 2 2 2 2 2
14 17 Rube Waddell 244 24 1 1 2 3 3 3 5 1 2 3
15 15 Hughie Jennings 228 20 1 2 1 1 1 3 4 2 2 2 1
16 16 Jimmy Ryan 223 23 1 1 2 3 2 1 2 6 2 3
17 19 Hugh Duffy 201 18 3 1 3 1 2 2 3 1 2
18 18 George Van Haltren 197 19 2 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 3 2
19 20 Roger Bresnahan 194 20 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 1 5 2
20 22 Clark Griffith 149 15 1 3 1 1 1 2 3 3
21 24 Bill Monroe 148 15 1 1 2 2 2 2 1 4
22 23 Pete Browning 135 12 1 1 5 2 1 1 1
23 21 Rube Foster 115 10 1 1 3 1 1 1 1 1
24 27 Cupid Childs 101 11 1 1 1 3 1 1 3
25 25 Mickey Welch 99 9 1 1 2 2 2 1
26 26 Tommy Leach 79 9 1 1 1 2 1 1 2
27 28 Charley Jones 67 6 2 2 1 1
28 33 Ed Williamson 60 7 1 1 3 2
29 29 Addie Joss 47 5 1 1 2 1
30 31 John McGraw 46 4 1 1 2
31 30 Frank Chance 43 4 1 1 1 1
32 32 Lave Cross 34 3 1 2
33 37 Vic Willis 32 4 1 1 2
34 38 Fielder Jones 30 4 1 3
35 35 Harry Wright 28 2 1 1
36 34 Jim McCormick 25 3 1 1 1
37 42 Herman Long 19 2 1 1
38 40 Silver King 15 2 1 1
39 -- Tommy Bond 13 1 1
40 43T Sol White 7 1 1
41T 41 Fred Dunlap 6 1 1
41T -- Mike Tiernan 6 1 1
41T -- Tony Mullane 6 1 1
41T 36 Johnny Evers 6 1 1
Dropped Out: Jim Whitney (39), Charlie Buffinton (43T)
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 22, 2004 at 07:10 AM |
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1925 (May 2)?elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
354 77.5 1904 Sherry Magee-LF (1929)
231 43.0 1905 Hal Chase-1b (1947)
214 42.1 1908 Heinie Zimmerman-3b (1969)
171 50.7 1904 Terry Turner-SS/3b (1960)
198 41.9 1904 Red Ames-P (1936)
161 31.8 1911 Red Smith-3b (1966)
132 34.5 1908 Jack Barry-SS (1961)
130 32.2 1910 Chick Gandil-1b (1970)
132 30.6 1905 Lefty Leifield-P (1970)
125 26.6 1912 Larry Cheney-P (1969)
104 27.6 1912 Lee Magee-CF/2b (1966)
110 24.0 1911 Vic Saier-1b (1967)
DanG sent me the death list, but due to email difficulties, I can’t post it now. Will edit this later today or tomorrow with that info.
I don’t believe any new Negro Leaguers are eligible, let me know if that’s mistaken . . .
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 19, 2004 at 10:15 AM |
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This (and everything here) could disappear temporarily if the upgrade of the site comes down this week - I’ll post something to the new site, don’t worry, but make sure you keep a copy of your ballot just in case - and anything else you might want to reference over the next week or two, until the archive is imported.
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 12, 2004 at 08:54 AM |
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Hall of Merit: 1923 Results: Wagner Second Unanimous Winner
Honus Wagner has become the second player to receive every first place vote (48), joining Cy Young (elected in 1917) as a member of this select group.
Part of one of the strongest first-year eligible classes ever, Sam Crawford (908 points) and Eddie Plank (799) finished 2nd and 3rd.
The top returning candidate, Mordecai Brown slipped from 3rd to 4th. Grant Johnson and Joe McGinnity also held their relative positions when compared to the returnees, slipping to 5th and 6th, respectively.
Frank Grant moved past Bobby Wallace into 7th place. Jimmy Sheckard finished 9th and Sam Thompson rounded out the top 10.
Rk LY Player Pts Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1 n/e Honus Wagner 1152 48 48
2 n/e Sam Crawford 908 48 45 1 2
3 n/e Eddie Plank 799 47 26 9 6 3 1 1 1
4 3 Mordecai Brown 597 44 5 3 5 7 6 5 2 3 1 3 1 2 1
5 4 Grant Johnson 580 40 2 8 4 11 7 1 2 1 1 1 2
6 5 Joe McGinnity 512 40 1 6 4 3 2 5 5 3 5 2 2 1 1
7 7 Frank Grant 458 35.3 3 6 3 7 4 3 2 2 3 2 .3
8 6 Bobby Wallace 448 36 3 4 2 1 5 5 3 1 3 1 3 4 1
9 8 Jimmy Sheckard 394 32.5 2 3 6 1 3 5 2 4 1 2 1 2.5
10 9 Sam Thompson 367 29 1 5 3 1 2 3 3 3 4 1 3
11 10 Bob Caruthers 330 28 2 2 3 2 3 1 1 2 4 2 3 3
12 16 Dickey Pearce 259 19 1 1 6 2 1 2 2 2 1 1
13 17 Lip Pike 236 18 4 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 2
14 12 Jake Beckley 222 22 2 1 4 2 4 3 2 2 2
15 13 Hughie Jennings 220 21 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 1 5 2
16 19 Jimmy Ryan 214 23 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 6 4
17 11 Rube Waddell 205 19 1 1 2 1 7 2 4 1
18 18 George Van Haltren 201 19 4 2 2 2 1 3 2 2 1
19 15 Hugh Duffy 179 17.5 3 2 1 1 3 2 3 1 1.5
20 14 Roger Bresnahan 174 19.5 1 1 1 1 2 2 6 5.5
21 n/e Rube Foster 138 12 2 1 3 1 2 1 2
22 20 Clark Griffith 123 14 1 2 1 1 2 1 3 3
23 22 Pete Browning 121 11 1 1 1 1 3 2 1 1
24 21 Bill Monroe 83 8.5 1 1 1 1 2 1 1.5
25 24 Mickey Welch 79 7 1 1 2 2 1
26 23 Tommy Leach 77 9 1 2 2 1 1 2
27 26 Cupid Childs 58 6.3 1 1 1 1 1 1.3
28 29 Charley Jones 54 6 1 2 1 2
29 27 Addie Joss* 52 6 2 3 1
30 25 Frank Chance 52 6 1 1 1 1 2
31 33 John McGraw 45 4 1 1 2
32 34 Lave Cross 36 4 1 2 1
33 31 Ed Williamson 32 4 1 1 2
34 30 Jim McCormick 26 3 1 1 1
35 35 Harry Wright 24 2 1 1
36 n/e Johnny Evers 21 2 1 1
37 28 Vic Willis 14 1 1
38 36 Fielder Jones 13 2 1 1
39 37 Jim Whitney 12 1 1
40 40 Silver King 9 1 1
41 41T Fred Dunlap* 8 1.3 1.3
42 32 Herman Long 8 1 1
43T 41T Sol White 6 1 1
43T -- Charlie Buffinton 6 1 1
* - won tie-breaker
Dropped Out: Tony Mullane (38), Denny Lyons (39), Fred Dunlap (41T),
Deacon Phillippe (44).
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 08, 2004 at 07:43 AM |
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***1924 (April 18) ?elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
239 49.3 1905 Frank ?Wildfire? Schulte-RF (1949)
161 37.6 1905 Mickey Doolan-SS (1951)
160 37.1 1906 Jack Coombs-P (1957)
154 32.7 1908 Bob Bescher-LF (1942)
149 31.5 1908 Dick Hoblitzel-1b (1962)
140 29.9 1906 Rube Oldring-CF (1961)
119 34.3 1912 Jeff Tesreau-P (1946)
110 28.2 1906 Bill Hinchman-RF/LF (1963)
103 25.5 1911 Vean Gregg-P (1964)
Not exactly Hans and Wahoo Sam and Gettysburg Eddie this time around . . .
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 06, 2004 at 01:00 PM |
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Hall of Merit: KJOK Leagues Parks Stats Converter
From KJOK, post #88 on the 1923 ballot thread:
This is a plea for a little help on something that I think many of you will find to be of benefit.
I have finished “prettying up” and documenting a spreadsheet called “KJOK Leagues Parks Stats Converter”. Basically, this is a spreadsheet that takes all of the different steps I use to convert a player’s stats from one environment to another, different environment. As long as you have most of the basic stats for a player, the basic stats for the league they played in, the basic stats or assumed stats for the league your converting to, and have data or can make some basic assumptions about the relative level of competition between the two leagues and the parks in the leagues, the spreadsheet will spit out 3 different “equivalent” batting lines.
For example, if you want to know the NL, NY Mets approx. equivalent for Kaz Matsui’s 2003 batting performance in the Pacific League for the Seibu Lions, this spreadsheet will do that. If you want to know the NL approx. equiv. stats of Bob Caruther’s AA “big” seasons, this spreadsheet will do that. If you want to know what Oscar Charleton might have done in the AL, it will(assuming you’re willing to make enough assumptions about the leagues he played in) do that.
I’m going to post it to the files section of the HOM egroup. What I’m asking is for those of you who are “in” to this type of thing to take this and test it to make sure I didn’t miss any assumptions and that I didn’t make any careless formula typos when manually entering all of this, AND to also offer any suggestions for clearer documentation or improvements in layout or method.
NOTE: Only the batting conversion has been completed. Hope to have a pitching conversion done in the near future…
Thanks in advance.
KJOK
Great stuff KJOK!
Joe Dimino
Posted: April 05, 2004 at 06:09 AM |
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Ooh the drama . . . lol.
Anyway, sorry it’s late, been one of those days, but it shouldn’t affect much.
Next week, when the site goes to registration it’s very important that you all register your names ASAP.
I have a feeling that some of our work may be hard to find for a week or two, so it’s quite likely that the 1924 election will be delayed a week or two. We won’t know for sure until we see how everything works with the transition . . .
Joe Dimino
Posted: March 30, 2004 at 06:20 AM |
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Hall of Merit: 1922 Results: Lajoie, Mathewson elected in a landslide
Nap Lajoie and Christy Mathewson have been elected to the Hall of Merit.
Lajoie was named first on 37 of 46 ballots. Mathewson was first or 2nd on all ballots. The two were nearly unanimous, just one voter failed to list them 1-2 on his ballot.
Mordecai “Three-Finger” Brown finished 3rd with 595 points. He’ll likely have to wait until 1924 to be elected (Honus Wagner comes on the ballot in 1923, and only one player will be elected that year).
Brown won’t be a shoo-in in 1924, however. Grant “Home Run” Johnson finished 4th, with 548 points, narrowly edging Joe McGinnity (546). Bobby Wallace slipped behind them both, finishing 6th with 478 points.
Frank Grant finished 7th with 442 points, followed by Jimmy Sheckard (419), Sam Thompson (361) and Bob Caruthers (338).
Rk LY Player Pts Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1 n/e Nap Lajoie 1091 46 38 7 1
2 n/e Christy Mathewson 1065 46 7 39
3 n/e Mordecai Brown 595 39 12 4 7 5 2 4 2 1 2
4 4 Grant Johnson 548 37 5 7 9 5 2 2 2 2 1 2
5 3 Joe McGinnity 546 40 3 8 5 1 6 3 4 4 1 1 3 1
6 5 Bobby Wallace 478 37 4 3 3 3 7 3 2 2 2 2 2 1 3
7 6 Frank Grant 442 33 3 3 2 10 2 2 2 1 1 2 4 1
8 7 Jimmy Sheckard 419 32 1 3 4 2 5 7 4 1 2 3
9 9 Sam Thompson 361 26 6 3 1 3 1 4 1 3 1 2 1
10 8 Bob Caruthers 338 26 1 4 4 1 1 2 2 3 4 2 2
11 10 Rube Waddell 277 27 1 1 2 2 1 4 2 1 2 3 3 5
12 13 Jake Beckley 267 24 2 1 2 6 2 6 2 2 1
13 11 Hughie Jennings 259 22 1 2 2 3 2 2 6 1 2 1
14 12 Roger Bresnahan 256 25 1 1 4 2 1 2 1 2 3 7 1
15 14 Hugh Duffy 244 22 5 2 3 1 3 3 3 1 1
16 16 Dickey Pearce 233 18 1 3 4 1 1 1 4 1 1 1
17 15 Lip Pike 230 19 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 1 2 1
18 18 George Van Haltren 228 22 2 4 2 1 1 4 2 1 5
19 17 Jimmy Ryan 209 20 1 2 1 1 2 4 1 3 4 1
20 19 Clark Griffith 174 19 1 3 2 4 1 2 2 4
21 20 Bill Monroe 120 13 1 1 3 2 1 1 4
22 22 Pete Browning 117 10 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1
23 21 Tommy Leach 107 12 1 2 1 4 2 2
24 25 Mickey Welch 100 9 2 1 1 1 1 2 1
25 24 Frank Chance 85 8 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
26 23 Cupid Childs 81 9 1 1 2 2 2 1
27 26 Addie Joss 60 6 3 2 1
28 27 Vic Willis 57 6 1 1 2 1 1
29 28 Charlie Jones 53 5 1 2 1 1
30 29 Jim McCormick 45 5 2 2 1
31 33T Ed Williamson 38 5 1 1 1 2
32 31 Herman Long 34 4 1 3
33 30 John McGraw* 32 3 1 1 1
33 33T Lave Cross 32 3 1 1 1
35 32 Harry Wright 27 2 1 1
36 35 Fielder Jones 15 2 1 1
37 38 Jim Whitney 14 1 1
38 37 Tony Mullane 11 1 1
39 40 Denny Lyons 10 1 1
40 47T Silver King 9 1 1
41T 36 Sol White 8 1 1
41T 39 Joe Tinker 8 1 1
41T -- Fred Dunlap 8 1 1
44 41T Deacon Phillippe 7 1 1
*won sixth tie-breaker (more 4th place votes).
Dropped Out: Mike Tiernan (41T), Cy Seymour (41T), Levi Meyerle (44), Bobby
Mathews (45T), Harry Davis (45T), Roy Thomas (47T), Deacon McGuire (47T).
Joe Dimino
Posted: March 23, 2004 at 09:02 AM |
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Hall of Merit: Who’ll be the first living HoMer?
Anyone want to venture as guess as to who will be:
The first living HoMer?
The first living HoMer that isn’t a HoFer?
The latter question is very interesting to me, I’d love to be able to get in touch that player when we elect him.
Just something to think about - I believe the first question was mentioned already sometime in the last couple of weeks.
Joe Dimino
Posted: March 23, 2004 at 08:14 AM |
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