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Tuesday, February 07, 2006

February 7, 2006

To Retire or Not To Retire

There is a developing controversy that involves two of baseball’s most royal families. Sharon Robinson, the daughter of Hall of Famer Jackie Robinson, does not want to see Major League Baseball retire the uniform number of Roberto Clemente for all teams, as was done for her father. Members of the Clemente family, including his two oldest sons, see it differently. While they respect the views of Sharon Robinson, they feel that their father’s number should be retired universally as a tribute to the way he fought for the rights of Latino players during a humanitarian life that was cut short by tragedy. The controversy hasn’t become ugly yet, but has the potential to create resentment between African-American and Latino baseball fans.

Let’s hope that it doesn’t reach that stage. Other than the Clemente family itself, I’m probably as big a fan of Clemente as anybody; I’ve written a number of articles and a full-length book about Clemente, who was simply my favorite player growing up. Yet, I don’t think that Clemente’s number should be retired across the board. There is a fundamental difference in the cases between Clemente and Robinson. Clemente was not the first Latino to play in the major leagues—or even the first black Latino—while Robinson was the first African-American to cross the color barrier in the 20th century. Robinson’s status as a pioneer was clearly one of the main reasons why baseball chose to retire his uniform universally in 1997. 

I think this kind of thing—this retiring of uniform numbers for every team—can easily be overdone, and I believe would be in the case of Clemente. As much as Clemente means to Latino players of many generations, his social impact on the game was not the same as Jackie Robinson, whose accomplishments played a part in spurring the civil rights movement in the 1950s. No one in baseball has had that kind of effect, either before or since. That’s not an insult to Clemente; it’s simply a tribute to the impact that Robinson had from the 1940s until his premature death in 1972. 

There may be another reason not to retire Clemente’s number in the way that it has been done for Robinson. A number of contemporary Latino players, such as Sammy Sosa, wear Clemente’s number as a sign of respect. Even though many of these younger Latinos never saw Clemente play, they still have great regard for his accomplishments. Wearing the same number is a nice touch; I like the gesture, which would be lost if Clemente’s number were permanently retired. 

Like Robinson, Clemente has already been honored in a number of ways. The Pirates have long since retired his number 21 and also feature a beautiful bronze statue of “The Great One” outside of PNC Park in Pittsburgh. Major League Baseball annually bestows a humanitarian award in Clemente’s honor. In addition, countless schools and parks across the country—and in Puerto Rico—have been named after Roberto. In my mind, those honors are sufficient to pay homage to one of the game’s greatest players and most admirable humanitarians. With all due respect to the man I consider my baseball hero, it is simply not necessary or appropriate to require that every major league team retire his uniform number. 

Glory Road Meets Minaya’s Mets and the All-Black Lineup

On the one hand, the Texas Western Miners of 1965-66 are celebrated for being the first national championship team in college basketball to field an all-black starting lineup. On the other hand, the Mets of Omar Minaya, who have 15 Latino players on their 40-man roster, are questioned by some for what they perceive as unfairly overloading their roster with Spanish-speaking players. And then there are the 1971 Pirates—the subject of an upcoming book by yours truly—who continue to be overlooked for fielding the first and only all-black lineup in major league history. 

For me, it all comes down to the quality of players. If players on my team can play, I don’t pay much attention to who’s black, who’s white, and who’s from a foreign land. Now I might think about it during a quiet moment, after the game or after the season, but rarely during the heat of a game. I think it comes down to this: in an ideal world, if you can win, and win with a representative and balanced cross-section of white, black, and Latino players, then that’s the best possible scenario. It shows that a team’s management is color blind when it comes to finding the best players to comprise a team. It also serves as a way of proving to the racial naysayers that teams can win with fully integrated rosters, with players of differing ethnic backgrounds playing well on the field and meshing well off the field. It can be done, as evidenced by Texas Western, which defied the odds to win the college championship of 1966, and the Pirates, who also overcame predictions of gloom to win the World Series in 1971. 

This issue raises several questions. Does it matter to you what the racial composition of your team happens to be? Should we, as I believe we should, celebrate championship teams that win with a large degree of ethnic diversity and balance, as a real-life lesson about how people of different races can come together and achieve a united goal? Or should we not pay attention to the breakdowns of these rosters for fear that it will only serve to make people more divisive when it comes to the issue of race?

These aren’t easy questions. The answers aren’t any less difficult.

Defending The WBC

Some of the criticisms of the upcoming World Baseball Classic just don’t make sense. The newly organized tournament, which will debut this March, has been attacked on several fronts. Yet, none of the three major criticisms hold much water. 

The World Baseball Classic can’t be taken seriously because all of the pitchers will be on pitch counts. Well, on this issue, we’ve got news for you: major league pitchers are on pitch counts in every regular season game--and in every postseason game, including the World Series, and that includes both starters and relievers. So in a general sense, there’s very little difference. In today’s game, most starters are held to a limit of 100-120 pitches, and relievers are usually maxed out at 30 to 40 pitchers, with closers being held to a tighter leash. Now it’s true that the pitch counts in the World Baseball Classic will be smaller (ranging from 65 to 80 to 95 pitches, depending on the round), but teams will be able to balance off that problem by carrying larger numbers of pitchers on the active roster. And it’s unlikely that we’ll see an All-Star Game approach, with pitching changes annoyingly made every inning. The number of games in the tournament simply won’t allow that. 

With so many American-born players either questionable for the Classic, or dropping out altogether, the U.S. team won’t be the powerhouse that some envision. Given the depth of American talent currently playing in the major leagues, there will be no shortage of quality players on the U.S. team. As an example, consider the situation at third base, where arguably the game’s best player, Alex Rodriguez, continues to vacillate on whether he will play. Even without A-Rod, the U.S. is stacked with several quality third basemen: Eric Chavez, Morgan Ensberg, and David Wright. All have been All-Star players, with Chavez firmly established as the American League’s best defensive third baseman and Wright seemingly destined for stardom in the nation’s largest market. They may not have A-Rod’s marquee value—at least not yet—but it’s not like these are middling third basemen, scraped from the barrel of mediocrity. A poll of today’s scouts would have Chavez and Wright ranked among the game’s top five third basemen, with Ensberg ranked somewhere in the upper 10 to 12. 

The Classic will have trouble garnering media coverage because it is being played at the same time as the NCAA basketball tournament. To this criticism I ask, “What’s the alternative?” If the games were played during the summer, baseball’s regular season would have to be shut down for several weeks, causing games to be missed and interrupting the ebb and flow of the various pennant races. Major league teams already have a three-day break supplied by the All-Star Game; they simply don’t need another mid-season vacation, one that would last several weeks, at a time when the major leagues should be capitalizing on the fact that the three other major team sports—the NFL, the NBA, and the NHL—are all out of season. Another possibility that has been suggested would have the World Baseball Classic played in November, just after the World Series. Well, there are more problems with that. Coming on the heels of the World Series, the Classic would be considered a letdown, with the final results paling in comparison with those of major league baseball’s postseason. Then there’s also the problem of player fatigue. By November, most players are exhausted, ready to take some relaxing time off at the start of the winter. They’re simply not apt to be in prime condition--either mentally or physically--for another rigorous series of competitive games. 

Furthermore, the conflict with the NCAA tournament in the spring may not be as large an obstacle as foreseen. Other than the championship game, which takes place on a Monday night, all of the NCAA basketball games take place from Thursday through Sunday. That leaves three full days each week—Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday—for the Classic to grab its share of newspaper and SportsCenter headlines. The Classic can take advantage of the weekly lull by scheduling some of the premier matchups during those open pockets of days off. 

Once again, baseball is facing criticism for daring to do something different, just as it did with three-division formats and wild cards. Why do I get the feeling that if the NFL were to try something like this, the national media would be eating it up like candy? Yet, for some reason, baseball is held to a different standard, a standard that simply won’t allow the acceptance of anything that is new and different. 

Why not let this thing develop and unfold, allowing the best baseball-playing countries in the world to show off their national pride in what could very well be a spirited international tournament? Before we condemn it for all sorts of questionable reasons, just give this thing a chance.
The Rumor Mill

It’s inevitable that that the Red Sox will trade David “Boomer” Wells—but not until spring training. The Red Sox have shopped the hefty lefty all winter, but haven’t been overwhelmed with offers thus far. That’s because most interested teams would like to see Wells work off the mound this spring after undergoing off-season knee surgery. The Mets have expressed recent interest (now that they’ve shed Kris Benson’s contract), but the Padres remain the favorites to land Wells. Still, San Diego will probably have to surrender more than Dave Roberts in return. Now that Coco Crisp has been secured to play in between Manny Ramirez and Trot Nixon, the Red Sox don’t have a need for a starting outfielder, just for some outfield depth. Theo Epstein and Company aren’t likely to give up an effective starter like Wells straight-up for a fourth outfielder; they’ll probably insist on having a reliever or a minor league prospect added to the package…

Another veteran starter who will almost certainly change uniforms in 2006 is Jose Contreras, though it’s likely to happen sometime during the season. With the winter acquisition of Javier Vasquez and the long-term commitment given to Jon Garland, Contreras could be made available in a late-season deal for some hitting. Although Contreras pitched splendidly in the second half of the 2005 season, the White Sox have concerns about his age—he may be older than his reported age of 34—and his delivery, which requires a high level of monitoring and maintenance. Several National League teams have already made inquiries into the right-hander’s availability, including the Astros and Phillies…

The Yankees are done with their major maneuvering of the winter, but they’re still considering some bits of fine-tuning between now and Opening Day. GM Brian Cashman remains open to adding a left-handed hitting first baseman who can either push Jason Giambi to the DH role or at the very least strengthen what has been a very weak bench in recent years. One player who intrigues the Yankees is Carlos Pena, who at one time was considered the first baseman of the future in Detroit, but played so poorly last year that he earned a mid-season demotion to the minor leagues. The Tigers would trade Pena for some pitching, which could translate into either Carl Pavano or a package featuring Aaron Small… If a Pavano-for-Pena trade were to transpire, it would not happen until spring training and only until Pavano shows himself to be completely healthy. Given that Pavano is only 30 years old and would be pitching at spacious Comerica Park, he would be a good fit for the Tigers…

Anderson Hernandez has been so impressive in winter ball, winning the Dominican League’s Rookie of the Year Award along the way, that the Mets have decided to stop pursuing second base alternatives via trade. They believe that Hernandez, a converted shortstop who played well at two levels in 2005, is now ready to make the transition to the major leagues. With Hernandez and Jeff Keppinger, the Mets have two minor leaguers capable of challenging the disappointing Kaz Matsui this spring. At $7 million, Matsui is likely to become the game’s most expensive utilityman. 

Pastime Passings

Jake Wade (Died on February 1 in Wildwood, North Carolina; age 93; long-term effects of a stroke): A left-handed pitcher who played in eight major league seasons, Wade saw his career interrupted by service in World War II. The well-traveled Wade forged a record of 27-40 with an ERA of 5.00 while pitching for the Detroit Tigers, St. Louis Browns, Boston Red Sox, Chicago White Sox, Washington Senators, and New York Yankees during the 1930s and forties. Nicknamed “Whistling Jack,” Wade served in the military in 1945 before returning to the major leagues in 1946. After his playing days, he became an electronics repair technician for Cherry Point Marine Corps Air Station in Havelock, North Carolina. 

Carlos Martinez (Died on January 25 in Caracas, Venezuela; age 40; undisclosed disease): At one time a highly regarded teenaged shortstop prospect with the New York Yankees, Martinez spent seven seasons as a first baseman and third basemen with the Chicago White Sox, Cleveland Indians, and California Angels. (He never actually played a single game at shortstop in the major leagues.) According to his wife, he was forced to retire from playing in 1998 because of the onset of the disease that eventually claimed his life. Nicknamed “Café” because of his love of Venezuelan coffee, Martinez batted .258 with 25 home runs, with one of his home runs gaining national notoriety because of unusual circumstances. Playing for the Indians at the time, Martinez lofted a fly ball to right field that bounced off of the head of Texas Rangers outfielder Jose Canseco for a home run. 

Mike Naymick (Died on Oct. 12, 2005 in Stockton, California; age 89): A six-foot, eight-inch right-hander, Naymick finished his career with a record of 5-7 and an ERA of 3.93 in just over 112 innings pitched. He made his debut in 1939 with the Cleveland Indians, with whom he spent the majority of his big league career. His best season came in 1943, when he posted an ERA of 3.10 in 29 games, split eight decisions, and notched two saves. He pitched in 29 games, including four starts, and finished with a 4-4 record, two saves, and a 3.10 ERA. His career ended in 1944, after a short stint with the St. Louis Browns. 

Bruce Markusen is the author of the forthcoming book, The Team That Changed Baseball: Roberto Clemente and the 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates, which is scheduled for release in May by Westholme Publishing. Markusen can be heard periodically on ESPNews’ Hot List with Brian Kenny and every Wednesday morning at 11:00 am on WHAM Radio (1180 AM) in Rochester, New York, discussing the latest issues in baseball.

Bruce Markusen Posted: February 07, 2006 at 01:56 PM | 31 comment(s)
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   1. Jim P Posted: February 07, 2006 at 03:37 PM (#1853676)
And then there are the 1971 Pirates—the subject of an upcoming book by yours truly—who continue to be overlooked for fielding the first and only all-black lineup in major league history.

Having grown up in Pittsburgh in the '70s, my initial reaction was "What?" Three of their starting infielders were white. But they had blacks who also played there, so I'm guessing that you're saying there was at least one game with that lineup (including pitcher?).

The Pirates' feat seems less noteworthy, as it was just that they were just able to field a team (and did), whereas Texas Western's players were all regulars.
   2. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 07, 2006 at 03:45 PM (#1853691)
Having grown up in Pittsburgh in the '70s, my initial reaction was "What?" Three of their starting infielders were white. But they had blacks who also played there, so I'm guessing that you're saying there was at least one game with that lineup (including pitcher?).


Yes. This one. It was well-publicized at the time.

-- MWE
   3. TomH Posted: February 07, 2006 at 03:48 PM (#1853698)
This controversy could have been avoided if MLB hand't been foolish enough to retire Jackie's number permanently, setting the precedent for who-knows-what other circumstances down the road. If I were a young dark-skinned player today, I would WANT to wear the uniform that Robinson did. It's a shame no one else will.
   4. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:00 PM (#1853717)
If I were a young dark-skinned player today, I would WANT to wear the uniform that Robinson did. It's a shame no one else will.

That's pretty much my take on the issue. I thought that having an around-the-league "Jackie Robinson Day" every season was a good idea, and players wearing his number to honor him was a fitting tribute. I didn't really see the point of retiring his number across MLB.

As for the WBC, once I saw the pitch-count limits, I stopped being upset about it, but I still don't care about the issue. And if hard-core baseball fans are split over the WBC, I'm having a hard time seeing how it's going to catch on with the mainstream.
   5. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:02 PM (#1853723)
Thank you, Mike-- I would have wasted valuable time trying to find that.
   6. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:34 PM (#1853774)
The Pirates' feat seems less noteworthy, as it was just that they were just able to field a team (and did), whereas Texas Western's players were all regulars.


The lineup was NOT a stunt. A series of circumstances came together which made it a logical outcome:

(a) The Phillies started a lefty, Woodie Fryman, which put Richie Hebner on the bench. With Jose Pagan out with a broken left arm, Dave Cash moved to 3B, and Rennie Stennett played 2B - as the Pirates had been doing against LHP since Pagan was hurt. Stennett had been called up earlier when Cash and Hebner had missed time due to in-season National Reserve duty, and he played exceptionally well when he was called upon. By mid-August, Stennett, not Bill Mazeroski, was the #1 infield reserve. Cash played 24 games at 3B, all with Pagan out, and all but 1 with Stennett at 2B.
(b) Bob Robertson was nursing a minor knee injury, which necessitated putting Al Oliver at 1st against a lefty.
(c) Gene Alley was also hurt (as he had been for much of the season), which left Jackie Hernandez at SS.
(d) It happened to be Dock Ellis's turn to pitch.

-- MWE
   7. UncleLarry Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:39 PM (#1853786)
As a person of latin decent, I can tell you, that including Sanguillen and Clemente as members of the all black team....just isn't going to fly. Yes, they are dark in completion, but I wouldn't consider it the same as the Texas instance.
Not that I am segregating (well I am but...) I think that latin ballplayers are separate group from African-American. They don't have common culture aside from their color.
   8. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:47 PM (#1853797)
As a person of latin decent, I can tell you, that including Sanguillen and Clemente as members of the all black team....just isn't going to fly.


I think that including Jackie Hernandez is more questionable than including either Sangy or Roberto.

-- MWE
   9. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:49 PM (#1853798)
The lineup was NOT a stunt.

So when you say "it was well-publicized at the time," was this before or after the fact?

I believe you when you say that the circumstances made it logical. OTOH, if the Pirates promoted it days earlier, it makes it seem more like a put-on, planned event (even if it wasn't convoluted).
   10. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:53 PM (#1853812)
So when you say "it was well-publicized at the time," was this before or after the fact?


After the fact.

-- MWE
   11. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: February 07, 2006 at 04:58 PM (#1853824)
As a person of latin decent, I can tell you, that including Sanguillen and Clemente as members of the all black team....just isn't going to fly.

This leads to another question: When was the first all African-American lineup? Has it happened yet?
   12. jwb Posted: February 07, 2006 at 06:35 PM (#1853967)
I thought that having an around-the-league "Jackie Robinson Day" every season was a good idea

The anniversary of his debut would make sense, except for other emotions associated with April 15.
   13. PooNani Posted: February 07, 2006 at 06:45 PM (#1853980)
Whats the source of this Carlos Pena comment? I havent heard anything of the sort before and it doesnt seem at all likely that he would trade Pavano for him when he turned down Pavano for a package from Seattle
   14. battlekow Posted: February 07, 2006 at 06:45 PM (#1853982)
Wow, Rennie Stennett hit 10 homers in 1973 yet still managed to slug only .358. I wonder who had the lowest SLG ever while still in double-digits for HR.
   15. Sandlapper Spike Posted: February 07, 2006 at 07:40 PM (#1854044)
In 1968, Don Wert of the Tigers hit 12 homers and had a .299 SLG. As best as I can tell, that would be the record low SLG with 10+ homers in a season.
   16. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 07, 2006 at 08:17 PM (#1854083)
In 1968, Don Wert of the Tigers hit 12 homers and had a .299 SLG. As best as I can tell, that would be the record low SLG with 10+ homers in a season.


'Tis. Stennett's 1973 doesn't even make the top 150 all-time.

Three of the worst 10 were in 1968 (Wert, Tom Tresh, and Curt Blefary).

Royce Clayton had 11 HR and a .333 SLG in 2003. Shane Halter had 12 and slugged .342.

-- MWE
   17. Buddha Posted: February 07, 2006 at 09:26 PM (#1854170)
Does that mean we can retire Hank Greenberg's number too?
   18. battlekow Posted: February 07, 2006 at 09:45 PM (#1854198)
Royce Clayton had 11 HR and a .333 SLG in 2003. Shane Halter had 12 and slugged .342.

Right in my own backyard. I am shamed.
   19. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 07, 2006 at 10:10 PM (#1854230)
All-time worst 10 SLG, min 10 HR:

Don Wert, 1968, .299 (12)
Deron Johnson, 1974, .305 (13)
Tom Tresh, 1968, .308 (11)
Todd Cruz, 1983, .311 (10)
Darrell Evans, 1976, .316 (11)
Andres Thomas, 1989, .316 (13)
Scott Brosius, 1997, .317 (11)
Bobby Avila, 1956, .318 (10)
Ron Fairly, 1967, .321 (10)
Curt Blefary, 1968, .322 (15)

Blefary had 8 doubles and 1 triple.

And just for the heck of it:

10 worst ratios, (2B+3B)/HR, min 10 HR

Eddie Robinson, 1955, .063 (1 2B, 0 3B, 16 HR)
Mark McGwire, 2001, .138 (4 2B, 0 3B, 29 HR)
Walt Dropo, 1957, .154 (2 2B, 0 3B, 13 HR)
Oscar Gamble, 1984, .200 (2 2B, 0 3B, 10 HR)
Art Shamsky, 1966, .238 (5 2B, 0 3B, 21 HR)
Harmon Killebrew, 1964, .245 (11 2B, 1 3B, 49 HR)
John Blanchard, 1963, .250 (4 2B, 0 3B, 16 HR)
Frank Thomas, 2005, .250 (3 2B, 0 3B, 12 HR)
Mark McGwire, 2000, .250 (8 2B, 0 3B, 32 HR)
Dave Kingman, 1982, .270 (9 2B, 1 3B, 37 HR)

Talk about all-or-very-little guys...

-- MWE
   20. Don Malcolm Posted: February 08, 2006 at 03:50 AM (#1854391)
Mike--What's the lowest SLG for someone with 20+ HRs? Joe Carter</b > comes to mind, but there have to be guys who were lower, right?

Bruce--The WBC is going to be a very tough sell. Your analogy with other baseball "innovations" isn't especially apt, since none of those involved creating a entity separate from the established "schedule." There are clearly issues concerning injuries, etc., that crop up no matter when you schedule such a tournament.

I'm afraid that the WBC, like the Senior League, is one of those ideas that sounds really good but just doesn't quite have the right set of elements to really click. That said, I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

dJf--I'm pretty sure that we've never had nine African-Americans playing defense at the same time in a major league baseball game. And given the ongoing decline in the African-American presence in MLB, it would appear that the chances of it happening are more and more remote.

Jerry Royster--It's in keeping with the truly odd decisionmaking of <b>Bud Selig
that baseball would make it imposssible for players to honor Jackie Robinson by wearing his number. This is yet another "high concept" idea that actually works against its purported intent.
   21. DCW3 * Posted: February 08, 2006 at 04:18 AM (#1854403)
What's the lowest SLG for someone with 20+ HRs? Joe Carter</b > comes to mind, but there have to be guys who were lower, right?

The lowest ever is Dale Murphy in 1989, who hit 20 homers and had a .361 SLG. Carter's "best" year was 1990, when he hit 24 homers and had a .391 SLG, the eleventh lowest ever. The rest of the top ten:

name             year  hr  slg

Willie Kirkland  1962  21  .377
Darrell Evans    1988  22  .380
Ken McMullen     1968  20  .382
Mark McGwire     1991  22  .383
Matt Williams    1992  20  .384
Graig Nettles    1973  22  .386
Rob Deer         1991  25  .386
Kevin Maas       1991  23  .390
Ruben Sierra     1993  22  .390
   22. Bruce Markusen Posted: February 08, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#1855135)
Here is some further information on the first all-black, or all-minority lineup, that was used by the Pirates in September of 1971.

*Clemente himself reguarly referred to himself as a double minority, in other words, both Latino and black. If black is used to define skin color, then Clemente, Sanguillen, and J. Hernandez were all black. For those not comfortable with the use of the word "black," then I think "minority" would be the better word.

*There has never been another all-black, or all-minority, or all-African American lineup in major league history. The Cardinals came close during the 1980s, but never quite had an all-black or all-minority nine. right now, it's a onetime event, with the Pirates of September 1, 1971, holding exclusive rights to the "title."

*I don't think that an all-black lineup during the regular season is as noteworthy as what Texas Western did in the national championship game, but let's keep two things in mind:

1) baseball requires nine players, as opposed to five, so naturally it's more difficult to field an all-black lineup in baseball

2) the '71 Pirates won the World Championship one month after the all-black lineup, while using a lineup that had more minorities than white players. Sanguillen, Cash, Hernandez, Stargell, and Clemente played every day in that World Series, the center fielder was always black (Oliver or Clines), and Jose Pagan started a couple of games at third base. Aside from the pitching staff, the only whites who played regularly in that Series for Pittsburgh were Bob Robertson at first base and Richie Hebner at third base.
   23. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 08, 2006 at 10:35 PM (#1855546)
As you will note from the box score, the all-minority lineup didn't last long. Ellis was knocked out in the second inning, and while the Bucs came back to win, the winning pitcher was the non-minority lefty Luke Walker, who was terrific in relief. As I've mentioned a couple of times, I've never attended a no-hitter, just missing this one on both ends (I went Friday and Sunday but couldn't go Saturday), and this gem by Walker is as close as I've come.

By the way, allow me to get in an early plug:

Bruce Markusen is the author of the forthcoming book, The Team That Changed Baseball: Roberto Clemente and the 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates, which is scheduled for release in May by Westholme Publishing.


Bruce was kind enough to send me a copy of the manuscript, and it's very good; I recommend it highly. The whole era between 1967 and 1975 in the NL has been given very little attention (except for the Miracle Mets), but there were some terrific teams and a lot of excellent baseball being played in the Senior Circuit during that time.

-- MWE
   24. Bruce Markusen Posted: February 09, 2006 at 12:37 PM (#1856078)
Mike,

Thank you very much for the nice words about the book.

Just one bit of follow-up about the all-black lineup. At the time, it received very little publicity, in part because of an ongoing newspaper strike that had hit the city of Pittsburgh.

Only two national publications wrote anything about it: The Sporting News and Sports Illustrated, and they were short blurbs at that.
   25. Gary Garland Posted: February 10, 2006 at 11:03 PM (#1858381)
While this comes after you wrote the original article, Bruce, Yomiuri Giants hall of fame manager and skipper Motoji Fujita died Thrusday at age 74. I have an obituary for him at: http://www.japanbaseballdaily.com/obituary.html

Also, one of Lou Gehrig's gloves was recently sent to Japan to be restored by Tsubota-san of Mizuno, who also does Ichiro's gloves. If you have a story about that it would be great. What I understand is that the glove was originally a gift from one of the Japanese players when Gehrig was part of an MLB barnstorming team that played in Japan in the early 1930's and he took it home and used it. Then the MLB hall of fame got it and then recently sent it to Japan to have it repaired. Tsubota turned it over to U.S. ambassador Tom Schieffer the other day. If you have anything to say about this I would really like to see it. Keep up the good work.
   26. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 10, 2006 at 11:14 PM (#1858394)
At the time, it received very little publicity, in part because of an ongoing newspaper strike that had hit the city of Pittsburgh.


I was 16 at the time, and during the strike I was selling newspapers on the weekend, put out by a company that published weeklies for a number of small municipalities in the area. There was a blurb about it in the those papers, and it did hit the TV news shows as well.

-- MWE
   27. Punky Brusstar (orw) Posted: February 10, 2006 at 11:26 PM (#1858410)
Does that mean we can retire Hank Greenberg's number too?


Heh, maybe you can retire Lip Pike's number.
   28. fables of the deconstruction Posted: February 11, 2006 at 10:03 PM (#1859052)
In my mind, those honors are sufficient to pay homage to one of the game's greatest players and most admirable humanitarians.

I will forgo my repeated quixotic attempts to relegate Roberto Clemente as simply "one of the game's great players" rather than "one of its greatest." Although it does irk me that over the past 33 years, his stature has increased dramatically while Frank Robinson's has been much diminished unjustly.


Bruce,

I posted a short rememberance on Paul Lindblad in the last Cooperstown Confidential (#8) thread, last weekend.

Actually, I was mistaken on my age. I had just turned 11 earlier that month. And yes, I remember you wrote something about that game not too awful long ago... At least I think it was you!?!

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   29. moose Posted: February 15, 2006 at 09:54 PM (#1863724)
#3 Babe Ruth, should be the only number retired in baseball, the greatest player of all time.<b>
   30. jmac66 Posted: February 24, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#1874236)
Does that mean we can retire Hank Greenberg's number too?


and we should retire Lou Sockalexis' number, too, except he didn't wear one
   31. Paul Wendt Posted: March 13, 2006 at 12:43 PM (#1896825)
if you can win, and win with a representative and balanced cross-section of white, black, and Latino players, then that’s the best possible scenario. It shows that a team’s management is color blind when it comes to finding the best players to comprise a team. It also serves as a way of proving to the racial naysayers that teams can win with fully integrated rosters, with players of differing ethnic backgrounds playing well on the field and meshing well off the field. It can be done, as evidenced by Texas Western, which defied the odds to win the college championship of 1966, and the Pirates, who also overcame predictions of gloom to win the World Series in 1971.

Given their starting lineups, I don't see how Texas Western 1966 and Pittsburgh 1971 demonstrate it. Whatever they accomplished by fielding the all-black teams, it wasn't winning with a representative and balanced cross-section of white, black, and Latino players.
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The replies by Mike Emeigh and others explain that the 1971 Pirates team did win a championship with a more balanced team, maybe even one that did it (and the book may explain this point).

On the one hand, the Texas Western Miners of 1965-66 are celebrated for being the first national championship team in college basketball to field an all-black starting lineup. On the other hand, the Mets of Omar Minaya, who have 15 Latino players on their 40-man roster, are questioned by some for what they perceive as unfairly overloading their roster with Spanish-speaking players. And then there are the 1971 Pirates—the subject of an upcoming book by yours truly—who continue to be overlooked for fielding the first and only all-black lineup in major league history.

This contrast between Texas Western 1966 and Pittsburgh 1971 is an overreaction to the latest popular vehicle, which happens to feature Texas Western, at a point in time when the popular vehicle for the Pittsburgh is only a few months away from distribution. The present tense in which Texas Western "is" celebrated on the one hand, and Pittsburgh "is" overlooked on the other, is awfully small. One year ago, Texas Western was the answer to a trivia question that many basketball fans would have missed. It's possible that this season's commercial success (Glory Road) will make that team permanently celebrated, but if this turns out to be its 15 minutes of fame, you heard it here first. It's also possible that TXW66 and PIT71 will both be permanently celebrated after this season's commercial successes, Glory Road and the Markusen book.
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