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Saturday, June 21, 2008

2007 NL OPD (Offense Plus Defense)

What follows is a list of "total player run contribution" for the entire 2007 NL. For defense, it has Defensive Runs Saved at each position a player played, and his total. For offense, it has his Plate Appearances, his Outs Made, and his Extrapolated Runs Above Average at his primary position, park adjusted. These are not adjusted to "162 games", but for the player's actual playing time.

Name              TEAM      1B      2B      3B       C      CF      LF      RF      SS Grand Tot    PA   Outs Xrp+AA    OPD
Utley,Chase       Phi      -0.9    21.4                                                     20.4    612    369   43.1   63.5
Wright,David      NYM                       0.9                                              0.9    711    428   52.1   53.1
Jones,Chipper     Atl                       7.1                                     0.3      7.5    600    365   45.1   52.6
Pujols,Albert     StL      12.1                                                             12.1    679    414   32.4   44.6
Beltran,Carlos    NYM                                      11.1                             11.1    636    420   33.0   44.1
Martin,Russell    LA                                6.2                                      6.2    619    404   31.7   37.9
Holliday,Matt     Col                                              13.2                     13.2    713    447   24.6   37.8
Ramirez,Hanley    Fla                                                             -16.4    -16.4    706    445   53.7   37.3
Reyes,Jose        NYM                                                              14.4     14.4    765    502   18.1   32.4
Fielder,Prince    Mil      -7.7                                                             -7.7    681    421   38.3   30.6
Bonds,Barry       SF                                               -9.2                     -9.2    477    261   38.3   29.2
Helton,Todd       Col      10.4                                                             10.4    682    401   17.2   27.6
Rowand,Aaron      Phi                                       5.1                              5.1    683    447   20.4   25.5
Cabrera,Miguel    Fla                     -18.7                                            -18.7    680    424   44.2   25.4
Rollins,Jimmy     Phi                                                              -2.1     -2.1    778    521   27.1   25.0
Hart,Corey        Mil                                       0.7             3.6              4.3    566    374   19.2   23.4
Tulowitzki,Troy   Col                                                              14.8     14.8    681    453    5.6   20.4
Ramirez,Aramis    ChC                       1.5                                              1.5    558    366   17.8   19.3
Hermida,Jeremy    Fla                                                       5.4              5.4    484    316   13.4   18.8
Hamilton,Josh     Cin                                       1.8     0.7     0.4              2.9    337    219   15.7   18.6
Ross,Cody         Fla                                      -5.2     0.1     1.3             -3.8    197    118   21.7   17.9
Pence,Hunter      Hou                                      -2.2             0.5             -1.7    484    320   19.6   17.9
Kent,Jeff         LA               -2.3                                                     -2.3    562    368   19.6   17.3
Bradley,Milton    SD                                                3.4     0.2              3.6    169    102   13.6   17.2
Gonzalez,Adrian   SD        1.3                                                              1.3    720    476   15.4   16.7
DeRosa,Mark       ChC      -0.3     8.1     4.0                     0.2     0.7     0.4     13.0    574    379    3.3   16.3
Werth,Jayson      Phi      -0.1                             0.1     2.1     3.3              5.4    304    182   10.8   16.1
Teixeira,Mark     Atl      -0.7                                                             -0.7    240    145   16.6   15.9
Greene,Khalil     SD                                                               10.6     10.6    659    478    5.1   15.7
Braun,Ryan        Mil                     -14.9                                            -14.9    492    323   30.5   15.6
Dunn,Adam         Cin                                              -4.9                     -4.9    632    400   20.5   15.6
Johnson,Kelly     Atl              -5.0                                                     -5.0    608    388   20.1   15.1
Howard,Ryan       Phi      -9.1                                                             -9.1    648    407   23.5   14.4
Hawpe,Brad        Col                                                      -2.4             -2.4    606    385   15.8   13.5
GriffeyKen        Cin                                                      -2.5             -2.5    623    405   15.9   13.4
Easley,Damion     NYM       0.3     5.3    -0.1                     0.7     0.2              6.5    217    142    6.9   13.4
Matsui,Kazuo      Col              13.0                                                     13.0    453    302    0.4   13.4
Snyder,Chris      Ari      -0.2                     6.2            -0.2                      5.8    380    260    7.3   13.2
Kemp,Matt         LA                                        0.6             1.2              1.8    311    201   11.0   12.9
McLouth,Nate      Pit                                       1.4     0.6    -2.2             -0.1    381    251   12.8   12.8
Escobar,Yunel     Atl               2.1     0.7                                    -1.3      1.4    355    225   10.8   12.2
Phelps,Josh       Pit       2.1                    -0.7                                      1.5     95     52   10.0   11.4
Hatteberg,Scott   Cin       6.4                                                              6.4    417    261    5.1   11.4
Guzman,Cristian   Was                                                               0.9      0.9    192    120   10.0   10.9
Lee,Derrek        ChC      -2.1                                                             -2.1    650    405   12.7   10.6
Berkman,Lance     Hou      -4.5                            -0.2            -1.9             -6.7    668    421   17.2   10.5
Cameron,Mike      SD                                        0.6                              0.6    651    447    9.9   10.5
Renteria,Edgar    Atl                                                              -8.8     -8.8    543    346   19.1   10.3
Hudson,Orlando    Ari               3.3                                                      3.3    601    398    6.8   10.1
Diaz,Matt         Atl      -0.4                                     3.0     0.4              3.0    384    250    6.6    9.7
Kearns,Austin     Was                                      -0.3             8.7              8.5    674    448    1.0    9.5
Phillips,Brandon  Cin               2.6                                             0.0      2.7    702    495    6.8    9.4
Byrnes,Eric       Ari                                       3.1     8.9    -0.3             11.7    698    464   -2.4    9.3
Molina,Yadier     StL      -0.1                    10.1                                     10.0    396    280   -0.7    9.3
Soriano,Alfonso   ChC              -0.2                    -0.8     3.2                      2.3    617    418    6.8    9.1
Zimmerman,Ryan    Was                      13.5                                             13.5    722    510   -4.5    9.0
Keppinger,Jeff    Cin      -0.2    -0.6     1.7                    -0.3     0.2     1.5      2.2    276    179    6.7    8.8
Spilborghs,Ryan   Col                                       2.6     0.9    -1.9              1.5    300    196    7.1    8.6
Castro,Ramon      NYM                              -2.8                                     -2.8    157    106   11.3    8.5
Soto,Geovany      ChC                               0.6                                      0.6     60     35    7.5    8.1
Morgan,Nyjer      Pit                                       4.7                              4.7    118     76    2.9    7.6
Victorino,Shane   Phi                                      -0.6            10.4              9.9    509    344   -2.3    7.6
Rolen,Scott       StL                      17.5                                             17.5    441    308   -9.9    7.6
Hairston,Scott    SD                                        0.2     0.7                      0.9     95     63    6.6    7.4
McCann,Brian      Atl                              -1.8                                     -1.8    552    395    9.2    7.4
Ethier,Andre      LA                                                4.8    -0.3              4.5    505    337    2.0    6.5
Loney,James       LA       -4.6                                            -0.2             -4.8    375    238   11.0    6.2
Iguchi,Tadahito   Phi               1.9                                                      1.9    156    101    4.0    5.8
Scott,Luke        Hou                                      -1.0    -0.2     0.2             -1.0    425    283    6.8    5.8
Ruiz,Carlos       Phi                               4.7                                      4.7    429    300    1.1    5.8
Giles,Brian       SD                                        0.2            -0.4             -0.2    551    361    5.7    5.5
Molina,Bengie     SF                                2.0                                      2.0    517    375    3.5    5.5
Davis,Rajai       Pit                                       2.0                              2.0    162    104    2.8    4.8
Towles,J.R.       Hou                               1.1                                      1.1     43     26    3.7    4.8
Hopper,Norris     Cin                                       2.4     2.5    -0.2              4.7    335    221   -0.4    4.3
Lewis,Fred        SF                                        0.5     2.4     0.8              3.7    180    117    0.3    4.0
Schneider,Brian   Was      -0.2                     4.6                                      4.4    477    337   -0.5    3.9
Young,Delwyn      LA               -1.0                             1.3                      0.3     36     21    3.4    3.7
Kouzmanoff,Kevin  SD                       -2.0                                             -2.0    534    368    5.6    3.6
Ward,Daryle       ChC       1.0                                    -0.2    -0.8              0.0    133     81    3.5    3.5
Burrell,Pat       Phi                                             -11.2                    -11.2    598    369   14.6    3.4
LaForest,Pete     SD        0.1                    -0.8                                     -0.7     30     16    4.0    3.3
Ludwick,Ryan      StL                                       0.8     3.0     0.6              4.4    339    226   -1.2    3.2
Sanchez,Freddy    Pit              -3.8                                            -0.2     -4.0    652    443    7.1    3.1
Ensberg,Morgan    SD       -0.4             3.1                                              2.7     65     46    0.4    3.1
Graffanino,Tony   Mil       0.9     0.3     7.0                     0.6            -0.4      8.5    260    185   -5.4    3.0
Bowen,Rob         SD                               -2.8                                     -2.8     98     62    5.7    2.9
Treanor,Matt      Fla                              -3.4                                     -3.4    197    130    6.3    2.9
Anderson,Josh     Hou                                       0.0    -0.4     0.1             -0.4     75     44    3.2    2.8
Branyan,Russell   SD                        0.8                     1.1                      1.9    146    100    0.9    2.8
Barajas,Rod       Phi       0.0                     2.4                                      2.4    146    101    0.2    2.6
CruzJose          SD                                       -0.4     5.9     2.6              8.2    293    205   -5.7    2.6
Ankiel,Rick       StL                                      -2.2     0.0     0.1             -2.1    190    131    4.5    2.3
Maxwell,Justin    Was                                       1.4     0.2                      1.6     27     19    0.7    2.3
Alou,Moises       NYM                                              -8.9                     -8.9    360    230   11.1    2.2
Duffy,Chris       Pit                                       6.3                              6.3    270    188   -4.2    2.0
Wilson,Jack       Pit                                                              -4.7     -4.7    534    358    6.7    2.0
Encarnacion,Edwin Cin                       0.0                                              0.0    553    365    1.8    1.8
Coste,Chris       Phi      -0.3                     0.8                                      0.5    137     96    1.3    1.8
Anderson,Marlon   NYM       0.2                            -1.0     0.9    -0.2             -0.1     77     52    1.8    1.6
Smith,Seth        Col                                                      -0.4             -0.4      8      3    1.9    1.5
Rivera,Mike       Mil                               0.3                                      0.3     15     11    1.2    1.4
Church,Ryan       Was                                      -2.5     5.5                      3.1    530    356   -1.8    1.3
Votto,Joey        Cin       0.3                                    -1.4                     -1.1     89     57    2.3    1.2
Belliard,Ronnie   Was      -0.5    -1.1     0.0                                    -1.0     -2.6    557    385    3.8    1.2
Ross,David        Cin                               7.0                                      7.0    349    264   -5.9    1.1
Saltalamacchia,JarAtl      -1.3                    -1.3                                     -2.5    155    105    3.6    1.1
Watson,Brandon    Was                                       1.4    -0.2                      1.3     19     13   -0.2    1.1
Maldonado,Carlos  Pit                               0.1                                      0.1     30     22    0.9    1.0
Gotay,Ruben       NYM              -2.4     0.2                                     1.0     -1.2    211    140    2.2    1.0
Paulino,Ronny     Pit                               1.4                                      1.4    494    353   -0.4    1.0
Cairo,Miguel      StL       0.2     1.5     2.7                    -0.2                      4.2     72     51   -3.3    0.9
Sammons,Clint     Atl                               0.3                                      0.3      3      2    0.5    0.8
Wise,Dewayne      Cin                                       0.5                              0.5      6      4    0.3    0.7
Feliz,Pedro       SF        0.7            23.2    -0.2             0.5    -0.4             23.8    590    434  -23.1    0.7
Reynolds,Mark     Ari              -0.4    -3.7                             0.1             -4.0    414    275    4.6    0.6
Betemit,Wilson    LA               -1.1    -3.3                            -0.5     0.3     -4.6    192    124    5.2    0.6
Weeks,Rickie      Mil             -16.6                                                    -16.6    505    321   17.2    0.5
Jimenez,D'Angelo  Was               1.2    -0.2                                    -1.2     -0.2    128     84    0.7    0.5
Andino,Robert     Fla                                                              -0.1     -0.1     13      8    0.6    0.5
Miller,Corky      Atl                               0.2                                      0.2     29     21    0.2    0.5
Cota,Humberto     Pit                              -0.6                                     -0.6     18     11    1.1    0.4
Ledee,Ricky       NYM                                               1.6                      1.6     43     30   -1.2    0.4
Jorgensen,Ryan    Cin                               0.0                                      0.0     15     12    0.4    0.4
Davis,Rajai       SF                                        1.8     0.0    -1.5              0.3     57     38    0.1    0.4
Ransom,Cody       Hou               0.7     0.4                                    -1.9     -0.7     46     28    1.1    0.3
Gonzalez,Alex     Cin                                                               1.9      1.9    430    303   -1.5    0.3
Hoover,Paul       Fla      -0.3                     0.3                                      0.0      8      5    0.3    0.3
Hanigan,Ryan      Cin                              -0.1                                     -0.1     11      7    0.3    0.3
Harris,Willie     Atl                       0.0             1.3     7.4                      8.7    391    258   -8.5    0.2
Stansberry,Craig  SD                0.4                                                      0.4     10      7   -0.2    0.1
Bonifacio,Emilio  Ari               1.4                                                      1.4     27     18   -1.3    0.1
Murton,Matt       ChC                                      -0.2     1.5    -0.4              0.9    261    173   -0.7    0.1
Ryan,Brendan      StL              -0.7    -1.1                                     0.8     -0.9    199    134    1.0    0.1
Dillon,Joe        Mil      -0.3     1.3    -1.2                     0.6    -1.1             -0.9     82     52    0.9    0.0
Esposito,Brian    StL                               0.0                                      0.0      0      0    0.0    0.0
Uggla,Dan         Fla             -16.4                                                    -16.4    728    501   16.4    0.0
Smith,Jason       Ari                                                               0.3      0.3      4      3   -0.4    0.0
Flores,Jesus      Was                               1.4                                      1.4    197    141   -1.4    0.0
Velez,Eugenio     SF               -1.1                            -0.7                     -1.8     13      8    1.8   -0.1
Langerhans,Ryan   Was                                       0.9     2.4    -0.4              2.9    187    133   -3.0   -0.1
Hernandez,AndersonNYM                                                              -0.2     -0.2      3      2   -0.1   -0.3
Boone,Aaron       Fla      -1.2            -4.0                                             -5.2    227    140    4.9   -0.3
Branyan,Russell   Phi                      -0.9                    -0.2                     -1.0      9      7    0.7   -0.3
Bard,Josh         SD                              -14.3                                    -14.3    443    298   13.9   -0.4
Bourn,Michael     Phi                                      -1.8     3.5    -0.5              1.2    133     88   -1.6   -0.4
Sadler,Donnie     Ari              -0.2                                                     -0.2      1      1   -0.3   -0.5
Ambres,Chip       NYM                                                      -0.4             -0.4      3      2   -0.1   -0.5
Tracy,Chad        Ari       0.9             0.2                                              1.1    260    176   -1.6   -0.6
Fuld,Sam          ChC                                      -0.2    -0.2     0.6              0.2      9      6   -0.8   -0.6
Barker,Sean       Col                                       0.1    -0.2                     -0.1      2      2   -0.5   -0.6
Figueroa,Luis     SF                                               -0.2             0.1     -0.1      5      4   -0.6   -0.7
Floyd,Cliff       ChC                                               0.6    -1.9             -1.2    322    208    0.5   -0.7
LaRoche,Andy      LA                        1.2                    -0.2                      1.0    115     74   -1.7   -0.7
Barrett,Michael   ChC                              -2.7                                     -2.7    231    165    1.9   -0.8
Ojeda,Augie       Ari               0.8     0.9                                    -2.0     -0.3    132     87   -0.5   -0.8
Iannetta,Chris    Col                               0.1                                      0.1    234    160   -0.9   -0.8
Winn,Randy        SF                       -0.1             0.3    -2.9    -0.3             -3.0    653    436    2.2   -0.8
Prado,Martin      Atl               0.2     0.2                                              0.4     62     42   -1.2   -0.8
Branyan,Russell   StL      -0.7             1.7                                              1.0     39     27   -1.9   -0.9
Salazar,Jeff      Ari                                       0.3     0.5     0.4              1.1    103     69   -2.0   -0.9
Bellorin,Edwin    Col                               0.0                                      0.0      2      3   -1.0   -0.9
Clark,Brady       SD                                       -1.5     0.0    -0.9             -2.4     57     36    1.4   -0.9
Lane,Jason        SD                                        0.0            -0.4             -0.3      2      2   -0.6   -1.0
LoDucaPaul        NYM                              -0.4                                     -0.4    488    355   -0.7   -1.0
Cruz,Enrique      Cin                                                              -0.8     -0.8      1      1   -0.3   -1.1
Rodriguez,GuillermSF                               -0.3                                     -0.3     98     69   -0.8   -1.1
Bocachica,Hiram   SD                                        1.2     0.3    -0.1              1.4     68     48   -2.6   -1.1
McAnulty,Paul     SD                                                0.6     1.1              1.7     43     32   -2.9   -1.2
Moeller,Chad      LA                                0.2                                      0.2      9      8   -1.4   -1.2
Sweeney,Mark      SF       -0.8                                    -0.1     0.2             -0.7    107     68   -0.5   -1.2
Pagan,Angel       ChC                                      -0.9    -0.5     0.4             -1.0    161    112   -0.3   -1.3
Rottino,Vinny     Mil       0.1                                    -0.4                     -0.3      9      7   -1.0   -1.3
Gall,John         Fla                                                       0.2              0.2      5      5   -1.4   -1.3
Stewart,Ian       Col                       1.7                                              1.7     46     34   -3.0   -1.3
AlomarJrSandy     NYM                               1.6                                      1.6     22     19   -2.9   -1.3
Moore,Scott       ChC       0.2                                                              0.2      5      5   -1.6   -1.4
Patterson,Eric    ChC                                              -0.5                     -0.5      9      7   -0.9   -1.4
Cantu,Jorge       Cin      -0.6    -0.1    -0.7                                             -1.3     68     45   -0.1   -1.4
Franco,Julio      Atl       1.4                                                              1.4     45     32   -2.9   -1.5
Schumaker,Skip    StL                                      -0.1     1.0    -0.5              0.4    188    126   -2.0   -1.6
Young,Dmitri      Was     -10.1                                                            -10.1    508    329    8.4   -1.7
Bellhorn,Mark     Cin               0.1     0.1                                              0.3     18     13   -2.0   -1.7
DiFelice,Mike     NYM                              -0.8                                     -0.8     47     35   -0.9   -1.8
Valdez,Wilson     LA               -0.3     2.4             0.1    -0.6             1.7      3.2     80     59   -5.0   -1.8
Roberson,Chris    Phi                                       0.3    -0.2    -0.6             -0.5     29     20   -1.3   -1.8
Wigginton,Ty      Hou      -0.2             0.4                    -0.2    -0.2             -0.2    187    131   -1.6   -1.8
Duncan,Chris      StL       0.7                                    -4.6                     -3.9    432    283    2.1   -1.8
Hu,Chin-Lung      LA                                                               -1.3     -1.3     31     24   -0.5   -1.8
Castillo,Luis     NYM              -5.0                                                     -5.0    231    150    3.1   -1.9
Blum,Geoff        SD        0.2     2.5     1.6                     1.2            -1.1      4.5    370    263   -6.4   -2.0
Pena,Brayan       Atl                               1.2                                      1.2     33     28   -3.2   -2.0
Cirillo,Jeff      Ari       0.1    -0.6     2.3                                              1.8     44     33   -3.8   -2.0
Alfonzo,Eliezer   SF                                0.1                                      0.1     67     50   -2.2   -2.1
DaVanon,Jeff      Ari                                               0.1     0.4              0.5     33     24   -2.7   -2.2
Furcal,Rafael     LA                                                                8.0      8.0    643    441  -10.2   -2.2
Quintero,Humberto Hou                               1.0                                      1.0     57     43   -3.2   -2.2
Johnson,Ben       NYM                                               0.5     0.6              1.1     30     23   -3.4   -2.2
Miller,Damian     Mil      -0.7                     3.0                                      2.3    206    153   -4.5   -2.2
Sweeney,Mark      LA        0.3                                                              0.3     34     24   -2.6   -2.3
Anderson,Marlon   LA        0.2    -0.4                                                     -0.2     29     20   -2.1   -2.3
Robles,Oscar      SD               -0.5     0.5                                             -0.1     33     25   -2.3   -2.4
Carroll,Jamey     Col               7.6    -0.3             0.0             0.3     0.7      8.3    268    187  -10.7   -2.4
Ellison,Jason     Cin                                       0.0     0.8     0.8              1.7     56     41   -4.0   -2.4
Hammock,Robby     Ari      -0.1            -0.9     1.2            -0.1     0.1              0.3     49     37   -2.7   -2.4
Pearce,Steve      Pit       0.2                                            -0.9             -0.7     73     50   -1.7   -2.4
Pie,Felix         ChC                                       6.3     0.1                      6.4    194    142   -8.8   -2.4
Barden,Brian      StL               0.5    -0.9                                     0.7      0.3     25     20   -2.7   -2.4
Franco,Julio      NYM       0.9             0.2                                              1.1     61     42   -3.6   -2.6
Kelly,Don         Pit              -0.4                             0.0     0.0     1.0      0.6     32     24   -3.2   -2.6
Pena,WilyMo       Was                                              -5.2    -0.4             -5.6    145     96    2.9   -2.6
Young,Chris       Ari                                      -1.5                             -1.5    624    445   -1.2   -2.7
Koshansky,Joe     Col      -0.7                                                             -0.7     15     12   -2.0   -2.7
Niekro,Lance      SF        0.5                                                              0.5     18     15   -3.2   -2.7
Jones,Jacque      ChC                                       5.1    -1.4     3.0              6.7    495    345   -9.6   -2.9
Abercrombie,ReggieFla                                       1.9     0.3    -0.3              1.9     80     62   -4.8   -2.9
Green,Shawn       NYM      -0.9                                             0.6             -0.3    489    333   -2.7   -3.0
LaRoche,Adam      Pit       8.4                                                              8.4    633    433  -11.3   -3.0
Montero,Miguel    Ari                              -1.3                                     -1.3    243    180   -1.7   -3.0
McClain,Scott     SF       -1.2                                                             -1.2     11      9   -1.8   -3.1
Coats,Buck        Cin                                       0.6    -0.2    -0.5             -0.1     38     29   -3.1   -3.1
Ortmeier,Dan      SF        0.7                            -0.1     0.8    -2.7             -1.3    167    116   -1.9   -3.2
Gil,Geronimo      Col                              -0.4                                     -0.4     16     15   -2.9   -3.3
Francoeur,Jeff    Atl                                                      -0.9             -0.9    696    475   -2.4   -3.3
Wilson,Craig      Atl       1.7                                                              1.7     69     48   -5.1   -3.4
Milledge,Lastings NYM                                      -0.2    -0.8    -1.7             -2.7    206    141   -0.9   -3.5
Fox,Jake          ChC      -0.2                                            -1.0             -1.2     15     13   -2.3   -3.6
Schierholtz,Nate  SF                                                       -1.9             -1.9    117     80   -1.7   -3.6
Barden,Brian      Ari                      -1.0                                             -1.0     12     11   -2.7   -3.7
Gonzalez,Luis     LA                                                1.6                      1.6    526    348   -5.3   -3.7
Wilson,Josh       Was                                                              -1.3     -1.3     25     18   -2.4   -3.8
Eckstein,David    StL                                                              -5.1     -5.1    484    323    1.3   -3.8
Chavez,Endy       NYM                                       1.3     0.6     2.7              4.6    165    118   -8.4   -3.8
Gomez,Carlos      NYM                                       0.4     2.7     0.5              3.6    139     99   -7.4   -3.8
Snelling,Chris    Was                                              -1.1                     -1.1     59     40   -2.7   -3.8
Barmes,Clint      Col              -0.3    -0.3             0.6                     0.1      0.1     39     31   -4.0   -3.9
Cedeno,Ronny      ChC               0.3     0.0                                    -0.2      0.1     80     62   -4.0   -3.9
Carroll,Brett     Fla                                       2.8    -1.5     0.6              1.9     53     42   -6.0   -4.1
Headley,Chase     SD                       -2.2                                             -2.2     21     16   -1.9   -4.1
Spiezio,Scott     StL       0.1    -0.8     2.7                    -0.9    -3.2             -2.0    257    170   -2.2   -4.2
Abreu,Tony        LA                1.8    -0.7                                     1.4      2.5    177    128   -6.7   -4.2
Lieberthal,Mike   LA                                0.0                                      0.0     82     61   -4.2   -4.2
Izturis,Cesar     Pit                       1.0                                     0.0      1.0    130     91   -5.2   -4.3
Valentin,Javier   Cin      -0.2                    -4.3                                     -4.6    265    185    0.3   -4.3
Monroe,Craig      ChC                                       0.1     0.3     0.1              0.5     55     42   -4.8   -4.3
Lamb,Mike         Hou      -2.2            -7.5                            -0.3            -10.0    353    229    5.6   -4.5
Amezaga,Alfredo   Fla       0.1    -0.6    -3.3             0.8     0.1     0.1     3.1      0.4    448    307   -4.8   -4.5
Jones,Brandon     Atl                                              -1.7                     -1.7     21     17   -2.8   -4.6
Blanco,Henry      ChC       0.3                     0.1                                      0.4     58     47   -5.1   -4.7
Ausmus,Brad       Hou       0.2    -0.1    -0.9     2.8                                      1.9    397    283   -6.6   -4.7
Munson,Eric       Hou       0.3                    -2.6                                     -2.3    150    111   -2.6   -4.9
Willingham,Josh   Fla                                              -9.2                     -9.2    603    394    4.2   -5.0
Kendall,Jason     ChC                              -7.0                                     -7.0    201    131    2.0   -5.0
Bruntlett,Eric    Hou                       0.5             0.5     0.2    -0.4    -0.9     -0.1    165    111   -4.9   -5.0
Gwynn,Tony        Mil                                      -3.6     0.2     0.7             -2.7    135     91   -2.3   -5.0
Nix,Laynce        Mil                                      -1.5    -0.2                     -1.8     12     12   -3.3   -5.1
Mabry,John        Col                      -0.5                     0.1                     -0.5     39     31   -4.6   -5.1
Taguchi,So        StL              -0.4                     0.1    -0.3     0.6              0.0    340    232   -5.2   -5.2
Sullivan,Cory     Col                                      -0.8    -0.2    -0.2             -1.2    153    107   -4.0   -5.2
Vizquel,Omar      SF                                                               22.9     22.9    575    418  -28.2   -5.3
Batista,Tony      Was      -0.5            -0.5                                             -1.0    118     81   -4.3   -5.3
Jackson,Conor     Ari      -2.6            -0.3                    -0.2                     -3.2    477    309   -2.2   -5.4
Linden,Todd       SF                                       -0.7     0.6     0.4              0.3     60     45   -5.6   -5.4
Bowen,Rob         ChC                              -0.1                                     -0.1     36     32   -5.3   -5.4
Conine,Jeff       Cin       2.3            -0.2                             0.1              2.2    242    169   -7.6   -5.4
Reed,Eric         Fla                                      -2.1                             -2.1     21     18   -3.5   -5.5
Gross,Gabe        Mil                                       0.9    -2.2    -3.5             -4.7    210    142   -0.9   -5.7
Clark,Brady       LA                                       -0.8     0.2     0.4             -0.2     66     47   -5.6   -5.8
Jenkins,Geoff     Mil                                               4.5                      4.5    463    324  -10.4   -5.9
Bennett,Gary      StL      -0.1                    -1.2                                     -1.3    170    128   -4.7   -6.0
Olivo,Miguel      Fla                               1.8                                      1.8    469    358   -7.8   -6.0
Mackowiak,Rob     SD                                       -1.0     0.2     0.9              0.1     61     47   -6.1   -6.0
Restovich,Michael Was                                              -0.3    -0.9             -1.2     29     24   -5.0   -6.1
Counsell,Craig    Mil               3.1     4.5                                     2.1      9.7    334    234  -16.0   -6.2
Fontenot,Mike     ChC               0.5                                            -4.2     -3.7    260    178   -2.5   -6.3
Wilson,Preston    StL                                                      -0.4             -0.4     68     52   -5.9   -6.3
Doumit,Ryan       Pit      -2.2                    -1.4                    -3.4             -7.0    279    189    0.7   -6.4
Newhan,David      NYM              -0.6    -0.2                     0.6                     -0.2     83     60   -6.4   -6.6
Theriot,Ryan      ChC               4.6    -2.7                     0.3    -0.6     7.6      9.3    597    417  -16.0   -6.7
Valentin,Jose     NYM              -0.8                                                     -0.8    183    133   -5.9   -6.7
Everett,Adam      Hou                                                               6.3      6.3    236    173  -13.1   -6.8
Hill,Koyie        ChC                               0.8                    -0.2              0.7    105     85   -7.6   -6.9
Moeller,Chad      Cin                              -1.1                                     -1.1     49     43   -5.8   -6.9
Frandsen,Kevin    SF                1.9     2.2                    -0.5    -0.2    -0.2      3.1    296    216  -10.1   -7.0
Eldred,Brad       Pit       0.5                                             0.1              0.6     47     42   -7.7   -7.1
Quintanilla,Omar  Col              -1.2                                             0.2     -0.9     75     57   -6.3   -7.3
Clark,Tony        Ari      -1.1                                                             -1.1    245    177   -6.4   -7.5
Conine,Jeff       NYM      -1.8                                    -1.8     0.1             -3.5     50     36   -4.2   -7.7
Hillenbrand,Shea  LA       -0.7            -1.1                                             -1.8     74     58   -6.0   -7.8
Nady,Xavier       Pit                                       1.6    -2.6    -4.2             -5.3    470    331   -2.5   -7.8
Linden,Todd       Fla                                      -1.1    -0.9    -1.2             -3.2    144     98   -4.9   -8.2
Pierre,Juan       LA                                        1.8                              1.8    729    504  -10.0   -8.2
Saenz,Olmedo      LA        0.5             0.3                                              0.8    132     98   -9.0   -8.2
Palmeiro,Orlando  Hou                                               0.5    -0.8             -0.3    122     83   -8.1   -8.4
Upton,Justin      Ari                                                       0.8              0.8    152    112   -9.3   -8.6
Stinnett,Kelly    StL                              -0.5                                     -0.5     87     71   -8.0   -8.6
Dobbs,Greg        Phi       0.1     0.1    -5.7                     0.6     0.3             -4.6    358    247   -3.9   -8.6
Giles,Marcus      SD                6.4                                                      6.4    477    342  -15.2   -8.8
Estrada,Johnny    Mil                              -5.5                                     -5.5    464    343   -3.4   -8.9
Atkins,Garrett    Col       0.3           -15.3                                            -15.1    684    449    6.1   -8.9
Wood,Jason        Fla       1.8    -0.8    -2.1                    -0.4                     -1.4    127     92   -7.5   -8.9
Mench,Kevin       Mil                                               0.2     0.4              0.7    308    217   -9.6   -8.9
Taveras,Willy     Col                                     -10.3                            -10.3    408    263    1.3   -9.0
Delgado,Carlos    NYM       0.7                                                              0.7    607    417   -9.8   -9.2
Edmonds,Jim       StL       0.0                            -4.4                             -4.4    411    287   -5.0   -9.4
Finley,Steve      Col                                       0.3             0.2              0.4    102     79   -9.9   -9.5
Encarnacion,Juan  StL                                       0.2            -3.5             -3.3    307    219   -6.3   -9.6
Castro,Juan       Cin               1.3    -1.6                                     1.0      0.6     98     79  -10.5   -9.9
Quentin,Carlos    Ari                                              -0.2     4.4              4.2    263    190  -14.3  -10.0
Lopez,Pedro       Cin              -1.7                                            -3.2     -4.9     47     37   -5.2  -10.1
Roberts,Dave      SF                                       -5.9    -0.2                     -6.1    442    302   -4.2  -10.3
Hairston,Scott    Ari                                      -0.2     3.9                      3.7    199    144  -14.0  -10.3
Sledge,Terrmel    SD                                                1.3     0.6              1.8    233    168  -12.2  -10.4
Orr,Pete          Atl              -1.4    -0.8                    -0.3                     -2.5     69     54   -8.0  -10.5
Borchard,Joe      Fla                                               0.2     1.6              1.8    202    148  -12.3  -10.5
Torrealba,Yorvit  Col                              -1.6                                     -1.6    441    320   -9.1  -10.6
Langerhans,Ryan   Atl                                              -0.4                     -0.4     52     45  -10.8  -11.1
Klesko,Ryan       SF        5.8                                     0.2    -0.7              5.2    411    284  -16.5  -11.3
Logan,Nook        Was                                      -0.1                             -0.1    350    254  -11.6  -11.7
DeAzaAlejandro    Fla                                      -2.1                             -2.1    158    120   -9.6  -11.7
Jones,Andruw      Atl                                      -4.6                             -4.6    659    469   -7.1  -11.7
Hardy,J.J.        Mil                                                             -11.7    -11.7    637    446   -0.3  -12.0
Kata,Matt         Pit              -1.7    -2.6                     0.3    -0.2    -1.2     -5.4     90     70   -6.7  -12.1
Ensberg,Morgan    Hou                      -4.5                                             -4.5    259    182   -7.8  -12.3
Lane,Jason        Hou                                       0.0    -1.1    -0.7             -1.8    191    147  -10.6  -12.4
Barrett,Michael   SD                               -3.7                                     -3.7    136    109   -9.3  -13.1
Woodward,Chris    Atl       0.1    -1.8     1.3                                     0.5      0.1    151    117  -14.1  -14.0
Casto,Kory        Was      -1.0                                    -1.6                     -2.6     57     51  -11.8  -14.4
Baker,Jeff        Col       0.5             1.0                     0.0    -1.7             -0.3    159    119  -14.5  -14.7
Bay,Jason         Pit                                              -1.1                     -1.1    613    421  -13.6  -14.8
Aurilia,Rich      SF        4.7    -0.4     0.4                                     1.7      6.4    358    256  -21.2  -14.8
Izturis,Cesar     ChC                                                              -2.3     -2.3    207    152  -12.8  -15.1
Martinez,Ramon    LA       -0.3    -4.3     2.2                                    -2.3     -4.7    147    111  -10.5  -15.1
Miles,Aaron       StL               1.5     1.1                    -0.3            -6.3     -4.0    448    314  -11.4  -15.4
Jacobs,Mike       Fla      -1.7                                                             -1.7    459    326  -13.8  -15.4
Callaspo,Alberto  Ari              -0.3     0.8                    -1.0    -0.3     2.1      1.3    156    122  -16.8  -15.5
Loretta,Mark      Hou       1.2     0.0    -4.6                                    -4.4     -7.8    511    347   -7.9  -15.7
Freel,Ryan        Cin              -0.3     0.0            -4.0    -0.4                     -4.6    303    215  -11.3  -15.8
Hall,Bill         Mil                                     -10.8                            -10.8    503    354   -5.7  -16.5
Kennedy,Adam      StL               3.4                                    -0.5     0.1      3.0    306    229  -19.7  -16.7
Bautista,Jose     Pit                      -8.7            -0.2     0.4     0.1             -8.4    614    423   -8.3  -16.7
Burke,Chris       Hou               0.4                    -2.3     0.4    -2.8     0.0     -4.3    363    264  -13.4  -17.7
Nunez,Abraham     Phi              -2.9     5.6                                    -0.3      2.4    287    207  -20.7  -18.3
Lee,Carlos        Hou                                             -22.2                    -22.2    697    477    3.8  -18.3
Helms,Wes         Phi      -2.4            -0.2                                             -2.6    308    226  -17.1  -19.7
Thorman,Scott     Atl       1.9                                                              1.9    307    234  -23.4  -21.5
Drew,Stephen      Ari                                                              -9.4     -9.4    619    431  -12.7  -22.1
Fick,Robert       Was      -1.9                                    -1.6    -0.5             -4.0    221    162  -18.2  -22.3
Garciaparra,Nomar LA       -2.6            -1.6                                             -4.2    466    319  -18.2  -22.4
Biggio,Craig      Hou              -7.7             0.0                                     -7.7    555    404  -17.7  -25.4
Lopez,Felipe      Was               1.2                                           -11.2    -10.0    671    477  -15.8  -25.8
Durham,Ray        SF               -6.5                                                     -6.5    528    390  -21.5  -28.0
Castillo,Jose     Pit              -8.0     0.5                             0.1    -0.8     -8.2    229    179  -20.8  -29.0

Chris Dial Posted: June 21, 2008 at 07:30 PM | 50 comment(s)
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   1. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: June 21, 2008 at 07:47 PM (#2828583)
Giants: Bonds out, Castillo in...... hmmm, makes perfect sense to me.
   2. Eric J Posted: June 21, 2008 at 07:50 PM (#2828586)
And this year helped Biggio's chances of making the Hall of Fame...
   3. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:02 PM (#2828594)
Thanks for these OPD numbers, Chris. This is exactly what I was asking for in a recent thread.

I would also like to take this time to point out that the 11th most valuable position player in the NL last year still does not have a job.
   4. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:05 PM (#2828597)
This also reminds me of another stat I would like to see: umpire ERA. Small sample sizes are certainly a concern, but it would be nice to see multi-year umpire ERA numbers to see the extent of the effect individual umpires have on pitchers.

We all know that individual umps have reputations for having different strike zones, but I would like to see how much of an effect they have.
   5. Blackadder Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:06 PM (#2828598)
Assuming I am reading the chart right, how is Beltran so much better than Rowand on offense (33.0 vs 20.4)? His OPS+ advantage was pretty small (126 vs 123), and Rowand had more playing time. Their Palmer linear weights are very close (22.3 for Beltran vs 21.3 for Rowand). Their VORPs are basically the same (52.0 for Rowand, 51.1 for Beltran). Yeah, none of those are perfect, but the fact that they all independently have Rowand and Beltran pretty much tied on offense makes me curious how they could differ so much here.
   6. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:07 PM (#2828599)
While I'm here posting by myself, I would also like to see 2008 OPD numbers, because man, the non-Bonds Giants sucked last year.
   7. Danny Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:08 PM (#2828602)
This also reminds me of another stat I would like to see: umpire ERA. Small sample sizes are certainly a concern, but it would be nice to see multi-year umpire ERA numbers to see the extent of the effect individual umpires have on pitchers.

We all know that individual umps have reputations for having different strike zones, but I would like to see how much of an effect they have.


You should check out BP's Umpire Report.
   8. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:11 PM (#2828608)
Re: #5

Good question. Beltran only has a .005 edge in OBP, and it doesn't seem as if his 10-1 SB-CS would make that much of a difference compared to Rowand's 6-3 SB-CS.

Are those the right numbers, Chris? Do you have a different park effect than others use?
   9. Danny Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:13 PM (#2828611)
Assuming I am reading the chart right, how is Beltran so much better than Rowand on offense (33.0 vs 20.4)?

And how is Wright 20 runs ahead of Pujols in position adjusted offense? BPro has Wright about 5-8 runs ahead, depending on the metric.
   10. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:13 PM (#2828612)
Oops. I had Beltran's 2008 OBP - his 2007 OBP was .021 lower than Rowand's. Also, his SB-CS was 11-1.
   11. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:14 PM (#2828613)
You should check out BP's Umpire Report.


Thanks Danny. I wish they had multi-year reports, though.
   12. Misirlou don't work cause vandals took the handle Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:37 PM (#2828639)
Oops. I had Beltran's 2008 OBP - his 2007 OBP was .021 lower than Rowand's. Also, his SB-CS was 11-1.


Beltran was 23-2 last year.
   13. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 08:42 PM (#2828643)
Beltran was 23-2 last year.


I have "looking things up" issues.
   14. bfan Posted: June 21, 2008 at 10:43 PM (#2828755)
And ladies and gentleman, your 15th place finisher, and MVP...wow-that seems fair.
   15. Boots Day Posted: June 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM (#2828784)
Boy, are there ever some big names at the bottom of that chart.
   16. Sparkles Peterson Posted: June 22, 2008 at 12:13 AM (#2828790)
I wonder what Utley's OPD would be if he was a Met.
   17. DCW3 * Posted: June 22, 2008 at 01:37 AM (#2828802)
And how is Wright 20 runs ahead of Pujols in position adjusted offense? BPro has Wright about 5-8 runs ahead, depending on the metric.

I'm not sure how Wright's supposed to be seven runs better than Chipper on offense, either.
   18. Robert S. Posted: June 22, 2008 at 01:48 AM (#2828804)
Stephen Drew sucks.
   19. DCW3 * Posted: June 22, 2008 at 02:02 AM (#2828809)
Yeah, there's definitely something funky going on with those XRAA. Carlos Lee, for instance, stands out as one of the "big names" at the bottom of the chart, but he's given 3.8 offensive runs over position. BB-Ref's Batting Runs, however, put him at 24.3 runs above average. The difference between the average LF and the average hitter is not 20 runs a year.
   20. Robert in Redondo Posted: June 22, 2008 at 03:05 AM (#2828818)
And how is Wright 20 runs ahead of Pujols in position adjusted offense? BPro has Wright about 5-8 runs ahead, depending on the metric.

I'm not sure how Wright's supposed to be seven runs better than Chipper on offense, either.


His dreamyness factor pushes him over the top.

Yeah, there's definitely something funky going on with those XRAA. Carlos Lee, for instance, stands out as one of the "big names" at the bottom of the chart, but he's given 3.8 offensive runs over position. BB-Ref's Batting Runs, however, put him at 24.3 runs above average. The difference between the average LF and the average hitter is not 20 runs a year.

I think Lee wins the award for most wrong value in this table. His defensive rating is pretty silly as well. Unless he played the year with no legs, he couldn't have been that bad. Must be a park issue there.
   21. dr. bleachers Posted: June 22, 2008 at 05:59 AM (#2828826)
Ryan Ludwick's at -1.2 according to XrpAA? Someone explain this to me.
   22. Aspiring One-Armed Economist (6 - 4 - 3) Posted: June 22, 2008 at 06:02 AM (#2828827)
Ryan Ludwick's at -1.2 according to XrpAA? Someone explain this to me.

2007, not 2008
   23. dr. bleachers Posted: June 22, 2008 at 06:12 AM (#2828828)
I need either a breathalyzer for my computer or for it to shut itself down after midnight on the weekends.
   24. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 01:41 PM (#2828933)
I will re-check the calculations and also post positional averages.
   25. PreservedFish Posted: June 22, 2008 at 02:30 PM (#2828959)
Although Beltran, Wright and Reyes all do seem too high, the real head scratcher is Damion Easley. Look at the guys he's right next to ... Ryan Howard, Lance Berkman, Brian McCann, Alfonso Soriano.
   26. DCW3 * Posted: June 22, 2008 at 03:20 PM (#2829010)
Although Beltran, Wright and Reyes all do seem too high, the real head scratcher is Damion Easley. Look at the guys he's right next to ... Ryan Howard, Lance Berkman, Brian McCann, Alfonso Soriano.

Easley's offensive numbers do look a little too high (he should probably be around +4), but what really boosts him there is that he's credited with 5.3 defensive runs above average at 2B in only 335 innings. That would put him at about +20 over the course of a full season, and, best as I can tell, gives him the fourth-best defensive rate of any MLB 2B, behind only Utley, Ellis and Carroll. Which seems unlikely, but I dunno.
   27. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 08:52 PM (#2829307)
I went over these again, and if ther eis a calc error ( and ther estill could be), I cannot find it. I also put another run estimator - Tech RC in the spreadsheet and calculated the differences. THere were some players off by as much as 15 runs, but it was speedsters (Juan Pierre, Rickie Weeks), and usually higher in my work. Carlos Lee has 110 XR, in 477 Outs. All NL LFs generated 0.2218 runs per out. They averaged 108 RC over a season of outs (487 per team, sum of all LF outs divided by 16).

The HOU PF is 100. So Lee generates 3.8 XR+ accounting for the slight difference in outs. The entire NL generates 0.19394 x-runs per out. In Carlos' outs (477), the average NL hitter would generate 92.5 x-runs. So, compared to NL average, Carlos is +17.1.

Carlos hit into 27 GiDPs, so anything not accounting for that would increase this.
   28. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 08:54 PM (#2829309)
As the MGL thread indicated earlier, low IP on defense can make for some really high rates (and thus DRS in those innings). You can't really extrapolate those to a season. HOWEVER, it does mean that on average, he made 5 more plays than the average 2B.
   29. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 08:54 PM (#2829310)
To sum up, I'm pretty sure these XRAA+ are correct. I do use some vlookups and so I understand the concern.
   30. Eric J Posted: June 22, 2008 at 08:55 PM (#2829311)
DPs would explain a lot of the other questions as well - Rowand had more than Beltran, and Pujols hit into 27.
   31. Raskolnikov Posted: June 22, 2008 at 08:57 PM (#2829313)
Damion Easley for Lance Berkman. Done. This way towards Shea, Lance.
   32. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 09:02 PM (#2829321)
Must be a park issue there.
There may be some park factor there. Lee has always been bad though.
   33. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 09:04 PM (#2829323)
DPs would explain a lot of the other questions as well - Rowand had more than Beltran, and Pujols hit into 27.
Why should anyone assume there are different factors in the calculations when you can blame fanboyism or incompetence?

(THat's a joke, kids)
   34. Danny Posted: June 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM (#2829437)
Comparing players only to their own league might explain a lot of the apparent strangeness, though I'm not sure that's the best method given interleague play.

Carlos Lee (126 OPS+) hit a whole lot better than Shannon Stewart (101 OPS+) last year, and they're both LFers, but Lee comes out just 2 runs better with the bat than Stewart in this metric. That's because NL LFers had a 120 OPS+ last year, while AL LFers had a 100 OPS+.
   35. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 10:51 PM (#2829445)
Comparing players only to their own league might explain a lot of the apparent strangeness, though I'm not sure that's the best method given interleague play.
My personal philosophy in this is that when it comes to "competing", the NL teams only compete with the other NL teams wrt making the playoffs.
   36. Blackadder Posted: June 22, 2008 at 11:00 PM (#2829456)
I can't speak for anyone else, but I did not mean to suggest incompetence; I was merely curious how the results differed so much from other methods. I guess the suggestions thus far are DPs and stolen bases, which doesn't seem like it can quite close a 13 run gap, but I guess it may be enough to get it within a reasonable "margin of error" for this sort of thing.
   37. Danny Posted: June 22, 2008 at 11:03 PM (#2829460)
I definitely understand that, and I'm not quite sure which way is better. It's true that teams only compete with other teams in their league for playoff spots. But the playoff determinants are wins and losses, and wins and losses are settled against the teams you actually play.

For example, the Shannon Stewart was giving the A's a slight edge compared to other LFers when they played the AL, but he was a liability in their 18 games against the NL. That's especially true since the NL teams the A's faced (SF for 6 games, CIN, HOU, NYM, STL) all had better production from LF than Stewart provided.

I guess it would be ideal to weight it by individual schedules, but that's probably not worth the effort.
   38. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 11:25 PM (#2829478)
I guess it would be ideal to weight it by individual schedules, but that's probably not worth the effort.
I agree, with both parts of this sentence with my personal capabilities. VORP does this, and I think it is the best offensive metric. I would change one thing about it - "average" is a known value. Replacement level is not. Define average (so cross era comparisons are easier), and use that baseline. After all, RL is going to be set some distance from that.
   39. Chris Dial Posted: June 22, 2008 at 11:28 PM (#2829481)
I can't speak for anyone else, but I did not mean to suggest incompetence
I was joking. I know it's easy to have a calc issue - and I publish this way so others can critique and question. I'm not perfect, and that's why I take that observation that something looks off, and I re-construct the calculations (I did) and I also calculated every player using Tech RC to see where there were issues. So, there's nothing wrong with your questions - they are teh QC of this type of work - you are *supposed* to suggest incompetence - that's usually the correct source for that type of difference.
   40. Cabbage Posted: June 23, 2008 at 11:07 AM (#2829784)
Maybe I'm misreading the graph, but I think you missed a digit in G. Soto's PAs
   41. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 23, 2008 at 12:25 PM (#2829873)
The JJ Hardy defensive number puzzles me just a tad. I am also VERY surprised that Estrada isn't double digits. He was dreadful in 2007. I have no issue with the other Brewers.

That and Mark DeRosa grading out so well at second. Always liked him as a player. But by this he should just PLAY second base and quit being pushed around the diamond.
   42. Teddy F. Ballgame Posted: June 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM (#2829907)
I didn't know Chipper Jones played any shortstop last year, so at least I've learned that much.
   43. DCW3 * Posted: June 23, 2008 at 01:00 PM (#2829914)
Maybe I'm misreading the graph, but I think you missed a digit in G. Soto's PAs

No, he didn't. This is for 2007, remember?
   44. JPWF13 Posted: June 23, 2008 at 01:13 PM (#2829924)
Using ERP this is my list of runs above average for 2007:
NAME POS runs aavg
Chipper Jones 3b 52.8
David Wright 3b 47.8
Hanley Ramirez ss 45.4
Chase Utley 2b 43.8
Albert Pujols 1b 39.1
Barry Bonds lf 35.3
Prince Fielder 1b 35.3
Miguel Cabrera 3b 34
Matt Holliday lf 32.7
Ryan Braun 3b 32.4
Carlos Beltran cf 30.4
Jimmy Rollins ss 30.3
Aaron Rowand cf 29.2
Russell Martin c 27.7
Hunter Pence cf 25.1
Edgar Renteria ss 24.6
Ryan Howard 1b 23.3
Kelly Johnson 2b 22.5
Todd Helton 1b 20.7
Corey Hart rf 20.4

FWIW I have Carlos Lee at +12.3
   45. JPWF13 Posted: June 23, 2008 at 01:15 PM (#2829926)
Top 30, using ERP and some combination of UZR and RZR whose rationale I can't quite recall:

Chipper Jones 3b 57.3
David Wright 3b 55.5
Chase Utley 2b 55.2
Albert Pujols 1b 54.1
Matt Holliday lf 37.7
Carlos Beltran cf 37.6
Hanley Ramirez ss 33.8
Barry Bonds lf 31.5
Todd Helton 1b 29.8
Jimmy Rollins ss 29.8
Aaron Rowand cf 29.6
Prince Fielder 1b 29.4
Russell Martin c 27.7
Troy Tulowitzki ss 26.9
Hunter Pence cf 26.3
Miguel Cabrera 3b 25.2
Corey Hart rf 23.8
Edgar Renteria ss 23.2
Aramis Ramirez 3b 21.8
Jose Reyes ss 20.8
   46. Cabbage Posted: June 23, 2008 at 01:18 PM (#2829930)
No, he didn't. This is for 2007, remember?

No, I didn't. Way to be observant on my part, eh?
   47. Master of Karate and Friendship (Kyle C) Posted: June 23, 2008 at 03:25 PM (#2830113)
Comparing players only to their own league might explain a lot of the apparent strangeness, though I'm not sure that's the best method given interleague play.

Carlos Lee (126 OPS+) hit a whole lot better than Shannon Stewart (101 OPS+) last year, and they're both LFers, but Lee comes out just 2 runs better with the bat than Stewart in this metric. That's because NL LFers had a 120 OPS+ last year, while AL LFers had a 100 OPS+.


The best way to fix this, IMO, is to average both league's position against average.

Using the LF example, I had AL LF linear weights rate at about 97.5% of the average AL hitter while the NL LF were at about 108%. Combine them (adjusting for PA obviously) and it comes out about 103%.

Then I compare the AL LF to the average AL line X 1.03 and a park factor and do the same for the NL LF.

To go back to the players you listed, I had Lee at +10 over the average LF on offense and Stewart at -5.

Chris, are you using just raw DP in your numbers or are you adjusting for opportunities as well?

Anyway, here are all the NL players I have at a combined +/-10 or greater. The numbers go batting runs above position, fielding runs, then combined.

1 Chase Utley PHI 2B 45 21 65
2 Chipper Jones ATL 3B 55 6 60
3 Matt Holliday COL LF 41 11 51
4 Albert Pujols SLN 1B 36 14 50
5 David Wright NYN 3B 47 -1 46
6 Todd Helton COL 1B 23 11 34
7 Carlos Beltran NYN CF 24 10 34
8 Aaron Rowand PHI CF 24 8 32
9 Hanley Ramirez FLO SS 47 -15 32
10 Russell Martin LAN C 23 8 32
11 Troy Tulowitzki COL SS 12 16 29
12 Jimmy Rollins PHI SS 31 -2 29
13 Barry Bonds SFN LF 39 -11 28
14 Aramis Ramirez CHN 3B 25 2 27
15 Prince Fielder MIL 1B 33 -7 26
16 Jose Reyes NYN SS 11 12 24
17 Alfonso Soriano CHN LF 12 11 23
18 Eric Byrnes ARI LF 8 14 21
19 Jayson Werth PHI RF 10 10 20
20 Kazuo Matsui COL 2B 3 16 19
21 Hunter Pence HOU CF 20 -2 19
22 Josh Hamilton CIN CF 13 5 19
23 Derrek Lee CHN 1B 19 -2 17
24 Ryan Braun MIL 3B 32 -14 17
25 Adam Dunn CIN LF 25 -8 17
26 Corey Hart MIL RF 16 1 17
27 Cody Ross FLO CF 18 -2 17
28 Milton Bradley SDN LF 12 4 16
29 Mark DeRosa CHN 2B 4 12 16
30 Josh Phelps PIT PH 15 1 16
31 Miguel Cabrera FLO 3B 34 -19 15
32 Edgar Renteria ATL SS 23 -9 15
33 Mark Teixeira ATL 1B 15 -1 14
34 Yunel Escobar ATL SS 13 1 14
35 Ryan Zimmerman WAS 3B 0 14 14
36 Khalil Greene SDN SS 4 9 13
37 Jeff Kent LAN 2B 17 -3 13
38 Shane Victorino PHI RF 0 13 13
39 Jeff Keppinger CIN SS 10 3 13
40 Jeremy Hermida FLO RF 7 6 13
41 Pat Burrell PHI LF 21 -8 13
42 Matt Diaz ATL LF 9 3 12
43 Daryle Ward CHN PH 12 0 12
44 Chris Snyder ARI C 6 6 11
45 Brandon Phillips CIN 2B 9 2 11
46 Ryan Howard PHI 1B 21 -10 11
47 Kelly Johnson ATL 2B 18 -7 11
48 Damion Easley NYN 2B 5 6 11
49 Brad Hawpe COL RF 14 -3 10
50 Orlando Hudson ARI 2B 7 3 10
51 Adrian Gonzalez SDN 1B 10 0 10
52 Cristian Guzman WAS SS 9 1 10

314 Shea Hillenbrand LAN 3B -8 -2 -10
315 Chris Young ARI CF -8 -2 -10
316 Juan Encarnacion SLN RF -6 -5 -10
317 Ryan Langerhans ATL LF -10 -1 -10
318 Jim Edmonds SLN CF -9 -2 -11
319 Justin Upton ARI RF -11 0 -11
320 J.J. Hardy MIL SS 0 -12 -11
321 Steve Finley COL CF -12 0 -11
322 Michael Barrett SDN C -8 -3 -12
323 Morgan Ensberg HOU 3B -6 -5 -12
324 Carlos Delgado NYN 1B -12 0 -12
325 Johnny Estrada MIL C -6 -6 -12
326 Jason Bay PIT LF -5 -7 -12
327 Xavier Nady PIT RF -5 -8 -12
328 Jason Lane HOU CF -11 -2 -12
329 Kory Casto WAS LF -10 -2 -12
330 Rich Aurillia SFN 1B -18 5 -13
331 Carlos Lee HOU LF 10 -23 -13
332 Aaron Miles SLN 2B -10 -4 -13
333 Dave Roberts SFN CF -8 -6 -14
334 Mike Jacobs FLO 1B -11 -2 -14
335 Adam Kennedy SLN 2B -18 4 -14
336 Mark Loretta HOU SS -6 -8 -14
337 Abraham Nunez PHI 3B -18 4 -14
338 Alberto Callaspo ARI 3B -15 1 -15
339 Carlos Quentin ARI RF -17 2 -15
340 Nook Logan WAS CF -13 -2 -15
341 Ramon Martinez LAN 2B -12 -3 -15
342 Chris Burke HOU 2B -12 -3 -15
343 Ryan Freel CIN CF -12 -4 -16
344 Wes Helms PHI 3B -13 -3 -17
345 Andruw Jones ATL CF -9 -9 -18
346 Juan Pierre LAN CF -17 -1 -18
347 Jose Bautista PIT 3B -9 -9 -19
348 Scott Thorman ATL 1B -21 2 -19
349 Robert Fick WAS 1B -17 -4 -21
350 Nomar Garciaparra LAN 1B -17 -5 -22
351 Jose Castillo PIT 3B -18 -5 -23
352 Ray Durham SFN 2B -19 -7 -25
353 Stephen Drew ARI SS -16 -9 -25
354 Bill Hall MIL CF -13 -12 -26
355 Craig Biggio HOU 2B -17 -9 -26
356 Felipe Lopez WAS SS -16 -10 -27

I have no idea how to format this properly, so if someone with keys wants to that would be awesome.
   48. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: June 23, 2008 at 03:34 PM (#2830122)
Whoa, you have Andruw at -9 fielding runs?
   49. flournoy Posted: June 23, 2008 at 03:57 PM (#2830137)
I didn't know Chipper Jones played any shortstop last year, so at least I've learned that much.


It was late in an extra inning game that lasted forever, in which players from both sides (I forget who the other side was) kept dropping like flies. Renteria hurt his ankle, Harris went from left to third, Jones went from third to short, and I guess Diaz went in to play left.
   50. CFBF Is Now "Prince Longbody." Posted: June 23, 2008 at 04:48 PM (#2830165)


It was late in an extra inning game that lasted forever, in which players from both sides (I forget who the other side was) kept dropping like flies. Renteria hurt his ankle, Harris went from left to third, Jones went from third to short, and I guess Diaz went in to play left.


The Astros. The Braves blew a four run lead thanks to a grand slam from Mike Lamb. Ty Wigginton hit a shot at Renteria that pushed him back on his heels and twisted his ankle, knocking him out of the lineup for several weeks. Teixeira hit a homer early in the game, and Diaz hit another off Brad Lidge in the bottom of one of the extra innings to tie it up and keep the game going. Atlanta eventually lost, because that's what they did last year.
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