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Dan needs something like a 1983 Dale Berra (I promise to get my cards out and look for it, Dan!).
I'll get my want list posted and see if anyone can help with the few cards they have. Sure, we can sell them to one another too.
Like my Jason Kubel rookie I bought on ebay for $10 before last season, when he was hot in the International League I sold it for $120 on ebay since only 25 were produced.
I have an entire basement full of a lot of figures, 1989-1995 or so. a basement full.
Roy,
I linked to Kit Young Cards. I can't say he's the cheapest, but he definitely has filled my want lists for early years with quality and promptly.
I have countless 1977 cards - but I bought them in 1977, so they aren't NrMT or anything. It's okay for free though.
I haven't, but it seemed like it should be the next big thing. But when I checked it out, the most valuable card on the whole site appears to be a 2001 Vernon Wells.
Besides Megastars like Barry Bonds and Vernon Wells, they don't seem to be retaining their value, though. Maybe people decided that it's not as fun if you don't actually get to hold the cards.
I haven't done it, but I have consdiered it. I'm too much of a moron, and I like having the cards.
I hand-collected 1981 Topps through 1983 Topps, but came up a few cards short each year- next time I'm at my parents I'll see if I can come up with a wish list. I have tons of commons from those years.
I've done a fair amount of online buying. I've found ebay was really great for starter lots on the cheap, but I'm to the point now where I'm probably 70-85% done with all my sets and need to get down to specifics. I haven't done much lately because I've needed my leisure dollars for other stuff. That's why trading is right up my alley.
I'm not a condition freak. I'm just trying to put together sets that range from EX or EX-MT condition. Maybe even VG-EX on the 71-72 sets. I can take fuzzy corners, but I do try to avoid creases if possible.
I don't have my want lists together, but this gives me a good reason to make that a weekend project sometime soon.
I also am working on the Kellogg's cereal cards from the 70s, although I'm finding them fairly tough to locate.
Did he get fired for totally screwing up Vernon Wells' career numbers?
I have all the ones from 1973-2004.
That is Topps regular series. There are a few strays I need - Like a 78 Ozzie and a 75 Yount.
Also, when they stopped listing a guy's entire career on the back of the card, and limited it to the last five, three or one.
SLUs are virtually worthless today, unfortunately. macfarlane collectibles (esp. the 'variations') are the in-thing among those type of figurines.
Pretty much all my cards I let my brother take over. Like a fool, his sloppiness while moving allowed someone to steal the binder with all the Bonds, McGwire, Boggs, Gwynn, etc rookie cards in them, so I dont know what remains.
Anyway, I do have a precious few cards here at my apartment, mostly 90s Upper Deck IIRC. I need to get rid of them; I havent had the interest in a zillion years and this semester I'll be extra poor. The only card I really want to keep is my 68 Clemente.
Also, when they stopped listing a guy's entire career on the back of the card, and limited it to the last five, three or one.
I didn't even know that they did this. That sucks!
Man, I should've sold my Upper Deck Griffey rookie card years ago.
As long as you aren't picky about condition. And you shouldn't be because I'll just give you the damn things for free.
Same here. And I must have over twelvety thousand Phil Plantier rookie cards.
I liked when Donruss had the puzzle pieces. I remember buying a lot of packs with the money I saved just to finish the Yaz portrait.
Today I got a card I had never seen before.
I've contented myself by making a few small purchases here and there on the 'net -- snagged myself a piece of Bernie Williams' sweaty jersey for a couple bucks, a great bargain even if it's not quite a guitar pick from the budding Hendrix. With autographs and all of these inserts going so cheaply, I've got a bit of a delusion that I can get all the bargains and then maybe turn around and find guys who actually want an Onil Joseph autograph and make myself a bit of cash. If not, I could certainly have more expensive habits.
I sold it for $100 and a bag of weed.
1986- Billy Joe Robideaux, Teddy Higuera, Danny Tartabull, Mark Eichorn, Floyd Youmans (pitched in the independent leagues last year!), Wally Joyner
1987- Corey Snyder, Mike Greenwell, Chris James, Kevin Seitzer, Mike Henneman
1988- Joey Meyer, Walt Weiss, Greg Jeffries, Sam Horn, Jody Reed
1989- Rickey Jordan , Hensly Muellens, Carlos Quintanna, Louis Medina, Milli Vanilli, Jerome Walton, Dwight Smith
And remember how cool the "rated rookies" and "topps future stars" and topps "all-star rookies" and Sportflics were...and the cheezy "Perez-Steele Diamond King' Pictures...Man, those things made Hannah-Barbarra look like Van Gogh...Anyhow, in my mind, the introduction of Upper Deck in 1989 was the begining of the end for the industry (or it least my love of it!).
Just curious,...Do the current Topps "Base" sets include cards for most players...For instance, are there any 2005 Topps Pat Borders cards,...or do you have to be a 16 year old prospect or 50 Home Run Superstar to get cards made these days??? I'm curious.
no, the autos aren't completely worthless.
i actually got back into cards a few years ago collecting reprints and art cards (ie. the diamond kings). however, donruss decided to make their new sets have multiple levels of tough cards...not even the 'parallel' cards, but just to get a base set. they'd make the last 25 or 50 cards of the set short prints...and then they'd throw in 10-25 rookies in a totally different set later in the year, and they'd be super tough to get.
that stopped me from collecting them at all.
Pretty much. They are probably worth something to you, however.
I've heard that the authenticated stuff is often faked too b/c players would just have their agents sign the stuff for them. Really, then, you're just paying for the seal.
Beer tabs. what a waste.
It is just not fun at all anymore; you can almost forget about RC or cards as an investment. Still, I've often thought about getting a bunch of base-level packs, or some particularly well designed cards, just for fun.
Exactly, you're not really paying for the sig or the piece-of-a-jersey, you're paying for the little "3/5" and seal of authenticity.
I actually did a similar thing in the early-mid 1980's. My neighbor bought a "sports celebrity" adress book and we sent out truckloads of SASE's to our favorite players past and present....Off the top of my head, I recall getting several autographs from
Bobby Doerr (accompanied by religious literature)
Lou Boudeau
Nolan Ryan
Albert Hall (my neighbor had a fascination with Hall, who later missed a lot of time due to his Coke Habit)
Yogi Berra (Yoggi was great about this)
I recall that a lot of people suspected that many of the superstars (especially Nolan Ryan and Jose Canseco) used an "autopen" to fulfill request...Players like Doerr proabbly were authentic as they likely received less mail and were probably enthusiastic about receiving the fan mail....
Anyhow, I'lve done some ebay research and non-authenticated autographs demand very little money...In fact, many baseball cards prices will DROP as the result of a "non-authenitcated" autograph "Damaging" the card's condition....
If they were authenticated (I think PSA/DNA has a service) then some of the cards of players that have passed on....Hubbell, Spahn, etc. might command a small amount of money...Likely not much more than the cost of authenticating....
If you are just holding them for sentimental value, but are curious about the authenticity, you could look at past ebay auctions of "authenticated" autographs from those stars, and check if there is any resemblence to your autos at all.
Is this just me? I can't find any info on them.
Does anyone collect baseball books? I have a few books from the fifties and a collection of good baseball books. If they are worth anything, I would send them to someone who collects for the price of shipping.
Anyone read 'Short Season' by Jerry Klinkowitz?
I cant authenticate any of this stuff. Is it completely worthless?
Not worthless, but not ultravaluable either. I collect, though - I'm not an investor. I have a bunch of autographs that come with a story, not a seal.
As I have always collected, I have a ton of the DesertStorm cards. Don't know about the Chipper Jones one though.
I also have the baseball address book - it's put out by Jack Smalling.
I will be publishing a want list here soon enough.
Does anyone have a *good* grading experience to share? BGS or the other guys (not even remembering who they are now)?
From your description of your collection you gave a couple of months ago, I would think it's worth the cost. You could unload those things for a few months rent in Bangor.
If only you'd dumped your Bonds collection before the BALCO stuff dropped...
I'm mostly interested in grading some of the older stuff. I've got Carlton, Ryan, Bench, et al rookies that are in pretty good (though probably not Gem Mint+) shape. I've also got a beautiful Ernie Banks rookie across the top of which one of my "friends" in high school saw fit to write his name. In blue ink.
I found that baseball players are reasonably good signers through the mail, especially retired players and younger players. I had some pretty good luck with star players at times, but Bruce Dal Canton was a surer bet to show up in your mailbox than Sammy Sosa (who I did get in '96 after writing him in Arizona during Spring Training).
Of all the sports, golfers are the best signers by far. This is true both in person and through the mail. I got some true legends (Palmer, Nelson, and Sarazen to name but three).
Of course you can never be sure anything is authentic unless you see it signed in person, but a trained eye can usually spot autopens, ghost signers, and stamps. I probably had to throw out 50 autographs that I knew were not authentic, including some I desperately wished were real (Aaron, Nicklaus, T. Watson, and T. Bradshaw come to mind).
It was a lot of fun now that I'm thinking about it. It was a blast to open the mailbox and have four or five of my SASEs in there. Sort of like Christmas several times a week.
A lot of it is commons, with some Mattinglys, Ryans, Griffeys, etc. The Mattingly I got for 27 Mel Halls. Yeah, twenty-seven.
Hey, the Frank Thomas rookie!
And yes, the binders are sitting in the next room over. I have no motivation to organize them.
of course, i'm still trying to recover from my discovery about 10 days ago that a certain omar vizquel memorabilia card (i.e. one with a bit of uniform or bat) from '04 lists for, oh, maybe $8, whereas the comparable card for miguel tejada isn't listed, tejada being, y'know, a mere "semistar." riiiiight -- who *wouldn't* take vizquel over tejada any day of the week?
I've always found it more funny we had 27 Mel Halls... and knew where they all were...
I wonder if anyone has tried to corner the market on a specific card.
Which one is more valuable?
as a diehard aba fan, though, i'm probably happiest with the autograph i got from dr j while he was a 2nd-year virginia squire.
those were the days ...
I wonder if anyone has tried to corner the market on a specific card.
I don't know about reality, but there is a Rocky & Bullwinkle where Boris tries to buy up all the the least valuable card and destroy all but one, therefore making it the most valuable, so that he could sell it and gives the funds to Fearless Leader
Rocky and Bullwinkle isn't real?
cal -- $50. billy -- $20.
At the very first card show I ever went to, in Memphis in about 1979, I bought an Ernie Banks rookie card for twenty-five cents. It's only in good or very good condition, but it's still the best investment I've ever made.
There was a Mickey Mantle rookie card there, too, for five bucks, but that was too rich for my junior-high blood.
you probably did all right by the boggs card, at least. the first time i ever looked in a beckett, boggs' rookie (the only decent thing in the box of '83 packs i'd bought from a price club back when they were new, only to forget about them for more than a decade) was going for something like $40. now it's a whopping $12. whether his sterling showing in the hof sweepstakes will contribute to reversing that trend, who knows?
I mentioned 1993 Topps Finest earlier. Each "regular" card had a different version called a "refractor". The refractors were produced in pretty low numbers.
I heard that Andre Dawson was buying up all of his refractor cards from that set, and sure enough the price went up in beckett. I have no idea if this is still the case.
Back in the day (1986), I bought one pack of Fleer basketball cards (the only time I ever in my life bought NBA cards).
Michael Jordan 'rookie' card.
Sold it about ten years later for $500.
*THAT'S* nice ROI :)
(Got a Ewing rookie in the same pack, but I doubt it's worth much)
Actually, I traded an LT rookie for it, plus $10 back at a flea market.
I am positive I sold it for 3 figures my freshman year in college.
If you can't remember, that's a good indicator of what you spent the money on :)
around $30 mint, actually.
Probably less than my Pedro and RJ rookies. None of them are probably worth that much.
Dan, are you serious? If so, how do I get one to you? I am sitting here with my 1986 Topps extras and have three Marty Bystroms. Fairly good condition.
I have 9 Billy Samples from that year. Good grief. I have so many baseball cards....
Anyway, the trivia fact on the back of Bystrom's card is:
The latest inning in which a home run was hit in Yankees history was the 22nd inning by Jack Reed, June 24, 1962.
cal -- $50. billy -- $20.
Man. Only $50 for a Cal Ripken rookie? I guess I should start increasing my contributions into the 401(k).
I don't think I have ever seen a grown man happier.
I've got them all in my basement and don't mind browsing through them, so if I can help anyone complete a set I'd be more than happy to do it.
I believe there was a Tiger Woods card that was going for above 1000k. Some dude had like 10 of those issues. he cleaned up.
True story.
I need to find the Beckett I bought in the summer. I just wanted to be depressed at the price Griffey and Thomas are going for now. I paid 30 for Griffey and 40 for Thomas in 93. They're probably close to that once again. I also have Sammy's Leaf RC (it was in the one pack I bought of them before the price of the set went crazy.) In 98 I looked for it and found... a Coke stain on it. Must've been from when I was sorting my cards alphabetically in 93 and spilled Coke around a bunch of them. Oops!
My best pulls. I got a Larry Johnson signed card of some draft pick set. I traded it for a box of something. I also bought one pack of 93 Score Select Update for $14 and pulled the Nolan Ryan card that's like one in 350 packs. It's one of those ones with that neat refractive effect. I forget what it's called. I also got a Michael Jordan in 92-93 Topps Gold.
The only shoebox finds were an O-Pee-Chee Sandberg rookie and Ron Francis and Dalw Hawerchuk rookies. My dad's shoebox was lame. Why didn't he buy cards earlier than 1982?
I mailed off cards with SASE to Travis Fryman, John Olerud, Andre Dawson and fellow Peoria native Jim Thome. Only Dawson returned my cards, but they were signed which was cool. Also he gave away autographs in exchange for a donation to fight Sickle Cell anemia.
I don't think companies now are being greedy. They produce such limited runs of everything. I think they're just catering to the high dollar collectors. The set with the best rookie cards are ridiculously overpriced, and they're short printed anyway. The average person has no chance of getting one. It's as if they're trying to pump up the collectabilty of their product and are shutting out most people in the process. Griffey's Upper Deck rookie was hot as hell, yet anyone could get one. They think that they can recreate that buzz by making things obscenely rare, and they dwindled down their market to the people who want that and are willing to overpay for it. It's elitism, not greed.
I also forgot a Gretzky card in Upper Deck SPX in my list of pulls. That set was like 10 dollars for three cards, and the Gretzky insert was like 1:300. I have good luck with ridiculously overpriced packs.
Sounds mostly like people are talking older stuff here but I have some cards that fans other teams might find interesting that I really don't.
not too much, no, but operating under the theory (unlikely, i know) that they were in mint condition, you were essentially ripping up a tenner & two singles with every card ...
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