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June 26, 2003

Ah, the joys of tabletop baseball. Of course, no one plays tabletop baseball much anymore. It’s all on computers. And that saddens me just this much.

In 1988, I was drinking my way through chemistry graduate school at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville. One day I was leaving the chemistry building, Buehler Hall, around noon because I had to get down to The Last Lap (as featured in Sports Illustrated) for some critical pinball (The Comet) with my brother, Steve, and I bumped into some guy coming into the building.

He happened to be wearing an Atlanta Braves ballcap with "Oscar Mayer" on the underside of the bill. Because I’m a mouthy, nosy so-and-so, I said, "Hey, I was at that game!" and of course, I had been and I could prove it by producing the same goober ballcap. So we started talking about the game and it turned out we were at the game for the same reason – to see the Mets kick the crap out of the Braves (which did occur). He, too, was a huge Mets fan.

A couple of pitchers of beer later, we’re back at his place. Now, I’m not easy, but when a young fellow is a Mets fan and wants to teach me a new game involving baseball, I can be had pretty cheaply. So there we were selecting our players from the 1986 Strat-o-matic Baseball Game cards. That is correct – I had made it to 23 years old and collected baseball cards my entire life, and yet had never stumbled across Strat-o-matic. I had once played a similar football game called "Paydirt", but never Strat.

We played Strat non-stop. We would watch the Cubs and Mets and Braves on the then-flourishing Superstations (stupid cable systems), scoring those games while we scored our own. New to the game, I didn’t "get" counting the cards right out of the gate, and we simply drafted and played the players we knew and loved. Then we got the 1987 set and so on. Before long, I had developed the standard, but magical, system of counting cards and ranking players. We would roll the three dice, clackity-clack, into the dark hours, cooking Kroger pizzas in the oven and filling up scoresheets on end. It was really from this that I developed my own scoresheet in Excel and the use of a red pen and squiggles to indicate player changes. This pretty much went on for four years until he got a job with the Atlanta Braves – in May of 1991 - and moved away (sniff).

Of course, over that four years, I left graduate school degree-less (hey, I finished the classwork!), and lost a girlfriend, but I learned a great deal about baseball. Dave Magadan’s 1990 card was just dreamy.

Then came the computers. As an employee, my friend got comp seats at the Braves, so I drove to Atlanta from Knoxville quite a bit that 1991 season, and we would play Strat all hours of the night, pausing only to go to the stadium. But I missed the clackity-clack of the dice.

Fortunately, Strat-o-matic felt my pain and heard my pleas sifting through the ether. You could select the "dice and sounds" on the computer to soothe the lonesome beast that dwelled within. Ah, the warmth of three dice tumbling onto a hard wood, but nicely lacquered, tabletop. Three, ten. Another Matt Williams home run.

Strat is a great game and teaches us tons about baseball, and even more about who is really good and who do we just think is good. When I find the box on a neglected shelf in a KAY_BEE TOYS, on sale for $12, I buy it and put it in my closet. It’s usually a couple of years old, but it has the actual cards – oh, how I love the actual cards…

Now I play in a Diamond Mind Baseball League (DMB). Dan Szymborski swears by it for realism – which is fine, but there are no dice to pop up on the screen, no clackity-clack. And evidently, you can't "undo", which is a crying shame.

I do enjoy DMB and I have gotten some good tips from Vinay Kumar, but I prefer an edge – I want to know a player’s "card". I love the reverse platoon split. I want to know just how ugly a player out of position hurts you. These are small things, but I want to have the option of knowing.

If you play DMB or Strat, or some other table top (APBA?), do yourself a favor – get the box out, thumb through the cards and roll the dice on your desk top. Drift away as you close your eyes and feel your mind project each play on the inside of your eyelids. Watch Eric Davis slap his glove on his thigh as the dice come up: Five, five: Fb B – (cf).

The Week

Barry Bonds opened the 500-500 Club. Pretty unusual combination.

I only got to score three games in the last seven days, and one of them was the godawful performance of Armando Benitez against the Yankees on Sunday night. That was one torturous 9th inning. The 11th wasn’t particularly entertaining either.

The Tigers, of whom only RMc is a living fan, have reached the depths of the 1962 New York Mets. As with any projections, please don’t try this at home: 0.237*162=38. Seriously? 40-122? Imagine – Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens 300th, and the worst record in a hundred years? This game is FANtastic! (Do I owe the NBA a dollar? I know they need it after that Championship Series.)

Just because it isn’t written about everywhere enough: I like Greg Maddux and he’s a great pitcher, but when Javy Lopez is single-handedly winning games, not having him catch – well, you get what you deserve.

Chris Dial Posted: June 26, 2003 at 01:00 AM | 14 comment(s)
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   1. The definitely immoral Eric Enders Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611880)
Of course, no one plays tabletop baseball much anymore. It’s all on computers. And that saddens me just this much.

Hey, I still play the real thing. A computer could never replace the actual roll of the dice! (Plus it gives me an opportunity to use my loaded dice.)
   2. jeff angus Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611882)
Of course, no one plays tabletop baseball much anymore. It’s all on computers. And that saddens me just this much.

Agree totally. Even if you don't, like Eric, use loaded dice, there's no doubt in my mind that the thrower of the die has some tiny, significant effect on the outcome, even on a passionate, off-the-backboard spinning throw. My chief nemesis, Lindy, used to regularly throw the only "homer" slot his team's banjo-hitting ss w/a 3 - 11, and then hit the Commander Cody tape on the deck and dance a wild cabalistic tarantella around the living room when he did.
That wouldn't have happened on a bloodless computer sim.
More importantly, the players don't internalize the granular decision tables and odds. Like agrarian villages recently converted from hunter/gatherer tribes, when they gain written language, they lose oral mastery of tales and legends and history, because they don't need that kind of memory when they have stored intrinsics from which to draw.
I like DMBB fine; I just wish they had a table-top version.
   3. Repoz Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611883)
Chris....Great stuff as usual. I was involved in a Strat-O-Mat-O league (70-73?) where some very "away" games took place in a member's basement that was made up to look like Shea...he had dugouts and crowd faces painted on his walls...a couple of old Polo Ground seats...he would have tickets made up and collect them at his turnstile/gate...the floor was turfed...etc..etc. Wonderful times.

I believe he is still a Strat-O-Matic league president...Bellevue branch.
   4. Dingbat Charlie Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611884)
I remember Sam Horn's card from the 1993 season. Vicious splits vs RHP. My team won our dormitory floor's league, and he was a big part of it. I can still name every player on that team. Frohwirth..Alomar..Devon White.... ah the memories.
   5. Dingbat Charlie Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611885)
er, that was Horn's 1991 season. I'll hush now.
   6. Softball-Playing Human Refuses to Be Walked Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611890)
Greatest Strato moment ever: bottom of the ninth, two outs, losing 7-2. Single, walk, single, single, walk, and Jim Edmonds ends it with a grand slam off Todd Burns on a diamond shot to 2. I danced for days. Second greatest moment: down by a jillion runs, I had Terry Puhl steal second, third and home twice in one game. Totally worth the loss.

I loved my old Strat leagues, where we were required to give every player a nickname. Ramon Martinez was renamed Ramen Maruchan, after the cardboard box of a home park that formerly held my instant lunches. Bob Ojeda became Bob O' Jedi, became Bob "The Force" Ojeda, became Bob "Magnum Force" Ojeda, became Dirty Bob Ojeda. GOD, those were fun.

I had to stop playing Strato for my own good, but if there's a desktop league in or around Long Beach/Cerritos in Southern California who needs a player, you just might want to drop me a line....
   7. tangotiger Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611893)
My first table-top game was Extra Innings, for the 1979 season. I was 12. And there were no cards, but "sheets". Basically, a printout of all players, by team, with their codes to hit(hr.3b.3b.1b), their speed, and arm strength. I don't think walks was in there for the hitter, but I don't remember. He might have had one. There was extra stuff about taking the extra base, lefty/righty (including steals against lefty/righty), suicide squeezes. Really, everything was there, and the game designer (Kavanaugh I think) gave you all the equations for you to recreate past and future teams.

Anyway, there was this guy from the A's or Pirates, Matt Alexander I think, and he was a .500 hitter (for like 50 AB), but we didn't put limits on playing time, and he was the guy on my team. I kept winning, and my bro was pissed.

I "graduated" to Replay Games (sucked), then I tried Strat. I went back to EI. Its simplicity was brilliant.
   8. Ephus Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611895)
My method of thinking about catchers and outfielders' arms are deeply influenced by Strat-O-Matic. In my estimation, Bernie Williams has, during the course of his career, moved from a -1 arm to a +3 (and is threatening to be a +4). Mike Piazza has been a consistent + arm during his career, and is probably a +4 at this point. Ichiro!, on the other hand, is -5.

Anyone have insight on the method by which the arm ratings are determined. It seems to me that it is a great 11 point scale by which to measure arms, and would actually add to broadcasts if mentioned.
   9. Depot Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611898)
Didn't Sickels write an article recently too? You obviously got the idea of writing an "article" from him.
   10. Ned Garvin: Male Prostitute Posted: June 25, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611899)
As was mentioned earlier, my favorite part of playing Pursue the Pennant was(is) the personalities and reputations some guys have gotten over the years. Hands down, the greatest PTP player ever (using 1987-89 cards) is '87 Dion James. He is truly revered. '88 Pascual Perez is probably the best starting pitcher of those 3 years (note: 2nd best is '87 Pascual Perez), but he is extremely mediocre. And the 1987 Benito Santiago and Will Clark and '88 Carney Lansford are well-known automatic outs. How they consistently suck so much, I have no idea, but they always have.
   11. rich Posted: June 26, 2003 at 10:22 PM (#611907)
I've just started playing 2001 with Seattle. Took one look at the Jason Giambi card and realised why he got the MVP. He won opening day on his own, and we're certainly not looking forward to facing him down the stretch.
   12. Obo Posted: June 29, 2003 at 10:23 PM (#611949)
Early eighties, I was just starting high school and didn't know much of anything about baseball - the only sport that interested me was hockey. One day I was over at a friend's house and he showed me his strat-o-matic set, explained the rules, and we played a few games. Turned out he had a few duplicat cards, so he let me take them home, where I improvised a league using one card per team. There were four teams, of which I remember the Butch Hobsons and the Alan Trammells.

I didn't know how to calculate baseball stats, so I grabbed a program from a Jays game my father had attended and flipped around til I found a glossary. I remember the disappointment I felt when reading the definition for batting average for the first time. "That's it?" Looked around a bit more and found some metrics that sounded better, so I used them. Swear to god: my first ever baseball dice league tracked on-base average and slugging percentage and omitted batting average. In the end though, I went back to batting average only for two reasons: first, my more baseball-savvy friends were telling me I was being an idiot, and second, I found I had no idea what the stats meant. I'd figure out that the Alan Trammells, say, were slugging 450 and I'd have no idea if that was good or bad - the local papers carried batting average only.

So close, so early. I returned to conventional triple-crown stats for a few years until Bill James began opening my eyes in 1986.
   13. Brad Harris Posted: June 29, 2003 at 10:23 PM (#611951)
The designers/owners of both DMB (Tippett) and Dynasty League (Cieslinski) used to work on the PtP staff. If I'm not mistaken Tippett actually bought out PtP and changed the name while Cieslinski simply started his own game from scratch.
   14. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2003 at 10:23 PM (#611961)
Recently started playing Replay Baseball, after only going computer (DMB) for like 10 years. It's so nice to get away from the computer screen, which I have to stare at all day at work anyway.

Replay has pitcher-batter interaction on every play, which from a modelling standpoint has to put it ahead of the other so-called 50/50 games. I, too, recommend people to take a look at the website at www.replaybb.com.
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