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Sunday, January 20, 2008

The 2007 Calphalon Awards – Outfielders

The outfield always has some real doozies for defensive numbers.  The Green Monster epitomizes a park effect for outfielder defensive ratings.  However, any park with a high wall will affect outfielder ratings.  This will include the Marlins left field, the Baltimore right field and the Crawford boxes in Houston.  Remember that when you see a really poor number for a fielder on those fields.

These ratings do not include anything for “holds” or throwing runners out.  I do calculate those, but it is tricky – it’s hard to normalize for a play like that.

Left Field

It’s not easy to move beyond average without being a really good, or bad, fielder.  For the AL left field, there is just one good fielder above +7 DRS.  There are just three below –7 DRS.  And one is Manny Ramirez, who is twisted into a –30 DRS here, but we’ve seen other research indicate the Monster’s effect would lower that to about –17 DRS.  Hideki Matsui of the Yankees posted a –8 DRS.  The Cast Iron Skillet goes to Seattle’s Raul Ibanez at –23 DRS. 

In the National League, the NL puts their DHs in LF, so we can get some idea of what would happen if the AL didn’t have a DH, or if those DHs had to play in the field.  We see more hitters giving the business to their teams in the outfield.  Carlos Lee is a butcher.  He posted the worst mark at –23 DRS.  I am certain some of that is Crawford boxes, but even giving him a Manny-like improvement, he’s probably still the worst.  Also stinking up left field was Pat Burrell at –11 DRS, and a three-way tie for third at –9 DRS with Florida’s Josh Willingham, Barry Bonds and Moises Alou.  Willingham has some park effect, but he isn’t good.  Bonds and Alou are old and have leg injuries.  They might both need to DH from here on in.

Center Field

Ichiro Suzuki moved to center field, and did not do as well as many would hope.  Even in the Plus/Minus system, Ichiro was only +4 in 1339.3 innings.  He rated a bit worse in LWZR marks with –7 DRS.  That wasn’t good, but it wasn’t Gary Matthews, Jr.  Matthews posted a –11 DRS.  Normally, I would award him the hardware, but there was someone or something worse.  That was the character known as “Tampa Bay Centerfielder”.  I mean, goodness.  You may be saying, I thought Rocko Baldelli was a decent fielder.  He is, but he didn’t play very much CF for the Rays in 2007.  BJ Upton, Delmon Young and Elijah Dukes, three troubled Durham Bulls teammates combined for 1242 innings, and a remarkably poor –16 DRS.  This Rays three-headed monster was about as good as the other Bulls three-headed monster, Will Perdue, Luc Longley and Bill Wennington, would have been.  Upton/Dukes/Young can share the award.  Delmon can call Dmitri and they can congratulate each other.

The National League wasn’t as entertaining.  Willy Taveras roaming the Colorado outfield posted a poor –10 DRS, but was “beaten out” by an infielder moved to center field, the Brewers’ Bill Hall.  The Brewers might consider moving Hall back to the infield.  That whole team couldn’t catch this season.  These were the only two CFs that poked their head more than six runs below average.

Right Field

It was mentioned this week that the Twins were considering Michael Cuddyer as a center field candidate to replace Torii Hunter.  I’m certain Aaron Gleeman got a migraine over that one.  Cuddyer stunk up right field for the Twins in 2007, despite throwing the ball really well.  It could be that he plays so shallow to throw these runners out or hold them to singles, while sacrificing base hits over his head.  Maybe that works out for him.  Cuddyer posted a –13 DRS for the Twins.  The worst right fielder was Jose Guillen for the Mariners with a –20 DRS.  And he wasn’t throwing out runners like Cuddyer.

So looking at that, Ibanez, Suxuki and Guillen were all quite poor in LWZR rankings.  Whenever that happens I have to consider that there’s a possible issue with Safeco or the way these players were scored or some other factor.  It’s just hard to get that poor of a collection of outfielders at once.  It’s possible there’s something else at work here *coughagecough*, but it’s also possible they aren’t good outfielders.  Guillen was fine in 2006, so the roof or background may be an issue.  It warrants more research.

Ken Griffey had posted some of the worst seasons of defense in center the last couple of years, so moving him to right field may help.  It did.  Griffey was just a –3 DRS with six other right fielders - essentially average.  This season, though, nearly everyone was about average.  Right Field was played in Lake Wobegon.  The lowest RF was Xavier Nady of the Pirates at –4 DRS, albeit in just 750 IP.

Outfield Summary:
Calphalon Awards
:

Pos   AL       NL
LF  Ibanez   Lee
CF  DRays   Hall
RF  Guillen  Nady

Chris Dial Posted: January 20, 2008 at 08:35 PM | 22 comment(s)
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   1. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 20, 2008 at 11:33 PM (#2672659)
Willingham at -9 seems like a moral victory for a lumbering catcher that nobody thinks actually belongs out there.

Upton seems to always be getting unfairly lumped in with Dukes and Young. His minimal involvement in that USA Today article was completely blown out of proportion and he didn't really say anything wrong. Likewise, while he did struggle at times learning the position this year, it was Dukes and Young that did most of the damage. Upton had 100 more innings than those two combined and posted a -4 compared to their combined -11. Per 150 games he was at -9, lousy but nothing compared to the -24 (Dukes) and -30 (Young) damage that the others put up.
   2. pancakehead Posted: January 20, 2008 at 11:41 PM (#2672661)
How did Jim Edmonds not win the worst CF award?
   3. Ivan Grushenko of HK in St Louis Posted: January 21, 2008 at 12:17 AM (#2672679)
Suxuki

Ichiro may have lost a step but this seems a bit harsh.
   4. Tricky Dick Posted: January 21, 2008 at 12:58 PM (#2672853)
It surprises me that Willy Taveras comes up so badly in CF. I thought Dewan considered him one of the best centerfielders. How does he compare on +/- for 2007?

I'm also surprised that Carlos Lee beat out Adam Dunn for worst in leftfield. Lee is better than Dunn on both RZR and OOZ, according to Hardball Times. My recollection is that PMR also shows Lee substantially better than Dunn. Where does Dunn score on your system? Any chance that the Crawford Box effect would make up for that difference?
   5. Mike Green Posted: January 21, 2008 at 01:12 PM (#2672871)
I suspect that the Fenway adjustment is probably a bit too large. I would be surprised if Ramirez is a better outfielder than Ibanez, but that is picking nits. All of these ratings are "in the zone", which is about all you can ask for when it comes to defence.
   6. Mirabelli fan No.1 Posted: January 21, 2008 at 01:48 PM (#2672915)
Ichiro is still a better outfielder than 74 percent of all outfielders. Don't be too harsh on the greatest Japanese player ever.
   7. Cheap Seats Posted: January 21, 2008 at 02:06 PM (#2672935)
Ichiro is still a better outfielder than 74 percent of all outfielders. Don't be too harsh on the greatest Japanese player ever.


Sadaharu Oh says Hi.
   8. Chris Dial Posted: January 21, 2008 at 02:46 PM (#2672975)
Dunn was a -5 DRS with Wily Mo and Chris Duncan. That was the next group behind Bonds/Alou/Willingham.

No, the Crawford Boxes won't make up for Lee's other suckitude.
   9. Chris Dial Posted: January 21, 2008 at 02:48 PM (#2672979)
Mike,
I think it depends. If the Red Sox have a good pitching staff, there are fewer balls off the wall (as a rate), and it improves the Wall score. Establishing the park effect will take more data.
   10. Hungry Hungry Hipolito Pichardo Posted: January 21, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2673002)
The Brewers might consider moving Hall back to the infield.


Prophetic.
   11. Mirabelli fan No.1 Posted: January 21, 2008 at 03:58 PM (#2673029)
Sadaharu Oh never played against MLB level talent, which makes me believe that Ichiro, who is making a case for being one of the best pure hitters ever, is the best Japanese player.
   12. Scientist guy Posted: January 21, 2008 at 04:49 PM (#2673069)
There does seem to be something funny going on in Seattle.

I'm not super familiar with how zone ratings work but could it be something with the way the zones are set up in Seattle like at the infield/outfield interface. If that's the case, Seattle infielders would look better at the expense of the outfielders (depending on how many chances we're talking about). Wonder whether this has something to do with Safeco's extreme pitcher friendliness. Maybe you just get a lot more bloop singles or maybe more doubles/triples as fielders try to guard against the bloop single...

Is there any way to look at road numbers for a comparison?
   13. Chris Dial Posted: January 21, 2008 at 05:41 PM (#2673126)
could it be something with the way the zones are set up in Seattle like at the infield/outfield interface.

No, they don't work that way.

Is there any way to look at road numbers for a comparison?

There is, but I don't have it.
   14. Cris E Posted: January 21, 2008 at 06:06 PM (#2673161)
I think the right field baggie in the Metrodome has never been given the credit it is due by park factors. It's only 327 down the line and that wall is 23' tall, but since it's a soft sack balls off it tend to drop straight to the warning track instead of riccochet about like Fenway. That turns fly-outs into singles instead of extra base hits, which is better than Fenway but still not an out. In the past runners like Shannon Stewart and Luis Castillo were shown to be bad base runners based on their numbers when tagging up from third, and Twins RF always seem to have monster arms according to the defensive numbers. I think both of those are influenced by the short field that most people play in the Dome.


Oh, and Cuddyer in CF sounds like Gardy messing around on long bus trips to Worthington, MN. There's no way it happens in a world where Tom Kelly stills draws breath.
   15. wafflebrain Posted: January 21, 2008 at 06:14 PM (#2673175)
So you ignorant little geeks thought you could get rid of me eh? Well I return. It is I, the magnificant PANCAKEHEAD!!! I have a variety of breakfeast oriented names at my disposal, so I can spread truth and justice to you stupid no-nothings. You can never defeat me.
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   16. Bob Dernier Ressort Posted: January 21, 2008 at 06:24 PM (#2673193)
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   17. Frisco Cali Posted: January 22, 2008 at 05:27 AM (#2673564)
Countdown to some great insight from new poster "eggs-over-easy"...10, 9, 8

I have a hard time believing that both Guillen and Suzuki (Suxuki? was that on porpoise?) stunk. There must be some translation thing that I am in no way qualified to discover or offer an opinion on.
   18. RollingWave Posted: January 23, 2008 at 02:27 AM (#2674481)
Sadaharu Oh says Hi
Oh was also tactically Chinese .

His father was a Chinese immigrant anyway, and he has a ROC passport (of course, the ROC is now in Taiwan instead of China. history stuff anyway :P )
   19. RollingWave Posted: January 23, 2008 at 02:27 AM (#2674482)
another thing, Oh in Chinese = Wang ;)
   20. chemdoc Posted: January 23, 2008 at 02:41 PM (#2674780)
Sadaharu Oh says Hi


Oh was also tactically Chinese .


I don't think so. The Chinese regard a wall as an insurmountable barrier.
   21. SG in ATL Posted: January 23, 2008 at 02:42 PM (#2674781)
Is there any way to look at road numbers for a comparison?


Home   Pos  INN  Ch   PM   ZR   Diff RS
Beltre
Adrian  3B   694  216  165  .764 1 1
Btncrt
Ynisky  SS   658  216  171  .792 -7   -5
Guillen
Jose   RF   669  170  129  .759 -18  -15
Ibanez
Raul LF   583  157  116  .739 -19  -16
Lopez
Jose  2B   657  250  216  .864 10   8
Sexson
Richie  1B   536  101  75   .743 -9   -7
Suzuki
Ichiro  CF   711  256  222  .867 -4   -3
  
Road   Pos  INN  Ch   PM   ZR   Diff RS
Beltre
Adrian  3B   585.1   186  143  .769 0 0
Btncrt
Ynisky  SS   644.1   273  221  .810 -3   -2
Guillen
Jose   RF   604.2   147  122  .830 -5   -4
Ibanez
Raul LF   531.1   127  100  .787 -11  -9
Lopez
Jose  2B   574.1   222  180  .811 -3   -2
Sexson
Richie  1B   455.2   100  79   .790 -5   -4
Suzuki
Ichiro  CF   628.1   218  189  .867 -5   -4

Player ZR Ratio  
Beltre
Adrian  99.4%
BtncrtYnisky  97.8%
GuillenJose   91.4%
IbanezRaul 93.8%
LopezJose  106.6%
SexsonRichie  94.0%
SuzukiIchiro  100.0%


ZR Ratio is home zone rating divide by road zone rating. A percentage greater than 100 means the player was a better defender at home.
   22. Scientist guy Posted: January 23, 2008 at 06:44 PM (#2674962)
Interesting.

So I just normalized the numbers to 650 innings for the players and these are Home/Away splits

Chances Plays Made ZR
Overall 1359.7/1415.5 1085.7/1147.7 0.798/0.811
Outfield 574.3/539.2 457.6/449.2 0.797/0.833
Infield 785.6/876.3 628.12/698.5 0.800/0.797

Although there were more total balls deemed catchable away than at home, this was all in the infield.

The outfield trend is the opposite - more chances in Safeco, so it could be more catchable flyballs in Safeco or something with the zones.

The infield ZR are identical home and away so it seems like there really were more groundballs of roughly the same distribution home and away.

For the outfield numbers, the number of plays made is pretty close (<2%) but the number of chances assessed differs by 6.5%

So it looks like the ZR split comes from the number of chances assessed more than anything else - some of which are not as catchable as the average fly ball on the road, either for some real reason associated with Safeco (lighting, shadows) or for some bias in the zones.

This is all very interesting. I wonder if biases could be reduced by some sort of defensive park factor adjustment - make zone ratings relative to what the average fielder does in a position...
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