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Friday, October 07, 2005

AL West Champion Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim at AL East Champion New York Yankees - 8:19 PM ESPN

Series tied 1-1

LAA: Byrd (0-0, 0.00)
NYY: Johnson (0-0, 0.00)

Rain, rain stay away!

After a lackluster start, Randy Johnson has been a beast down the stretch. In six September starts, Johnson was 4-0 with an ERA of 2.48 and a 31/11 K/BB ratio in 36.1 innings.

The Johnson start means that the Yankees that Bad Flash Flaherty replaces Posada in the lineup. What’s that mean? It means this: .097/.147/.178. That’s not Flaherty’s line, but the difference between his less-than-sterling .165/.206/.252 and Posada’s .262/.352/.430.

For the Angels, the question is which Paul Byrd will show up - the Byrd from his last two starts: 0-1, 6.10 ERA or the Byrd from the four starts before that 3-1 0.68.

Rain is in the forecast.

Sean McNally Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:33 AM | 440 comment(s)
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1. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: October 07, 2005 at 09:55 AM (#1668444)

Very good chance this doesn't get played tonight, and a good chance it doesn't get played tomorrow, either. NYC expecting 3-5" of rain.

This is terrible news for NYY, since it allows Anaheim to run Lackey and Colon out twice in a 5 gamer.

2. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: October 07, 2005 at 09:56 AM (#1668447)

One more thing: this post is SECOND, like the Red Sox in the AL East.

3. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: October 07, 2005 at 10:11 AM (#1668466)

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/d12_fill.gif

Shows the bad news weatherwise.

4. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: October 07, 2005 at 11:06 AM (#1668533)

For the Angels, the question is which Paul Byrd will show up - the Byrd from his last two starts: 0-1, 6.10 ERA or the Byrd from the four starts before that 3-1 0.68.

To be fair, his last start of the season was the game after the Angels clinched, so I think - hung over, lacking focus, just looking to get his work in and prepare for the playoffs - you can throw that one out.

5. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 11:09 AM (#1668541)

One more thing: this post is SECOND, like the Red Sox in the AL East.

Now who's being silly about this?

6. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 11:15 AM (#1668558)

Given the possibility of two rain outs, it will be interesting to see how Scocia plays it. Persumably he would leap at the chance to start Colon and Lackey in 3 and 4, espcially given Colon has pitched better on the road this season (his ten runs to two starts at the Stadium notwithstanding). On the other hand, if you work on the asumption they can't sweep at Yankee Stadium (possible but by no means a given) than you have Paul Byrd pitching a potential Game 5 aganist a well-rested Mussina

7. Ivan Grushenko of HK in Tokyo Posted: October 07, 2005 at 11:46 AM (#1668646)

On the other hand, if you work on the asumption they can't sweep at Yankee Stadium

Are you saying the Angels should start a lousy pitcher at Yankee Stadium because they'd lose at least one game no matter who they started?

8. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 12:25 PM (#1668736)

Are you saying the Angels should start a lousy pitcher at Yankee Stadium because they'd lose at least one game no matter who they started?

No, of course not. I'm just saying that while the rain delay is mostly in the Angels' favor at this point, if the series reaches Game 5, it might bite them in the butt.

9. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2005 at 12:43 PM (#1668772)

torre was quoted as saying he's probably going to play sierra at DH tonight.

10. Jeffo Posted: October 07, 2005 at 12:44 PM (#1668775)

Well if history is any guide, they won't cancel the game until after FOX's pre-game show, like they did in the ALCS last year. I felt bad for those poor fans then. Tonight those poor fans are me (among others of course). Any word on what time the games would be if tonight is washed out? I imagine Sunday's game would be a early day game with the travel, or is it all in FOX's hands?

11. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2005 at 12:49 PM (#1668792)

Jeffo, if the game gets postponed, do we use our ticket stubs for tomm, or do they re-issue us tickets at will call?

12. Jeffo Posted: October 07, 2005 at 12:58 PM (#1668817)

The New York Times said that tonight's tickets (Home Game 1) would be used for tomorrow's game if there is a rainout, with Home Game 2 being used Sunday (not sure when on Sunday, but Sunday).

13. Jeffo Posted: October 07, 2005 at 12:59 PM (#1668820)

Oh and I'm pretending I never saw #9.

14. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 01:13 PM (#1668852)

This is why the Yankees need a dome.

15. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2005 at 01:29 PM (#1668892)

if everyone knew this rain was coming, why didn't torre try and squeeze Randy in for game 2? I realize the point is moot b/c Wang pitched great, but still. A manager thinking ahead like that would be of value.

16. Fat Al Posted: October 07, 2005 at 01:39 PM (#1668921)

torre was quoted as saying he's probably going to play sierra at DH tonight.

Um, why?

17. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:09 PM (#1669040)

Um, why?

Isn't it obvious????

"I'm not discounting [Posada as a DH]," Torre said on a conference call Thursday. "But we'll look and decide what our options are against [Angels starter Paul] Byrd and go from there. Right now, the first five guys will stay the same and then we'll arrange it from there on out. I'm not saying [Posada] won't be the DH, but I think it's doubtful."

Sierra is likely, Torre said, "because he's probably the most adept at it. He's had the most experience. You know, he loves the pressure and all that. He certainly would be a consideration. I think he would be the first consideration, and then you work out and match them up from there.

"But again, we want to get [Sierra] involved because we know what he can bring to the table, especially being a switch-hitter, and they don't have a left-hander coming out of the bullpen. The fact that Ruben has been down this road before, he would probably be the No. 1 guy we would look at."

18. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:15 PM (#1669060)

On the plus side, Ruben's bat speed is probably exactly right for Byrd's fastball

19. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:19 PM (#1669073)

"This is terrible news for NYY, since it allows Anaheim to run Lackey and Colon out twice in a 5 gamer."

I'm fully expect the Yanks to just continue to beat the #### out of Colon, it's Lackey that worries me. I can't really remember how I feel about Washburn, so I don't know how I feel about this.

20. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:43 PM (#1669146)

"But again, we want to get [Sierra] involved because we know what he can bring to the table, especially being a switch-hitter

Yeah, because we know that Posada doesn't switch hit.

21. Fat Al Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:51 PM (#1669159)

It's like Torre doesn't watch the games. Ruben has looked completely lost at the plate this season, and it's been getting worse. He has a .265 OBP and 4 homers in 170 AB.

Putting him and Flaherty in the same starting lineup is insane.

22. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:54 PM (#1669168)

"The fact that Ruben has been down this road before, he would probably be the No. 1 guy we would look at.""

And Posada has never played in the playoffs before either.

Just admit it Joe, you and Ruben are lovers.

I would like to see Ruben come off the bench at some point, just cuz I really do think he is clutch, or at least a very good pinch hitter. Starting him is wasting him.

23. Fat Al Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:55 PM (#1669173)

His OBP does go up to .277 against lefties. Of course, Byrd is a righty.

Oh yeah, in September Sierra had 61 ABs and K'd 14 times, managing an OPS of .384.

24. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 07, 2005 at 02:57 PM (#1669178)

Then again, a slider speed bat might do well against a slider speed fastball. That's why Bernie hit Byrd so well this year, I think.

25. bebop Posted: October 07, 2005 at 04:02 PM (#1669297)

We must have Sierra with his 148/188/197 stats for September. I'd feel better with Crosby in cf and Bernie dh for defense or even Lawton(not on roster) DHing

26. salajander Posted: October 07, 2005 at 04:03 PM (#1669298)

Well, I have a ticket to tonight's game and two tickets to tomorrow's game. I wonder when I'll be attending these games? That weather forecast looks .. grim.

27. Fat Al Posted: October 07, 2005 at 04:44 PM (#1669447)

It's starting to look pretty dark in NYC

28. Ricky Posted: October 07, 2005 at 05:14 PM (#1669573)

Have tickets for tonight as well, but it's not looking promising outside. Was looking forward to being one of the 50 or so Angels fans there tonight.

29. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 05:44 PM (#1669656)

I think one reason Torre might be hesitant to start Posada at DH is that this would lock Posada out of taking over at catcher in later innings. This way he can pinch hit Posada for Flaherty in a key situation.

30. Halofan Posted: October 07, 2005 at 06:10 PM (#1669722)

Actually, Byrd was not drinking at the party after they clinched, he was eating a quesadilla.

31. bunyon Posted: October 07, 2005 at 06:14 PM (#1669733)

If they get rained out tonight they should play two tomorrow. I know they won't, but they should.

Or on Sunday if they get rained out both days. Actually, they should just fly back to LA and play there.

32. Psychedelic Red Pants Posted: October 07, 2005 at 06:58 PM (#1669884)

What's it looking like in New York? Will they play?

33. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 07:33 PM (#1670007)

Apparently it's cloudy, at least as of now.

34. Bob T Posted: October 07, 2005 at 07:37 PM (#1670026)

This game could be like Game 4 of the 1977 NLCS.

35. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 07:49 PM (#1670073)

Actually, they should just fly back to LA and play there.

And let the Yankees have four outs in the top of every inning. I'd say that would just about offset the loss of two homes games.

36. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 07:51 PM (#1670078)

If I buy the Emanski defensive tape, and send it to Robby Cano during the offseason, do you think he would watch it?

37. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:03 PM (#1670097)

Morgan going with the violet sweater, pcoket square; and tie with violet pattern. I like it,, although I'd prefer the sweater to be v-neck. Gotta let the tie shine.

38. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:05 PM (#1670102)

If the game starts, and there is a delay, what is the maximum delay after which Torre would send RJ back into the game? Would he send him back in after a 2 hour delay? 3 hours?

39. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:06 PM (#1670104)

Hooray. I get to focus all my energy on rooting against the Yankees. Whee.

40. Robert S. Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:08 PM (#1670109)

Looking forward to a choke job from Johnson.

Here you are, crybaby. No excuses.

41. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:09 PM (#1670112)

The weather forecast looks bad for tonight, tomorrow, and tomorrow night. 90% chance of rain all the way.

The lineups for tonight, presuming it goes off:

The Winning Team
The Legs, CF
The OC, SS
Vlad, RF
BMolina, C
Garret, LF
Ruben Rivera, DH
The Punter, 1B
Quinlan, 3B
Kennedy, 2B

The Loooooooooooosing Team
The Jeter, "SS"
The Slapper, 3B
Balco, DH
Matsui, LF
Cano, 2B
Bernie, "CF"
Tino, 1B
Flaherty, C</pre>The Angel radio guys are saying the rain's starting to come down.

42. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:10 PM (#1670114)

Woah, Sheffield has been doing some weird acrobatics in the outfield.

43. Greg Franklin Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:10 PM (#1670113)

Lineups:

Los Angeles

CF Chone Figgins
SS Orlando Cabrera
RF Vladimir Guerrero
C Bengie Molina
LF Garret Anderson
DH Juan Rivera
1B Darin Erstad
3B Robb Quinlan
2B Adam Kennedy
RHP Paul Byrd

New York

SS Derek Jeter
3B Alex Rodriguez
DH Jason Giambi
RF Gary Sheffield
LF Hideki Matsui
2B Robinson Cano
CF Bernie Williams
1B Tino Martinez
C John Flaherty
LHP Randy Johnson

44. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1670118)

Oh, I skipped Sheffield, who's batting 4th.

45. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1670119)

Yeah. May I'll send Morgan the Emanski video too.

46. Bob T Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1670120)

I would think that barring big puddles forming on the field, this game will go the distance. I think MLB has procedures in place for suspending games in this situation also.

No one has ever won a postseason game that didn't go the distance.

47. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1670121)

Channel 55! Still thank you Jeffo!

Rain rain go away until a big Yankee lead after 4 1/2 innings.

48. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:12 PM (#1670123)

Attaboy, Vlad.

Come on, Bengie. Hit me a homer.

49. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:13 PM (#1670126)

Molina is the dude that's been kicking Randy Johnson's ass, right?

50. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:14 PM (#1670127)

Anderson has no chance against Johnson.

51. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:14 PM (#1670128)

WTG, Bengie.

Come on, Garret. That calendar says "2002." Hit like it.

52. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:14 PM (#1670130)

I stand corrected.

53. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:15 PM (#1670131)

I'm going to be sick.

54. AZ Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:15 PM (#1670132)

WTF?

55. Bob T Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:15 PM (#1670133)

Smallball strikes!

56. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:15 PM (#1670135)

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!

ATTABOY GARRET!!!!!!!!

57. Robert S. Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:16 PM (#1670136)

HAHAHA

"Big game pitcher" indeed, Joe.

58. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:16 PM (#1670137)

GAR-RET ANDERSON

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GAR-RET ANDERSON

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59. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:17 PM (#1670138)

Of course, that HR will end up getting washed out, but it's still nice.

60. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:17 PM (#1670139)

Okay, Paulie Baby, shut 'em down. You are The Wyrd.

61. Ivan Grushenko of HK in Tokyo Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:20 PM (#1670140)

Is it raining now?

In New York I mean.

62. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:21 PM (#1670143)

Attawaytopitch, Wyrd.

63. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:22 PM (#1670145)

Should Vlad have caught that?

64. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:23 PM (#1670146)

Let's go ~~Jason~~ Shef!

65. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:23 PM (#1670148)

It's raining in NY, medium light but steady.

66. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:24 PM (#1670151)

LAWoBH, the ball was in his glove, so yes, he should have caught it. But I don't get to hung up on errors.

67. 1k5v3L Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:25 PM (#1670154)

wow. a lefty homering off the big ugly?

that is really bad news for the yankees.

68. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:26 PM (#1670155)

Woo hoo! Good stuff, Angel D! Keep it up, Wyrd!

69. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:27 PM (#1670158)

that is really bad news for the yankees.

i can't tell what mood i'm in tonight, optimistic or snarky.

well, i just hope it is just a well played game.

70. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:28 PM (#1670160)

Well, the final score of this game sure as hell ain't gonna be 3-0 (unless it's rained out, of course). I love the playoffs, when I don't have to worry about ERAs, and I can just enjoy the game.

71. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:28 PM (#1670161)

Come on, Darin! Reach via error ... or something.

72. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:30 PM (#1670167)

You spend your season worrying about ERAs?

73. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:33 PM (#1670172)

I expect three more runs to score here.

74. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:33 PM (#1670173)

Good job, Adam.

Come on, Legs. Stop chonking.

75. Bob Vesterman Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:33 PM (#1670174)

Raining hard in Mine Hill, NJ, approximately 37 miles west of NYC.

76. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:34 PM (#1670176)

Good pitchout call there, on 0-2.

77. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1670178)

I expect three more runs to score here.

Thank goodness for small ball.

78. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1670180)

Ugh.

79. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:37 PM (#1670183)

#### you Jerry Jones, and #### you George Bush for giving him a tax cut.

80. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:37 PM (#1670184)

Biggest game of the year and he shits the bed. Thanks, Randy

81. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:39 PM (#1670186)

If the Yankees offense can't make up three runs they don't deserve to win. The Yankee offense of the first two playoff games have been sucking.

82. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:41 PM (#1670189)

Yay Bernie!

83. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:44 PM (#1670195)

Some ####### performance. At least the Yankees' will last a day longer than the Red Sox.

84. Severiano Flitcraft Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:44 PM (#1670197)

Good news, bad news.

Good news: I celebrated the ChiSox victory by cooking some fabulous sausages this evening on my BBQ.

Bad news: I had no trouble cooking outdoors. There is no way this game will be rained out.

85. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:45 PM (#1670198)

Good news: I celebrated the ChiSox victory by cooking some fabulous sausages this evening on my BBQ.

Can I have one?

86. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:45 PM (#1670199)

Gah! Figgins!

87. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:46 PM (#1670200)

Nuts. CHOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNE hit that pretty well.

88. villainx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:46 PM (#1670201)

Some #### performance. At least the Yankees' will last a day longer than the Red Sox.

Yes, I enjoy watching the Yankees suck.

Let's go whatever it takes to hold the Angels to three runs!

89. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:46 PM (#1670202)

Dammit, Legs. Get a damn hit. Jeez. Just one. Please?

90. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1670205)

CHOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNE's playoff career: 2-24, plus fielding miscues last year. Ugly.

91. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1670206)

Hm, I guess I overlooked his cup of coffee in 2002. Still...his playoff numbers are still teh suck.

92. Softball-Playing Human Refuses to Be Walked Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1670207)

Yes!

93. Severiano Flitcraft Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1670208)

Can I have one?

100%. Hot or sweet?

94. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:48 PM (#1670209)

Randy's got nothing

95. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:48 PM (#1670210)

OC!

IBB for Vlad?

96. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:49 PM (#1670212)

I know Garret went deep, but I'm still surprised to see them pitch to Vlad here. He needs to make 'em pay.

Come on, Vlad!

97. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:50 PM (#1670213)

Useless, he's useless.

98. Severiano Flitcraft Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:50 PM (#1670214)

This is like watching BP.

99. Softball-Playing Human Refuses to Be Walked Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:51 PM (#1670215)

YES!@$!@#$!@# MOLINA!@#$$#

100. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 07, 2005 at 08:51 PM (#1670216)

They should probably stop throwing up and in to Molina.

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