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Sunday, October 09, 2005

AL West Champion Los Angels Anaheim of Angeles at AL East Chump New York Yankees, 7:35 PM ET on FOX

J. Washburn (0-0, NA) vs. S. Chacon (0-0, NA)
LAAoA leads 2-1.

Thanks to Randy Johnson stinking out the Stadium on Friday, the Yankees face a must-win with Shawn Chacon, whose peripherals defy his performance in pinstripes thus far. The rainout yesterday allowed the Angles to rest Escobar, Shields and Cordova which gives them a huge advantage, but let’s face it, they have angels on their side. Who can realistically expect to beat them?

SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 11:48 AM | 564 comment(s)
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1. Sean McNally Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:04 PM (#1672146)

Just a reminder...

Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies!

2. Kadomony Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:15 PM (#1672156)

Go Yankees! I'd love to see the Angels win it in 5, so the Sox don't have to face Colon in game 1.

3. Fat Al Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:24 PM (#1672163)

The White Sox are rooting very hard for the Yankees today. If the Yankees win tonight, whoever comes out of this series is toast in games 1 and 2 of the ALCS. Thanks to Bud and Fox.

4. Richard Gadsden Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:27 PM (#1672171)

So three games in three days in three cities doesn't appeal?

How many fans of the road team will be in Comiskey on Tuesday if the Yankees win tonight?

5. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:48 PM (#1672199)

This whole rainout thing would not have happened had Wayne Franklin not been on the roster (Wayne Franklin was responsible for over 30 games the Yankees lost).

This is the second postseason in a row the Yankees have been ###### by a rainout. After getting 2 very fortunate ones in 96.

It all comes around I guess.

6. Fat Al Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:55 PM (#1672211)

This whole rainout thing would not have happened had Wayne Franklin not been on the roster (Wayne Franklin was responsible for over 30 games the Yankees lost).

I know Wayne Franklin sucks, but 30 games is a lot of blame for a guy who pitched 13 innings.

7. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:01 PM (#1672222)

His mere presence in the bullpen caused everyone else to suck a lil more than they would have normally.

Or we could blame the loss on that Yankee fan in tampa who reached over the wall to make a double a homer for that Perez character. Its all that guys fault, that guy and wayne franklin.

8. bebop Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:51 PM (#1672267)

The bullpen after the top 2 sucks period which is why it sucked more that RJ couldn't suck it up enough, or sucked way too much, to give us 7 innings and 5 runs which is what some aces might deliver when they don't have their best stuff/command.

9. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:18 PM (#1672293)

I don't know, that game was played under such horrible conditions it is tough to blame anyone for anything.

I wouldn't walk to the store in weather like that, I certainly wouldn't play baseball in it.

10. Halofan Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:31 PM (#1672314)

Who the hellll is CORDOVA?

11. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:36 PM (#1672327)

Is J#1F/Chacon#1F around?

I officially surrender my side of the bet, even now previous to hearing the UZR numbers from MGL. No way was Renteria's glove 40 runs better than Jeter's.

I await my new username.

12. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:39 PM (#1672330)

I love the "team comparison" on the Sportline site.

Batting Average
Angels .308, Yankees .260
Edge: Angels

Opponent Batting Average
Angels .260, Yankees .308
Edge: Angels

Amazin'!

13. Bob T Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:48 PM (#1672354)

Marty Cordova is coming out of retirement to pitch for the Angels today.

14. Shredder Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:50 PM (#1672361)

The crawl on ESPN during the NLDS game is now listing Lackey as tonight's starter.

15. Shredder Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:52 PM (#1672365)

I haven't been able to find that information anywhere else.

16. Shredder Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:53 PM (#1672370)

Alright, they just anounced it. Throat infection for J-Dub.

17. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:53 PM (#1672372)

Washburn is ill, apparently. They really don't want to start Colon, I guess. Or maybe he's back in California already.

18. bebop Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:54 PM (#1672375)

ESPN is scrolling Lackey vs Chacon??

19. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:54 PM (#1672377)

Yeah, apparently Washburn had a throat infection, so Lackey getting the start on three days' rest. I suppose the Angels would prefer to start Colon on full rest but he's still in Cali

20. Shredder Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:55 PM (#1672380)

Colon isn't ready. Even on full rest. They asked him yesterday and his back and arm are still iffy. Said he'll be ready tomorrow, though. It was in the LA Times today.

21. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:57 PM (#1672383)

I guess this boosts the Yankees' chances, although they seem to do poorly in big games aganist pitchers on short rest

22. Halofan Posted: October 09, 2005 at 03:59 PM (#1672386)

Lackey, postseason, three days rest... sounds familiar...

23. bebop Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:01 PM (#1672390)

ESPN is scrolling Lackey vs Chacon??

24. Shredder Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:04 PM (#1672397)

If Lackey can go five strong, it will be fantastic. I'd even take him for four, Santana for two, then Shields, Escobar, and Frankie as needed.

25. bebop Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:08 PM (#1672413)

Oh Atlanta!

26. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:15 PM (#1672443)

Well, starters on short rest in the playoffs are generally fairly mediocre (I think BPro did a study on this once) but I'm still nervous

27. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:15 PM (#1672444)

Well, the Yanks deserved a break.

Has a 1st and 2nd inning been this important in a playoff game for some time? With the Yankees concentrated 1-5 lineup (1-6 with so-hot-right-now Robby Cano), and with Lackey on short rest and the Angels bullpen being typically awesome, if the Yankes don't get runs early, they're done for.

28. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:17 PM (#1672455)

What's the weather like in the Bronx?

29. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:24 PM (#1672478)

Wow. What was that? 6 inches?

30. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:25 PM (#1672485)

Wrong thread, sorry

31. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:26 PM (#1672488)

Wrong thread, sorry

32. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:36 PM (#1672522)

What's the weather like in the Bronx?

####### cold, and ####### drizzly.

33. Halofan Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:37 PM (#1672527)

That's what she asked last night...

34. Ivan Grushenko of HK in Tokyo Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:39 PM (#1672534)

Six inches wouldn't seem to merit a "Wow!"

35. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:44 PM (#1672546)

So, who's favored in the White Sox-Yankees series?

36. Shredder Posted: October 09, 2005 at 04:50 PM (#1672560)

Well, the Yanks deserved a break.

Yeah, those poor hard-luck Yankees. Nothing ever goes their way.

37. Ivan Grushenko of HK in Tokyo Posted: October 09, 2005 at 06:18 PM (#1672842)

Hmmm...no posts in narly 2 hours. Is there another game going on?

38. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 06:29 PM (#1672876)

Lineups:

LA Angels
C. Figgins 3b
O. Cabrera ss
V. Guerrero rf
G. Anderson lf
B. Molina c
D. Erstad 1b
J. Rivera dh
S. Finley cf
A. Kennedy 2b

J. Lackey P

NY Yankees
D. Jeter ss
A. Rodriguez 3b
J. Giambi 1b
G. Sheffield rf
H. Matsui lf
R. Cano 2b
B. Williams dh
J. Posada c
B. Crosby cf

S. Chacon P

39. Halofan Posted: October 09, 2005 at 06:29 PM (#1672879)

...and a gnarly two hours it was indeed... all six inches of it.

40. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:06 PM (#1673057)

Okay, now we can start talking about this game. Looks like we'll get that Astros-Yankees world series I've been predicting for three years.

41. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:13 PM (#1673084)

Vaux's reverse jinx attempts are feeble compared to those of Yankee fans. Nice try though.

42. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:22 PM (#1673105)

Is this game happening?

43. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:24 PM (#1673107)

At least Joe got his head out his ass and put Bubba back in CF

44. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:26 PM (#1673113)

What the hell is "The OT", and why is it coming up now on Fox if this ####### game is supposed to start in 9 minutes?

45. Richard Gadsden Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:28 PM (#1673116)

Please let me know if this game will happen or if I should go to bed.

46. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:28 PM (#1673117)

The Yankees game won't start until 7:55 SG. All you're missing is more Kennedy and Zelasko.

47. Richard Gadsden Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:29 PM (#1673118)

I don't get Zelasko today; I get Johnny Gould and whoever else is presenting on five.

48. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:32 PM (#1673123)

Oh, WTF. The start time is now 8:15?

49. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:34 PM (#1673124)

Wow, really?

FOX pushes back the start time of a MLB playoff game.

Next: World domination?

50. EB Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:38 PM (#1673126)

The listing says that baseball tonight is on ESPN2, but they're actually showing poker.

51. DTS Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:41 PM (#1673130)

Oh, WTF. The start time is now 8:15?

I guess it's because the Broncos/Redskins -- and that might go into OT.

52. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:44 PM (#1673133)

I am at work and will not be able to catch this game.

I already know the Yankees are going to lose, and they are probably going to lose to a better team. I just think it is a shame to see weather play such a factor in such important games, perhaps they should play the game inside, in a baseball arena? Like they have in tampa

53. Severiano Flitcraft Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:44 PM (#1673135)

I wouldn't be surprised if FOX doesn't want the game to go up against Sunday night football--that's good competition for the sports watcher demographic. They probably got Budzilla to agree to show the game on tape delay Tuesday night.

54. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:48 PM (#1673136)

Is the game going to get called? I hope not

55. cult of basebaal Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:49 PM (#1673137)

is it raining that hard?

56. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:50 PM (#1673138)

It's not raining at all.

57. Bob "Jugement" Dernier Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:54 PM (#1673140)

It's not raining. There's a delay 'cause some FOX people are down on the field seeing if they can get the Yankees and Angels to wear football helmets and pretend they are the late NFL game.

58. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:55 PM (#1673142)

It's not Steinbrenner's pitcher who's sick...

59. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:58 PM (#1673145)

I guess the 8:15 start was just a vicious rumor.

60. Bunny Vincennes Posted: October 09, 2005 at 07:58 PM (#1673146)

Then what is the problem, SJ? Even if it is, both teams have to play in it. Get over it.

61. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:00 PM (#1673147)

Great, I don't think my dinner agreed with me and now I'm feeling queasy from the game too. This is going to be a great night

62. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:02 PM (#1673149)

Good start by Chacon. Give us another 7 like that and we'll be able to go to the 8th tied.

63. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:05 PM (#1673151)

Seeing Lackey's giant zit makes me glad I don't have HD.

64. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:05 PM (#1673152)

I'd like to see them mnake Lackey throw some pitches early

65. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:07 PM (#1673153)

Vaux's reverse jinx attempts are feeble compared to those of Yankee fans.

I agree, unless he's really a Cardinal fan, in which case he's of first-ballot Hall of Fame quality.

66. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:07 PM (#1673155)

I'd like to see them mnake Lackey throw some pitches early

Why, so we can watch Shields, Escobar, and K-Rod shut them down sooner?

67. Bunny Vincennes Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:08 PM (#1673158)

Agreed, Red. Agreed.

68. Bunny Vincennes Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:09 PM (#1673161)

Agreed, Red. Agreed.

69. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:09 PM (#1673163)

Do you think Colon and Moose are watching the game together? That would be fun

70. Bunny Vincennes Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:10 PM (#1673164)

Agreed, Red. Agreed.

71. AlouGoodbye Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:10 PM (#1673165)

I am rooting for the yankees tonight; does that make me a bad person?

72. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1673166)

Pitiful

73. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1673167)

Then when Colon gets the munchies later, Mussina's routine would get a little thrown off running away from him.

74. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1673168)

I am rooting for the yankees tonight; does that make me a bad person?

Not in my opinion, but it's going to make you a disappointed person.

75. cic Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:12 PM (#1673171)

Man Lackey is one of the most disgusting creatures I've ever seen. Popping, pertruding moles colliding with his 5 o'clock shadow that is squished toward the center of his doubly bridged nose, that curls his top lip off as he spits and snorts all over the place, topping it off with a curly mullet.

76. Bunny Vincennes Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:20 PM (#1673179)

Nice inning by Chacon.

77. Gold Star for Robothal Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:21 PM (#1673180)

I think that's a great nickname for him: Man Lackey.

78. Bob T Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:21 PM (#1673181)

As opposed to the suave and dapper Shawn Chacon.

79. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:22 PM (#1673182)

I'm so glad they all got together and decided to start swinging at balls

80. AlouGoodbye Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:22 PM (#1673183)

What are the commentators saying? That Joe D slept with the umpires to get those RBIs?

81. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:24 PM (#1673185)

The great thing about the Yankee lineup is if 1-6 doesn't do anything, they have 7-9 to do even less.

82. Gold Star for Robothal Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:24 PM (#1673186)

Or that Matsui starting his pinstripes career in his prime is somehow comparable to Dimaggio's success at the start of his career . . .

Man Lackey is looking pretty on.

83. AlouGoodbye Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:27 PM (#1673187)

Am I the only one who can't stand Bernie?

84. EB Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:27 PM (#1673188)

Am I the only one who can't stand Bernie?

yes

85. SG in ATL Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:27 PM (#1673189)

Am I the only one who can't stand Bernie?

Yes.

86. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:28 PM (#1673190)

The Yankees can never hit guys on short rest. Jesus. Beckett, Lowe, even in 1998 they only got 3 runs off Brown on short rest

87. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:28 PM (#1673191)

Then what is the problem, SJ? Even if it is, both teams have to play in it. Get over it.

Prolly way back now, I am just saying I would rather not have had things decided on flukes caused by nature.

For example, when the OC threw the relay 110 feet past home plate, that was clearly weather driven.

That ain't right.

88. Gold Star for Robothal Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:28 PM (#1673192)

Wouldn't it be crazy if that supreme court nominee woman showed up in the game chatter?

89. EB Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:30 PM (#1673193)

Wouldn't it be crazy if that supreme court nominee woman showed up in the game chatter?

I'm guessing she's a Texas Rangers fan.

90. Bunny Vincennes Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:31 PM (#1673194)

That was a very odd line of commentary from the broadcast crew. It was almost like they painted themselves into a corner they couldn't get out of.

91. Gold Star for Robothal Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:31 PM (#1673195)

She's kind of hot in an older woman sort of way. Like Rene Russo.

92. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:31 PM (#1673196)

Jesus. Beckett, Lowe, even in 1998 they only got 3 runs off Brown on short rest

In fairness to the Yankees, Jesus got knocked out early in his previous start, he really wasn't that tired.

93. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:31 PM (#1673197)

Wouldn't it be crazy if that supreme court nominee woman showed up in the game chatter?

The name is Harriet Miers and I'm right here.

94. DTS Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:31 PM (#1673198)

I am rooting for the yankees tonight; does that make me a bad person?

I'd like there to be a game tomorrow night, and since the Braves crapped out, I'm kind of hoping the Yanks win. Even though I will root heavily for the Angels tomorrow night.

95. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:33 PM (#1673199)

I am already resigned to a Yankee loss tonight.

they stink.

96. Gold Star for Robothal Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:34 PM (#1673202)

Chacon's riding that curve like it's Harriet Miers.

97. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1673203)

In fairness to the Yankees, Jesus got knocked out early in his previous start, he really wasn't that tired.

Still. He had appeared in the middle game and gotten the save

98. Robert S. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1673204)

". . . not making any excuses for Steve . . ."

There is nothing more pitiful than McCarver justifying your abysmal season. I can hear Brennaman's voice tremble as he alibis for Finley's "sore shoulder."

99. AlouGoodbye Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1673205)

I have no love for the yankees. But I can't root for the thunderstick-waving rallymonkey-cheering Bonds-walking K-Rod-cheating Rueter-exposing Nen-ruining monsters that are the Wherever Angels.

100. Bob T Posted: October 09, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1673206)

I get a paid holiday on Columbus Day and live in Southern California. A Game 5 would be a delightful bonus!

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