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We're with you all the way
You're always in there fighting and you do your best
We're glad to have you out here in the Middle West
We're gonna root, root, root, root White Sox
And cheer you on to victory
When we're in the stands, we'll make those rafters ring
All through the season you will hear us sing
"Let's go go go White Sox!
Chicago's proud of you!"
We Yankee fans always liked you. We always thought you had potential. We were sad to see you go.
We always saw you having a big role in the postseason for the Yankees. We saw you winning big games to help the Yankees.
You can still do that. Throw the heat. Throw your exploding splitter. Go get'em!
Signed,
Yankee fans everywhere
Although, I guess it works as proxy for, you thought you had the division wrapped up and then your guys chunked it. Which they did, so, yeah. Bleah.
Well...you did get that one great year out of loaiza.
Where are all these Red Sox fans of which you speak who think their team is going to cruise into the next round?
White Sox
SP Contreras
SP Buehrle
SP Garland
SP Garcia
RP Hermansen
RP Jenks
RP Marte
RP Cotts
RP Politte
RP Vizcaino
RP Hernandez
C Pierzynski
1B Konerko
2B Iguchi
SS Uribe
3B Crede
LF Podsednik
CF Rowand
RF Dye
DH Everett
C Widger
IF Blum
IF Ozuna
IF Harris
OF Perez
Red Sox
SP Clement
SP Wells
SP Wakefield
SP Schilling
RP Timlin
RP Papelbon
RP Arroyo
RP Bradford
RP Myers
RP Gonzalez
C Varitek
1B Olerud
2B Graffanino
SS Renteria
3B Mueller
LF Ramirez
CF Damon
RF Nixon
DH The Greatest Hero in American History
C Mirabelli
1B Millar
IF Youkilis
IF Cora
OF Hyzdu
UT Machado
Exhibit A for the prosecution
Roster thoughts, after I did the research to find 'em.
-don't like Gonzalez over Dinardo, but I guess he's got the platoon advantage.
-don't expect Hyzdu to play a single inning, even though he should obviously start game 2.
-what the hell is Ozzie doing? who carries 11 pitchers and 3 utility infielders and no pinch-hitters for a divisional series?
-this roster construction actually makes the Red Sox bullpen kinda useful. Arroyo and Bradford are top-quality bullpen arms if they never have to face a competent lefty.
Dammit. Dammit dammit dammit.
I'm not sure who's worse -- Sutcliffe or Brantley.
Hermanson's back makes it difficult to count on 10.
And aside from Ross Gload, who has been in Ozzie's doghouse all year and hasn't made much of the very limited amount of ABs he's received, we don't have any pinch-hitters.
These are only small advantages and disadvantages, and playing well at the right time is a heckuva lot more important that little tactical considerations.
But Ozzie's doghousing of Gload benefits the Red Sox about as much as any roster decision could.
Um...the Chi Sox haven't had a competent lefty on the roster all season.
Very excited for the game. Probably leaving work at 1pm, red lining it down to Comiskey to start boozing in the parking lot.
Section 528 row 4, every game of the playoffs.
The 850 OPS in the majors in '04, the career 900+ OPS in AAA, this guy is a competent hitter. 40 bad PA don't change that.
You'll find no bigger fan of Gload than me my friend. I've been banging the drum for Gload all season. But my point is that Gload wasnt really on the roster until about 3 weeks ago due to Ozzie/Kwill's fascination with Timo.
Brillant!
...and if DiNardo doesn't make the roster, I'm going to throw a ####### fit.
That's akin to asking what's worse, getting poked in your left eye, or getting poked in your right eye?
AO
Where'd you see a lineup?
Millar at first: While John Olerud started at first base against the majority of right-handers down the stretch, Kevin Millar will draw the start in Game 1.
The reason? He is 5-for-10 lifetime against White Sox starter Jose Contreras, including two home runs.
Man, do I dislike him.
Good. Olerud is a White Sox killer, particularly in the postseason.
Of course, this means he'll be available off the bench for game-breaking-homer duty.
I'm pissed that Gload didn't make the roster, as well. Like others have said, he's the only legitimate lefty bat off the bench the White Sox have.
He's been absolutely tremendous down the stretch. If it wasn't for him pulling his #### together and becoming, at least for a while, the dominant pitcher the Yankees hoped they were getting when they signed him, the White Sox might well be on the outside looking in this October.
But if he buckles today, that's all White Sox fans will remember.
Whatever happens today, Jose, thanks for a hell of a season.
and, Matt, it's definitely Gonzalez over Dinardo:
Boston Herald: Hyzdu, Alejandro Machado and Kevin Youkilis learned they will be available off the bench in the best-of-five series, while Jeremi Gonzalez was given the 10th pitching spot instead of lefty Lenny DiNardo.
...
Gonzalez got the nod instead of DiNardo mainly because the well-traveled right-hander tossed 3 scoreless innings of relief against Chicago this season and had success with high fastballs.
I really thought Tito's devotion would at least not extend to burying proven vet Olerud, but hell.
Gonzalez got the nod instead of DiNardo mainly because the well-traveled right-hander tossed 3 scoreless innings of relief against Chicago this season and had success with high fastballs.
Please tell me this is a joke. Theo wouldn't base a decision like that on such a small sample size, would he?
Then again, Millar is starting...
That's not saying much.
Don't know where I'm at tomorrow, but today, I'll be in 554, in my road (don't laugh) Borchard jersey.
Ok, go ahead and laugh. I'm used to it by now.
Go get 'em, Jose. Hopefully lots of AitC™ starting at 3:00.
I guess I can begin to talk myself into Millar, a little bit, but I'm less than optimistic.
The Red Sox have historically done a great job of wearing out Jose Contreras with patience, and murdering his mistakes. Of course, up until this year, Jose Contreras was historically a crap pitcher, so we'll see.
Red Sox team stats vs. Contreras: 113 PA, 323/427/625
As above, that was all mainly accumulated during years when Contreras sucked.
He was pretty good in '03, and I'm pretty sure the Sox hit him then.
I'm not worried about Contreras. I think this is going to be a high-scoring game.
I haven't found them officially listed anywhere, but there are some local articles with information on the last spots.
For the Red Sox, that Horrigan piece seems to cover the bases. For the White Sox, I found this MLB.com article: But in the ultimate judgment, the White Sox opted for experience over youthful excellence, and versatility over slightly better offensive production. Guillen announced Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez and Geoff Blum as the last additions to his 25-man roster during his Monday morning press conference at U.S. Cellular Field, with rookie right-hander Brandon McCarthy and left-handed hitting first baseman/outfielder Ross Gload passed over.
The main reason Contreras has been so successful the past few weeks is that he's been finding the strike zone with consistency. No more splitters in the dirt on 2-0 - he's had good command of the strike zone and patient hitters are finding themselves at 0-2 or 1-2. The traditional method of beating El Conde™ just hasn't been working.
Of course, this is Contreras we're talking about - a bad start is always lurking, waiting to come out. But if recent history is any indication, the Red Sox may be surprised at what they see this afternoon.
And i'm on record saying willie harris will make a big play of some sort during the playoffs for the chi sox
Me too. I'm thinking if Clement goes 6 innings and gives up 4 runs, he's done his job. I pray Tito is ready with Bronson and the early hook if it looks ugly early.
Bronson can handle long relief duty over Gonzalez in Game 1, at least.
The Red Sox better not do their patented score 3-4 runs early then quit. Although, of course, that'd be a fine spot better than just not hitting at all, so, yeah.
I'm on record saying that one of the next hundred posts will have a letter "q" in it.
Anything on top of all of this is just gravy.
Unfuckingbelievable.
I'll see you guys later in IRC.
That's pretty much my attitude. I've become accustomed to post-season disappointment, so I don't really expect anything else here.
But I'm okay with that. I was expecting 85 wins and a second-place finish this season; 99 wins and the best record in the AL is way better than anyone expected, and the results of a best-of-five series can't change that. This isn't like the Yankees or BoSox, who expected to win and will take anything short of the World Series as failure.
As far as I'm concerned, the pressure's all on Boston. Everyone expects them to win. Hopefully the White Sox can just play loose and surprise everyone, but if not, I won't be devastated.
I would like to see them take one at home, though.
I'll be unhappy if the Yankees go further, though. I'm petty like that.
I'm cautiously optimistic. The Red Sox team I watched in the last month has some big flaws outside of Ortiz and Manny. However, they have a team of guys who have been in this situation before and we saw how the White Sox struggled with fundamentals under Cleveland's pressure in last few weeks. I think the White Sox need to win today to have any chance, because Buehrle is a bad bet to have a good start with his soft stuff.
It's funny how similar the White Sox and Angels are and how similar the Yankees and Red Sox are. It could make for an interesting, or a quick ALDS.
His last two starts were a bit encouraging. Yes, one of them was against the Twins and the Indians were clearly pressing, but he did look to have found the touch on his off-speed stuff. He wasn't leaving the hangers out over the plate and getting killed by extra-base hits, like he did in his bad starts this season.
He doesn't match up very well against the Red Sox, though, I admit.
At USCF: 10-2, 2.48 ERA, 15 BB, 84 K, .247 BAA
On road: 6-6, 3.86 ERA, 25 BB, 65 K, .279 BAA
My theory is "The Curse of the Embedded Yankee" since Mendoza just replaced Babe Ruth as the last man to win a title with both the Yankees and Sox and now has signed with the Yankees
And i'm on record saying you're a dick
And i'm on record saying you're a dick
See, if you were really clever you should have said he's a "dicq"
Those are some bizarre splits, considering that historically Comiskey has actually hurt Buehrle. I don't know what to make of that.
At USCF: 13 HRs allowed.
On road: 7 HRs allowed.
So even though he gives up long balls at a much greater rate at home, his ERA and other stats look that much better.
I wonder if it's because for whatever reason, his starts where he went into Mark Suehrle mode and sulked and balked happened on the road.
¡Ahórranos también, El Conde™!
Enjoy the game, everyone.
Well, the two worst starts I've ever seen from him came at the Oakland Coliseum this season. The A's made him look terrible. Not only did he not pitch well, but he was clearly rattled, doing things like making bad pickoff throws and botching fielding attempts. Totally unlike the normal Mark Buehrle.
Actually, they say "Defending World Champions".
(Getting that in while I still can.)
1983 to 1993. 10 years.
1993 to 2000. 7 years.
2000 to 2005. 5 years.
Not bad, though a lot of that can be chalked up to realignment. But I think you can call that progress.
DB
yes please? why exactly do you pick me?
Plus the wild card. On average, an AL team in the 80s could expect to make the playoffs once every seven years; with the added round of playoffs, an AL team should now make it once every four years (actually 3.5).
DB
Yeah, at the end of the month you'll have to replace it with a 2005 WS Champs hat.
DB
I'm not saying it isn't justified, but I don't think the final result is a foregone conclusion.
I just giggled to myself thinking about the hubris and bravado associated with this statement.
I thought of saying "What if I posted on here that I would actually go out and buy a Porcupine Tree CD in event that the Red Sox actually do win the 2005 World Series?" And then I couldn't think of something of consideration on the other side, since as a Red Sox fan I sure as hell aren't going to make poor Biff wear a Yankee hat or anything like that. The best thing I could come up with was ordering Biff to post "Porcupine Tree is a lame, lame, lame neo-prog band." every day in the Lounge for a couple of months. But that's kind of lame itself.
I noticed that Contreras seems to have been pretty lucky in '05 on BABIP...one of the AL's luckiest. If you believe in such things...
I noticed that Contreras seems to have been pretty lucky in '05 on BABIP...one of the AL's luckiest. If you believe in such things...
It's both--he's been lucky, but the Sox defense just behind Oakland's for best in the league too.
I think he's been able to approach pitching completely differently knowing that his defense won't go all PaDJ on him.
I've got nothing right now except that I have no confidence at all in Young Mr. Lincoln this afternoon.
We had 86 years' worth of latent swagger to use up.
Just wait 'til the "1917!" chants start.
Illinois is the Land of Lincoln.
Dunno. It seems to me that the Red Sox fans here have been pretty pessimistic, except for me.
Now that the Red Sox are in the playoffs, though, I feel good.
They're the defending champions, and I'm not going to worry until they're facing elimination. The Red Sox went 19-17 against the other three AL playoff teams this year (4-3 against Chicago), so there's no reason to think they can't get back to the World Series.
DB
No. Boston Chicago
1 Johnny Damon, CF Scott Podsednik, LF
2 Edgar Renteria, SS Tadahito Iguchi, 2B
3 David Ortiz, DH Jermaine Dye, RF
4 Manny Ramirez, LF Paul Konerko, 1B
5 Trot Nixon, RF Carl Everett, DH
6 Jason Varitek, C Aaron Rowand, CF
7 Kevin Millar, 1B A.J. Pierzynski, C
8 Bill Mueller, 3B Joe Crede, 3B
9 Tony Graffanino, 2B Juan Uribe, SS</pre>
I'll see you your "starting Matt Clement in game one of the ALDS" argument and raise you a "facing the lineup posted in #88" argument.
You could conceivably make an argument that the Red Sox are the worst team in the AL playoffs (although I don't think they are), but I don't see how you could think they have less than a 20-percent chance of making it back to the World Series, and I don't see how anybody could think any of these teams have better than a 1-in-3 shot (if even that high) of winning the pennant.
Go __________ Sox!
Go White Sox!
33 Games
3.61 R/G, 3.26 ERA/G
An average line of 230/296/352
That means absolutely nothing, I just thought it interesting.
Or maybe it means Clement will be able to get away with the nibbling he frequently likes to do...
I don't want to talk nonsense with Bob Loblaw, but I completely agree with his assessment here. It's extremely even, which of course means we'll get 3 straight blowout series that upset all but one of the fan bases and bore national audiences.
Why, the BoSox have brought their bat-girl along on the trip?
I don't want to talk nonsense with Bob Loblaw
Thank you. That's all I wanted, really, is a little acknowledgement.
First time I've ever even been remotely interested in changing my sn to something and nobody comments on it for a full week...
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