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Wednesday, October 12, 2005

ALCS Game 2: AL West Champ LA Angels at AL Central Champ Chicago White Sox, 8:05 PM ET on FOX or FX

J. Washburn vs. M. Buehrle

Angels lead series 1-0.

Nice job by the Angels yesterday, who had to be tired. It’s kind of nice to have ALCS games that don’t last 4 hrs.

SG in ATL Posted: October 12, 2005 at 10:05 AM | 506 comment(s)
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1. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 12:22 PM (#1679128)

It sucks that the White Sox couldn't take advantage of what was essentially an AitC™ outing. That was a pretty embarrassing effort on offense - they just handed the game to the Angels, pretty much.

That's not to take anything away from the Angels - they're a heck of a team, and they don't let you get away with mistakes.

This series isn't over, but losing game one means that tonight is almost a must-win for the Sox.

2. Kris Posted: October 12, 2005 at 01:08 PM (#1679252)

Ozzie, please stop believing the idiots in the press that say giving away outs like cheap halloween candy is the reason the Sox got where they are. I ran out of expletives after seeing Jermaine's bunt attempt, leaving me nothing but stunned silence for AJ's caught stealing.

3. Isotta Fraschini Posted: October 12, 2005 at 02:09 PM (#1679427)

Go Halos! Maybe more Angels success will force the Dodgers to get their act together. I'm sick of their irrelevance for the past 15 years.

4. Dingbat Charlie Posted: October 12, 2005 at 02:28 PM (#1679486)

even the idiots were knocking the Dye bunt.

5. Buddha Posted: October 12, 2005 at 03:00 PM (#1679591)

"Ozzie, please stop believing the idiots in the press that say giving away outs like cheap halloween candy is the reason the Sox got where they are."

Ozzie's the one that convinced the writers in the first place! The writers are just too lazy and stupid to figure out that he was wrong.

6. Bee Bee Richard, Guante de la Piedra Posted: October 12, 2005 at 03:29 PM (#1679659)

It's not so much that the idea is wrong, it's that he was asking the wrong people to do it.

Yes, major leaguers should be able to get a bunt down, but at some point you should just acknowledge that Dye and Rowand are incapable of bunting and don't have them try.

Yes, tonight approaches a "must win" situation for the Sox.

7. Jack Keefe Posted: October 12, 2005 at 03:41 PM (#1679696)

Well Al now we are in the soup today Ozzie Guillen held a team meeting and he said that our problem is that we do not visualize. Take a deep breath close your eyes and see in front of you of what you most want to atchieve and you will atchieve it tonight said Ozzie Guillen and Keefe do me a favor and do not start visualizing a waffle cone full of Denali Moose Tracks. So the boys started to see what they most wanted and to say what it was and so the club house was like Wed. night meeting come to Jesus with all the witnessing Al. I see a fat hanging pitch from Jarhead Washboard says Conoco. Little Gucci yells Threeple! Threeple! I See Leaves of Green, Red Roses Too, says Joe Creed but people look at him funny. I see the ground ball, says Your eBay, I am one with the ground ball, I am the ground ball. I see the mighty Guerrero taking strike three, says Burly. I see us not getting caught stealing so god damn much, says Carl Everett but Ozzie Guillen told him to go soak his head.

8. Kris Posted: October 12, 2005 at 03:47 PM (#1679712)

Ozzie didn't need to do much convincing, the local press hated the old can't run, can't bunt White Sox offense. When Ozzie got hired they applauded it because they thought he would teach these stupid sluggers how to play the gritty NL style way that won the World Series for Florida.

Ozzie goes through stretches when he is bunt happy. He'll not call for one for a few games and then all of a sudden, he's telling Crede to lay one down in the third. Yesterday was one of those days.

I could almost stand it if these guys actually knew how to bunt. Uribe's good at it, but pretty much everybody else sucks, Podsednik is only okay at best.

9. Bee Bee Richard, Guante de la Piedra Posted: October 12, 2005 at 04:11 PM (#1679770)

I could almost stand it if these guys actually knew how to bunt. Uribe's good at it, but pretty much everybody else sucks, Podsednik is only okay at best.

Iguchi is a good bunter. Most Japanese players have good fundamental skills.

10. Kris Posted: October 12, 2005 at 04:31 PM (#1679822)

That's true Iguchi is a solid bunter. That is kind of a bad thing on this team since it means he's asked to bunt a lot even though he is a pretty solid hitter. Whatever, I'm going to be in my same seat tonight, go Sox.

11. Anonymous Observer Posted: October 12, 2005 at 04:33 PM (#1679829)

Most Japanese players have good fundamental skills.

Do they have other skills, like nunchuck skills, or bowhunting skills, or computer hacking skills? Because girls only like guys who have great skills.

AO

12. TWO!-OH!-OH!-OH! CLAP!-CLAP!-CLAP!CLAP!CLAP! Posted: October 12, 2005 at 04:56 PM (#1679877)

Do they have other skills, like nunchuck skills, or bowhunting skills, or computer hacking skills?

I bet Kazuhito Tadano would have an interesting answer to this question.

13. CWS Keith Posted: October 12, 2005 at 05:07 PM (#1679891)

Did Ozzie call for the Dye bunt and the Pierzynski steal? Last night, I was thinking more along the lines that...

-Chone Figgins was probably playing Jermaine Dye back, and Jermaine thought that if he could get a halfway decent bunt down the thirdbaseline, he'd have an easy single. Now, I'm sure that either Joey Cora or Ozzie Guillen let JD know that he was playing so far back, but to actually call for the bunt? I don't know about that...

and, w/r/t Pierzynski, I thought that he went on his own. I really doubt it was a botched hit-and-run. Usually, when they've performed the hit-and-run this year (it wasn't a whole lot), they did it with someone like Iguchi, or Uribe, guys who seem to concentrate more and make sure to make contact when they know they need to. I really can't see Ozzie calling for a hit-and-run with one of his worst contact hitters at the plate, and the second slowest runner on the team on first.

14. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 05:20 PM (#1679920)

Dye was almost certainly bunting on his own. The reaction in the seats around me was one of shock.

15. Jack Keefe Posted: October 12, 2005 at 05:29 PM (#1679933)

Al now they are asking about our tack ticks do the Sox bunt and steel on our own. The answer is yes Al. When Ozzie Guilen explained Lidle Ball to us he said that we must bunt all the time and steal all the time. This caused some high jinks when little Gucci would take guys pocket change from their trousers and one day German Die was crawling around the club house looking for his contack lens and Gucci rapped him in the kisser with a bat and when Die started yelping Gucci yelled "Bunt Die!" and Ozzie Guillen had to explain to him in sign language that he must only bunt and steal during games well we could not blame Gucci too much he is an Asian American. Anyways as I was saying we bunt at will and the way we stop is if Ozzie Guillen takes it off. We had a sign for taking it off which was Ozzie Guillen would stand up on the dug out steps and scream For Gods Sake Hit Away only Buck Show Halter stole that sign and now we have no way of stopping it Al.

16. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 07:02 PM (#1680106)

Bengie Molina is tonight's Angels DH, with Figgins going to CF against the lefty and Quinlan in at 3B. Sox sticking with the same lineup that brought you last night's Game 1 loss.

17. Halofan Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:00 PM (#1680169)

All 3 Molinas are in the starting lineups tonight.

18. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:05 PM (#1680173)

Stop all the sleep-related puns, you fucking bimbo.

19. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:23 PM (#1680188)

Game starting at any moment ...

20. CWS Keith Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:31 PM (#1680193)

I luv Juan Uribe.

21. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:32 PM (#1680194)

Guerrero is an honorary Molina, with the way he runs at this point.

22. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:32 PM (#1680195)

So was that an out? I had the misfortune of looking at the screen right as they showed the play and they went to a commercial.

23. CWS Keith Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:32 PM (#1680198)

I should say, though, that was a pretty bad jump on the ball. That, or Joe Buck aluded to him not even being ready as Buehrle threw the first pitch.

Still a real nice throw.

24. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:33 PM (#1680200)

Vlad runs fast enough to score from second on a sacrifice bunt. His speed is fine.

25. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1680203)

Not that the White Sox will be able to take advantage of that E-1.

26. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1680204)

What the hell?

27. Mark Edward's Got That Go Go Gadget Flow Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1680205)

Something new I learned today:

Jarrod Washburn had a top-five ERA+ in the AL this year.

It's pretty obvious Scott's speed made him overthrow that one.

28. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1680208)

Thanks Jarrod.

29. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:35 PM (#1680209)

Ugh. Come on, Jarrod.

30. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:36 PM (#1680211)

Guillen quickly gives up an out!

31. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:36 PM (#1680212)

Vlad runs fast enough to score from second on a sacrifice bunt.

In Charlotte, Vlad would have been out.

At least the White Sox successfully bunted.

32. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:36 PM (#1680213)

And Ozzie gives it right back. Bastard

33. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:38 PM (#1680216)

Dye will homer, and the runs will be credited to Iguchi's ability to get the bunt down.

34. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:38 PM (#1680219)

That's one, at least.

35. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:38 PM (#1680220)

I'm getting the Cards/Astros on FOX, and I'm getting the Cards/Astros on FX. I'm getting two channels with the Cards and the Astros, and none with the Sox.

The hell.

36. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:39 PM (#1680221)

First lead of the series.

37. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:39 PM (#1680222)

What should I do? Call the cable company?

38. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:39 PM (#1680224)

That sounds like a network problem, Buford.

39. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:40 PM (#1680225)

Call the cable company?

That's what I'd do.

40. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:40 PM (#1680226)

That sounds like a network problem, Buford.

I didn't think it was just my TV.

...This wouldn't be happening if the Yankees won. Damn it all.

41. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:40 PM (#1680227)

Vlad runs fast enough to score from second on a sacrifice bunt. His speed is fine.

Juan Uribe disagrees. Two days in a row.

42. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:40 PM (#1680228)

Jeter would have had that.

43. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:43 PM (#1680232)

My girlfriend always wonders how the Molinas used to play in the backyard. Did they all just squat there, waiting for someone to throw to them?

44. Mark Edward's Got That Go Go Gadget Flow Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:44 PM (#1680233)

Fox TV show promos just ain't what they used to be...

45. CWS Keith Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:45 PM (#1680235)

Wide strike zone from the ump so far. Buehrle needs to take advantage of that.

46. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:45 PM (#1680236)

Bengie was a shortstop growing up.

47. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:46 PM (#1680237)

That's what I'd do.

Called the number most closely related to the University Cable service. Got a person.

Said that "FX is showing the FOX feed instead of showing its own," which seems to be true, (as the commercials are exactly the same, et al.)

She said, "All right," mumbled something about checking into it, and hung up on me.

48. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1680238)

Pierzynski did a good job of selling that one.

49. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1680239)

That foul tip call is going to haunt the White Sox, I can feel it.

50. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1680240)

I'm stuck with radio now, but I have no doubt that whatever call Doug Eddings made, it was wrong.

51. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1680241)

Great. I glance over at the TV and it's ####### Scooter.

52. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1680242)

Or not.

53. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1680243)

Is Scooter drunk?

54. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:48 PM (#1680246)

Yay! Scooter the effeminate talking baseball.

55. Mark Edward's Got That Go Go Gadget Flow Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:49 PM (#1680250)

Shutup Joe Buck.

56. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:49 PM (#1680252)

Nice work Burly.

Scooter was advocating throwing at batters' heads last week. Maybe by the Series he (it?) will be telling kids how to load one up, Gaylord Perry-style.

57. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:49 PM (#1680254)

I'm stuck with radio now, but I have no doubt that whatever call Doug Eddings made, it was wrong.

Nice. I'll check the radio. Genius.

58. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:49 PM (#1680255)

The Claw??

59. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:49 PM (#1680256)

Buehrle looks locked in. Hope it lasts.

60. CWS Keith Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:50 PM (#1680257)

Two good signs from Buehrle so far -- getting his curveball over, and also, has a nice changeup.

61. Mark Edward's Got That Go Go Gadget Flow Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:52 PM (#1680260)

That's the first time I've ever seen Claw's face.*

*I never saw the Matt Broderick film.

62. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:53 PM (#1680262)

#######!!!

63. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:53 PM (#1680263)

Joey Cora's a dope.

64. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680264)

I think Cora has money on the Angels.

65. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680265)

Wow was that stupid!

66. Scott B Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680266)

Didn't Scooter use incorrect grammar?

Shouldn't it have been "slowly" ?

Also, WTF ?!?!?!?!

67. Mark Edward's Got That Go Go Gadget Flow Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680267)

Keep running yourselves into outs, folks. Way to go, Wavin' Cora.

68. CWS Keith Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680268)

YOU ####### MORON JOEY CORA!!!!

69. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680269)

WOW THANK YOU GOD

70. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680270)

Dale Sveum > Joey Cora

I can't believe it.

71. retro-shiite Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM (#1680273)

Now that's just feckin' stupid. Team Smartball's looking pretty out to lunch in this series so far.

72. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:55 PM (#1680274)

I wonder if these are the fundamentals being taught to the kids attending the games.

73. Giantandre Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:56 PM (#1680280)

Is't The Claw from "Liar, Liar"

And as a bball fan without a side in this game how many times are The WS gonna give away outs....2 already today

74. retro-shiite Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:58 PM (#1680287)

Cheerio, andre.

75. Giantandre Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:58 PM (#1680288)

Waving Wendell Kim move to the Southside????

76. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:58 PM (#1680289)

No grown man's name is Joey!

77. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:58 PM (#1680290)

By my count, the Sox have given away 7 outs in 11 innings this series. -- It's hard to win like that.

As Hawk would say, you can do anything if you have three 20-game winners.

78. Giantandre Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:59 PM (#1680291)

A What's up to you retro

79. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:59 PM (#1680293)

I have a hard time believing that Bank of America is really the official bank of all of baseball.

80. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 08:59 PM (#1680294)

I have two Cardinal feeds on the radio-- one FM and one AM. That's four total Cardinal/Astros game broadcasts, and no White Sox.

...In conclusion, #### all of you. Except the Jerry Royster Experience. He was somewhat helpful.

81. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:00 PM (#1680295)

I <3 Uribe

82. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:01 PM (#1680297)

Weren't there no outs when Rowand got sent there? So dumb.

83. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:01 PM (#1680298)

I think the White Sox and the Angels are trying to out-stupid each other.

84. Giantandre Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:01 PM (#1680299)

We have NO radio of Card/Astro here in So cal

85. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:01 PM (#1680300)

WTG, Fast Molina!

86. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:01 PM (#1680301)

I'm tempting to call the campus cable phone number again and again.

...If the game's not on, might as well.

87. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:01 PM (#1680304)

Where do you live, Buford?

88. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:02 PM (#1680305)

That is correct, Biff.

89. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:02 PM (#1680307)

Where do you live, Buford?

I'm in Nashville right now-- Vanderbilt University.

And writhing.

90. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:02 PM (#1680308)

Joey Cora's alma mater.

91. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:03 PM (#1680309)

Nice job, Mark. What did I miss last inning? Getting the apartment ready for new furniture, so I'm kinda in and out of the room.

92. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:03 PM (#1680310)

Not that anyone cares, but I'm getting Sox-Angels on FOX and Astros-Cards on FX here in San Francisco.

Nice play.

93. Giantandre Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:03 PM (#1680312)

Hope you can beat one of the Big Boys in the SEC Buford ... would be fun to watch

94. CWS Keith Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:03 PM (#1680313)

Buford, do you, by chance, have AIM?

95. Urban Faber Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:04 PM (#1680316)

I wonder if they went away from the Game 1 Tuesday night/Game 2 Wednesday afternoon format because Atlanta had trouble selling tickets to the day game after being in the playoffs so often.

I liked that way better, even though the Sox and Angels would have played in the afternoon today.

96. Giantandre Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:05 PM (#1680317)

Obviously thats the same as we get here in THE OC ... as a Cub fan disliking 3 of the playoff teams is no fun

97. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:05 PM (#1680318)

You can use the BTF email system to send it to him keith
;)

98. Buford J. Sharkley Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:06 PM (#1680320)

Hope you can beat one of the Big Boys in the SEC Buford ... would be fun to watch

I could really care less about football. The Vanderbilt Baseball Cornelii are fun to watch, though. A nice ballpark, to boot.

Buford, do you, by chance, have AIM?

Yes, I do. "BufordSharkley." It's in my profile.

...Can you tap cable through AIM now?

99. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:06 PM (#1680322)

Juan Uribe is easy to confuse with Tadahito Iguchi. Don't sweat it, Joe.

100. Don Guillote (The Cheat) Posted: October 12, 2005 at 09:06 PM (#1680323)

First time Washburn has retired the leadoff man

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