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Wednesday, October 04, 2006

ALDS Game 2: Tigers (0-1) at Yankees (1-0) - 8:05 pm EDT on ESPN

DET: J. Verlander (17-9, 3.63)
NYY: M. Mussina (15-7, 3.51)

NTNgod Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:48 AM | 116 comment(s)
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1. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:26 PM (#2197389)

Today's Fun Fact:
Only team--the 2003 A's--has won both games of a series at home and then lost the series in this century

2. Cutter Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:37 PM (#2197414)

Only team--the 2003 A's--has won both games of a series at home and then lost the series in this century

There are a lot of "Only one team" facts when just considering this century. 1995 sucked.

3. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:39 PM (#2197422)

The Yankees would be well advised to win this game, unless they want to be down two games to one with Jaret Wright or a short-rest Tiger Wang pitching in Game Four.

4. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:40 PM (#2197425)

There are a lot of "Only one team" facts when just considering this century. 1995 sucked.

It did, but my intention there wasn't actually to create a false "only one team" thing, but rather to narrow it down to when they had the now used 2-2-1 game breakdown, rather than the previous goofy 2-3 thing. In hindsight, I think the '99 Indians also blew a 2 game home lead with a 2-2-1

5. Not Marv Cook Posted: October 04, 2006 at 02:28 PM (#2197514)

I agree, this game is key. I've already written off Game 3 (unless the Yanks throw up some ridiculous amount of runs).

6. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 02:41 PM (#2197543)

Courage.

7. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:26 PM (#2197838)

I like the Yankees but I want Verlander to win this game...
Hmm

8. Severiano Flitcraft Posted: October 04, 2006 at 05:17 PM (#2197992)

The Yankees have no chance tonight.

I'm the good looking bloke in Section 16 if anyone wants to buy me snausages and/or beer. I'm not very picky, but a Becks would be nice.

9. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: October 04, 2006 at 05:20 PM (#2198007)

I'm the good looking bloke in Section 16 if anyone wants to buy me snausages and/or beer. I'm not very picky, but a Becks would be nice.

You may be good-looking, but y'ain't bright enough to tell potential beer-buyers whether you're in the Main or the Tier.

10. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 05:55 PM (#2198107)

I'm the good looking bloke in Section 16 if anyone wants to buy me snausages and/or beer. I'm not very picky, but a Becks would be nice.

Apparently, beggars can be choosers.

11. Severiano Flitcraft Posted: October 04, 2006 at 06:10 PM (#2198166)

Good point. Main section. Under the overhang.

I'm not choosy or a beggar. I just have a refined sense of entitlement.

12. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 06:30 PM (#2198230)

Spoken like a true Yanks fan.

13. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 06:51 PM (#2198315)

FWIW....

The night before Game 1, I dreamt my family and I were attending Babe Ruth's funeral. I took this as a good omen. The Tigers lost.

Last night, I dreamt I was a superhero- half-man, half badger. My power was 'feistiness.' I'm taking this as a good omen.

14. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 06:53 PM (#2198323)

Last night, I dreamt I was a superhero- half-man, half badger. My power was 'feistiness.' I'm taking this as a good omen.

I think it means that you aspire to move to Wisconsin. I don't consider that propitious or rational.

15. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:07 PM (#2198363)

Delgado < Jeter.

16. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#2198429)

Internet Baseball Awards are up at Baseballprospectus.com.

17. schuey Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#2198430)

Michael Kay just interviewed Bob Sheppard on YES. Is this guy 120 years old..sure looks it. Mr Sheppard's favorite name to pronounce? "After last night, Derek Jeter".

18. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#2198432)

badgers, by the way, are nasty little buggers. pound for pound i'd take a badger over just about any other animal, except maybe certain very mean stray cats i've met.

19. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:41 PM (#2198437)

badgers, by the way, are nasty little buggers. pound for pound i'd take a badger over just about any other animal, except maybe certain very mean stray cats i've met.

Wolverines are mighty ferocious. I think Wisconsin and Michigan should have live animal mascots on the sidelines.

Bob Sheppard is more than 90 years old.

20. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:43 PM (#2198439)

wolverines are known to chase off bears.

for my money, that's pretty bad ass. i ain't standing up against no bear, i'll tell you that right now.

/i, for one, welcome our wolverine overlords

21. kevin Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:43 PM (#2198440)

Shepperd looks like he's been mummified.

22. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:44 PM (#2198441)

much love for shep, by the way. i'm gonna miss him so hard when he passes away

23. Cutter Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:45 PM (#2198443)

The Yankees have no chance tonight.

Hmm. Moose is on the rebound and Verlander has sucked it hard lately. Not sure about no chance.

24. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:46 PM (#2198445)

much love for shep, by the way. i'm gonna miss him so hard when he passes away

Which may be as soon as the third inning. My God, is that ever an old man.

25. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:46 PM (#2198446)

i'd say the yankees are the favorites for tonight (they'll hit against verlander, i'm fairly sure) but obviously it all depends on moose and the bullpen (and torre's bullpen managment)

26. chemdoc Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:50 PM (#2198450)

If Colorado can haul that buffalo around, I don't see why U of M can't bring a wolverine.

And the Tigers could bring a tiger to the Bronx to play with some guy with a feather in his hat who rides a pony.

Oh, and bless you boys.

27. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:50 PM (#2198451)

I've been two feet away from a badger before, it was not cool. I don't know enough about the two, but if I were to pick two as the most vicious, pound for pound, I would have picked those two.

28. chemdoc Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:54 PM (#2198453)

Game delayed?

29. agodnamedpablo2 Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:56 PM (#2198454)

Who does a rain out benefit most? Yanks I'd think. One day of rest for bullpen and Johnson. Wang can start an impending game four on full rest.

30. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 07:57 PM (#2198455)

watching espn, vernon wells is apparently not only a heck of a player but pretty impressive as an analyst, too. he's got a calm demeanor that really works for me and has some very interesting things to say. eric byrnes, as scrubby as he is even in a suit, was also entertaining.

i'm actually enjoying espn's coverage quite a bit, and even joe morgan has been uncharacteristically tolerable for me.

i hope this game doesn't get rained out.

31. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:00 PM (#2198458)

wolverines are known to chase off bears.

Your average bear is reasonably smart, and not insane, while a wolverine is either stupid or crazy. Any grizzly says to itself, "I can probably take him, but, really, it's just easier to ctach another deer."

32. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:03 PM (#2198459)

I really hope The Incredible Fudge Factory catches on as a nickname for Verlander.

33. kevin Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:03 PM (#2198460)

I've been two feet away from a badger before, it was not cool. I don't know enough about the two, but if I were to pick two as the most vicious, pound for pound, I would have picked those two.

They're the two biggest members of the weasel family.

Wolverines have been known to intimidate black bears off their game.

34. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:05 PM (#2198462)

i'd say wolverines are more batshiat insane than stupid, exactly, and while part of me respects the bear for making a sound decision, the greater part of me, when watching such an interaction take place, can't help but say "damn, wolverine, you my boy".

these are the kinds of things that happen when you get drunk and watch animal planet.

quiet chatter tonight, btw

35. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:07 PM (#2198463)

is it just me or does joe buck join jeremy piven in the "inexplicably gains more hair as the years pass" club? does this apply to bruce willis too?

i hope the game starts soon.

36. kevin Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:07 PM (#2198464)

The wolverine is extremely strong for its size and has been known to kill animals as large as moose.[1] Its preference for reindeer has caused it to be hunted significantly in areas depending economically on caribou herds, and its status is sometimes in danger in such regions. It is generally not aggressive toward humans, preferring to avoid human contact. However, because a wolverine will attack an animal caught in a trap, early trappers often tried to kill them. They have been filmed capturing kills from other predators, such as polar bears or a wolf pack. Wolverines are the most ferocious of the Mustelidae family, and could easily dispatch all other Mustelids. Wolverines mate in the summertime, but implantation in the uterus is delayed until early winter, which delays the development of the fetus. Females will often not produce young if food is scarce. The young, usually three or four, are born in the spring. The young kits develop rapidly, becoming adult size within the first year of up to thirteen years of life.

Criminy. Reindeer must outweigh an average-sized wolverine by several hundred pounds!

37. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:09 PM (#2198466)

is it just me or does joe buck join jeremy piven in the "inexplicably gains more hair as the years pass" club? does this apply to bruce willis too?

No wonder why Piven is in so many John Cusack movies. He's learning from the master.

38. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:11 PM (#2198468)

No wonder why Piven is in so many John Cusack movies. He's learning from the master.

i've gotta get cusack's number, as i'm already in the decline years of my hair's peak.

39. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:11 PM (#2198469)

What's the delay? It's not raining.

40. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:12 PM (#2198470)

espn says a big weather system is moving through and they're waiting for it to pass

41. Urban Faber Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:12 PM (#2198471)

My God, is that ever an old man.

Well, he was born in the same month as Frankie Crosetti. So yes.

42. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:14 PM (#2198472)

from peter abraham;

* Randy Johnson threw his bullpen at 12:30 this afternoon, felt fine and flew to Detroit. He will start Game 3 regardless of what happens tonight. "Randy is fine," Torre said.

good news for the yanks? would it benefit johnson to have another day off? he strikes me as the kidna guy who wants to go when he wants to go.

43. Urban Faber Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:16 PM (#2198473)

I anxiously await rLr's answer to zac's question.

44. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:18 PM (#2198474)

Its going to start raining between 8:30 and 8:40, it will continue for about an hour, hour and a half.

makes sense, sort of, you don't want to start and have to stop 30 minutes in.

45. kevin Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:18 PM (#2198475)

Yeah, herniated discs will heal right up with a good night's sleep.

46. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:19 PM (#2198476)

they're saying 10pm on espn

gat dang it

47. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:19 PM (#2198477)

good news for the yanks? would it benefit johnson to have another day off? he strikes me as the kidna guy who wants to go when he wants to go.

I want him to go. Far away and to never return. It would benefit the Yankees if he takes everyday off forever.

48. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:21 PM (#2198478)

Yeah, herniated discs will heal right up with a good night's sleep.

we all known johnson is a)tough as hell and b) stubborn as hell, hence my question about this being a good thing for the yankees. is johnson says he feels fine and doesn't there's a high probability of him getting lit in game 3

49. Greg Franklin Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:21 PM (#2198479)

During the delay, ESPN Radio is replaying the Miller/Morgan broadcast of 2003 ALCS Game 7. Currently in the bottom of the 8th, and Pedro is still on the mound.

50. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:23 PM (#2198481)

I hope he throws 8 innings of 5 run ball, after the 8th inning, I hope his back gives, then we can get KArtstens or Rasner on the roster if we can overcome Randy Johnson's crap factory

51. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:24 PM (#2198482)

During the delay, ESPN Radio is replaying the Miller/Morgan broadcast of 2003 ALCS Game 7. Currently in the bottom of the 8th, and Pedro is still on the mound.

to quote the sports guy, "good times, good times". maybe i shoudl email him the youtube clip.

52. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:25 PM (#2198484)

10! Damnit. I have no idea what I'm going to do until then.

53. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:26 PM (#2198486)

we all known johnson is a)tough as hell and b) stubborn as hell

He's also useless as hell.

is johnson says he feels fine and doesn't there's a high probability of him getting lit in game 3

There's a certainty of Johnson getting lit up in Game 3, no matter how he feels. Because he's got two pitches: a flat slider and a low-90s fastball.

54. Lefty Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:27 PM (#2198487)

This is ridiculous. It's not raining in Manhattan right now. Is it raining in the Bronx? They cut off the radio broadcast.

While I'm griping, 8:09 is way too late for a scheduled first pitch. Throw in a rain delay and the game won't end until 1am. Why ditch the normal 7:05 start?

55. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:27 PM (#2198488)

10! Damnit. I have no idea what I'm going to do until then.

Drink. Start work on your novel. Take a nap. Clean the toilet. Drink.

56. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:33 PM (#2198491)

10 o'clock is awesome. It's like they're working around the season premiere of Lost.

Well, they both are owned by the same company... conspiracy?

57. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:37 PM (#2198494)

To answer a Jeter/Cano statistical question that's been asked a couple of times around here, the first 2B-SS to both hit over .340 in a season were Cupid Childs and Ed McKean, for the 1894 Spiders.

58. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:43 PM (#2198497)

"Drink. Start work on your novel. Take a nap. Clean the toilet. Drink."

Yeah, I'm drinking. I just wish it wasn't going to come to that, again. Ah well.

59. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:44 PM (#2198498)

Cupid Childs and Ed McKean, for the 1894 Spiders.

That's a great omen. Hopefully five years from now the Yankees will be contracted and their roster will be merged with the Cardinals.

60. Urban Faber Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:45 PM (#2198499)

But don't drink out of the toilet.

61. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:47 PM (#2198502)

"But don't drink out of the toilet."

I haven't puked in almost a week. 5 days and counting!

62. Howie Menckel Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:47 PM (#2198503)

FYI, Bob Sheppard is 95, and this I believe is his 121st consecutive Yankees home postseason game. He debuted with the 1951 World Series - Mantle's first and DiMaggio's last. Heck, he was age 40 even then...

63. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:56 PM (#2198510)

I agree with zac schmitt about Vernon Wells and Eric Byrnes on ESPN. Having them on is a lot better than most of the clowns they drag on there. Wells seems really smart and Byrnes... well, he seems like a honest guy, at least, and he hasn't said anything mindnumbingly stupid and has made a few good points.

64. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:56 PM (#2198511)

Also, thanks Gonfalon, I was the one asking about that.

65. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:00 PM (#2198513)

Byrnes is creeping me out a bit now. But otherwise, he's been solid. He's a better "dumb guy" than Kruk.

And speaking of creepy, they're talking about Kirkjian's "Face of basball" article.

66. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:03 PM (#2198516)

That's crazy, they were talking about ARod and Jeter throughout the Mets and Twins games today. Now they should be talking about Hong-Chih Kuo, and how the A's are going to solve their middle infield crisis, right?

67. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:06 PM (#2198517)

I guess this is an opportunity to point out that Jamie Walker looks like I imagine most ballplayers looking around 1930. That is, like an upper midwestern farmer, or Chris Coste. And his soul patch appears to consist of ten extremely long hairs.

68. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:06 PM (#2198518)

Byrnes is creeping me out a bit now.

Yeah, I think I posted a bit too early.

69. Padgett Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:08 PM (#2198519)

Byrnes is creeping me out a bit now. But otherwise, he's been solid. He's a better "dumb guy" than Kruk.

Byrnes is awesome. Ravech asked him whether it was a good idea for Torii Hunter to dive for the drive by Kotsay, and Byrnes replied: "Well, Karl, I have to tell you. I probably would have dived for that ball."

70. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:09 PM (#2198521)

If only this was Eric Byrnes.

71. Urban Faber Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:11 PM (#2198522)

This morning Byrnes said he hadn't worn that suit in years. I think he said "that suit" but maybe he said "a suit" ... not sure.

72. Larry Mahnken Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:15 PM (#2198525)

Today I have realized that Eric Byrnes would make a terrible Yankee. Just because of the suit.

73. Padgett Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:16 PM (#2198526)

The bold pinstripes would be expected, but the three pieces is a nice touch.

74. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:19 PM (#2198527)

Byrnes held his own against stupid reasoning. He won't make many more appearances on Baseball Tonight.

75. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:19 PM (#2198528)

Byrnes' tie is so ####### sweet its ridiculous.

76. schuey Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:21 PM (#2198529)

Sheppard always refuses to give his age. Must be afraid of age discrimination
if he tells. Lives in Baldwin, home of Dee Snider (who in his PMRC testimony 20 years ago was more intelligent than any Senator). Truly a legend. The Cubs had someone, a Pat Piper, who was PA address guy from about 1908 to 1975.

77. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:22 PM (#2198530)

While we're waiting around I would like to point out that sports is no longer fun. We should go do something else, like Frank Deford does.

78. chemdoc Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:23 PM (#2198531)

This morning Byrnes said he hadn't worn that suit in years. I think he said "that suit" but maybe he said "a suit" ... not sure.

With his hair, he looks like he should be wearing pajamas.

79. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:26 PM (#2198534)

While we're waiting around I would like to point out that sports is no longer fun.

Baseball agrees, based on the Tommy Lasorda commercials that market misery.

80. Sean McNally Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:30 PM (#2198536)

So its a 10 pm start? What is this the West Coast?

81. Urban Faber Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:40 PM (#2198537)

I hope if the Dodgers get knocked out, there's an ad with someone forcing a glum Tommy to watch and he calls them a ####### ######.

82. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:43 PM (#2198540)

Are they actually starting the game? They can't be

83. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:44 PM (#2198542)

While we're waiting around I would like to point out that sports is no longer fun. We should go do something else, like Frank Deford does.

Hey!! You kids! Get off my lawn!!!

84. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:46 PM (#2198543)

Wow! A guy from my hometown bought the Penguins!

85. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:48 PM (#2198544)

Fred McGriff. 493 homers, and he may be better remembered for a big, mesh, teal hat. Stay in one city, kids.

86. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:49 PM (#2198545)

I'm just gonna go ahead and start Chattering the Leafs-Sens opener.

87. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:49 PM (#2198547)

So I’m driving home from guitar class tonight and, knowing nothing about the rain delay in New York, flip on the radio—they are playing the 2004 ALCS (Red Sox/Yankees).

Not only was I confused, but I was really pissed off. Why does the Eastern Seaboard Programming Network think I’d want to listen to that?!?! I understand the need for alternate programming and I understand the notion that replaying other games fills the bill (though it’s tough on the radio because listeners hearing Jon Miller and Joe Morgan would be confused), but shoving the Yankees/Red Sox just ticks me off.

I don’t argue for the White Sox very often, but if they have to replay an earlier playoff game, how about something from last season’s World Series?

Otherwise, if they want to pick a noteworthy game from history, why not pick something truly nostalgic—say, Game 6 of the 1975 World Series (Fisk’s HR), or Game 1 of the 1988 World Series (Gibson’s HR), or Game 5 of the 1956 World Series (Larson’s perfecto)? Not only are these truly nostalgic, but it would be very obvious to a radio listener that it is alternate programming.

88. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:49 PM (#2198548)

Wait, are they starting the game? The weather forcast appears to show another large rather ominous bunch of clouds heading towards Yankee Stadium. I'm now concerned.

89. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:51 PM (#2198549)

Would Derek Jeter be given the same adulation if he didn't play in New York?

Hell, no. He'd be Carlos Guillen.

90. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:51 PM (#2198550)

Eastern Seaboard Programming Network

Nice.

91. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:54 PM (#2198551)

Fred McGriff. 493 homers, and he may be better remembered for a big, mesh, teal hat. Stay in one city, kids.

well, in his defense, it is the instructional video [awkward pause] that gets results

92. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:54 PM (#2198553)

Leafs already getting booed on a good PP. Support the team, Bay Street yuppies.

93. zac schmitt Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:55 PM (#2198554)

Would Derek Jeter be given the same adulation if he didn't play in New York?

Hell, no. He'd be Carlos Guillen.

i think the issue isn't whether he'd get the same adulation if he didn't play in new york, but whether he'd get the adulation if he hadn't been on a team that won 4 world series

94. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:55 PM (#2198555)

Sorry for that rant, but I've long since grown tired of having Yankees/Red Sox shoved down my throat, and the idea that ESPN would naturally assume that it would be appealing to a listener in Chicago or LA or Boise or anywhere else really ticks me off.

Actually, my suggestion would have been for ESPN Radio to just revert to local programming, but I understand that there probably isn't anyone at the local stations manning the fort.

95. Pastor Toastman (PH) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:55 PM (#2198557)

Game off.

96. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:56 PM (#2198558)

Bit of column A, bit of column B.

"With all those goals, McCabe was still a minus player."

Well yeah, because PP goals don't count in plus/minus. Idiots.

97. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:57 PM (#2198559)

What, has it been cancelled?

98. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:58 PM (#2198560)

"Hell, no. He'd be Carlos Guillen."

Career WARP:

Guillen: 34.3
Jeter: 86.9

Career Win Shares:

Guillen: 105
Jeter: 278

Jeter has been Jeter since 1998. Guillen has been Guillen since 2004.

99. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:59 PM (#2198561)

Uh, Vernon, the players *will* decide the outcome, whether you play tonight, tomorrow, or try playing tonight and it doesn't get finished. What changes is that pitching depth gets rewarded. As a Tigers' fan, I'd much prefer it if the series hinges on a matchup of fifth starters, but regardless, the players would determine the outcome.

100. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:59 PM (#2198562)

If Darcy Tucker and Mike Peca can become friends, peace in the Middle East IS possible.

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