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Saturday, October 07, 2006

ALDS Game 4: Tigers (2-1) at Yankees (1-2) - 4:05 pm EDT on FOX

NYY: J. Wright (11-7, 4.49)
DET: J. Bonderman (14-8, 4.08)

NTNgod Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:10 AM | 688 comment(s)
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   1. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:58 AM (#2201925)
Bonderman's had nothing left for a month already. A good offense would have scored 9 runs of Johnson last night, and Jaret Wright is much better than Johnson. But hell, there'll be a game 5 anyway.
   2. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:59 AM (#2201926)
off Johnson, that is.
   3. Matt Waters Posted: October 07, 2006 at 05:45 AM (#2201928)
Yankees in five, because I'm a fan, 'till the end and after it.
   4. Sam M. Posted: October 07, 2006 at 08:47 AM (#2201943)
Bonderman's had nothing left for a month already. A good offense would have scored 9 runs of Johnson last night, and Jaret Wright is much better than Johnson. But hell, there'll be a game 5 anyway.

You forgot to add, "and if by some miracle the Yankees decide to forfeit one of the next two games, the A's are an unstoppably awesome force that will crush us with barely a wave of Ken Macha's left hand. Put an end to the misery now."

Fixed that for ya.
   5. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: October 07, 2006 at 09:48 AM (#2201960)
I don't even particularly care if the Yankees win the WS this year.

But if they go down in flames like this in the playoffs, Cashman may lose power, and I think that would be catastrophic for the long-term health of the franchise.

I'd really like to be going to games in mid-October for years to come. So please, win this ####### game, guys.
   6. RMc is the President of the United States Posted: October 07, 2006 at 09:58 AM (#2201962)
From last night's chatter, courtesy of Sam M.:

So what can we conclude from the post-season success (to date) of the Tigers, Cardinals, and Mets, and the struggles of the Yankees and Dodgers and Padres and Twins?

A: Late-season momentum, and late-season struggles, don't mean ####, boys and girls. Things may still turn in one or more of these series, but late-season mo, and late-season struggles, don't mean ####.


In the book "Baseball Between the Numbers," there's a chart on page 361 that correlates playoff success with 26 different measures of team quality. The fcators that correlate best with winning playoff games are ones you's expect: W-L%, Pyth W-L%, Opponent's BA, Closer effectiveness. What factor correlates least well? W-L% After August 31.

That's right: teams that play well Sept 1 and later actually did less well -- a lot less well -- in the playoffs than teams who didn't. I was shocked to read this at first, but I guess it makes sense, when you think about it. So much for momentum.

Further, team Runs Allowed has an excellent correlation with winning, while Runs Scored seems to have no effect at all, either positive or negative.

So, in the Tigers we have a team that stumbled around in a daze for nearly two months and ralphed up the division title...but still lead the league in ERA. They're playing a team that played well after September 1st, with enough offensive firepower to light up Antarctica in the winter. It's a five-game series.

OK, let's get real; the Yankees could easily win the next two games 13-4 and 17-6. They're still the Yankees, people.

But I say the Tigers win it.

Win it all.
   7. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 10:46 AM (#2201975)
Well, this would be disappointing.
   8. Cutter Posted: October 07, 2006 at 11:23 AM (#2201995)
Here's what's most troubling to me:

Against 23 year old flamethrowing righty Verlander the Yanks barely mustered any offense.
Against 62 year old junk throwing lefty Rogers (whom the Yankee hitters have mostly done well against) they mustered NO offense.

What to expect today? I'd love to predict 9 runs but who the hell knows. Looks like the Tigers are playing with a sense of purpose while the Yankees look like they're asleep.
   9. robinred Posted: October 07, 2006 at 11:51 AM (#2202016)
while the Yankees look like they're asleep.

I am pretty neutral about the Yankees, so I'm not saying this to bag on them, but I do think they could use a little on-field/in-the-dugout animation/anger Paul O'Neill stuff in these situations. Since they are THE YANKEES and they have THE 200M PAYROLL, there is that sense of "oh, ####, they are about to lose" when they get in tight post-season spots. I think a little anger and chair-kicking and "#### it" might help them. Torre's even-keel style is good long-term, but even though baseball ain't football, I think somebody--a player--needs to get a little visibly pissed off right about now.
   10. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 11:53 AM (#2202017)
I mortgaged my soul for last night's game. It was worth it.

Someone else needs to step up for today's game, because I'm all tapped out.
   11. robinred Posted: October 07, 2006 at 12:26 PM (#2202038)
I mortgaged my soul for last night's game.

No worries. Satan has a "lifetime" arrangement with The Gambler now; you, like Bart Simpson and Joe Hardy, will be off the hook.
   12. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 12:35 PM (#2202047)
Well, I'll be around for this one. I really hope we see Good Jeremy (with his good slider) today.
   13. fra paolo Posted: October 07, 2006 at 12:41 PM (#2202053)
Will we see an octopus on the field of Comerica Park toward the end of today's game? I hope so.
   14. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 01:19 PM (#2202075)
Today's Fun Fact
No team has lost the third game of a Best-of-Five series tied 1-1 and come back to win the series since the 2002 Giants
   15. battlekow Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:05 PM (#2202114)
Bonderman's had nothing left for a month already. A good offense would have scored 9 runs of Johnson last night, and Jaret Wright is much better than Johnson. But hell, there'll be a game 5 anyway.

Jesus Christ, man.
   16. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:29 PM (#2202139)
1. J Damon, CF .285 24 80 25
2. D Jeter, SS .343 14 97 34
3. B Abreu, RF .330 7 42 10
4. G Sheffield, 1B .298 6 25 5
5. H Matsui, DH .302 8 29 1
6. J Posada, C .277 23 93 3
7. R Cano, 2B .342 15 78 5
8. A Rodriguez, 3B .290 35 121 15
9. M Cabrera, LF .280 7 50 12
   17. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:41 PM (#2202152)
I didn't think A-Rod would accept a trade away from the Yankees before today but batting eighth is a huge insult IMO. I wouldn't be surprised if he was traded now.
   18. Robert Machemer Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:46 PM (#2202159)
The wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful things.
Their tops are made out of rubber,
Their bottoms are made out of springs.
They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy,
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun.
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers
Would be to win 3-1.

Go Tiggers!
   19. bebop Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:48 PM (#2202163)
Wow! If there were a contest guess the lineup I don't think anyone could have anticipated this one.
   20. Sam M. Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:53 PM (#2202167)
A-Rod batting 8th. I guess we know what Torre thinks, eh?
   21. PJ Martinez Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:54 PM (#2202168)
8th? Is that for real?

6th is one thing, but 8th is really insulting. I don't get it all, from a managerial standpoint. Is Torre trying to light a fire under A-Rod or something? Doesn't that just put more pressure on him? Or, maybe, like that Verducci article suggested, Torre's trying to make A-Rod mad, so he'll show a little passion?
   22. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:54 PM (#2202169)
if you are going to sit Giambi, why not do it against the lefty? If you are going to sit Sheff, why not do it against the righty? If you are going to play Melky in LF, why not against the lefty? If you are going to bat arod 8th, why not just announce before the game that he sucks, and you have no confidence in him?
   23. PJ Martinez Posted: October 07, 2006 at 02:59 PM (#2202174)
"If you are going to bat arod 8th, why not just announce before the game that he sucks, and you have no confidence in him?"

Well put. It really is something that the Yankees have perhaps the greatest-hitting SS of all-time on their team and he is playing 3rd base and batting eighth one loss away from an early postseason exit.
   24. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:03 PM (#2202177)
Wait, so Torre is benching Giambi now, against a righty, after allowing him to suck balls last night against Kenny Rogers? Torre's not trying to win this game. Maybe he's tired of New York, but can't bring himself to quit, so he's trying to get fired.

I pointed this out last night, but back when the Yankees were winning the WS every year, their perpetual calm was spun as "professionalism". Now that they haven't won it in five seasons, people say they look "flat". I wonder which it is for reals.

Anyway, on the subject of A-Rod batting 8th, I personally went apeshit and got suspended when my coach batted me 8th during a slump my junior year of high school. And I didn't hit any 35 home runs, if you know what I mean. So if it were me -- and this is not by any means to say that this is what should or even will do -- I would be extremely angry.
   25. PJ Martinez Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:06 PM (#2202180)
So, in what city will A-Rod be playing half his games next year? Oswalt for A-Rod?
   26. Banta Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:09 PM (#2202182)
This lineup is nuts. In the other thread, there was some talk about Arod blowing a mental gasket. I think that actually happened to Torre. What's the upside to this?
   27. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:10 PM (#2202183)
If arod gets traded, i want him in the AL so he can beat the #### out of the yankees every year. trade him to the jays + money for halladay
   28. KronicFatigue Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:12 PM (#2202184)
Someone remember this next time someone says that Torre is great at dealing with his players. even if this lineup were to benefit the yankees in the short term, it's going to forever destroy the mental stability of arod (ok, maybe that's overstating it).
   29. robinred Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:13 PM (#2202185)
Torre's trying to make A-Rod mad, so he'll show a little passion?

Maybe. Rodriguez does not seem to have the type of personlity this would work with, though.
I actually think putting Cabrera in is a good idea.
   30. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:15 PM (#2202186)
Actually, that would be a great trade for the Yankees as they could just go out and sign Aramis Ramirez to replace A-Rod. There's no way the Jays will do that.
   31. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:16 PM (#2202188)
I actually think putting Cabrera in is a good idea

Yeah, but instead of your best left-handed hitter? How about benching your walking wounded, who's playing out of position anyway (ie, Sheffield)? I think this lineup is lunacy. It could also score eight runs without blinking.
   32. bebop Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:18 PM (#2202189)
Maybe Giambi's hurt or they think he matches up better against a junk baller then a 90+ pitcher like Bonderman. As for Arod this is really sad, I think he need a new life coach.
   33. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:21 PM (#2202193)
I think I might bat A-Rod second, drop Jeter to 3rd and Abreu to 4th. It looks a little weird, but it shakes up A-Rod's game and at the same time looks like a vote of confidence. And it seemed to work last year when Jeter was leading off.
   34. robinred Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:32 PM (#2202209)
Yeah, but instead of your best left-handed hitter?

If it were me, I would not bat Rodriguez 8th, nor would I bench Giambi to get both Matsui and Sheffield in there. So Giambi would be playing. But I think getting a little speed and D on the field is a good idea.
   35. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:34 PM (#2202211)
I have never been less happy to be right than yesterday. Randy Johnson is Old Reliable.

Oddly enough, though, I have a good feeling about Jaret Wright. And if it gets to Game Five, it takes a Tiger to beat the Tigers.
   36. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:38 PM (#2202215)
But I think getting a little speed and D on the field is a good idea.

The difficulty with having so many good hitters, I suppose, is figuring out which one to sit when you want improve your defense. I guess if it came to benching either Giambi or Matsui for defense, to me it's a no-brainer: Sit Matsui. Unless Giambi has owies, which is a distinct possibility.
   37. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:39 PM (#2202217)
Gary Sheffield is getting way too much credit from Joe.
   38. dng Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:43 PM (#2202219)
Paul McGuire is far worse than any Rick Sutcliffe or Jeff Brantley.
   39. battlekow Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:49 PM (#2202229)
Paul McGuire is announcing a baseball game?
   40. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 03:56 PM (#2202239)
Here's a question I have after talking to some locals: Do the Tigers need to win this series to validate their season after the last week collapse? I understand all the problems of basing anything on the outcome of a five game series, but a lot of people out there will.
   41. Fat Al Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:04 PM (#2202244)
I agree with whoever was questioning Torre's use of Sheff. I know he sat last night, but where does Torre get any confidence that Sheff is a proper cleanup hitter in this lineup? It really looks like desperation.
   42. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:04 PM (#2202245)
Here's a question I have after talking to some locals: Do the Tigers need to win this series to validate their season after the last week collapse?

I don't think so. They won, what, 95 games? They made the playoffs for the first time in a zillion years. Zumaya & Verlander broke out; Curtis Granderson established himself; Jeremy Bonderman was some bad hit-luck away from being the second-best pitcher in the AL. Yeah, they played poorly in the final two months, and they got the toughest draw in the post-season by crapping out against the Royals on the last weekend. But does that negate all the good things that happened this year? Absolutely not. And they still get the financial incentives of being in the post-season. Ticket sales will be up next year, and if they can remain competitive (sure, a big if, but you never would have said it last year at this time) they're in a position to make long-term games.

Resting on their laurels over the off-season would be a mistake, but even if they lose in the next two games, the Tigers can be proud of what they achieved this year.
   43. Captain Supporter Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:04 PM (#2202246)
Joe Torre is batting A-choke 8th because he has watched the games. If he is going to lose he wants to do it with the lineup that gives him the best chance to win. In my opinion, batting Alex 8th is the second best thing he could have done. The best would have been to play Cairo. In terms of this destroying Alex's mental stability or whatever, its already been destroyed. You can't blame Torre for that. As Giambi said in the SI article, Torre babied him for months.

I'll add this, if the its late and close and Alex still looks like a deer in the headlights in his first couple of bats, I'd pinchhit for him.

Also, I think its pretty obvious that Giambi is out because his hand is bothering him.
   44. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:05 PM (#2202248)
That should read, "make some long-term gains".
   45. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:06 PM (#2202249)
Joe Torre is batting A-choke 8th because he has watched the games.

So why is Sheffield batting fourth? I've watched the games and he looks pretty lost, too.
   46. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:07 PM (#2202250)
I'll add this, if the its late and close and Alex still looks like a deer in the headlights in his first couple of bats, I'd pinchhit for him.

With whom? If Giambi's hand really is bothering him, that leaves . . . Miguel Cairo? Andy Philips? He's having a crappy series, but don't be ridiculous.
   47. Nick Warino Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:13 PM (#2202253)
Yeah, I don't understand Torre here. After all, Rodriguez has looked very good striking out. And those weak flyout were on very good swings.
   48. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#2202255)
You know what I can't imagine caring less about Terrell Owens' return to Philadelphia. Am I the only one? Is everybody else in America really amped up about this? Because ESPN and FOX are hyping it as if it were a cage match between Joe Biden and Dick Cheney.
   49. Captain Supporter Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:16 PM (#2202259)
So why is Sheffield batting fourth? I've watched the games and he looks pretty lost, too.
He's batting 4th because Torre is wedded to LRLRL. I don't think he looks lost, just rusty. I would not be surprised to see him get a couple of hits.
With whom? If Giambi's hand really is bothering him, that leaves . . . Miguel Cairo? Andy Philips?

Bernie. Its not just a crappy series. He is now 4 for 38 with zero RBI's in the playoffs. Thats pretty hard to do. And he looks nervous and jerky at the plate.
   50. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:16 PM (#2202260)
Yeah, I don't understand Torre here. After all, Rodriguez has looked very good striking out. And those weak flyout were on very good swings.

You know what matters more than an entire career of being the second-best hitter in baseball? The last three games.
   51. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:17 PM (#2202261)
I don't think he looks lost, just rusty.

Lost or rusty, he hardly looks likely to be smacking ropes against Bonderman.
   52. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:19 PM (#2202265)
Here's a question I have after talking to some locals: Do the Tigers need to win this series to validate their season after the last week collapse? I understand all the problems of basing anything on the outcome of a five game series, but a lot of people out there will.

Even if we'd been swept, this would have been a very good season. Remember when we were hoping, if things broke right, we'd win 85 and finish third? That seems like ten years ago.
   53. Jeffo Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:19 PM (#2202269)
So....when does the game start? Are they waiting on the NL game to end, or is another FOX special "we start once we've pimped all our shows" type of thing?
   54. Joe Bivens, Ditch Digger Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:19 PM (#2202270)
I don't even particularly care if the Yankees win the WS this year.

What horse ####. This is the most pathetic statement I have seen from a fan in a long,long time. You don't even particularly care! Ha! OK, Nero. Tell us how you wouldn't come all over yourself if the Yankees rebound and win the next 2 games, and then went on to win it all.

Have some grace, why don't you.
   55. Run Joe Run (Illonardo) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:21 PM (#2202272)
Jimmy Rollins is real good this pre-game. Good analysis of Jaret Wright
   56. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:21 PM (#2202273)
He is now 4 for 38 with zero RBI's in the playoffs. Thats pretty hard to do. And he looks nervous and jerky at the plate.

This, of course, not true. He's 4 for 38 in his last 8 playoff games. In the playoffs, he's hitting .305/ .393/ .534. I agree that he's looked hesitant. But, unlike Bernie Williams, he is physically capable of doing damage against a hard-throwing right-hander. Alex Rodriquez has had a few bad games. Bernie Williams is a bad player.
   57. Urban Faber Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:23 PM (#2202274)
The usual Fox set-up, I think. Probably will start within the next 5 or 10 minutes. Or half hour.
   58. Joe Bivens, Ditch Digger Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:24 PM (#2202277)
*rebounded and won*

I mean, you spent 165 games paying attention to them. Going into the playoffs they were the oddsmakers choice to win the WS. They draw a team that has been playing horribly the last few weeks of the year. But you won't care if they don't win. Yeah, sure, I believe you.

Please god, let someone hit a walkoff HR today. Preferably the 9th batter.
   59. Captain Supporter Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:25 PM (#2202280)
All I can say Voxter is A-rod's defenders may be surprised at his performance so far this year, but many of us who have watched him this year are not. Anyway, the game is about to start so I am hoping he'll be the best 8th place hitter around.
   60. salajander Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:27 PM (#2202282)
Oh my god, I've never heard this guy Lewin before. I don't think I can take that lispy thing he has for 9 innings. I almost miss buck and mccarver.

Almost.
   61. cic Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:28 PM (#2202283)
i thought this game was supposed to start at four?

what in the hell is going on
   62. Joe Bivens, Ditch Digger Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:28 PM (#2202284)
54. Robby Cano isn't just a God, he's THE God.('zop) Posted: October 06, 2006 at 08:01 PM (#2201268)
I'm ####### nervous and I'm going to have to miss some of the game to go to a party. #### me.


And then this:

5. Robby Cano isn't just a God, he's THE God.('zop) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 09:48 AM (#2201960)
I don't even particularly care if the Yankees win the WS this year.


Last night you were nervous, but evidently, you've come to grips with it all.

Good luck to you, kid.
   63. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:30 PM (#2202285)
Josh Lewin and Steve Lyons. #### me in the ############# ass.
   64. Urban Faber Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2202286)
Nice patience, Yankees.
   65. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:32 PM (#2202287)
Way to work the count, boys.

I think somebody owes me a bleacher seat for a game next year, by the way. A bet I was hoping to lose.
   66. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:33 PM (#2202289)
Now, do you think that there's a scouting report that's telling the Yankees to swing early against Bonderman? Are they nervously hacking? Or is this just a coincidence?

Oh god. Please don't talk about ############# Ben Stiller movies.
   67. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:33 PM (#2202290)
First 1-2-3 from a starter this playoffs.
   68. Chip Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:34 PM (#2202291)
7 pitches.
   69. bebop Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:36 PM (#2202292)
Ho Hum-more of the same. I can deal with losing but at least show that you're pulse is beating Yankees.
   70. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:36 PM (#2202293)
The biggest ######## dump last night when people were talking about Jaret Wright was, "He pitched a Game 7! He knows what it's like! He'll be great!"

Either evaluate the guy on his merits or shut the hell up. Ugh.
   71. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:38 PM (#2202296)
That wasn't a leaping play. He got eight inches off the ground.
   72. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:38 PM (#2202297)
Everytime I hear Wright's name, I remember that he was the guy the Indians wouldn't give up for Pedro Martinez. Imagine how much recent baseball history would have been altered if that trade had been made.
   73. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:38 PM (#2202298)
Maggs may have slipped, but I think he's a better hitter than Polanco, guys.
   74. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:39 PM (#2202300)
I'm sorry, but batting Sean Casey third is way crazier than Joe Torre has done with his line up. I take back, oh, 83% of the mean things I said about his lineup.
   75. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:39 PM (#2202301)
Christ.
   76. dng Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:40 PM (#2202302)
Adrian Peterson is really good.
   77. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:40 PM (#2202303)
For absolutely no reason at all, I think Wright will pitch well today. Well for Jaret Wright, that is, which mean 2 runs in 5 1/3 or 5 2/3. But I think he'll give the Yankees a chance to win.
   78. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:41 PM (#2202304)
Everytime I hear Wright's name, I remember that he was the guy the Indians wouldn't give up for Pedro Martinez. Imagine how much recent baseball history would have been altered if that trade had been made.

I think the AL in the mid-late 90s would have been more competitive. Pedro would a won 25 games in front of that 99 offense.
   79. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:42 PM (#2202305)
And Gary Sheffield leads off after the steroid ad. Talk about a mixed message.
   80. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:43 PM (#2202306)
I think there must be a scouting report. That's three of four guys hacking early and often.
   81. dng Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:43 PM (#2202307)
How the hell did Lewin make it to national games?
   82. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:45 PM (#2202310)
Hey Mags: Cut your hair, you damn hippie.
   83. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:45 PM (#2202311)
I think he will to rLr.

Bonderman BB/9 is something like 2.7, best on the staff, so its probably strategy.
   84. Banta Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:45 PM (#2202312)
Bonderman looking sharp early.
   85. Chip Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:45 PM (#2202313)
Two straight 7 pitch innings for Bonderman.
   86. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:46 PM (#2202314)
I mean, you expect the Tigers to swing early and often.

Six up, six down for Jeremy. Are we looking at a pitchers' duel?
   87. bebop Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:46 PM (#2202316)
Nice AB Shef. BTW didn't he also suck last year but get none of the criticism that Arod got?

Congratulations to Jeremy Bonderman on pitching the 2nd perfect game in post season history a day before the 50th anniversary of Don Larsen's.
   88. Rob Base Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:47 PM (#2202318)
Magglipwn3d
   89. salajander Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:47 PM (#2202319)
%^$#$%@^#$%#$^*%$
   90. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:47 PM (#2202320)
Maggs!
   91. Urban Faber Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:48 PM (#2202321)
Oh-WEE-oh!
   92. bebop Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:48 PM (#2202323)
Game set match
   93. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:48 PM (#2202322)
That's fewer than three pitches per at bat. With Zumaya possibly not available today, I'd think they'd try to work the count at least a little bit. I realize Bonderman's got good control, but this is kind of silly.
   94. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:48 PM (#2202324)
OOO-EEE-OOO, MAGGLIO. That chant still haunts my dreams.
   95. John Brill's #1 Fan (JMN) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:49 PM (#2202325)
Maggs!
   96. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:49 PM (#2202326)
MAGGS!!!!!!!
   97. rLr Did Your Mother 'Cause She's Hot As A Baker Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:49 PM (#2202327)
Nice AB Shef. BTW didn't he also suck last year but get none of the criticism that Arod got?


Matsui was horrendous in the ALDS last year is what I remember. He had something like 175 LOB.
   98. Tanto Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:49 PM (#2202328)
Everytime I hear Wright's name, I remember that he was the guy the Indians wouldn't give up for Pedro Martinez.

I remember Wright as the primary architect of <url=http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B10060ATL2004.htm>this game</url>. 4 1/3, 8 hits, 3 homers, six earned...bastard.
   99. cic Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:50 PM (#2202329)
sigh.
   100. Tanto Posted: October 07, 2006 at 04:50 PM (#2202331)
Okay, that didn't work...but you get the idea.
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