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Tuesday, May 30, 2006

BOS (30-19) at TOR (28-22) - 7:07 PM EDT

BOS: Beckett (7-1, 3.80 ERA)
TOR: Chacin (5-1, 5.31 ERA)

Gosh these two teams have played a lot already.

Hey, how ‘bout Ricky to the Argos, eh?

Sean McNally Posted: May 30, 2006 at 11:46 AM | 141 comment(s)
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1. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: May 30, 2006 at 12:17 PM (#2043825)

Over/Under on Vernon Wells RBI tonight? This guy is killing the Red Sox.

2. badpunstrkagain Posted: May 30, 2006 at 02:50 PM (#2044034)

Yeah he's easilly the best center fielder in the AL...He's not too hot right now thought, I would worry more about young Alex Rios, the best right fielder in the AL.Well, AL east anyways. He's got the best batting average in baseball, and a cannon that rivals Wells'. Anybody that tries to stretch a double or triple on him will think twice next time. However, I think the Sox definatley have the edge in pitching, Beckett's doing well and this is Chacin's first start of the DL. I think the Jays only chance will be small ball.... Man, for such a young team Toronto sure is making waves.

3. chris p Posted: May 30, 2006 at 03:09 PM (#2044068)

are they really such a young team?

4. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: May 30, 2006 at 04:49 PM (#2044179)

Well, compared to the Yankees and Sox, yeah. Not on the whole, really.

5. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:07 PM (#2044345)

Evening eveybody. Even you Ponz'. The Evil Robot from the Future tonight? Oh-oh.

6. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:20 PM (#2044367)

Chacin is a cross between Clement and Steve Trachsel when men are on base. Slow, slower, and slowest.

Also, could they convince Coco to avoid the head first slide? I know he's wearing that protective padding on the hand where he broke the bone, but you'd think discretion would be the better part of valor at this point. Especially with the way the injury bug has hit the team in the last week or so, between Manny, Wily Mo, Timlin, Wells, Clement, and now Loretta.

7. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:22 PM (#2044372)

Resting Loretta??

8. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:24 PM (#2044377)

Damn, Lowell is JUST missing!!!

9. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:25 PM (#2044379)

Loretta out because of the HBP on the toe last night. They said on the pre-game they don't think it's serious; at the same time they were sending him to a foot specialist this afternoon. Give the Red Sox record with those sorts of things, I expect a six-week DL stint.

10. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:26 PM (#2044382)

RE #2 - I agree Toronto are a great team. I think their season though hinges on AJ Burnett though

11. cal Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:27 PM (#2044383)

Why is Dave Pauley starting tomorrow instead of any of the guys at Triple A?

12. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:27 PM (#2044384)

Loretta has a sore foot from a foul ball last night, so Tito gave him the night off. Chip, I too am unenthused by Coco's base stealing.

Hey Phil.

13. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:29 PM (#2044389)

Loretta out because of the HBP on the toe last night. They said on the pre-game they don't think it's serious; at the same time they were sending him to a foot specialist this afternoon. Give the Red Sox record with those sorts of things, I expect a six-week DL stint.

Thanks, I just came stright here.

14. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:29 PM (#2044391)

teddy

15. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:30 PM (#2044397)

I thought is was because he fouled one off his foot...

16. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:32 PM (#2044399)

jesus ####### christ

17. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:32 PM (#2044400)

####

18. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:32 PM (#2044401)

Why is Dave Pauley starting tomorrow instead of any of the guys at Triple A?

Also from pre-game, in a conversation with Francona: Pauley was on turn, the AAA candidates weren't; plus he was already on the roster (I assume a reference to the 40-man).

...

They should just give Wells the Bonds treatment at this point. Awful, awful pitch by Beckett, though.

19. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:33 PM (#2044402)

WTF? Also, Beckett had him struck out.

20. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#2044403)

jesus ####### christ

21. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:36 PM (#2044408)

They should just tell Beckett it's the second inning. What is it about power pitchers and first inning troubles?

22. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:39 PM (#2044416)

Supposedly, Beckett has to warm up with bandaids on his fingertips. Maybe that's why:

1) He sucks in the 1st inning.

2) He has been working the breaking ball into the mix in very gradually, as the innings go by.

3) Varitek should not ask for change-ups to Vernon Wells with a man on in the 1st.

4) He's frustrating.

23. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:40 PM (#2044421)

They were noting on NESN that Beckett is now tied with Garland for most road HRs allowed, with 12. He's given up at least one in every road start except for his first, in Texas. No HRs allowed at Fenway.

24. cal Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:40 PM (#2044420)

thanks for that.

25. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:41 PM (#2044425)

Here we go again, with ####### Glaus snaring that line drive

26. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:42 PM (#2044429)

That's because these teams are stealing signs on the road!

27. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:43 PM (#2044431)

And now Cora with a line drive. Chacin is making a ton of mistakes.

28. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:43 PM (#2044434)

How long before the mainstream media come out and criticise Tek's pitch calling...

NEVER!!!

29. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:44 PM (#2044440)

How in gods good name was that a strike???

30. cal Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:46 PM (#2044442)

Chacin thought it was a ball.

31. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:46 PM (#2044444)

Pauley is probably as good as any of the AAA guys anyway.

I'm curious to see him pitch. I haven't decided whether he's a legit prospect yet or not.

32. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:46 PM (#2044446)

That's the only bottom-of the zone pitch Everett has called a strike so far tonight, off the inside corner to righties. He gave Chacin one of those in the first, and now he gives him another one for the K. Stuff down the middle or on the outside corner at the same height has not been called.

33. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:47 PM (#2044447)

Schnooks Molina...Schnozz Molina?

34. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:48 PM (#2044451)

Wow Molina is slow. Wow.

35. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:48 PM (#2044452)

I missed Mruphy getting moved up to the Pawsox too.

36. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:50 PM (#2044459)

Don't worry Chip, the guys who sign the homeplate umps paychecks will straighten him out...oh, wait, never mind. They can't.

37. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:50 PM (#2044460)

What's up with that?

They showed a close-up of Lowell and he was shaking his head like he just ###### up. He made the play as well as anyone could.

Is Lowell one of these guys like O'Neill who's always down on himself?

38. Slide-Piece Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:52 PM (#2044464)

Pauley probably gives you guys a better chance than Wells would against Toronto anyways. The Jays are at .340/.394/.527 against lefties this year, and have always hit Wells really well (at least from my memory). What's the scouting report on Pauley?

39. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:53 PM (#2044474)

Close calls not going our way tonight

40. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:54 PM (#2044482)

Is Lowell one of these guys like O'Neill who's always down on himself?

That's actually what I heard.

And how the f*ck is Reed Johnson hitting .347 or whatever? Shades of the '51 Giants?

41. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:55 PM (#2044485)

He's considered a B/C prospect right now. As of today, best hopes for him are back-of-the-rotation or servicable reliever.

But he's made a major stride forward since last year. If he takes another stride forward, he's a legit prospect. He has OK stuff and OK command. But he's never going to blow away the radar guns.

42. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:55 PM (#2044491)

Chick on the right looks pretty good..

43. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:56 PM (#2044492)

Who the hell would wanna smell like that ugly bast@rd?

44. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:57 PM (#2044494)

Boys...talk to me...

Is this Baltimore 2005 or are the Jays the real deal??

####### shift

45. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:57 PM (#2044497)

She's flat as a pancake, Phil.

46. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:58 PM (#2044502)

And how the f*ck is Reed Johnson hitting .347 or whatever? Shades of the '51 Giants?

You might have answered my last post with that...

47. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:58 PM (#2044504)

Don't worry Chip, the guys who sign the homeplate umps paychecks will straighten him out...oh, wait, never mind. They can't.

Not can't. Won't. Spending money on building and maintaining consistent, high-quality umpiring (including spending high-level supervisory attention on it) is part of MLB's consistent penny-wise, pound-foolish approach to their collective expenditures. Perfectly in keeping with the way they've run the Expos/Nationals in recent years.

48. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 07:59 PM (#2044506)

I think the Jays are a lot better than the '05 O's.

49. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:00 PM (#2044510)

mannys angry

50. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:00 PM (#2044512)

Jays are pretty good, Phil. They have a legit closer this year.

51. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:01 PM (#2044515)

She's flat as a pancake, Phil.

How can you tell with those 'right to play' shirts on???

52. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:01 PM (#2044516)

Put the ####### camera back on the ####### field, you douchbags! Enough of this boring interview.

53. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:02 PM (#2044521)

How can you tell with those 'right to play' shirts on???

Practice.

54. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:04 PM (#2044529)

Jays are pretty good, Phil. They have a legit closer this year.

I know, I just think some of their players are a little 'too hot' at the moment.

Long way to go anyway, injuries can be a #####

55. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:04 PM (#2044532)

So much for best record in the AL. Detroit rolling over like dogs for the Yankees again.

56. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:04 PM (#2044536)

The leauge sent out a memo to the umps saying they wanted a return to the rule book strike zone a few years back, and the umps told them to go f*ck themselves, more or less.

57. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:05 PM (#2044537)

You have got to be ####### kidding me.

58. Fly's New Handle Was Too Long, But Clever Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:05 PM (#2044538)

####.

Also, duck breast, seared and then cooked to medium, is one of life's finest pleasures.

59. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:05 PM (#2044539)

####### Wells are you ####### kidding me,this guy like WJ saidis a ####### joke right now

60. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:06 PM (#2044540)

Time to "move his feet."

61. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:06 PM (#2044544)

That sucked.

Wells can hit a little.

62. Slide-Piece Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:06 PM (#2044545)

Johnson's average is a huge fluke. He's always been wicked against lefties, but somehow he's putting up .408 .482 .571 1.053 against righties this year (and his PAs have been about even between lefties/righties). If the platoon continues he should be right around .300 when it's said and done...very solid player.

63. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:07 PM (#2044548)

Good to see Detroit are playing about as good as I ####### thought they were.

64. Chip Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:08 PM (#2044552)

The leauge sent out a memo to the umps saying they wanted a return to the rule book strike zone a few years back, and the umps told them to go f*ck themselves, more or less.

The surest sign of bad management is thinking that sending a memo means you're doing something.

65. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:09 PM (#2044557)

Wells actualy is not really all that good. He's only had one impressive year as a hitter. He just kills us.

66. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:09 PM (#2044558)

Agree, Memos suck

67. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:09 PM (#2044560)

You mean pre-Questec or post-Questec?

68. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:11 PM (#2044564)

Don't throw this douche a strike.

69. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:12 PM (#2044572)

Wells actualy is not really all that good. He's only had one impressive year as a hitter. He just kills us

He's the 06 Catalanatto

70. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:12 PM (#2044573)

That was a nasty slider.

71. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:13 PM (#2044575)

The surest sign of a bad bunch of employees is when their employers make a reasonable request that's rudely tossed back into their faces. Memo, letter what's the difff.?

I had no problem with Questec. F*ck 'em. The umps are not the custodians of the game, it is not up to them how the zone should be defined.

72. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:13 PM (#2044577)

This sounds gay but I just love seeing footage of people at the ballpark with their kids, having a great time.

73. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:14 PM (#2044580)

Well said, teddy.

74. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:15 PM (#2044582)

Don't say that Phil, you'll get denounced!

75. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:17 PM (#2044587)

Think Tek is snapping out of it?

76. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:19 PM (#2044596)

Why thank you, kevin.

Eric Gregg, 500 pounds and repeatedly calling balls 18 inches off the plate strikes in the 97 series on national TV-it was embarassing and MLB tries to fix it, and the umps said-what's in it for us? I lost a lot of respect for them. Umpiring is a noble profession though...

77. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:21 PM (#2044603)

TAKE!

78. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:22 PM (#2044606)

I hope so. He can't drive he ball though...we'll see.

As long as the NYY's don't sign Roger, I don't care, BTW.

79. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:24 PM (#2044610)

I would have preferred to have Loretta up in that situation.

80. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:25 PM (#2044612)

Chacin is ####### blessed

81. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:25 PM (#2044615)

Dammit.

82. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:26 PM (#2044618)

Shea again. Prick.

83. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:27 PM (#2044621)

Molina runs like he has a big turd holding him back

84. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:28 PM (#2044626)

Is Molina hurt? He ran like he was barefoot on broken glass.

85. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:29 PM (#2044627)

Beckett is not all there tonight

86. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:29 PM (#2044631)

I'd like to thinkthat Beckett's performance here is just a random result in the middle of a solid season.

87. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:30 PM (#2044634)

What's the Jays record vs. the Yankees this year??

88. badpunstrkagain Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:31 PM (#2044636)

"# is p Posted: May 30, 2006 at 03:09 PM (#2044068)
are they really such a young team?
# RB in NYC (Now with College Diploma!) Posted: May 30, 2006 at 04:49 PM (#2044179)
Well, compared to the Yankees and Sox, yeah. Not on the whole, really. "

Glaus, Molina, Wells, Pete Walker,McDonald,Lily, Zaun-those are some of the "older players"-however,
Chacin, Rios, Hill, Adams were all rookies last year. That's a lot youngns starting. Reed Johnson, Cattalanto I think are right there in the middle...

89. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:31 PM (#2044637)

We have no luck at all tonight, no chance for a double play.

Sometimes the coin rolls the other way.

Exception to the rule - Vernon Wells

90. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:32 PM (#2044643)

Now a slow ####### roller on this piece of #### surface, jesus ####### christ!!!

91. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:34 PM (#2044647)

That was a smart play by Gonzalez though. He almost got an out out of that.

92. badpunstrkagain Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:36 PM (#2044655)

IT's a travesty Rios won't make the all-star team. Because of the balloting and the Jays doing "outfield by commitee" to start the season you have to write him in. The player with the highest AVG in the majors not making the all star team? wtf?

93. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:36 PM (#2044656)

Let's see how they handle Wells this time.

94. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:37 PM (#2044658)

Why do people boo when the "Let's Go Red Sox" chants starts in their home park? Why not drown it out with with "Let's Go Blue Jays!"?

95. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:38 PM (#2044659)

IT's a travesty Rios won't make the all-star team. Because of the balloting and the Jays doing "outfield by commitee" to start the season you have to write him in. The player with the highest AVG in the majors not making the all star team? wtf?

I'll write him in

Beckett did well there

96. tfbg9 Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:39 PM (#2044663)

Did they just say that Mark Clear (remember him kevin?) had 6 relief wins in May 1981? That's hard to do.

97. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:41 PM (#2044667)

Let's see how they handle Wells this time.

Pretty Good

98. kevin Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:41 PM (#2044668)

Yeah, sure I remember him, teddy.

Heck, I remember Dick Radatz.

99. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:42 PM (#2044674)

Chacin Eau de Toilet

100. Fly's New Handle Was Too Long, But Clever Posted: May 30, 2006 at 08:42 PM (#2044675)

Mitch Williams went 2-0 in 4 relief appearances in the 1993 NLCS. That's got to be even harder to do.

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