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go cubs

Meatwad Posted: October 08, 2005 at 03:44 PM | 106 comment(s)
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1. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: October 08, 2005 at 06:39 PM (#1671450)

Go Cubs?

I'd like to see San Diego win one game, just because.

2. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 08, 2005 at 07:26 PM (#1671506)

Come on, they won like 80 of them. What are you talking about?

3. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 08, 2005 at 07:42 PM (#1671522)

Come on, they won like 80 of them. What are you talking about?

4. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 08, 2005 at 07:43 PM (#1671523)

16 minutes. Is that a record for the longest time between double posts?

5. Human Papelbon Virus Posted: October 08, 2005 at 07:55 PM (#1671534)

do games usually start at 11pm EST?

6. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 08, 2005 at 09:22 PM (#1671664)

Back in the day (1999) the Mets and Diamondbacks played an 11:05 ESPN game in the Division Series. It was the first Met playoff game in 11 years and Edgardo Alfonzo took Randy Johnson deep twice.

I haven't seen an 11 p.m. start since then.

7. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 08, 2005 at 09:52 PM (#1671704)

This isn't even a game; it's Padres take batting practice against Matt Mrris.

8. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 08, 2005 at 09:53 PM (#1671702)

This isn't even a game; it's Padres take batting practice against Matt Morris.

9. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 08, 2005 at 10:12 PM (#1671749)

16 minutes. Is that a record for the longest time between double posts?

Not even close. I've seen double posts over an hour apart.

10. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 10:19 PM (#1671772)

First pitch less than an hour away!

11. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 08, 2005 at 10:23 PM (#1671784)

Isn't it really going to be at more like 11:20?

12. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 10:35 PM (#1671799)

It'd be interesting if Ohio State-Penn State went five OTs and pushed it back to closer to midnight ET.

13. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 08, 2005 at 10:46 PM (#1671811)

They wouldn't really delay the start of the game, would they? Of course, joining it in-progress for a college football game might even be worse.

14. DTS Posted: October 08, 2005 at 10:47 PM (#1671814)

They wouldn't really delay the start of the game, would they? Of course, joining it in-progress for a college football game might even be worse.

I can think of few things that would upset me more.

15. rembini06 Posted: October 08, 2005 at 10:54 PM (#1671819)

do games usually start at 11pm EST?

I live in Indiana, so I'm obliged to point out that the game start time is 10pm EST and 11pm EDT.

16. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:03 PM (#1671833)

I don't know if they would have delayed the game, just guessing.

Miller & Morgan tonight.

17. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:11 PM (#1671837)

M&M;must be at least slightly exhausted, this time yesterday they were wrapping up the LAA-NYY game.

I had a dream last which involved the Cards being in a multiple inning game to the extent they had to use Pujols at 2B. Don't know what that means

18. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:12 PM (#1671838)

My simulator says St. Louis 4-1.

My simulator is always wrong, so I think San Diego takes it.

19. Human Papelbon Virus Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:18 PM (#1671843)

Pujols has had 2 months in his career with a sub-.800 OPS. I didn't realize he was any good.

20. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:38 PM (#1671849)

For anyone who watches the Cards more than I, is Yadier as ungodly slow as his brothers are?

21. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:38 PM (#1671850)

Eckstein continues his power hitting ways.

22. Anonymous Observer Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:39 PM (#1671851)

I like David Eckstein. He hits home runs for the Cardinals in the playoffs.

AO

23. Anonymous Observer Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:40 PM (#1671852)

For anyone who watches the Cards more than I, is Yadier as ungodly slow as his brothers are?

Yes he is.

AO

24. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:41 PM (#1671853)

Yadier is probably faster than Bengie, but not by much.

25. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:44 PM (#1671854)

How tempting must it be for the equipment manager to intentionally misspell Darren Balsley's name on the back of his jerseys?

26. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:44 PM (#1671855)

Reggie Sanders busts it open again.

27. Anonymous Observer Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:46 PM (#1671856)

I'm very glad that the Cardinals are winning, but I hate that they're beating up on Woody Williams. He pitched very well as a redbird, and I've liked him since he did that.

AO

28. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:47 PM (#1671857)

I haven't seen Woody Williams pitch this badly in a postseason game since ... well, the last time he took the mound in a postseason game.

29. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:50 PM (#1671858)

And right now the Padres are going, "Why couldn't the Phillies have won the ####### wild card?"

30. DTS Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:52 PM (#1671859)

Yadier is probably faster than Bengie, but not by much.

Only because he's several years younger.

I haven't seen Woody Williams pitch this badly in a postseason game since ..

But Morgan keeps saying Woody's throwing well. He's having a great day.

31. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:53 PM (#1671860)

5-0 with Morris on the mound is like 1-0.

32. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:54 PM (#1671861)

So if there's a Game 5, Angel Hernandez would be behind the plate? Pass.

Matt Morris is trying to keep the Padres in it.

33. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:55 PM (#1671863)

So, if the Cardinals do manage to win this series, Tony's not going to be dumb enough to forfeit a game in the NLCS too, is he?

34. DTS Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:55 PM (#1671864)

Morris walked two in a row after walking just 37 in 190+ innings. What's up with that?

35. DTS Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:56 PM (#1671865)

Morris walked two in a row after walking just 37 in 190+ innings. What's up with that?

36. DTS Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:57 PM (#1671866)

Time for some more double plays I guess.

37. Urban Faber Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:58 PM (#1671867)

He got a little rattled after Dreckman's interesting interpretation of the strike zone. But Fick got him off the hook for the first out.

38. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 08, 2005 at 11:58 PM (#1671868)

Angel Hernandez or Vaux, which is more incapable of setting aside his hatred of the Cardinals for the sake of rational thought?

39. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:00 AM (#1671869)

So much for those walks.

40. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:02 AM (#1671870)

I love it, I love it...

41. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:12 AM (#1671872)

Brian Lawrence still has a beautiful slider, how did he suck so much this year?

42. Sam M. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:17 AM (#1671876)

Note: If/when the Padres lose this game, they will be the first team in major league history to make the post-season and finish with an overall losing record (82-83).

43. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:20 AM (#1671877)

The 1981 Royals would argue that.

But in a real season, yes.

44. DTS Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:21 AM (#1671878)

Morris is spinning a no hitter. I'm not afraid of jinxes.

45. villainx Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:21 AM (#1671879)

Sam, 82-83 kind of takes out all the meaning of 'if' in your note.

Let's go Padres!

46. Sam M. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:23 AM (#1671881)

The 1981 Royals would argue that.

Oh, yeah. Forgot about that farce.

47. DTS Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:25 AM (#1671883)

In 1981, they had an NLDS and ALDS. When tabulating the very impressive records for the DS's, so they include '81 numbers? Probably not.

48. Sam M. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:27 AM (#1671886)

Sam, 82-83 kind of takes out all the meaning of 'if' in your note.

There's only two ways they can finish with a losing record. They either lose tonight, which leaves them 82-83. If they win tonight and go on to lose the series, the worst they can finish is .500. That's why I named the exact record -- IF they finish with a losing record, that's what it's gonna be.

Unless . . . . there is this: (in theory) they could rally to win the series, bringing their overall record to 85-82. Then they could get swept in the NLCS, finishing 85-86.

Now, that would be a hoot.

49. DTS Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:27 AM (#1671887)

No hitter through 4.

50. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:28 AM (#1671889)

I suppose they do, but I don't seem to hear much about it, other than that the Astros were the first team to lose a 5-game series after losing the first two.

I wonder how many guys were still around in the mid-'90s who played in the '81 division series. Off the top of my head, Tim Raines would be one.

51. Srul Itza At Home Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:33 AM (#1671892)

That trick never works.

52. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:35 AM (#1671894)

Touchdown!

53. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:35 AM (#1671895)

other than that the Astros were the first team to lose a 5-game series after losing the first two.

Were they really? I had never heard that. I know the A's were the first--and still only I think--team to lose a five-gamer after winning the first road on the road

54. Anonymous Observer Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:36 AM (#1671896)

That trick never works.

Sammy Sosa would disagree.

AO

55. Maltodextrin Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:39 AM (#1671897)

I'm pretty sure Rickey was in the 81 ALDS.

56. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:42 AM (#1671899)

Yes he was. Fernando was still around too, but with the Padres.

RB, you wouldn't have enjoyed the Yankees' series with the Brewers - won the first two in Milwaukee, but lost twice in the Bronx and fell behind in Game 5 also at home, but then won pretty big as I recall.

57. Sam M. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:43 AM (#1671900)

I wonder how many guys were still around in the mid-'90s who played in the '81 division series.

Let's see (I think I got them all who at least lasted to 1993):

NYY: Dave Righetti

MIL: Paul Molitor, Robin Yount

OAK: Rickey Henderson

KC: George Brett, Willie Wilson

MON: Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, Tim Wallach, Bill Gullickson, Scott Sanderson, Jeff Reardon

PHI: Lonnie Smith, Pete Rose*

LA: Steve Sax, Fernando Valenzuela, Bob Welch, Steve Howe, Dave Stewart, Alejandro Pena

HOU: Dickie Thon

* - Kidding. Just kidding.

58. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:46 AM (#1671901)

This one ain't over, folks...

59. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:46 AM (#1671902)

Here is the series to which Red alludes. Prior to 2001, the Brewers were, I think, the only team to even force a Game 5 having lost the first two at home. I don't doubt I would've enjoyed that series--Games One, Two and Five anyway--but the 2001 ALDS holds special meaning for me

60. Sam M. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:48 AM (#1671903)

Larry Walker is not graceful.

(My personal entry in the Understatement of the Year contest.)

61. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:49 AM (#1671904)

Morris will be out of there after this inning, probably, with a chance to clinch this thing.

62. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:51 AM (#1671905)

I don't doubt I would've enjoyed that series--Games One, Two and Five anyway

The Game Chatters would have been fun though, with Winfield in the role of A-Rod ...

63. Maltodextrin Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:51 AM (#1671906)

Nolan Ryan, Astros.

64. Srul Itza At Home Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:52 AM (#1671908)

So are people going to be saying Tony pulled him one batter too late?

65. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:53 AM (#1671910)

The Game Chatters would have been fun though, with Winfield in the role of A-Rod ...

Let me tell you, if the Yankees won the first two on the road, and then lost two in a row at home to force a fifth game on the road, the Game Chatter would be ugly. U-G-L-Y, ugly.

66. Srul Itza At Home Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:56 AM (#1671912)

I guess not.

67. Maltodextrin Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:56 AM (#1671914)

I don't understand how Klesko could swing at that pitch.

68. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 12:58 AM (#1671915)

And now begins the LaRussa mass substitution portion of the game.

69. Srul Itza At Home Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:00 AM (#1671917)

Damn, that man is strong and good.

70. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:12 AM (#1671921)

Got my hopes up with a leadoff single by Hernandez on an 0-2 pitch. Then Loretta nearly hit into a DP. That would have been par for the course.

71. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:27 AM (#1671923)

I don't think God Bless America has been sung during the seventh-inning stretch at PETCO this season. The crowd, not realizing how most singers are performing the song these days, burst into a full cheer before the singer could reprise the last three lines.

(And, on the radio broadcast, Ted Leitner referred to the song as "the National Anthem." C'mon, Ted, get your head in the game.)

72. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:30 AM (#1671924)

Leitner bemoaning TLR's mandatory LOOGY deployment for Giles. In defense of TLR, it was time for Morris to come out.

73. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:35 AM (#1671925)

7-3 Cardinals after seven. Roberts homered in the seventh to bring the Padres to within four.

Gosh, it's quiet in here ...

74. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:37 AM (#1671926)

Will Bochy have Hoffman pitch the ninth?

75. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:37 AM (#1671927)

I hope Bochy brings in Hoffman. I can only assume he deserves a last ovation from the San Diego faithful this season

76. The Mexicoan George Jefferson(Sheriff Blalock) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:38 AM (#1671928)

I thought it would be pretty active in here.

Woo hoo Cards!!

77. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:47 AM (#1671931)

Hoffman is warming up in the bottom of the eighth.

This could be his last appearance as a Padre — he's a free agent after the season.

78. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:50 AM (#1671932)

These solo homers are great, but we're running out of time for them to help us win the game.

79. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:51 AM (#1671933)

There's no way this team beats Houston with this bullpen. The games will be close late with Houston's starters, which is a recipie for disaster.

80. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:54 AM (#1671935)

Well, I guess the Cards may as well let Isringhausen blow it.

81. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:55 AM (#1671936)

Isringhausen in to face Randa with two out and a runner on first in the bottom of the eighth. Julian Tavarez gave up a homer to Ramon Hernandez and a bloop single to Khalil Greene in his third of an inning of work.

82. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:56 AM (#1671937)

Randa flies to John F. Mabry. Ah well.

83. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 01:59 AM (#1671939)

Good for Bruce, I like this

84. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:05 AM (#1671941)

Is Hoffamn really going to sign somewhere else? Much as I love Flash Gordon--and I do--it would hardly pain me to see Trevor setting up for Rivera

85. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:06 AM (#1671942)

I'd love to see Trevor strike out one more batter with his classic pitch sequence: first-pitch fastball for a called strike, a changeup that the batter misses by two feet, and then another changeup that the dude misses by three feet.

... No strikeouts, but a scoreless inning is a good note to go out on.

86. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:10 AM (#1671949)

it would hardly pain me to see Trevor setting up for Rivera

Well, I'd lose my teeth because I'd be vomiting all the time. That would suck worse than Charybdis. (See, it's such a bad thing I have to go back into classical literature for a suitable simile.)

87. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:12 AM (#1671951)

Wow, that curve was ridiculous.

88. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:13 AM (#1671952)

I officially want the Padres to lose this game after hearing the stadium play that annoying song.

89. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:13 AM (#1671953)

Tying run coming to the plate with one out! Giles, then perhaps Klesko — two lefties against Isringhausen.

I know they're just teasing us.

90. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:13 AM (#1671954)

That wasn't a swing.

91. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:14 AM (#1671955)

I think that curve was strike 3, though.

92. The Mexicoan George Jefferson(Sheriff Blalock) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:14 AM (#1671956)

But that was a strike.

93. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:15 AM (#1671957)

It would be sort of cool if Giles tied it here.

94. Urban Faber Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:15 AM (#1671959)

So this game has pretty much followed the pattern of the first two in this series.

95. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:15 AM (#1671960)

Full count. [Teeth chatter]

96. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:17 AM (#1671962)

Strike three looking?!! Damn, Giles!

97. The Mexicoan George Jefferson(Sheriff Blalock) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:18 AM (#1671963)

ALLRIGHT!!!!!!

98. The Mexicoan George Jefferson(Sheriff Blalock) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:19 AM (#1671964)

ALLRIGHT!!!!!!

99. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:22 AM (#1671967)

Congrats to Cards fans and condolences to Padres' fans, I know how profoundly empty the feeling of losing is

100. _Jed Posted: October 09, 2005 at 02:23 AM (#1671968)

And a comebacker ends it. Congratulations, Cardinal fans. Now you have to play a really good team to reach the Series.

Relax, Vaux. The Cards beat the Astros 11 of 14 before the last two-game series. The Astros won the last two (after the Cards clinched) because they were playing for their baseball lives. The Astros haven't even made it to the next series yet.

You've got a fine ballclub there. Astros-Cardinals would be a terrific series.

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