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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Chicago Cubs (81-50) @ Pittsburgh Pirates (57-74), Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 7:05pm on WGN

CHC: Carlos Zambrano (27, RHP, 13-5, 3.29)
PIT: Ian Snell (26, RHP, 5-10, 5.60)

NTNgod Posted: August 26, 2008 at 07:24 PM | 286 comment(s)
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201. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:06 PM (#2917647)

The Pirates haven't had a 1-2-3 inning, have they?

202. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:06 PM (#2917650)

What happened in the dugout? I can't see the TV from here.

203. Tike Redman's Shattered Dreams (shayborg) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:07 PM (#2917653)

Why the hell is McLouth bunting???

204. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:07 PM (#2917654)

The Pirates haven't had a 1-2-3 inning, have they?

Neither team has

205. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:07 PM (#2917655)

Haha. This is such an ugly game.

206. SteveM. Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:08 PM (#2917657)

The Pirates as a team don't seem to be very smart. That was just plain stupid by Morgan.

207. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:09 PM (#2917662)

Sean Marshall? Brilliant. Oh wait, you used Samardzija and Gaudin as well? Are you drunk?

208. Tike Redman's Shattered Dreams (shayborg) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:10 PM (#2917664)

The Pirates as a team don't seem to be very smart. That was just plain stupid by Morgan.

Morgan is just an idiot. He overslides the bag quite literally every freaking time he tries to steal.

209. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:11 PM (#2917667)

I have this gut feeling based on memory (which may be terrible) that the Cubs have been putrid in Thursday afternoon "getaway day" games this year. Both home and road.

6-6 record, outscored 62-55. Probably easily the worst set of games for a team 31 games over and outscoring their opponents by over 100 runs.

Included in this dreck, which is what made my memories worse than the reality, were losses of 9-2, 11-4, and 8-3. Also, one of those games was a 4-3 loss at home to the Brewers where Woody blew a 3-1 9th inning lead.

The 11-4 win over the Brewers that completed the 4-game sweep, where TOFU hit two HR's and Gagne got ejected for throwing behind him, was also a Thursday afternoon tilt. So we got that going for us.

210. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:11 PM (#2917668)

This is also infuriatingly slow. A normal nine inning game is over by now. I should be in bed, but I know myself. I won’t be able to sleep soundly until I know the score.

211. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:14 PM (#2917681)

Mighty Mouse really knocked the crap out of that one.

212. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:15 PM (#2917684)

Probably easily the worst set of games for a team 31 games over and outscoring their opponents by over 100 runs.

184 runs for those counting at home.

Yes! Craig "Gasoline" Hansen!

213. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:16 PM (#2917688)

Baserunner! BTW, I know that Fontenot is short, but did anybody see that video from the Cubs bowling night? I really hope that Fontenot was sitting while they talked to him.

214. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:18 PM (#2917692)

Moss in the outfield: "Is he allowed to take more than one base on a single? Really? Huh."

215. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:19 PM (#2917700)

Coming out of college, Hansen had the vaunted 80 rating on his slider. I wonder what happened to him?

216. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM (#2917702)

Uh oh. D(play) Lee with the bases packed and nobody out.

217. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM (#2917703)

Let's go Derrek. Imagine it's Rafael Furcal's face coming at you here. Failing that, imagine you're Furcal, and the ball is your wife.

218. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM (#2917705)

Lee's coming through here. I can feel it.

219. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:21 PM (#2917706)

Failing that, imagine you're Furcal, and the ball is your wife.

220. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:21 PM (#2917708)

Audible groan from Brenly.

221. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:22 PM (#2917710)

That was a meatball.

222. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:23 PM (#2917712)

This is just the game for a bases loaded walk, isn’t it? Then again I haven’t seen a bases loaded balk since Wells opened the season against Randy Johnson a few years ago. So, can I have one of those?

223. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:23 PM (#2917716)

Thanks Craig!!

224. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:23 PM (#2917717)

Nice.

225. SteveM. Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:24 PM (#2917719)

This is such a weird game. Lee tying the game on a base-loaded walk.

226. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:24 PM (#2917722)

Aramis is going to kill one of those grooved fastballs.

227. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:25 PM (#2917726)

Chances that ARam doesn't clear the bases, facing the Pirates (who he owns), late w/RISP, and a horrid pitcher on the mound?

228. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:25 PM (#2917727)

Okay, not that rare, but I like the run.

229. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:26 PM (#2917731)

I told you guys Craig Hansen sucked.

230. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:26 PM (#2917734)

Never mind. I didn't know that Hansen was going to need a Garmin to find the strike zone.

231. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:26 PM (#2917735)

Only the Pirates.

The way things have gone, I won't feel comfortable until they hit a grand slam.

232. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM (#2917737)

I wonder how glad Aramis must feel every time he plays the Pirates. Elation that he is on the other team.

233. SteveM. Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM (#2917738)

Wow. So the Pirates traded Jason Bay for Moss(who seemingly can't play defense) and Hanson. That is just sad.

234. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM (#2917740)

Oh, and it's amusing to see the Cubs kill a team via the walk.

235. Stevis Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM (#2917746)

Someone was asking about record by TV outlet--Bleed Cubbie Blue has it on the left hand sidebar.

236. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM (#2917748)

I wonder how glad Aramis must feel every time he plays the Pirates. Elation that he is on the other team.

The Cub website has a feature about how Aramis gets boo-ed in Pittsburgh.

237. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:29 PM (#2917753)

I wonder how glad Aramis must feel every time he plays the Pirates. Elation that he is on the other team.

It would probably be like running into an ex at the store and seeing that she's gained about 30 pounds after you've gotten a promotion and a hot new GF.

238. SteveM. Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:29 PM (#2917754)

And you bring in a lefty to face Johnson. Is Russell alive in the Pirates dugout?

239. isaacc7 Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:30 PM (#2917756)

Thanks! As I thought, they have not done very well on WGN. Before tonight just 26-24...

240. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:31 PM (#2917762)

Good timing by Quade, the one good play Moss has made all day, and he held the runner.

241. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:32 PM (#2917763)

Does anyone else get "'99 Cubs" vibes watching the Pirates?

242. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:32 PM (#2917765)

Heinrich can't deliver.

243. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:33 PM (#2917766)

This is not only still a regulation game. We’re only in the 8th.

244. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM (#2917771)

Time for the Don to try to cap this farce of an inning.

245. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:36 PM (#2917778)

THE DON!

246. SteveM. Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:36 PM (#2917780)

Good God. 7 RBI's for Geo! ROY! ROY!

247. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:36 PM (#2917782)

I was just saying how disappointing this would be to only get 3 runs this inning.

DON ####### GEOVANY

248. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:36 PM (#2917785)

Look at the mass exodus of Pirates fans in the background. :)

249. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:37 PM (#2917788)

Jair who?

250. Moses Taylor didn't fall far from the awesome tree Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:37 PM (#2917790)

What a game.

251. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM (#2917796)

BPJesus, how can you tell? All I’ve seen all game were empty seats.

252. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM (#2917797)

Okay, I'm thinking this one is now in the bag.

253. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:39 PM (#2917799)

FonteINDEED!

254. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:40 PM (#2917805)

Not even Howry can blow that one.

255. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:40 PM (#2917807)

Soto is now on pace for almost exactly 100 RBI. I'm betting that would be a first for a rookie catcher.

256. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:41 PM (#2917808)

This is our 17th game vs. the Pirates this year. We've scored 129 runs so far in those games.

No further comment necessary.

257. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:45 PM (#2917829)

BPJesus, except that that means that the Pirates allowed all of 586 runs in the other 114 games. Which is still really bad, but not that bad.

258. SteveM. Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:48 PM (#2917851)

Such a beautiful stadium and so few people. Is their hope for the Pirates?

259. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:49 PM (#2917854)

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1128603,mariotti082708.article

Kudos to NSBB on pointing this out to me.

260. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:51 PM (#2917870)

We've also now scored in double digits 18 times. 6 of those against Pittsburgh.

Pirates vs. Cubs: 7.59 RPG
Pirates vs. Everyone Else: 5.14 RPG

If the Cubs faced the Pirates over 162 games using those numbers, they would score 1229 runs.

261. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:52 PM (#2917872)

Matt Capps looks like he's about 400 pounds in his Yahoo picture.

262. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:54 PM (#2917882)

Ryan, Capps is not exactly svelte on TV.

263. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:55 PM (#2917887)

I understood Wood pitching last night. Why is he pitching tonight?

264. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:55 PM (#2917888)

I'd rather have Howry here, but didn't expect it.

265. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:56 PM (#2917892)

Looks like this is going to be a well deserved win for Marshall. I do maintain, however, that neither he, nor Gaudin or Cotts should have pitched in this game.

266. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:58 PM (#2917897)

It's possible Lou has boosted the new closer save to 6 runs(from 4) with the setup man save moving to 7-8(from 5-6)

I sure as hell hope not, but who knows.

267. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:59 PM (#2917901)

This is the game that never ends....

The problem with going to Wood and not Howry here is that is Howry shits the bed, you can always turn to Wood to come into the save situ. If Woody has no stuff tonight, WHiP is the last line of defense.

This is also the problem with pulling BPJ in the 5th, as others have pointed out.

268. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 10:59 PM (#2917903)

Wood had better shut it down or Lou will be forced to bring in the closer if we get into save territory.

269. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:00 PM (#2917904)

That’s just what we need. Give up a run or two, load the bases. See if I care.

270. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:01 PM (#2917909)

In other NL Central playoff contender news, the Astros got nipped by the Reds tonight. Big news for the Cubs.

271. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:01 PM (#2917910)

I just want the game to be over. It's been fun at certain parts, but overall, it's been a chore to sit through.

272. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:03 PM (#2917914)

I just want the game to be over. It's been fun at certain parts, but overall, it's been a chore to sit through.

This is like "fan spring training" for the 5-hour FOX playoff games.

273. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:03 PM (#2917915)

Broken record: Who cares about instant replay? Instant replay wouldn’t have made this game one second longer. This game is taking way too long without any help. 4 hours in a nine inning game? Silliness.

274. SteveM. Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:04 PM (#2917916)

Finally. What a weird game.

275. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:04 PM (#2917917)

The Game that Would Not End is over! Cubs win! 32 over!

276. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM (#2917918)

Surely with De Sad going tomorrow, we won't be in a close game late where we need our closer. Might as well throw him here.

277. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM (#2917919)

Not pretty, but a W is a W.

26.

278. CFiJ Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM (#2917920)

Man, that was like a Baseball Stars game...

279. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM (#2917922)

Four hours. 32 games over. Let's keep going.

280. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM (#2917923)

I almost don’t want to say it: We’re less than 30 minutes away from the record for the longest NL 9 inning contest (4h 27m, 10-05-2001, LA @ SF)

281. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM (#2917924)

Oh, by the way -- Carl, are you really watching this game at 5 in the morning?

282. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:06 PM (#2917931)

W! Night all. I will miss tomorrows game, so I’ll see you when I see you. Tough game, good Chatter.

283. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:07 PM (#2917935)

32!!

26!!

22!!

284. Carl Spongberg Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:08 PM (#2917939)

SdeB: I wouldn’t have been able to fall asleep without knowing the result. If the game ends around three I get enough sleep. Now I won’t. I’ll survive.

One last jab at the awful Pirates announcers: They called “Go Cubs Go!” an awful song.

285. NTNgod Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:12 PM (#2917966)

They called “Go Cubs Go!” an awful song.

It's not exactly Steve Goodman's finest composition. "City of New Orleans", "You Never Even Called Me By My Name", sure.

286. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: August 26, 2008 at 11:14 PM (#2917975)

One last jab at the awful Pirates announcers: They called “Go Cubs Go!” an awful song.

Well...

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