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Wednesday, October 03, 2007

Chicago Cubs (85-77) @ Arizona Diamondbacks (90-72), Wednesday, October 3, 2007, 10:00pm

CHC: Carlos Zambrano (26, RHP, 18-13, 3.95)
ARI: Brandon Webb (28, RHP, 18-10, 3.01)

The Primer Chimp Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:00 AM | 382 comment(s)
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1. Weeks T. Olive Posted: October 03, 2007 at 11:12 AM (#2557483)

Today is a great day, because it's October and the Cubs are playing baseball.

2. Moses Taylor didn't fall far from the awesome tree Posted: October 03, 2007 at 11:28 AM (#2557519)

Might as well get in some streaking before lunch, just in case my nudity actually has something to do with the Cubs luck.

3. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: October 03, 2007 at 11:52 AM (#2557570)

Wise move.

4. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 12:29 PM (#2557645)

October baseball... Carlos Zambrano vs. Brandon Webb...

awesome

5. Moses Taylor didn't fall far from the awesome tree Posted: October 03, 2007 at 12:56 PM (#2557707)

And there'll be post lunch streaking, and commute home streaking, pre and post dinner streaking, national anthem streaking, etc.

Basically, at any given moment, I'm definitely more likely to be naked than clothed.

6. Cabbage Posted: October 03, 2007 at 01:24 PM (#2557754)

I've got a legal writing paper due tomorrow afternoon. I need to finish by 9pm. My research is mostly done, and I'm just about through an outline. I hope I can crank out ~3200 words +editing+ bluebook nonsense by 9pm.

In other words, I'm leaving the streaking to Moses.

7. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 01:27 PM (#2557759)

In other words, I'm leaving the streaking to Moses.

If you're not going to be streaking then it behooves you to compose your paper in your birthday suit at the law school.

8. Neil M Posted: October 03, 2007 at 01:32 PM (#2557769)

Basically, at any given moment, I'm definitely more likely to be naked than clothed.

Too bad. For a moment I thought we had a far more interesting alternative to Schroedinger's Cat. (I might still release the gas on the off-chance).

9. Neil M Posted: October 03, 2007 at 03:52 PM (#2558093)

Happy camper time -

Everything I read persuaded me that my mlb.tv subscription was only good for the regular season. To see post season action I would have to cough up another $25 aas an international subscriber. Twice I tried to pay up and twice I was rejected. Now I'm watching the Rox vs. the Phils, no extra expense incurred. I'm happy. Off for a few hours' beauty sleep prior to the real deal (3 a.m. my time).

10. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 04:32 PM (#2558183)

Off for a few hours' beauty sleep prior to the real deal (3 a.m. my time).

...and I was complaining about the 10 Eastern start time.

11. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 03, 2007 at 05:54 PM (#2558368)

I'll be a wreck tomorrow, but I know I won't be able to sleep while the game is still going.

I'm sort of surprised by the prevailing thought that the Cubs are going to take this series given their inexplicable failures historically in Arizona. That said, I'll play Mr. Optimism and say the Cubs in four. If they win tonight, it'll take some damn fine choking not to win the series.

12. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 06:09 PM (#2558397)

I'm not going to watch any more baseball this year but I am rooting for the Cubs.

13. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 08:15 PM (#2558753)

I'm sure everybody knows this already but Colorado beat the Phillies with Cole Hamels on the mound. I can't decide which of the two teams is better.

14. Moses Taylor didn't fall far from the awesome tree Posted: October 03, 2007 at 08:22 PM (#2558789)

I cannot believe I'm still at work. Time to streak my way through the parking lot and all the way home.

15. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:14 PM (#2558965)

I know that Zambrano is a great pitcher, but I really like the Mets' chances tonight.

16. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:17 PM (#2558966)

First day of MLB Playoffs: Great Day or the Greatest Day?

17. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:18 PM (#2558967)

Is the Diamondbacks' lineup the worst playoff lineup ever? Augie Ojeda? Jeff Salazar? Tony Clark?

I mean, seriously.

18. Neil M Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:21 PM (#2558971)

<yawn>

19. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:24 PM (#2558976)

I know that Zambrano is a great pitcher, but I really like the Mets' chances tonight.

Well, they won't lose, so that's something.

Eighteen posts 45 minutes before first pitch? I hope you all are just saving them for the game.

Lineups:

Soriano
Jones
Lee
Ramirez
Floyd
DeRosa
Soto
Theriot
Zambrano

Young
Drew
Byrnes
Clark
Reynolds
Salazar
Snyder
Ojeda
Webb

***

OK, my fearless predictions were pretty much right on last Friday, so much so that I'm nervous making one now, but here goes nothing:

Cubs 3, D'backs 2.

Mornin', Neil. How'd you sleep?

20. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:29 PM (#2558984)

I'm taking this one in on radio. I thought about going to a sports bar with wifi but my living room is so much more comfortable. Hell, it's still 70 degrees outside, maybe I should do the back patio.

21. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:31 PM (#2558987)

Hey, are we SURE the Mets aren't playing? Ron Darling is one of the announcers.

I KNEW that was all a bad dream.

22. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:31 PM (#2558991)

Hey Ron Darling!

23. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:34 PM (#2558997)

The one thing about radio is at least I get Hughes.

24. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:35 PM (#2559000)

The Mets aren't playing Lassus. And It's my fault. Y'see, I was being a greedy bastard, and during a game in Baltimore and a Foul ball was coming right at me (I was going to give it to a kid), but a guy in a Mets hat basically pushed me to the ground and grabbed the ball. And I was going to give it a kid too! So I cursed the Mets right there. In hindsight, perhaps not the best thing, and I'd like to take it back, but you know how long Baseball curses last....

25. Gold Star for Robothal Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:40 PM (#2559007)

Clint Hurdle seems like your nice, cool, dumb as a rock uncle.

26. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:43 PM (#2559010)

This padded schedule needs to go. I've had an assful of sitting around and waiting for games.

27. Neil M Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:44 PM (#2559011)

Mornin', Neil. How'd you sleep?

Yo, Sweet. Hardly slept at all. Probably turned in a little too early.

I tuned into Channel 5, which is providing play-off coverage here. They are in the 2nd inning of a tape-delay from Fenway. ####### pathetic. Not even live.

28. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:47 PM (#2559015)

How and why does Craig Sager have a job? I mean, it's a freakin' crime.

29. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2007 at 09:51 PM (#2559020)

Just read in the USA Today about how TBS has a set-up for Cal Ripken to take swings against the pitches from games. Have they used it yet? because I haven't seen it...

30. JJ1986 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:02 PM (#2559031)

Dick Stockton. Ugh. I don't care who wins this series, I like both teams, but it's pretty evenly matched and interesting.

31. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:03 PM (#2559032)

Cubs

32. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:03 PM (#2559033)

You heard it from Dick Stockton: Carlos Zambrano's best season.

33. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:04 PM (#2559034)

I want tonight's winner to sweep the series just for the sake of getting Dick Stockton off the stage.

34. Urban Faber Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:06 PM (#2559035)

You heard it from Dick Stockton: Carlos Zambrano's best season.

That's surprising ... that he didn't call him Victor, I mean.

35. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:08 PM (#2559036)

You heard it from Dick Stockton: Carlos Zambrano's best season.

Career high in wins!

Soriano on the first pitch trying to pull Webb...

36. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:08 PM (#2559038)

Eh.

Basically, you shouldn't swing at anything that looks like a strike coming out of Brandon Webb's hand. 90% of them end up beneath the zone. It must be so hard to lay off.

37. Gold Star for Robothal Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:08 PM (#2559039)

Oh, the Cubs are gonna win. That D-Backs lineup is so weak.

38. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:11 PM (#2559043)

Wicked pitch there. It looked like it moved about six different ways.

39. JJ1986 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:12 PM (#2559044)

Webb's stuff is moving well so far. Really well.

40. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:12 PM (#2559045)

Is it just me, or has Derek Lee been kind of a bummer this year?

41. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:14 PM (#2559047)

Is it just me, or has Derek Lee been kind of a bummer this year?

It might not be just you, but it isn't me.

42. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:16 PM (#2559048)

Carlos is throwing low 90's so far...

43. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:17 PM (#2559049)

I like the way Zambrano's throwing early. Pounding the zone.

44. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:18 PM (#2559050)

I didn't like that first pitch to Byrnes. That leg-kick follow through is no good.

He did it again on the second pitch -- falling away to first.

45. H_Vaughn08 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:19 PM (#2559051)

Well, that was an effective out pitch.

46. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:20 PM (#2559053)

Carlos is going to be in trouble if he keeps working this high in the zone.

47. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:21 PM (#2559054)

"Letter high" on that pitch? Whoa, is this Dick Stockton or Dick Endberg?

48. H_Vaughn08 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:22 PM (#2559055)

It's going to be the usual high pitch count Z outing. Who's first outta the pen tonight?

49. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:22 PM (#2559056)

Whew. Got through the first inning unscathed and on only 16 pitches. That's a good start for Z.

50. Kiko Sakata Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:24 PM (#2559059)

It's going to be the usual high pitch count Z outing. Who's first outta the pen tonight?

Piniella said he was going to try to limit Z to 100-105 pitches if possible. That'd get him to what - the 6th inning? No idea what order Lou'd use his relievers - probably depends on the score.

51. Neil M Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:24 PM (#2559060)

Stockton is in a strange little world of his own.

52. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:24 PM (#2559061)

Got through the first. Whew.

53. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:25 PM (#2559062)

Nice to get through that inning unscathed after a man on 2nd and no outs.

54. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:26 PM (#2559063)

Webb looks really, really good so far.

55. H_Vaughn08 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:26 PM (#2559064)

Attention Cub hitters, he throws a sinker.

56. H_Vaughn08 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:27 PM (#2559065)

Webb is great Pops, but I think they can reach this guy.

57. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:27 PM (#2559066)

"Will dicuss strike zone"?

58. Urban Faber Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:28 PM (#2559067)

TBS' picture seems to be hiccuping a bit at times.

59. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:29 PM (#2559068)

For me too, Urban.

60. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:29 PM (#2559069)

*sees Jason Kendall*

*snickers about Jerry Blevins*

61. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:30 PM (#2559070)

Dammit, Theriot.

62. Neil M Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:31 PM (#2559071)

Poor AB by Theriot.

63. frannyzoo Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:31 PM (#2559072)

Average Cub Fan : Baseball::

Average Super Bowl Party Attendee : Football

64. Scott Lange Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:31 PM (#2559074)

The hiccup is driving me nuts- Comcast HD in Atlanta, if that helps any. Is it Comcast-specific, or Atlanta-specific, or everyone?

65. AuntBea Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:32 PM (#2559075)

That was good. Instead of watching the ads, I saw the opening credits for Naruto.

66. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:32 PM (#2559076)

Nope, we're having problems in Indianapolis

67. Urban Faber Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:32 PM (#2559077)

I'm near Chicago, Scott. I thought maybe it was Comcast, though.

68. GIANTlhbASS Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:32 PM (#2559078)

I'm getting the hiccup in KC, direct TV.

69. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:32 PM (#2559079)

Time Warner HD in NYC, so I'm thinking it's TBS.

70. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:33 PM (#2559082)

The breaking stuff looks to be working for Carlos.

71. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:34 PM (#2559083)

What pitch is that -- the one he threw three times to Reynolds? It's slower than his normal slider, no?

72. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:34 PM (#2559084)

I'm having no problem on my regular 24-inch color cable. :D Are the hiccups in HD? Those must be INCREDIBLE.

73. H_Vaughn08 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:34 PM (#2559085)

Hiccup in East Lansing, MI. Comcast.

74. bunyon Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:36 PM (#2559088)

No hiccups on regular D in winston-salem, directv. You guys should drink a glass of water upside down.

75. AuntBea Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:36 PM (#2559091)

What's big Z's normal strike/ball ratio?

76. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:37 PM (#2559092)

28 pitches for Carlos & 24 for Webb through 2

77. H_Vaughn08 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:38 PM (#2559095)

What's big Z's normal strike/ball ratio?

It just seems like he goes 3-0 on everyone.

78. bonifacio's got the good face! Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:38 PM (#2559097)

no fly ball outs after 2--can we go the whole way with the ball on the ground?

79. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:38 PM (#2559098)

Regular comcast in Philly, no probs.

80. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:39 PM (#2559099)

I don't know his ball/strike ratio but he walked 101 in 216.3 innings this year.

81. Kiko Sakata Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:39 PM (#2559101)

What's big Z's normal strike/ball ratio?

BB-Ref says 61% strikes this year, 60-62% strikes in general the last few years. He's pretty wild for an ace.

82. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:40 PM (#2559102)

I love Carlos Zambrano

83. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:40 PM (#2559103)

I love you, Z. Please be safe.

84. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:40 PM (#2559104)

Z! Woooo!

85. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:40 PM (#2559105)

Yeah, 101 walks is.... wow.

FRANK THOMAS WITH THE CALL ON ZAMBRANO'S HITTING!

86. AuntBea Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:40 PM (#2559106)

There goes Byrnes's shot at the MVP.

87. Neil M Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:40 PM (#2559108)

Love Z.

88. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:41 PM (#2559109)

Just get him over, Alf. Just get him over.

89. Urban Faber Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:41 PM (#2559110)

What did Frank say, Lassus?

90. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:41 PM (#2559111)

Z has become every bit the walk machine Wood was.

91. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:41 PM (#2559112)

I find guys like Webb and Halladay who back up sinkers with a curve to be odd.

92. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:42 PM (#2559113)

Z hasn't walked fewer than 81 in a whole season for his entire career. His ground balls erase a lot of baserunners.

93. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:42 PM (#2559114)

*&%*&(%#

94. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:42 PM (#2559115)

Ouch. That was nasty.

95. H_Vaughn08 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:42 PM (#2559116)

Webb - Sori = very poor matchup for Cubs

96. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:43 PM (#2559117)

I have a feeling Z is going to be pissed if he doesn't score here. That could be bad.

97. Lassus Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:43 PM (#2559118)

89 - He talked in the pre-game that Zambrano can hit and if he's fallen asleep on, it could be the difference against a tough Brandon Webb. Sadly, Sori may have ruined that.

98. Sweet Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:44 PM (#2559120)

Seriously -- if it looks like a strike on the way to the plate, DON'T SWING.

99. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:44 PM (#2559121)

Come on, Derrek.

100. JJ1986 Posted: October 03, 2007 at 10:45 PM (#2559123)

That was some impressive pitching. And less than impressive hitting.

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