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Friday, June 29, 2007

Mets (43-33) at Phillies (41-37) - 1:35 pm EDT [DH: Game 1]

NYM: O. Hernández (3-3, 2.77)
PHI: J. Durbin (0-0, 94.50)

NTNgod Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:00 AM | 202 comment(s)
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1. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: June 29, 2007 at 07:48 AM (#2421905)

I have a bad feeling about this game.

2. Bob Koo Posted: June 29, 2007 at 09:17 AM (#2421961)

The Mets' bats better awaken this weekend. We really should get a split considering whom the Phillies are throwing out there for three of the four games.

3. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 12:22 PM (#2422180)

The girl is coming over so I don't know if I'll be able to watch/post, but I'll make sure to check the chatter/score from time to time.

4. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 12:54 PM (#2422222)

I should do laundry, but #### it. I love Friday day games.

Oh, and I hate Blow Duca. Can you believe what he said?

5. BTF's left-wing cheering section (formerly_dp) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:06 PM (#2422242)

I've decided to stay at the library all afternoon instead of watching the game....but i never get any work done when i do that, i just keep refreshing the gamecast...

6. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:09 PM (#2422248)

Mets are going all-out for the win in Game 1, which makes sense.

Mets
J. Reyes ss
J. Valentin 2b
C. Beltran cf
D. Wright 3b
C. Delgado 1b
S. Green rf
R. Castro c
R. Ledee lf
O. Hernandez p

Philadelphia
J. Rollins ss
M. Bourn rf
C. Utley 2b
R. Howard 1b
A. Rowand cf
G. Dobbs lf
W. Helms 3b
R. Barajas c
J.D. Durbin p

7. BTF's left-wing cheering section (formerly_dp) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:19 PM (#2422257)

Castro and Ledee=all out?? We're in trouble...

Is Alou dead? It seems like the Mets have given up hope on getting him back ever.

8. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:20 PM (#2422258)

Oh, and I hate Blow Duca. Can you believe what he said?

I spotted that in the A's chatter that they're pretty excited about Kurt Suzuki. And with Cust locked into DH... well, you know where I'm going with this.

Mets are going all-out for the win in Game 1, which makes sense.

All-out and they aren't playing Gomez?

9. PhillyBooster Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:23 PM (#2422259)

I'm taking it as a bad sign for the Phillies' chances today that I have honestly never heard of our starting pitcher.

10. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:31 PM (#2422274)

All-out and they aren't playing Gomez?

Well, you know. Close to all-out.

11. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:36 PM (#2422280)

The Mets really need to drop Delgado further in the lineup. He's killing us in the middle of the order.

12. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:37 PM (#2422284)

Hey, Chris Coste is back. Good for him.

13. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:38 PM (#2422285)

Oh, son of a #####. If this Durbin shuts us down, I'm going to be so pissed.

14. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:38 PM (#2422287)

This strikezone is huge so far.

15. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:39 PM (#2422288)

I don't think that's a strike.

16. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:40 PM (#2422292)

Oh this is good.

17. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:41 PM (#2422296)

MLB.tv is refusing to cooperate -- the feed stopping every 10 seconds or so. It's pretty much a readio feed so far. Ugh.

18. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:41 PM (#2422297)

This is ####### ridiculous already.

19. Dingbat Charlie Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:41 PM (#2422298)

he's the real deal!

20. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:42 PM (#2422300)

WHAT THE ####?

21. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:42 PM (#2422301)

Better swing the bats, boys. Everything in the vicinity of home plate is a strike. Just be consistent about it, ump.

22. PhillyBooster Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:43 PM (#2422302)

J. D. Durbin is the greatest pitcher in the history of the universe.

23. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:43 PM (#2422303)

...

24. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:44 PM (#2422306)

#### YOU MANUEL.

25. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:46 PM (#2422312)

This is bush league.

26. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:47 PM (#2422315)

And already I see one pitch that Durbin got that El Duque didn't.

27. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:49 PM (#2422320)

In fairness, I saw a pitch that Duque got that Durbin didn't. And I'm a Mets fan. Let's not start this.

The strike zone is odd, I admit.

28. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:49 PM (#2422321)

Will Ramon throw a runner out?

29. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:51 PM (#2422323)

I'm sure Jason Bourne is an excellent ballplayer. And if LoDuca tries to block the plate, he'll just kill him.

30. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:53 PM (#2422326)

Nice work against Utley.

31. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:54 PM (#2422328)

NICE pitch to Utley. Good job, Orlando. Now Howard.

32. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:55 PM (#2422330)

I hate how Chris Wheeler says Reyes. Rey-ASS.

33. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:55 PM (#2422331)

OK that curve was NOT a strike. This zone is going to make a lot of people on both sides pissed off.

34. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:55 PM (#2422332)

Yeah, ok, this strikezone does seem fair. But strange and floating around slightly.

35. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:56 PM (#2422333)

Throw Howard this slow #### all day. He won't hit it.

36. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:57 PM (#2422335)

Nice pitch Dookie.

37. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:57 PM (#2422336)

But the one that K'd Howard WAS a strike, I think. (Just not the early curve he watched) But the players will be complaining about everything now.

38. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:59 PM (#2422338)

I pray this nonsense means LoDuca won't be back.

39. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 01:59 PM (#2422340)

But the one that K'd Howard WAS a strike, I think. (Just not the early curve he watched) But the players will be complaining about everything now.

40. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:00 PM (#2422341)

You know, LoDuca isn't really a bad player. He's annoying, but he's a reasonably solid catcher in the scheme of things.

41. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:01 PM (#2422343)

Nice David!

Just advance the runner, Delgado. That's all that I want from you right now.

42. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:01 PM (#2422345)

Whoops. Double post. I don't think the LoDuca this is anything, it will blow over.

Nice hit, David.

43. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:01 PM (#2422346)

There we go.

44. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM (#2422349)

That ball was smoked. Nice.

45. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM (#2422350)

You know, LoDuca isn't really a bad player. He's annoying, but he's a reasonably solid catcher in the scheme of things.

Sam, I'm willing to acknowledge that. But it doesn't change the way I feel.

46. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM (#2422351)

What the hell!?

47. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM (#2422352)

That was like a mistake swing, even. LAUGHTER. Uh, good hit, Carlos. Now just keep repeating it.

48. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM (#2422353)

WOW!

49. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM (#2422354)

8-1 when Delgado homers.

50. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:03 PM (#2422356)

Haha, Phillies fans should be ashamed! The Mets faithful have invaded Shea (including my father and little brother).

51. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:03 PM (#2422358)

Well, that was a pleasant surprise, Carlos III.

52. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:04 PM (#2422360)

Out of catchers that qualify for the batting title, Blowduca is 12th out of 16 in baseball in OPS. He was solid last year, but not so far this year. And last year looked like a fluke, based on his performance in previous years.

53. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:06 PM (#2422364)

Ok, and Blowduca is 19th out of 28 among catchers with at least 175 ABs.

54. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:07 PM (#2422365)

If Ledee gets regular time, he will regress to a mean that none of us really want to see. I would really rather he remain a bench player.

55. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:08 PM (#2422368)

Out of catchers that qualify for the batting title, Blowduca is 12th out of 16 in baseball in OPS. He was solid last year, but not so far this year.

That's playing in Shea, of course. And let's see where he ends up. I'm not saying he's great, nor that the Mets would be best served keeping him around (especially given his likely price tag). Just that he's better than the prevailing attitude towards him around here would suggest -- which, after all, is a pretty low bar.

56. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:11 PM (#2422372)

Please god let them not move the fences in at the new Shea like all these other pathetic stadiums.

And that's what I'm calling that park, by the way. Or just Shea.

57. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:12 PM (#2422374)

True to the part about Shea, SAm, but I don't really think we can expect too much more from him than what we've gotten. His good year last year was mostly a batting average fluke. He might hit for slightly more power going forward (doubles), but I think his batting average and OBP are roughly what one would expect.

Just that he's better than the prevailing attitude towards him around here would suggest

I agree, but he couldn't possibly be as bad as we say. Even Rey Ordonez wasn't that bad!

58. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:12 PM (#2422375)

That sucked. Come on, El Duque. Remember the big strike zone? Use it.

59. Conor Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:13 PM (#2422377)

Out of catchers that qualify for the batting title, Blowduca is 12th out of 16 in baseball in OPS. He was solid last year, but not so far this year. And last year looked like a fluke, based on his performance in previous years.

He also deserves a little bit of credit for durability. One way to look at it is most of the regular catchers are better than him (so far this year at least), but that does mean there are only 11 catchers better than him, which makes him at least average. (looking purely from the offensive standpoint.)

60. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:16 PM (#2422383)

I guess I do think Blowduca is an average hitting catcher, but his defense is below average, making him a slightly below average player this year. Last year, he was slightly above average.

I'm so glad I get to hear Keith on the Phillies broadcast.

61. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:18 PM (#2422384)

Nice, maybe Reyes can get those power numbers up this series.

62. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:18 PM (#2422386)

Reyes loves CBP.

A home run!

63. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:18 PM (#2422387)

That comes as a shock... REALLY.

64. Conor Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:19 PM (#2422389)

I guess I do think Blowduca is an average hitting catcher, but his defense is below average, making him a slightly below average player this year. Last year, he was slightly above average.

I just looked up the EQA numbers, Blowduca is exactly a league average hitting catcher. 246 on the nose. Also, I loved whoever it was here that referred to him as a "fiery midget." I dont know why but I think thats one of the funniest things ever on this site.

65. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:19 PM (#2422392)

Jose . . . ole, ole, ole!

Love him. Just love him. Whether he talks to the press enough to suit LoDuca's taste or not.

66. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:26 PM (#2422406)

Haha the Phanatic throwing popcorn on Keith in the booth.

67. Doris from Rego Park Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:28 PM (#2422412)

Mascots don't belong in the dugout.

68. Doris from Rego Park Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:29 PM (#2422413)

####! Broadcasting booth!

69. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:30 PM (#2422416)

Too bad, Doris. That was a real solid effort.

70. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:32 PM (#2422417)

Is Delgado finally gonna shut me up?

71. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:33 PM (#2422422)

Keith must be proud of Delgado so far. He stayed back wonderfully on that pitch.

In fact, that was the most encouraging swing I've seen out of him in quite some time.

72. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:34 PM (#2422423)

So much for the Dorian Gray nickname . . . .

73. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:35 PM (#2422427)

Um...what did Pedro Cerrano do with the real Carlos Delgado?

74. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:40 PM (#2422432)

FREE CASTRO!

75. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:41 PM (#2422434)

I give LoDuca all the credit. Look who is getting the RBIs today: Delgado. Reyes. Castro. The Hispanic players. LoDuca challenged them, and they are stepping up. What a leader he is.

Swoon.

76. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:42 PM (#2422436)

Whoa, what did Castro do, double? I had to answer a phone call.

El Duque!!

77. Joshemy Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:42 PM (#2422437)

Castro chugging and diving!

78. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:43 PM (#2422439)

No, even if he catches the ball, he's safe.

79. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:43 PM (#2422440)

And yet another Latino player answers LoDuca's challenge!!!! Paul is the MAN!!!!

80. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:45 PM (#2422443)

This is going well.

81. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:45 PM (#2422444)

I like this inning.

82. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:49 PM (#2422452)

Well, that was fun. Just what you want to do with a pitcher who has Durbin's stuff. Hit it.

83. Joshemy Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:53 PM (#2422457)

Nasty curve!

84. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:55 PM (#2422459)

It really is an interesting problem as to what you do with El Duque in the playoffs.

85. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 02:55 PM (#2422460)

Yeah, this strikezone is gross. But good work so far, El Duque.

86. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:00 PM (#2422465)

It really is an interesting problem as to what you do with El Duque in the playoffs.

Not really. Glavine, El Duque, Perez, Maine. What's the problem?

And don't go there, Matt. I know what you're gonna say . . . don't go there. Yet.

87. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:00 PM (#2422466)

Has Howard's defense improved this year? I feel like it has, from what little I've seen.

88. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:01 PM (#2422467)

And don't go there, Matt. I know what you're gonna say . . . don't go there. Yet.

I won't.

89. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:06 PM (#2422472)

Seems to be Delgado's day. Even getting the infield hits! Barely.

90. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:07 PM (#2422473)

Delgado better play tonight.

91. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:07 PM (#2422475)

Pretty unlucky on the carom, that it didn't go somewhere where Wright could score.

92. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:09 PM (#2422478)

Uhhhh nice camera work there, SNY.

93. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:14 PM (#2422486)

Maybe LoDuca needs to complain about Jewish guys not talking to the media enough.

94. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:15 PM (#2422490)

Yeah, I'm kind of annoyed that since I said we should lay off Green for a week that he hasn't gotten a hit.

95. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:17 PM (#2422492)

I love El Duque. He's basically been Pedro this year.

Well, and Maine has too. And Perez.

96. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:18 PM (#2422495)

Pedro? Who?

97. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:18 PM (#2422496)

The Mets rotation is like when Superman died and all those fake Supermen popped up to fill the void.

98. CrosbyBird Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:25 PM (#2422509)

I just looked up the EQA numbers, Blowduca is exactly a league average hitting catcher. 246 on the nose.

He had a pretty lousy April and a brutal June. 2006 was a little over his head, but he's got a career .340 OBP and a career .415 SLG, playing the vast majority of his career at Dodger Stadium and Shea. I expect him to be a little better as the season progresses.

99. Sam M. Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:25 PM (#2422510)

Pedro can be mentioned, when it is in the wistful past tense and/or others are compared to him.

100. Banta Posted: June 29, 2007 at 03:27 PM (#2422514)

Yikes. Coste is happy to be back.

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