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Friday, September 28, 2007

Minnesota Twins (78-81) @ Boston Red Sox (94-65), Friday, September 28, 2007, 7:05pm

MIN: Kevin Slowey (23, RHP, 4-0, 4.57)
BOS: Daisuke Matsuzaka (26, RHP, 14-12, 4.48)

The Primer Chimp Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:00 AM | 198 comment(s)
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1. Joe C isn't Posted: September 28, 2007 at 05:37 PM (#2548329)

I got a message from a friend that Buchholz is shut down for the season, including playoffs. Also heard it on WEEI.

No word of why.

2. Darren Posted: September 28, 2007 at 06:14 PM (#2548349)

I just linked the Boston.com article. Their routine tests on his arm showed he was fatiguing.

3. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:15 PM (#2548424)

No one else watching tonight?

Matsuzaka with a good first inning, his stuff looked good again.

4. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:23 PM (#2548435)

Yes, it did.

I wonder if Manny will stick in the 2-hole? Seems unlikely.

I didn't realize that Manny's rate stats were still better than Lowell's, as disappointing as they've been.

5. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:26 PM (#2548447)

Well when a guy is usually producing to the tune of a 1.000+ OPS, then it's understandable that his down years are still pretty good.

6. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2548451)

Nice AB for Drew there, dunking one in.

7. plink Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:44 PM (#2548489)

I'm all for getting Manny more at-bats per game, as well as keeping Crisp, Lugo, or (shudder) Cora out of the top 2 in the lineup.

8. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:44 PM (#2548490)

Damn Cuddyer made a nice catch to rob Jacoby there. Why the #### did the Twins ever screw with him by mvoing him around to 3b, 2b, etc?

9. karlmagnus Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:45 PM (#2548493)

Are there any good young catchers out there this winter? Cappy needs to be relegated to backup for the last year of his contract.

10. plink Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:51 PM (#2548514)

Are there any good young catchers out there this winter?

If you're asking whether said catchers are available, the answer is kind of by definition no. I was holding out hope the Cubs would continue to bury Geovany Soto (esp. after the Kendall trade), and that he could be acquired on the cheap, but seems unlikely now.

11. plink Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:57 PM (#2548527)

Mmm. Pedroia seemed out on the replay.

Manny tries to make up for it, and Punto refuses to give in.

12. Darren Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:59 PM (#2548534)

Speaking of OPS+, Ortiz's has gone up for 7 years in a row. And there's another hit. Ho hum. This September is the best calendar month of his career.

13. Darren Posted: September 28, 2007 at 07:59 PM (#2548539)

Manny probably should have scored but I don't want him running hard or getting in a collision.

14. Nick Warino Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:09 PM (#2548577)

Jason Kubel has already cut at least an inning of Dice-K's start.

15. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:11 PM (#2548582)

Coorey, Now that the Braves season is over, you gonna be watching tomm's cricket match?!

I was wondering if we had enuff cricket followers to start a cricket chatter

16. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:14 PM (#2548598)

Coorey, Now that the Braves season is over, you gonna be watching tomm's cricket match?!

I was wondering if we had enuff cricket followers to start a cricket chatter

This series has my interest more than usual because we are a different team than what we had at the World cup and India are looking hot, right now

17. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:18 PM (#2548621)

Clay is out??

#### that sux

Speaking of things that fukking suck, here is captain fantastic at the plate

18. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:22 PM (#2548639)

This series has my interest more than usual because we are a different team than what we had at the World cup and India are looking hot, right now

We barely had a break from the T-20 world cup. But Tendulkar should be fresh. I am hoping he smashes Lee to all parts of the park.

19. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:23 PM (#2548642)

Just eyeballing the stats at mlb.com, there are four catchers in MLB this year with more than 400 ABs and a better OPS than Varitek. (McCann is 9 points behind him, as is Kelly Shoppach; Bard is 18 points behind.)

I don't see a likely upgrade next year.

20. Darren Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:25 PM (#2548647)

Who is Garreth Jones?

21. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:27 PM (#2548655)

But Tendulkar should be fresh. I am hoping he smashes Lee to all parts of the park.

Not a fan of Bing Lee??

I think I am his biggest fan out there, as well.

22. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:27 PM (#2548659)

McCann??

Wow

I might ease up on the Captain then...

23. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:30 PM (#2548668)

Yeah, Varitek may actually have become underrated among Therapudlians. Catcher has got to be the thinnest position, talent-wise, in the big leagues.

24. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:32 PM (#2548679)

Not a fan of Bing Lee??

I think I am his biggest fan out there, as well

I am guessing you heard his "pop single" too.
Nah, just don't like anyone on the current Au team other than Ponting and Symonds. Used to eb a big fan of mcgrath and Warne ( esp his text messages ), but now...meh

25. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:34 PM (#2548684)

there are four catchers in MLB this year with more than 400 ABs and a better OPS than Varitek. (McCann is 9 points behind him, as is Kelly Shoppach; Bard is 18 points behind.)

Can't believe mcCann is behind him. hid ankle injury and Sept slump is really slwoing him down. mcCann is way better than varitek

26. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:37 PM (#2548695)

I am guessing you heard his "pop single" too.
Nah, just don't like anyone on the current Au team other than Ponting and Symonds. Used to eb a big fan of mcgrath and Warne ( esp his text messages ), but now...meh

That was a terrible song!!

Wanrie is god like to me, and in my eyes can't do no wrong.

I'm a big Hussey fan, but don't care much for Michael Clarke. Love Gilly though. I wish I could find you the highlights of his century in Perth when he almost broke the fastest 100 record set by Viv (Vlad lookalike) Richards against the Poms.

27. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:42 PM (#2548712)

No sane person would take Varitek over McCann, who last year put up offensive numbers that Varitek has never approached. Plus, of course, he's got his whole career ahead of him. But, at least by a crude measure, Varitek has been slightly better, offensively, this year.

My main point was that there actually aren't that many catchers out there better than Varitek, frustrating as he can be at times.

28. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:42 PM (#2548718)

Philly up by 3, Mets down by 3

Oh my god

29. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:43 PM (#2548724)

I know I'm jinxing him and everything, but Matsuzaka has not walked anyone yet.

Maybe the best thing about this outing so far.

30. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:43 PM (#2548725)

VAritek with RISP is downright disgusting. It much multiply our hate of him at times.

"He calls a great game though!"

31. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:44 PM (#2548729)

I know I'm jinxing him and everything, but Matsuzaka has not walked anyone yet.

I know, the walks against Tampa last week were a killer

32. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:45 PM (#2548740)

Love Gilly though. I wish I could find you the highlights of his century in Perth

I saw that actually. Long live P2P streaming!!! Somehow never liked Gilly since his incident with Slater. I used to be a big Slater fan.
hayden And Gilly are both gonan struggle with lefties swinging the ball into him..Thats India's only hope.

Tendulkar and Yuvraj will win us atleast 4 matches at home

33. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:46 PM (#2548742)

6 K's for the little man

nice

34. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:46 PM (#2548743)

Dice-K tonight for some reason is making me think of D-Lowe: sometimes dominant, frequently and infuriatingly mediocre. He's been great in this game; maybe they've succeeded in getting him enough rest to straighten him out.

35. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:47 PM (#2548745)

Best outing for Matsuzaka in a while.

Against a team that's never seen him.

Coincidence?

36. plink Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:50 PM (#2548753)

Ah, well. Ends 11 consecutive times on base for Ortiz.

37. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:50 PM (#2548754)

Remember last year when Lowell hit all his doubles in the first half, and none (or so it seemed) in the second half?

A lot different this year. The epitome of contract year production.

38. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:51 PM (#2548761)

Matsuzaka needs to be on a short leash next inning

39. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:52 PM (#2548766)

I saw that actually. Long live P2P streaming!!! Somehow never liked Gilly since his incident with Slater. I used to be a big Slater fan.
hayden And Gilly are both gonan struggle with lefties swinging the ball into him..Thats India's only hope.

Hayden keeps on proving everyone wrong, it is insane. I'd love to see Yuvraj to continue doing well, he can turn a game in a blink of an eye. I love Tendulker and hope he is ready for 2-3 years of kick ass cricket. Can't wait for the test series in December- January...

How cool is this...

Today is the grand final for Aussie Rules and we are having a party, straight after it finishes, the cricket comes on!!!

Sports bonanza at the Coorey house!!

Drew being Drew there

40. robinred Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:53 PM (#2548774)

Only 39? Thought you guys wanted the division.

41. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:53 PM (#2548776)

Youkilis's OPS at Fenway this year is lower than his road OPS? Weird.

42. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:53 PM (#2548777)

It's old Sox week in the Mets ongoing meltdown: Pineiro beat them last night, BK beating them tonight.

43. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:54 PM (#2548782)

Today is the grand final for Aussie Rules and we are having a party, straight after it finishes, the cricket comes on!!!

Not involved with the Rugby world cup?

44. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:55 PM (#2548786)

Only 39? Thought you guys wanted the division.

I was thinking the same, but I am getting ready for a party!

Also I have one eye on the Mets and Philly chatters. I can't get over what the Mets are doing - it is freaking me out!!@

45. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:56 PM (#2548788)

The only thing the Mets have going for them tonight is that San Diego and Colorado are both losing. So far.

46. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:57 PM (#2548790)

Not involved with the Rugby world cup?

Yeh, but wake me up when the quarters are on.

20 teams is way too many, and the games have not been good at all.

47. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:58 PM (#2548793)

Mets are gonna fall over themselves and make it, and then do a fukking St Louis on us all...

48. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: September 28, 2007 at 08:59 PM (#2548801)

Again I ask: What the F!#$ does this asshat Captain?

49. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:03 PM (#2548808)

Ok, one more batter for Daisuke. If he doesn't get the next guy, he's gone

50. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:03 PM (#2548809)

That was crushed by the big Canuck

Lets go orioles!

51. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:04 PM (#2548810)

Nice 0-1 breaking ball

52. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:04 PM (#2548811)

Yeh, but wake me up when the quarters are on.

reminds you of the ####### Windies World Cup huh.

I thin this India-Aus series depends on hayden-gilly. If we get them both, think we can handle Hodge/Clarke and Voges.

Depends on how Hogg does too

53. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:04 PM (#2548812)

Baltimore seems to be beating up on Mussina, eh?

54. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:05 PM (#2548815)

This is why you can't count on the Orioles to complete the comeback, despite the big inning: with Mussina throwing BP in the inning, dumbass Hernandez makes the final out AT THIRD BASE.

Then of course there's the fact that Victor Zambrano is pitching.

55. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:05 PM (#2548816)

It's a visual effect with Varitek, I think. We react to the fact that he can look SO BAD at the plate.

56. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:05 PM (#2548818)

Stupid baserunning by Ramon Hernandez to end that inning.

57. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:06 PM (#2548820)

Awfully nice-looking pitch on the 2-2.

58. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:07 PM (#2548821)

reminds you of the ####### Windies World Cup huh.

I thin this India-Aus series depends on hayden-gilly. If we get them both, think we can handle Hodge/Clarke and Voges.

Depends on how Hogg does too

The cricket was a joke. I couldn't stand teh fact that teams lost so many games and still made the semi finals.

Damn, I forgot that Hussey was out.

Also in case you wanted to know, my least favourite cricketer is Shane Fukking Watson

59. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:07 PM (#2548823)

First walk. Shortly after the HR. Is this the usual meltdown inning?

60. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:07 PM (#2548825)

Meltdown alert!

61. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:07 PM (#2548827)

#### you ump

that 2-2 looked like it was strike 3

62. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:08 PM (#2548828)

Also in case you wanted to know, my least favourite cricketer is Shane Fukking Watson

He is your test opener now?

Who is the Warnie replacement? McGill??!! HA HA HA

63. karlmagnus Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:08 PM (#2548834)

Probably worth yanking him, just in case; he's at almost 100 pitches. Avoid getting him tired; an outing like this would come in damn useful in the playoffs.

64. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:08 PM (#2548833)

Jesus - just like that we have runners at 2nd and 3rd

65. karlmagnus Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:09 PM (#2548836)

Idiot slow hook; he's had 6.1 innings.

66. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:10 PM (#2548840)

Watson won't open because he cant stay on the field for any length of time .

Such a wuss

67. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:11 PM (#2548843)

OK. Stopped the bleeding.

Get him out.

68. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:12 PM (#2548845)

Good, only 2 runs. Not as bad as the meltdowns usually are.

69. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:12 PM (#2548847)

Could have been worse

70. Nick Warino Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:12 PM (#2548848)

I just found and almost ate a microwave burrito from Trader Joes in my work freezer that said "Best By 01-21-05." What I don't understand is that it was in the front and I was told they clean out the fridge and freezer once a year.

71. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:12 PM (#2548852)

Watson won't open because he cant stay on the field for any length of time .

he has had success against India. I just don't rate Jacques too highly

72. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:13 PM (#2548856)

Braindead Jay Payton tries a first pitch bunt against a rookie he's never seen before.

73. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:14 PM (#2548859)

Or so I assume. Has Ohlendorf faced Baltimore?

74. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:14 PM (#2548861)

Watson by all accounts is a total ########, but what shits me the most is Australia keep on picking him.

They became obsessed with finding an all rounder after the ashes 2005 fiasco and Flintoff peaking for once in his career.

The guy can't stay fit and it has leaked that he is a massive hypercondriac (spelling)

75. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:16 PM (#2548867)

The guy can't stay fit and it has leaked that he is a massive hypercondriac

Dude, he bowled for half a season with a stress fracture in the back. If he gives up bowling...

I am really excited for the test series with Aus. Somehow I started hating ODIs..just not so much fun

76. karlmagnus Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:19 PM (#2548879)

I'm hoping that 20-20 will arbitrage out ODI, so we can be left with only one dumb form of cricket that I can't be bothered to follow, and can concentrate on test matches, preferably on uncovered pitches.

77. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:20 PM (#2548880)

WTF is Tito doing? WTF is Tito doing? WTF is Tito doing?

78. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:20 PM (#2548882)

I thought Markakis was supposed to be a good hitter. He just chased two sliders nowhere near the strike zone.

79. karlmagnus Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:20 PM (#2548885)

Why is Dice-K out again? Has Tito fogotten the Japanese for "Sit down?"

80. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:20 PM (#2548886)

hm, 95 on that pitch

81. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:20 PM (#2548887)

WTF is Tito doing? WTF is Tito doing? WTF is Tito doing?

Killing Matsuzaka's arm, obviously.

82. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:21 PM (#2548891)

Of course, makes us look like dopes with a 3-pitch K.

Remy sounds unsurprised, he says because there will be such a long layoff before he pitches again.

83. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:21 PM (#2548893)

Twins toughest AL team to strike out, according to Remy.

84. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:22 PM (#2548894)

can concentrate on test matches, preferably on uncovered pitches.

yea ###### right. Do you really want to see Derek Underwood sorts dominating the Test game? shitt..if they allowed uncovered pitches, Kumble would play for 10 years more..

85. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:23 PM (#2548900)

okay, a walk, pull him ####

86. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:23 PM (#2548901)

OK, tying run to the plate? And it's one of the few guys with power? GET HIM OUT NOW!

87. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:24 PM (#2548902)

Take him out.

88. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:25 PM (#2548906)

Oh, great, going to Lopez in the 8th-- after leaving in Matsuzaka for now?

Okajima, a Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

89. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:25 PM (#2548907)

What the #### Tito? ####### seriously?

90. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:25 PM (#2548908)

I am really excited for the test series with Aus. Somehow I started hating ODIs..just not so much fun

test matches are my bread and butter, I live for them.

One dayers are ok, if one is on I'll watch, I don't live and die by them like I do for tests.

I just noticed Dice is still out there!!!WTF???

91. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:26 PM (#2548910)

120th pitch, I think.

92. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:26 PM (#2548911)

I didn't think there was any way they were going to have a chance at Hunter on the back end.

93. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:26 PM (#2548912)

How many wickets would warnie have had on uncovered pitches?

94. PJ Martinez Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:26 PM (#2548913)

Thank god.

Looked very close at first.

95. Dan Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:27 PM (#2548914)

Well, that was a gift call I think, I'd like to see a replay to see if he was actually out.

96. plink Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:27 PM (#2548916)

The Lowell-Pedroia DP combination could easily be one of the main reasons Sox defense rates so highly this year.

97. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:27 PM (#2548917)

Over 120 pitches, amazing

98. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:28 PM (#2548921)

Pedroia looked like he bobbled the ball, I dont think Hunter was out

99. karlmagnus Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:28 PM (#2548922)

Warne was so good it would have helped him less than most. Australia on the other hand would at some point have undergone the total psychic humiliation of being bowled out for about 50 by Ashley Giles.

100. Chip Posted: September 28, 2007 at 09:30 PM (#2548926)

In the recent history of switchhitters, is lefty Kielty worse than righty J.T. Snow, back when J.T. still switched?

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