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Friday, August 29, 2008

New York Mets (74-60) @ Florida Marlins (68-66), Friday, August 29, 2008, 7:10pm

NYM: Oliver Perez (26, LHP, 9-7, 4.00)
FLA: Chris Volstad (21, RHP, 4-3, 3.42)

The Primer Chimp Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:00 AM | 144 comment(s)
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1. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: August 29, 2008 at 03:14 PM (#2921753)

Let's do this.

2. Joshemy Posted: August 29, 2008 at 05:25 PM (#2922112)

The Cubs are certainly doing their part to help us out so far this weekend.

3. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:02 PM (#2922183)

LoDuca is NOT an old friend, Cohen. He's more like the uncle that molested you every time he picked you up from kindgergarten.

4. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:08 PM (#2922187)

Hopefully Good Ollie continues to show his face against teh Fish.

5. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:13 PM (#2922194)

Run wild on Lo Duca.

6. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:13 PM (#2922195)

That ####-ass throw looks familiar...

7. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#2922197)

Come on, David, that was really weak...

8. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#2922198)

Wright has looked bad the last few games.

9. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:20 PM (#2922202)

Bases loaded failure coming?

10. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:21 PM (#2922204)

Obligatory 1st inning run achieved...

11. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:23 PM (#2922207)

Wow, what a catch by Helms...

12. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:24 PM (#2922208)

Blah, that was a nice play. Should have done better there.

13. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:27 PM (#2922212)

Should have done better there.

Really? You expected more from a bases loaded situation than one run?

You're better than that, Russian.

14. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:29 PM (#2922215)

Throw strikes, you imbecile.

15. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:30 PM (#2922216)

CAM, you do know my name is RUSSLAN, not Russian right?

I am glad that Reyes got to that ball. He didn't make the play because Hanley is really fast but getting to that ball is a good sign.

16. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:31 PM (#2922219)

Nice snag by Delgado, too.

17. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:32 PM (#2922222)

Stellar defense by the Paperboy on that one.

####### assweed.

18. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:32 PM (#2922223)

It does seem that the defense has been much better of late. Other than LF, everyone seems to be playing pretty well.

19. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:34 PM (#2922225)

Good job to get out of that.

20. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:36 PM (#2922226)

One watches David swing like garbage and bounce routine chances in the dirt and one wonders.

What could the Mets fetch for him in trade? I mean, you've got Flores down in the minors...

21. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:38 PM (#2922231)

Shut up.

22. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:39 PM (#2922232)

The Mets have only made 4 errors in the last 35 games or so. Wright has looked like a real gold-glover and Reyes is playing defense like he did the last couple of years.

23. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:40 PM (#2922233)

Ollie has to swipe one here.

24. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:42 PM (#2922235)

This stadium is something of a joke.

25. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:43 PM (#2922237)

So the team and the stadium are a perfect fit?

26. Sam M. Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:44 PM (#2922238)

What could the Mets fetch for him in trade?

Unless it is the youthful and ready-to-sign lifetime contracts reincarnations of Eddie Mathews and Hank Aaron in a two-for-one deal with the recreated Milwaukee Braves of 1957, forget it.

David Wright is going to be the greatest player in franchise history. The GM and owners who trade him would go down in infamy. And any fans who would endorse it should look for a new team to root for.

27. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:44 PM (#2922239)

Yikes.

28. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:46 PM (#2922242)

It makes little sense that Perez has done well against the Marlins while Pelfrey gets rocked by them.

29. Sam M. Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:47 PM (#2922243)

Ollie: God, that sucker teed off on that like he knew I was gonna throw a fastball!
Schneider: He did know.
Ollie: How?
Schneider: I told him.

30. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:54 PM (#2922249)

Don't be silly, Sam. Hank Aaron and Eddie Matthews are players who Wright could only dream of becoming with the aid of HGH and a miracle.

Also, that comment was made with tongue planted firmly in cheek. You guys are sensitive like my five year old cousin after a seven hour marathon of Dora The Explorer.

31. Sam M. Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:54 PM (#2922252)

It makes little sense that Perez has done well against the Marlins while Pelfrey gets rocked by them.

Why? They are completely different pitchers. One's a lefty, the other's a righty. One's a fly ball, strikeout pitcher; the other throws grounder after grounder and pitches to contact. I can't really think of why you would think they would be prone to have similar results.

32. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:56 PM (#2922255)

Sam, the Marlins are right-handed team that scores runs mostly via the homer. Ollies a left-handed flyball pitcher which would make him vulnerable to the Marlins whereas Pelfrey, as a right-handed hitter who limits the homers, should be less vulnerable.

33. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:57 PM (#2922257)

For a guy as big as he is, Volstad's stuff is, well, underwhelming.

34. Sam M. Posted: August 29, 2008 at 07:58 PM (#2922258)

Hank Aaron and Eddie Matthews are players who Wright could only dream of becoming with the aid of HGH and a miracle.

Actually, when you take into account defense and baserunning (neither of which Mathews was good at), Wright is probably comparable to Mathews -- and if he has a very good chance to make up in career value what he will undoubtedly lack in peak value.

And obviously, I didn't mean literally that Wright is as valuable as two inner circle HOFers. Just that the idea of trading him should be off the table unless the trade is a complete and total no-brainer, which I expressed in the most extreme possible way.

35. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:00 PM (#2922262)

Man, Heilman has dominated the Fish this year. 12 IP, 0.00 era, 18/4 k/bb, 4 hits.

36. Sam M. Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:00 PM (#2922263)

Nice pitch on the corner. Church needed to poke at that and foul it off own the third base line.

37. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:01 PM (#2922264)

Church ain't right.

Matthews bat was pretty ####### vicious as a young'n. I didn't see Matthews run or play defense, so I can't vouch for those abilities. Anyway, point taken.

38. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:03 PM (#2922267)

Man, I go and praise the defense, and then Reyes goes and does that?

39. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:03 PM (#2922268)

Man, Jose. That's awful.

40. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:04 PM (#2922269)

Cohen is such a ####### jinx, it's not even funny.

41. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:04 PM (#2922270)

That's a pretty throw by Wade.

42. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:06 PM (#2922271)

*Venting Gas Prevents Implosion*

43. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:08 PM (#2922273)

Wade doesn't seem to have a big ego which is pretty cool.

44. Sam M. Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:10 PM (#2922274)

Matthews bat was pretty ####### vicious as a young'n.

Mathews is, in fact, the ONLY third baseman in history who got off to a better start with the bat in his career than David Wright. His start from an incredibly early age is awesome.

He had a relatively mortal first season -- of course, he was only 20 years old in the major leagues -- with a 113 OPS+ (25 HRs). From then on, he did the following, beginning with his age 21 season in 1953:

* 3 straight 40 HR seasons (47, 40, 41).
* 3 straight 170+ OPS+ seasons (171, 172, 172)
* 9 straight years of at least 30 homers

For his career, a 143 OPS+, 512 HRs, and a .509 career slugging average. Wow.

David Wright is the only other third baseman in history to have four consecutive seasons of 25 homers in his first four full seasons, and will be the only one to have four straight seasons of 130+ OPS+ (which even Mathews didn't do, because of that 113 in his first season). He is Mathews-lite with the bat; not Schmidt, or Boggs, or Brett -- none of them got off to as great a start as Wright has. Only Mathews.

45. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:15 PM (#2922277)

Horrible AB for Murph there.

46. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:16 PM (#2922280)

The offense appears to have died again.

47. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:19 PM (#2922283)

Niese is pitching today which means he isn't likely to start on Tuesday against the Brewers. Considering how the Brewers mash lefties, can't say I disagree.

48. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:20 PM (#2922288)

I think we all wonder if Wright will have those ~170 OPS+ seasons like Schmidt and Brett did.

Cohen plugging B-Ref, which I frequent on a daily basis.

49. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:20 PM (#2922289)

Perez has only walked two but his contorl has been off.

50. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:23 PM (#2922291)

Niese is pitching today which means he isn't likely to start on Tuesday

Good, that didn't make any sense.

A fortuitous DP there.

51. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:24 PM (#2922295)

Stop walking people, pleaes.

52. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:25 PM (#2922296)

Wilmer Flores is bringing the NYPL to its KNEES!

53. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:25 PM (#2922297)

Is Nelson Figueroa really going to start another game for this team?

Let's get drunk.

54. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:26 PM (#2922299)

Perez is really fighting himself.

55. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:26 PM (#2922300)

Theoretically, if you can have Ollie or Derek Lowe for the same price, who would you take?

As Ollie walks another ####### batter, the choice for me is simple.

56. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:29 PM (#2922301)

Theoretically, if you can have Ollie or Derek Lowe for the same price, who would you take?

The exact same contract? I'd definitely go with Ollie. It's a no doubter.

57. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:31 PM (#2922305)

Well, i'm afraid the Mets have done run out of offense.

58. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:33 PM (#2922306)

Man, Volstad is just mowing through this lineup like nothing right now.

59. Sam M. Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:37 PM (#2922309)

I think we all wonder if Wright will have those ~170 OPS+ seasons like Schmidt and Brett did.

That is a legit, and interesting, question.

Brett's first one -- which happened to be a 203 OPS+ monster -- was his age 27 season. His next, and only other one, was his age 32 season.

Mike Schmidt didn't have an OPS+ of 170 or above until his age 30 season. He only had two -- that one, and the next.

David Wright is just now in his age 25 season. His best is yet to be. Let's have a little perspective and patience, OK? He is on just as great a trajectory as they were. Better, in fact.

60. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:38 PM (#2922311)

If he faced Hanley 10 times today, he wouldn't get him once today.

61. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:46 PM (#2922322)

Let's have a little perspective and patience, OK?

But I want an Oompa Loompa NOW!

Niese has thrown 50 pitches in the first two innings and the Mets can't get a baserunner to save their lives.

62. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:48 PM (#2922326)

The Mets have a really, really nice rotation right now.

63. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:50 PM (#2922328)

Niese just gave up a single to Chris Woodward. I'd not want him facing Ryan Braun if it can be helped.

64. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:52 PM (#2922331)

I meant that the Marlins have a nice rotation.

65. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 08:56 PM (#2922340)

Beltran looked really bad on that Ross triple. Yikes.

66. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:01 PM (#2922346)

That's probably it for Ollie. He only only allowed 2 runs, only one of them earned despite not having it.

67. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:02 PM (#2922347)

Schneider runs slower than molasses.

68. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:06 PM (#2922353)

A double here would be awfully nice, Jose.

69. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:10 PM (#2922358)

Nice. Come on, Slappy!

70. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:11 PM (#2922359)

Reyes clearly held up.

Let's get a little Slappy Magic.

71. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:11 PM (#2922360)

Bases loaded for Castillo. I don't like this matchup.

72. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:12 PM (#2922363)

Fudgesicles.

73. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:12 PM (#2922364)

And here comes the huge sack of fail from David...

74. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:12 PM (#2922365)

He hit it pretty well. Nice play.

75. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:13 PM (#2922367)

Slider. Bat. Speed.

76. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:15 PM (#2922370)

Ah, not what we were looking for, DW.

77. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:15 PM (#2922371)

Overmatched by 91 MPH fastballs.

78. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:18 PM (#2922374)

David Wright is offically slumping.

79. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM (#2922377)

Delgado's defense has been much better recently.

This isn't looking good. Rhodes is tough against lefties and then the bottom of the order after that. Not good.

80. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:20 PM (#2922378)

Both NY third baseman have been sucking arse lately.

81. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:25 PM (#2922384)

My man Dillon Gee is having himself an excellent start in AA. 27 IP, 20/4 K/BB, 1 HR, 1.33 era, .85 WHIP.

82. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:29 PM (#2922388)

Beltran has to be running here.

83. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:29 PM (#2922389)

Beltran knocked the crap out of that one.

84. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:30 PM (#2922390)

How about a bomb, Tatis?

85. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:31 PM (#2922391)

This is a curious move, with all of the other lefties coming up.

And does not pay off, for now.

86. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:31 PM (#2922392)

Beltran has to steal early in this count even if he is thrown out.

87. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:33 PM (#2922395)

PH for Schneider.

88. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:34 PM (#2922397)

Why does Keith think the Marlins would be afraid of Endy Chavez?

89. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:35 PM (#2922401)

With all the platoony guys both hitting and pitching on this team, they could really benefit from the 40-man roster in a couple of days, if they plan it right.

90. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:36 PM (#2922403)

I'd just walk Endy here.

91. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:37 PM (#2922404)

Endy should have tried a bunt.

92. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2922405)

Yeah, really ####### scary.

93. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2922406)

Crap.

94. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:43 PM (#2922409)

I have a feeling Smith is going to give up runs here.

95. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:43 PM (#2922410)

I have a feeling your feeling is wrong.

96. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:49 PM (#2922416)

My rally cap is on.

97. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:50 PM (#2922418)

You know, even shitty closers save games some of the time.

98. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:51 PM (#2922419)

Gregg is a pretty good closer.

99. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:51 PM (#2922420)

I have no idea why Cancel is the guy that's called up instead of Casanova.

100. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: August 29, 2008 at 09:51 PM (#2922421)

If you say so.

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