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Wednesday, October 04, 2006

NLDS Game 1: Dodgers at Mets - 4:05 pm EDT on ESPN

LAD (88-74): D. Lowe (16-8, 3.63)
NYM (97-65): TBA

NTNgod Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:44 AM | 590 comment(s)
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1. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:42 AM (#2197058)

First!

I'm so pumped.

Let's Go! Mets Go!

2. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 04, 2006 at 08:54 AM (#2197064)

It huoght the mets were the prime time game. I was really looking forward to an early start for the yanks.

3. Tom D Posted: October 04, 2006 at 09:07 AM (#2197076)

I'm on my way in about three hours, but I'll be Chattering in spirit. FWIW, I have a solid 5-2 (.714)record at Mets postseason games, which would be 6-2 if the Brad Clontz wild pitch game counted.

Of course, I don't know who's pitching. At least for today, I'm OK with Maine. There is a very strong bias in the NY media for 36 year old twelve year veterans starting in the postseason. An awful lot of postseason games have been won by pitchers younger than George Blanda.

I think the game is on Fox. That makes going an added bonus. The obligatory five to six shots of fans in the crowd between pitches makes me nauseous.

LETS GO METS!!!!!!!!!!

4. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 10:02 AM (#2197120)

I think the game is on Fox.

ESPN. Today's games are on ESPN.

5. billyshears Posted: October 04, 2006 at 10:05 AM (#2197125)

Who's the idiot that scheduled the game at 4pm? Nice to have a game between teams in the two biggest markets in the country that nodoby can actually watch because they have this thing called work.

6. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 04, 2006 at 10:16 AM (#2197136)

I coulda swore the mets got the prime time game today

7. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 10:19 AM (#2197143)

Who's the idiot that scheduled the game at 4pm? Nice to have a game between teams in the two biggest markets in the country that nodoby can actually watch because they have this thing called work.

Including a certain law prof with a class that begins at 5:35, which cannot be cancelled because students are giving graded presentations. I find it hard to believe ESPN really will get better ratings with the Yankees/Detroit in prime time than Mets/Dodogers, but what the hell do I know about these things?

8. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 11:09 AM (#2197202)

I have class until 4:50, but after that I'll be here.

9. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 11:10 AM (#2197204)

Per Metsblog...

"A few moments ago, the Mets officially told reporters the following…

John Maine will start today’s game against the Dodgers…

Orlando Hernandez will not be on the team’s roster for the NLDS. He has a tear in his calf, and is questionable for the NLCS, as well…

Royce Ring and Oliver Perez are on the team’s 25–man roster. Mike DiFelice is not…

Tom Glavine will pitch Game Two, while Steve Trachsel will pitch in Game Three…"

Personally, I hope Royce Ring never sees the mound. And the thought of the possibility of Oliver Perez starting Game 4 scares the crap out of me.

10. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 11:16 AM (#2197213)

Yeah, we're talking about it in the Duque thread Jeremy.

11. Tom D Posted: October 04, 2006 at 11:29 AM (#2197233)

Including a certain law prof with a class that begins at 5:35, which cannot be cancelled because students are giving graded presentations.

I object!

12. Squash Posted: October 04, 2006 at 11:41 AM (#2197243)

I find it hard to believe ESPN really will get better ratings with the Yankees/Detroit in prime time than Mets/Dodogers, but what the hell do I know about these things?

Though I as an A's fan am annoyed that our three games start at 10, 10, and 1 out here, I guess I understand why. In terms of this one, they're probably figuring that Joe Blow in Nebraska might randomly sit down after dinner and watch the Yankees play (Jeter! ARod! Proctor!), but Mets/Dodgers? Probably not. And they know they're getting a lot of viewers in the home markets regardless. Still doesn't make it any less annoying.

13. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 12:03 PM (#2197263)

I get off work at 2 PM, but I'm hoping we are not busy at all and I can follow the game online til then. Not that it matters since I don't know where I could find a tv with ESPN at that time anyway. Either way, lets go mets!

A Met playoff game. Lets do this.

14. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 12:09 PM (#2197268)

Let's Go Mets!

15. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 04, 2006 at 12:10 PM (#2197269)

I have a lab that doesn't finish until 4:20 although we might get out early. BTW, when was the last time the Mets played a game that mattered this season?

16. Billy Wagner's tears Posted: October 04, 2006 at 12:10 PM (#2197270)

Ok wayyyyy concerned here, every team I wanted to win yesterday lost, but that was yesterday right?

The SP scared the crap out of me at the deadline and now my worst fears are realized but.....

Lets Go Mets!

17. AJM Misses Brodeur Posted: October 04, 2006 at 12:30 PM (#2197299)

First playoff game in 6 years, I'm so excited!

LETS GO METS!

18. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 12:42 PM (#2197316)

I would like to go on record in saying that Endy Chavez should be playing every inning, especially when you consider that our suboptimal starting pitching will need all the defensive help it can get. Sorry Cliff, we love you, but Endy's simply the better player at this very moment.

19. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:04 PM (#2197352)

Sorry Cliff, we love you, but Endy's simply the better player at this very moment.

Don't you mean, "Sorry Shawn, we don't even like you much, but Endy's simply the better player at the moment"?

Why in the world should they bench Floyd rather than Green for Endy???

20. zack Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:12 PM (#2197365)

My office building is apparently death to AM, because I can't get any reception in here. Does anyone know of an online stream that will carry the game, or alternatively, an FM station in the DC area?

21. CrosbyBird Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:25 PM (#2197388)

I'm debating whether to hit a bar or to internet watch from work. The latter allows me to look uberproductive at my relatively new job. The former allows me to drink sweet, sweet alcohol.

22. Rob Base Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:29 PM (#2197395)

I'm debating whether to hit a bar or to internet watch from work. The latter allows me to look uberproductive at my relatively new job. The former allows me to drink sweet, sweet alcohol.

I will be sneaking out at 4 to go to the sweet, sweet ESPN zone. Yay position of responsibility!

23. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:30 PM (#2197397)

Sam:
Green, .809 OPS in September.
Floyd, .629 OPS in September.

Green's not any good either, but c'mon, Floyd has shown no indication that he's able to hit or field well right now.

24. Rob Base Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:30 PM (#2197400)

Willie just said on the FAN that he thinks Drew is a more formidable hitter than Nomar due to his batting eye. He's not that stupid, sometimes it seems.

25. billyshears Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:35 PM (#2197410)

I will be sneaking out at 4 to go to the sweet, sweet ESPN zone. Yay position of responsibility!

This was the the major benefit when my firm was in Times Square. The financial district is lacking in good sports bars.

26. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:36 PM (#2197411)

Willie also said that he might use Castro late for defensive purposes. I'm optimistic that he'll pull the right strings in this postseason. Well, except for the foolish decision to carry Ring at the expense of another hitter.

27. Rob Base Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:37 PM (#2197415)

This was the the major benefit when my firm was in Times Square. The financial district is lacking in good sports bars.

what about that irish place right by the WTC site - sort of behind the building with Brooks Brothers/Cleary Gottlieb?

I'll be in the DC espn zone, in case anybody happens by and wants to say hello.

28. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:38 PM (#2197418)

Green, .809 OPS in September.
Floyd, .629 OPS in September.

Sample size, Bob. Sample size. Cliff Floyd had 55 ABs in September. That's nothing. Shawn Green had 80, and most of his good stuff was in one great double-header.

I have zero doubt that Cliff Floyd is a far more dangerous and better hitter than Shawn Green. My outfield would be Floyd-Beltran-Chavez.

29. CrosbyBird Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:39 PM (#2197420)

This was the the major benefit when my firm was in Times Square. The financial district is lacking in good sports bars.

Yeah, there's not much pickings in this area. I'm on Williams Street.

I'm a huge fan of the ESPN zone. Good times.

30. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:53 PM (#2197451)

Okay, my test this afternoon that I barely studied for went better than expected.

Good omen No. 1!

31. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 01:54 PM (#2197453)

Sample size, Bob. Sample size. Cliff Floyd had 55 ABs in September. That's nothing.

It is something when you're trying to show that you're back in the swing of things after a long layoff. He's shown nada. We all have a soft spot in our heart for Cornelius, but the cold truth is that Floyd has done nothing to indicate that he's not the worst option of the three corner OF's. At least Green has good numbers vs. Lowe, and has shown a few signs of life (even in the last week of the season).

Now you could make the argument that Chavez's defense is more valuable in right field, so Floyd should start in left. I might be able to buy that. Of course, I just hope I'm wrong and Floyd hits a 3-run homer today. But it's more likely that he could kill a rally as the first easy out behind all the good hitters.

32. Fat Al Posted: October 04, 2006 at 02:41 PM (#2197541)

I'm going to the Yankees game but want to watch the Mets game. I'm trying to figure out if I can leave work early enough to catch most of the Mets from a bar in the Bronx.

33. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 02:51 PM (#2197564)

any word on the Dodgers lineup? i'm making a scorecard right now.

34. Rob Base Posted: October 04, 2006 at 02:57 PM (#2197576)

It is something when you're trying to show that you're back in the swing of things after a long layoff. He's shown nada. We all have a soft spot in our heart for Cornelius, but the cold truth is that Floyd has done nothing to indicate that he's not the worst option of the three corner OF's. At least Green has good numbers vs. Lowe, and has shown a few signs of life (even in the last week of the season).

Floyd's defense is significantly better than Green's.

35. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 02:59 PM (#2197585)

Dodgers lineup

Gilliam, 2b
Reese, ss
Snider, cf
Robinson, lf
Campanella, c
Hodges, 1b
Furillo, rf
Cox, 3b
Low, P

36. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:05 PM (#2197601)

Rob, are you sure when you consider Floyd's bad Achilles? He's still probably better, but "significantly" might be a stretch.

One more hour till game time. Let's go Mets!

37. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:07 PM (#2197606)

I love the fact the Dodgers have one lefty in the pen, and he's a normal shitty starter.

38. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:23 PM (#2197645)

I love the fact the Dodgers have one lefty in the pen, and he's a normal shitty starter.

That was the HUGE weakness of the teams we faced in 1986. The Astros' Achilles heel that year was the lack of a lefty in the pen, and it was also a problem for the Red Sox, who had Joe Sambito WAY past his prime.

This time around, for a team facing this Mets' line-up, that weakness is a big one. It is quite likely to cost the Dodgers some runs, and it could well cost them a game in this series.

39. Hey, it's what Johan uses (Matt) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:26 PM (#2197654)

Haha! Marlon Anderson in LF? Jesus.

40. Bob Koo Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:30 PM (#2197666)

Marlon can only hit the fastball, so he might do well vs. Maine. What I don't understand is why Nomar and Kent aren't being broken up. That makes it easier for Bradford/Hernandez in the later innings, not to mention that it means that you're hitting your best hitter (Drew) 5th.

41. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:39 PM (#2197685)

Obviously, the Dodgers' line-up is not as dangerous as the Mets. But . . . don't sell them short. Drew and Martin are outstanding hitters, and Kent is dicey. They can score some runs.

And remember: their bench, I think, is actually substantially stronger than ours, with Ethier, Loney, and Lugo (among others). We have Endy and Father Time™. Not comforting. If the Mets are ahead in a close game late, our bullpen will have to deal with some very strong pinch-hitters.

42. Anthropophagus Mets Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:51 PM (#2197715)

If the Mets are ahead in a close game late, our bullpen will have to deal with some very strong pinch-hitters.

You are looking at this the wrong way, Sam. Their pinch-hitters will have to deal with our bullpen. Best in the majors, IMO. I don't care who you have on the bench. If Bradford can get Pujols to GIDP in a big spot, I ain't gonna be scared of Olmedo Saenz.

God, am I nervous.

43. Sam M. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:53 PM (#2197720)

I agree with that, Emad. Absolutely. My point was just to say that we shouldn't be selling the Dodgers short: they are a good team, playing well. To scoff because they are starting Marlon Anderson in LF is to risk ignoring their strengths.

44. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:54 PM (#2197723)

I'm pretty sure time isn't really moving anymore. Let's get on with this!

45. CrosbyBird Posted: October 04, 2006 at 03:57 PM (#2197737)

furcal SS
lofton CF
nomar 1B
kent 2B
drew RF
martin C
anderson LF
betemit 3B
lowe P

reyes SS
loduca C
beltran CF
delgado 1B
wright 3B
floyd LF
green RF
valentin 2B
maine P

46. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:00 PM (#2197743)

What a crazy year for Maine. To think, just two weeks ago, we were talking about how he was most likely gonna be left off the roster...

47. Urban Faber Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:02 PM (#2197751)

How's the weather in NY?

48. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:02 PM (#2197752)

Back from class. LET'S GO METS!!!

49. Chris now in Shanghai! Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:05 PM (#2197759)

Hi from Shea, everyone. Doubt I'll be chatting much when the game begins, but I just wanted to say that it feels great to be here.

Let's go Mets.

50. CrosbyBird Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:05 PM (#2197763)

Blue skies here in downtown Manhattan; beautiful temperature wise.

51. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:08 PM (#2197772)

Hi from Shea, everyone.

You can be our Chris Cotter for this game.

52. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:11 PM (#2197781)

Nice play, Jose!

53. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:11 PM (#2197782)

Nicely done Reyes.

54. billyshears Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:11 PM (#2197786)

Watching the little imitation of a baseball cross the plate on Gamecast is almost as good as seeing the actual game on TV. Thanks again ESPN.

55. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:12 PM (#2197788)

John Maine K! WOO!

56. AJM Misses Brodeur Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:12 PM (#2197789)

Good start!

57. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:13 PM (#2197794)

Get out of the way fans!

58. AJM Misses Brodeur Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:14 PM (#2197795)

Stupid fan, get the #### out of the way!

59. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:14 PM (#2197798)

Wonderful first inning!

60. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:14 PM (#2197799)

That's our boy! Keep it up, Maine!

61. billyshears Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:14 PM (#2197803)

Who needs "major league" pitchers?

62. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#2197807)

You can't ask for a better first inning from Maine.

63. Chris now in Shanghai! Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#2197810)

Can I be Cotter without having to act like a clown?

Nice inning from Maine.

64. CrosbyBird Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#2197811)

Maine appears to be taking Sam's advice. 11 pitches, 9 strikes.

65. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:17 PM (#2197812)

I'm here, boys. Lets go Mets.

66. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:17 PM (#2197813)

Can I be Cotter without having to act like a clown?

Well, I guess, but I don't know what the point is.

67. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:18 PM (#2197815)

Lowe doesn't look that bad a signing by Depodesta now does it?

68. Chris now in Shanghai! Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:18 PM (#2197816)

Can I be Cotter without having to act like a clown?

Nice inning from Maine.

69. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:20 PM (#2197821)

Good eye Beltran!

Let's get on them early Carlos #2!

70. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:20 PM (#2197822)

Beltran is going to run..

71. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:20 PM (#2197823)

I think you are going to see Beltran run more frequently in the playoffs.

72. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:20 PM (#2197824)

I picked the dodgers but I'm rooting for the Mets (Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Bradford, Floyd). Conflicted. Where are the Dodgers fans? They must have the highest fans-to-Primates ratio in MLB.

73. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:21 PM (#2197825)

ALright, Carloses! LET'S GO DAVID!!

74. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:21 PM (#2197826)

Oh, and Delgado most of all. A real class act.

75. AJM Misses Brodeur Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:21 PM (#2197827)

Alright Carloses!

76. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:21 PM (#2197828)

Yes Carlos #2!

Come on D-Wright! Start your Mets playoff history now!

77. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:23 PM (#2197829)

so who is on the top of most games without a postseason appearance list now?
Lots of names came off this year..

78. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:23 PM (#2197830)

Ugh David. That would have been huge.

79. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:23 PM (#2197831)

Seriously, why are they talking about Jeter?

80. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:23 PM (#2197832)

Wright-Jeter comparisons took all of .02 seconds.

81. billyshears Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:24 PM (#2197833)

We need to may Lowe work.

82. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:24 PM (#2197834)

Seriously, why are they talking about Jeter?
all they talked about during the As game wsa Jeter and split coffee

83. Lefty, Monty, And The Moose (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:25 PM (#2197835)

Russlan, they were rabbiting on about Jeter in the Twinkies-As game as well. I think you'll find that escape is impossible.

84. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:25 PM (#2197836)

I think it is Burnitz.

85. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:25 PM (#2197837)

Yes, apparently the smarter southern Californians are Angel fans. That's surprising, given the Angels' location in Orange County.

86. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:26 PM (#2197839)

so who is on the top of most games without a postseason appearance list now?
Lots of names came off this year..

I think I heard somewhere--here, probably--that it's Jeromy Burnitz

87. Chris now in Shanghai! Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:27 PM (#2197840)

Btw, the cell phone conenctivity suck today. Shea isn't used to this many people. Come to think of it, I haven't been here in October since I saw the Boss and the E street band.

88. PhillyBooster Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:28 PM (#2197841)

so who is on the top of most games without a postseason appearance list now?
Lots of names came off this year..

Burnitz is the hitter. Trachsel is the pitcher for a few more days.

89. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:28 PM (#2197842)

Thanks RB and Russlan

Maine looks like he has a good fastball...secondary pitches?

90. Urban Faber Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:28 PM (#2197843)

Damion Easley, I think, has the most service time.

Helton has to be up there too.

91. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:29 PM (#2197844)

Maine's throwing more changeups than usual. I like it.

92. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:30 PM (#2197845)

Damn ####### tapper.

Come on Maine, get out of the jam.

93. Russlan is an overhyped Met BTFer Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:30 PM (#2197846)

Blah, that was horrible.

94. AJM Misses Brodeur Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2197850)

Crap. Get a DP here.

95. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2197851)

Where are the Dodgers fans?

I'm their honorary fan here. Every fifth day I sit and listen to the crickets in the Chatter. Peaceful.

96. BTF's left-wing cheering section (formerly_dp) Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2197853)

HOLY SHITT!!T!!T!TT!!!!

97. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2197854)

That was unspeakably awful.

98. Banta Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2197855)

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!?! THAT WAS GREAT!!!

99. Joshemy Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:32 PM (#2197856)

OH MY GOD! YES!!!

100. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 04, 2006 at 04:32 PM (#2197859)

What the hell was that?!

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