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Sunday, October 05, 2008

Philadelphia Phillies (92-70) @ Milwaukee Brewers (90-72), Sunday, October 5, 2008, 1:07pm

PHI: Joe Blanton (27, RHP, 9-12, 4.69)
MIL: Jeff Suppan (33, RHP, 10-10, 4.96)

The Primer Chimp Posted: October 05, 2008 at 09:00 AM | 68 comment(s)
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1. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 01:03 PM (#2969110)

The Brewers handed out those stupid "thunderstick" things? That's almost enough to make me root against them, despite the fact that I want to see at least one series go to 5 games.

2. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 01:07 PM (#2969112)

Let's go Brewers! Time for big game from Prince. And Sheila E., too.

3. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 01:09 PM (#2969113)

Oh fer chrissakes

4. JJ1986 Posted: October 05, 2008 at 01:10 PM (#2969114)

Not a good start.

5. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 01:28 PM (#2969117)

This team has a lot of slow and ponderous batters. It simply cannot be necessary to adjust your batters gloves after every swing. AND EVER WHEN YOU DON'T SWING.

6. salvomania Posted: October 05, 2008 at 01:45 PM (#2969122)

Nice work by Suppan to weasel out of a jam.

Now let's get some hits, for the dignity of the NL Central!

7. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:00 PM (#2969133)

I hate IBBing there.

8. JJ1986 Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:01 PM (#2969135)

The bottom of the strike zone is very very low today.

9. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:02 PM (#2969137)

Thanks for immediately proving me right, Burrell.

10. JJ1986 Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:03 PM (#2969138)

I hate Jeff Suppan.

11. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:04 PM (#2969140)

Loud boos now.

12. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:04 PM (#2969141)

Suppan is BP.

13. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:06 PM (#2969143)

Just to reiterate, BBing Howard there is incredibly stupid to me. There are two outs, so you're not setting up the DP, and it's not like you're getting to a weak hitter by doing that. You're just putting an extra runner on base for no reason.

14. TOLAXOR Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:07 PM (#2969144)

MEMO TO FORD MARKETING: CHANNELING DAFT PUNK WON'T MAKE THE LINCOLN BRAND ANY COOLER...

15. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:10 PM (#2969146)

Are you even trying to win, Sveum?

16. JJ1986 Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:10 PM (#2969147)

Pinch hitting Sabathia seems a little gimmicky for an elimination game.

17. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:10 PM (#2969148)

It's more than a little gimmicky.

18. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:12 PM (#2969149)

The Cubs and Brewers fought like cats and dogs for six months...for THIS?!?

19. JJ1986 Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:13 PM (#2969151)

It's more than a little gimmicky.

I'm not sure what the other options are. Weeks is injured, Rivera's the backup catcher so he won't be used. That leaves Hall, Nelson and Gwynn and they'll need at least two more pinch hitters this game. So it's Sabathia v. Gwynn. Still not a good move.

20. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:14 PM (#2969153)

Whoah. Gallardo?

21. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:16 PM (#2969155)

"Dale, as there's really not much left to say after that last inning, could you do us all a favor and explain the pronunciation of your last name?"

22. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:18 PM (#2969157)

If Gallardo was available to pitch, why the #### didn't he start the game?

23. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:19 PM (#2969158)

Sveum manages like he coached third base.

24. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:20 PM (#2969159)

Seriously, that's the stupidest ####### thing I can imagine.

25. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:20 PM (#2969160)

I'm not even remotely a Brewers fan, but it offends my sensibilities terribly.

26. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:25 PM (#2969162)

If Gallardo was available to pitch, why the #### didn't he start the game?

Someone who's available to only pitch 2 or 3 innings isn't necessarily someone you need starting the game.

27. JJ1986 Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:28 PM (#2969165)

Someone who's available to only pitch 2 or 3 innings isn't necessarily someone you need starting the game.

It would have still been better to piece Gallardo, McClung and Parra together to get through than trusting Suppan. No manager would have done that, though, so it's hard to fault Sveum.

28. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:29 PM (#2969166)

Plenty of managers would have done that.

29. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:32 PM (#2969167)

Sure. In an elimination game, everybody has to be ready to play. If the starter looks like he's going to have a rough day, you get him out of there and try someone else.

30. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:34 PM (#2969169)

For instance, Francona did basically that with Derek Lowe in game 7 of the 2004 ALCS. He pitched game 4, and then came back and started game 7 with no off days in there at all, and he was on a very short pitch count. Now, he ended up making it through 6 innings, but on only ~70 pitches, which was all they were going to let him throw whether it was 6 innings or 3.

31. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:34 PM (#2969171)

I don't really think so, Dan. Seriously. It isn't like Suppan is THAT worthless, and he did torture some opposing teams in the postseason in the past.

32. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:35 PM (#2969172)

He allowed 30 home runs this year. He had an ERA+ of 87. That isn't "worthless" for an elimination game?

33. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:38 PM (#2969174)

It isn't like Suppan is THAT worthless, and he did torture some opposing teams in the postseason in the past.

Yeah, he tortured the Cardinals in '04.

34. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:40 PM (#2969176)

He allowed 30 home runs this year. He had an ERA+ of 87.

To paraphrase John Adams:

" A 1.542 WHIP and 30 homers go ill together."

35. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:41 PM (#2969177)

My bad. It was Edmund Burke.

But Adams thought of it first.

36. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:47 PM (#2969179)

I admit, the longer Gallardo pitches, the stupider it seems not to have started him.

37. HighandOutside Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:48 PM (#2969180)

Am I off base here or, does it seem that just as the strike zone expands on 3-0 counts, it shrinks to the size of a dime on 0-2 counts. It is really frustrating

38. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:49 PM (#2969181)

Weird play.

39. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:49 PM (#2969182)

OK, that was insane.

40. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:50 PM (#2969185)

Am I off base here or, does it seem that just as the strike zone expands on 3-0 counts, it shrinks to the size of a dime on 0-2 counts. It is really frustrating

It's seemed like that as long as I've been watching baseball, really.

41. PatrickInTheWoods, Apostate Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:54 PM (#2969186)

Shouldn't you get something for hitting stuff hanging down? He still should be out, if the defense catches it (because that's a good play too). Maybe single/FC?

42. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:02 PM (#2969191)

Blanton missed with strikes 2 and 3 to braun, with bot pitches being right fown the middle, and braun watching both of them. Weird.

Weren't balls hit off the roof structure at the astrodome ruled singles?

43. HighandOutside Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2969192)

Lassus, maybe I'm just noticing it more lately with all this talk about the length of games...To me, the best way to speed up games to to have umpires call strikes..On the other hand, I could watch Blanton pitch like this all day

44. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:09 PM (#2969195)

comments on earlier events:
Didn't think IBBing Howard was horrible. Howard has been a better hitter of late. Didn't work out in the end. PLaying the platoon odds, but apparently Burrell owns Suppan lately...

As for PHing Sabathia...it's a low importance bat. 1 out, bottom of 3rd inning, nobody on. Save the good PH for a situation later when you need it. Sabathia probably has just as good a shot as hitting a HR as most of the other brewers bench players.

45. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:12 PM (#2969198)

oh..i would've PH for Blanton after last inning. he turns into a pumpkin in a hurry. (and as I type this Fielder takes him yard)

46. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:13 PM (#2969201)

Woohoo!

47. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:14 PM (#2969203)

Blame TBS for the length of the game. They stuck in 30 seconds more commercials per innings break at the last minute.

48. kevin Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:32 PM (#2969222)

Pat the Bat.

49. Repoz Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:43 PM (#2969241)

"Big boy" ?

50. Nathan Kunkel Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:43 PM (#2969243)

go Phillies

51. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:46 PM (#2969246)

Feliz/Ruiz/PH this inning.

odds of scoring a run here are atrocious.

How come with the game on the line last night, he didn't PH Coste for Ruiz? I understand it now (defense) but Ruiz wasn't coming back on the field last night.

52. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:47 PM (#2969249)

I think Fieldin Culbreth is the only person who could've thwarted the Eddie Gaedel experiment...
Some of these strikes would be low to a squirrel.

53. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:53 PM (#2969259)

Feliz/Ruiz/PH this inning. odds of scoring a run here are atrocious.

After Feliz's seeing eye single, I was worried about my statement, then Ruiz and Stairs did what they could to hold down the fort.

54. Textbook Editor Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:56 PM (#2969260)

If the Phillies pull this out, they have home field for the NLCS, right?

55. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:57 PM (#2969262)

I'M NOT DEAD YET!

56. Textbook Editor Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:57 PM (#2969263)

Ole!

57. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:57 PM (#2969264)

Correct.

58. Textbook Editor Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:58 PM (#2969265)

I really hate not caring about baserunners. For a minimal effort, you can keep a guy at 1st. It's nuts to give up bases willy-nilly, I don't care if you have a 4 run lead.

59. Textbook Editor Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:59 PM (#2969266)

Thanks, Dan.

60. Dan Posted: October 05, 2008 at 03:59 PM (#2969267)

Too, they'd have a 5 run lead if they were paying attention to baserunners.

61. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:00 PM (#2969268)

I really hate not caring about baserunners. For a minimal effort, you can keep a guy at 1st. It's nuts to give up bases willy-nilly, I don't care if you have a 4 run lead.

I'm with you here. Annoying. If you don't care about the runner, why do you care about throwing a ball into CF or the RF bleachers?

62. will Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:01 PM (#2969271)

Way to go Phillies ! All is right with the world ! Beat L.A. !

63. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:02 PM (#2969272)

Woo Hoo NLDS!

64. Textbook Editor Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:02 PM (#2969273)

It cost the Red Sox that Twins game where Papelbon blew the save--he just flat-out ignored the base runners with a 3 run lead... and lo and behold, it's much easier to score standing on 3rd or 2nd than 1st base. Crazy.

I like the rather subdued celebration here, like there is still work to be done.

65. Lassus Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:03 PM (#2969274)

Stupid Phillies.

66. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:03 PM (#2969276)

Congrats to the Phillies. Nice to see not all the superior teams are going home in the first round.

67. Harris Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:11 PM (#2969285)

nice series brewers fans...y'all just couldn't get the bats going against Myers and Blanton. Good luck next year. I like a lot of players on the Brewers in Hardy/Fielder/Braun/Hart/Hall.
I realize Hall and Hart aren't in the hearts of a lot of brewers fans, but I think they're good players.

68. Repoz Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:20 PM (#2969295)

My Red Sox - Phillies final marches on!

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