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Tuesday, September 27, 2005

Pittsburgh Pirates (63-94) at Chicago Cubs (77-79) - 8:05 PM EDT

PIT: Duke (6-2, 1.94)
CHC: Maddux (13-13, 4.14)

Maddux’s drive for a million seasons with 15+ wins continues.

Sean McNally Posted: September 27, 2005 at 09:30 AM | 48 comment(s)
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   1. Sweet Posted: September 27, 2005 at 12:26 PM (#1645784)
Just looking at the box score from Maddux's last start. 8 innings, 78 pitches. 55 strikes. Only 23 balls. 23 balls in 8 innings! Holy smokes. Someone tell Jayson Stark.

Update on races:

Lee SLG: .672
Neifi OPS: .687

Murton VORP: 13.1
Other Outfield VORP: 13.4 (w/o Macias)

Zambrano hitting VORP: 13.2
Neifi hitting VORP: 12.4
   2. 1k5v3L Posted: September 27, 2005 at 12:28 PM (#1645789)
With Macias, 2B, and Neifi, SS, leading off today, I suspect Maddux will have to pitch really damn well to have a shot at winning...
   3. retro-shiite Posted: September 27, 2005 at 01:13 PM (#1645904)
Against Duke, no less. Screw you, Dusty. The only remaining interests I have in this Cub season are Maddux's quest for 15 wins, and the chance to knock the Astros out of the playoffs.
   4. Bob T Posted: September 27, 2005 at 02:43 PM (#1646170)
Have the Pirates even made it to Chicago? They played a very very very long game last night in L.A.

And who has a better name J.J. Furmaniak or Tom Gorzelannny?
   5. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 03:10 PM (#1646268)
The only remaining interests I have in this Cub season are Maddux’s quest for 15 wins, and the chance to knock the Astros out of the playoffs.

I would take no small pleasure in knocking Houston out of the wild card.

But the rest of this week... meh. We're not trying anything even halfway interesting, just running the same ######## lineups out there day after day in hopes that maybe *this* will be the game where Macias and Neifi at the top of the order makes any ####### sense to anyone not named Dusty Baker.
   6. Sweet Posted: September 27, 2005 at 03:48 PM (#1646373)
I'm excerpting a long passage from Jayson Stark's ESPN article on Bobby Cox. You'll understand why once you read it.

***
The Tale of Kelly Johnson is the tale that says it all about the 2005 Braves.

On Memorial Day weekend, after it had finally become apparent that Raul Mondesi wasn't an Atlanta kind of guy, the Braves called up a 23-year-old outfielder to replace him.

And two weeks later, Kelly Johnson was embarrassed to look up at his average on the scoreboard -- since it was .033 (1 for 30).

So how did the manager react? By putting him in the lineup the next day. How else?

It's a tale the veteran players in Bobby Cox's clubhouse love spinning -- because it sums up the way of life and leadership that has led them to title No. 14.

"Anywhere else, a kid goes 0 for 20 -- he's gone," Perez laughs. "Not here."

Nope. Never even occurred to this manager. OK, that 1-for-30 wasn't real picturesque -- "but he looked good doing it," Cox says, sounding as if he's talking about a guy hitting .450. "And he was walking and getting on base. And he wasn't striking out at all."

So what did the manager tell this kid -- a kid who easily could have come to the conclusion he might never get his career average over .100?

"I told him, 'Quit listening to so many other people and don't change a damn thing,' " Cox says. "I just said, 'Be yourself.'"

So of course, Kelly Johnson then went 14 for his next 34 (.412). And has hit close to .270 since. And has, more than anything, fit right in on another journey of Bobby Cox's First Place Express.

Talented as this group of Braves rookies might be, is there any other team that could have plugged in this many of them and just kept on rolling? Is there any other manager who could have made this work?

"I don't think so," Schuerholz says, "because if it's someone who is more demanding, more volatile, more unsettled or more unsettling, that makes it all the more difficult for young guys to respond and play comfortably in a championship setting under these kinds of circumstances. But Bobby makes it possible for them to do that."

And it isn't as if Cox just stumbled upon that approach three months ago, either. There was a time, remember, when the young guys in his clubhouse were named Smoltz and Glavine and Jones. And they all turned out OK, we hear.

"The thing about Bobby is, he gives you confidence when you don't even think you're worthy of it," Smoltz says. "In 1991, he stuck with me even though I was 2-11 and the fans were pushing him to put me in the bullpen. And I could give you 20 stories like that with individual players."

How many managers have we all witnessed who would rather send a kid to the Southern League than send him back out there after a couple of weeks of struggles? But in Atlanta, that isn't how it works. Not just because the kids have talent. Because the manager believes in that talent.

It's all about "faith and patience," Bobby Cox says. "You've got to have that. They're up here for a reason. They've earned it. You don't want to give up on them and not give them a good look. You've got to give them a chance to show their talent.

"I don't think anybody should be able to say, 'This kid can't play,' after watching them for two or three games. I know some people do that. But somebody had to have faith in them to push them up here. So I go along with that."

And as he goes, you may have noticed, so go the Atlanta Braves.
   7. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 03:52 PM (#1646382)
“I don’t think anybody should be able to say, ‘This kid can’t play,’ after watching them for two or three games. I know some people do that. But somebody had to have faith in them to push them up here. So I go along with that.”

They ought to paint this in big black letters on the wall across from Dusty's desk in the manager's office. Just let him stare at it day after day after day, until maybe it finally sinks in.
   8. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 04:45 PM (#1646529)
Dusty would sit and stare at those big black letters until, one bright morning, he'd realise the solution was to fire Oneri Fleita for having faith in the kids in the first place.
   9. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 04:51 PM (#1646555)
You know, I think that, if Jim Hendry sees that article, he might pay it some attention. It wasn't entirely coincidental that Murton and Greenberg were called up right after the Cubs were swept in Atlanta this summer.
   10. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 04:56 PM (#1646579)
How many managers have we all witnessed who would rather send a kid to the Southern League than send him back out there after a couple of weeks of struggles?

Hell, Baker sent Murton back after weeks of hitting 350.
   11. Bull Pain Posted: September 27, 2005 at 05:00 PM (#1646592)
And who has a better name J.J. Furmaniak or Tom Gorzelannny?

And just in case you didn't already know that Chicago is the coolest city (or metropolitan area) with the coolest people in the world, Furmaniak is from Bolingbrook and Gorzelanny is from Orland Park.
   12. retro-shiite Posted: September 27, 2005 at 05:04 PM (#1646604)
The Bucs do like those Polish Chicago-area products, don't they? Mackowiak's from Chicago as well.
   13. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 05:05 PM (#1646613)
I'm waiting for the Pirates to play the Cardinals so we can have the epic Gorzelanny vs Grudzelanek matchup.
   14. Sweet Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:15 PM (#1646911)
Lineup:

Theriot
Perez
Lee
Nomar
Barrett
Burnitz
Murton
Patterson
Maddux

Baker with a sympathy start for Louisiana native Theriot.
   15. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:17 PM (#1646919)
Theriot? Wow.

I thought it would take a broken leg to get Macias back to the bench.
   16. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:21 PM (#1646936)
Wow. Ryan The Riot gets a game. I had a feeling that might happen, seeing as how the Bucs games are the only pair where Dusty won't need to respect the integrity of the game..yadda..yadda..etc.

I hope Theriot does OK, although I don't see him having any real place in future plans.
   17. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:30 PM (#1646975)
I thought it would take a broken leg to get Macias back to the bench.

He's being saved for that bases-loaded, 2 outs, 1-run deficit, bottom of the 9th, groundout to first.
   18. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:30 PM (#1646976)
I still fail to see how Macias and Neifi at the top of the lineup respects the integrity of the game. If I were one of the teams chasing Houston, I'd feel like the Astros had paid Dusty off to write in the most ludicrous lineup possible.

Either that, or the Cubs want to make sure that Lee isn't the MVP so he'll be cheaper to resign in the future.
   19. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:33 PM (#1646988)
He’s being saved for that bases-loaded, 2 outs, 1-run deficit, bottom of the 9th, groundout to first.

That's crazy. When do the Cubs ever load the bases?
   20. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:34 PM (#1646989)
UCCF - Since we discussed the matter of Lee's XBH, he's had three more. Predictably, he's also only had three more RBI.
   21. Urban Faber Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:36 PM (#1646994)
Dusty might be resting Macias for the big games against the Astros.
   22. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:36 PM (#1646997)
When do the Cubs ever load the bases?

Every other time they have to go to the bullpen.
   23. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 07:55 PM (#1647098)
UCCF - Since we discussed the matter of Lee’s XBH, he’s had three more. Predictably, he’s also only had three more RBI.

He only needs 3 more to get to 100. I hope he makes it, just for the ridiculously low RBI total that will set the record.
   24. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 08:01 PM (#1647130)
He's also just 5 hits shy of 200. Further evidence of Baker's criminality.
   25. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1647180)
A pitch-out on a 2-2 count does not seem real smart.
   26. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 08:32 PM (#1647279)
Lee doubles with none on and two out in the 1st, and the Cubs don't score.

It's like deja vu to about 30 other 1st innings this year.
   27. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 08:37 PM (#1647300)
Murton sucks. Macias would have hit that over the wall.

Free Todd Hollandsworth!

Er, Reacquire Todd Hollandsworth!
   28. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 09:00 PM (#1647428)
If Nomar and Mia have a daughter, will they call her Aim?
   29. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 09:45 PM (#1647612)
When FSN Ohio come out with the same line, I realise how stunningly unoriginal post #28 is.
   30. Neil M Posted: September 27, 2005 at 10:17 PM (#1647818)
The Maddux streak is over.
   31. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: September 27, 2005 at 10:29 PM (#1647875)
Maybe they can use him in relief, a la Randy Johnson with the Mariners.
   32. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 01:44 PM (#1648745)
Prior had better pitch a shutout:

Macias
Perez
Lee
Nomar
Murton
Burnitz
Blanco
Patterson
Prior

Update on races:

Neifi OPS: .678
Lee SLG: .671

Neifi VORP: 11.9
Zambrano hitting VORP: 13.2

Murton VORP: 14.4
Burnitz VORP: 16.9
All non-Murton outfield VORP: 11.5

When it's all said and done, the Cubs will have essentially fielded a replacement-level outfield this year. Ok, maybe a slightly lucky replacement-level outfield. Sort of staggers the mind.
   33. Neil M Posted: September 28, 2005 at 01:54 PM (#1648761)
One more race to watch: -

Neifi 18 BB

Murton 16 BB.

It's all very exciting.
   34. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 02:30 PM (#1648842)
I can barely "watch" Prior pitch anymore. The 25-30 pitch innings are just too frustrating.
   35. Neil M Posted: September 28, 2005 at 02:35 PM (#1648851)
Prior's breaking ball has hardly been there at all this season. I don't know if this is precautionary in light of his elbow injury, but I hope he has it back next year.

Theriot was to start today but has food poisoning.
   36. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 02:41 PM (#1648867)
Theriot was to start today but has food poisoning.

You don't see Jose Macias going and getting food poisoning, do you? It's his veteran's stomach, that's why.
   37. Neil M Posted: September 28, 2005 at 02:50 PM (#1648898)
Nomar's throw to 2nd hit Cota on the head and skipped into the outfield. Shades of LaTroy.
   38. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 02:55 PM (#1648912)
Fitting play for the last home game.
   39. Neil M Posted: September 28, 2005 at 03:00 PM (#1648922)
Maybe they're doing a Season In Revue thing. Lots of balks and botched run-downs still to come.
   40. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 04:00 PM (#1649048)
Also a fitting final start for Prior. Like the rest of year, it was short and thoroughly unspectacular.

By my count, Prior only had one spectacular game this year -- July 14th vs. Pittsburgh, where he gave up 2 hits, no earned runs, and struck out 10 in 8 innings. Game Score of 83. He had maybe two other very good games, a handful of good games, and many more average or below average ones. His average Game Score was 57.
   41. The Run Fairy Posted: September 28, 2005 at 04:04 PM (#1649053)
¡José es espectacular!
   42. Neil M Posted: September 28, 2005 at 04:10 PM (#1649062)
A new problem for Dusty. Does he keep Macias in the lead-off position or does he put him in the clean-up spot? Tough choice.
   43. Dingbat Charlie Posted: September 28, 2005 at 04:29 PM (#1649104)
I haven't seen Williamson pitch since TJ #2. How is his velocity now?
   44. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 05:02 PM (#1649202)
If Macias gets a hit here, he's definitely back next year. Probably as the starting 2B.
   45. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 05:04 PM (#1649209)
Bases loaded with nobody out and they don't score. Speaking of fitting endings -- I wish that had been the final game of the season.
   46. Sweet Posted: September 28, 2005 at 05:05 PM (#1649215)
The silver lining, I suppose, is that Dusty is denied a winning season.
   47. Neil M Posted: September 28, 2005 at 05:06 PM (#1649216)
That half-inning was a microcosm of the entire ####### season. All the wrong bats at the crucial moment. Really dismal.
   48. 1k5v3L Posted: September 28, 2005 at 05:10 PM (#1649235)
I'm sure Dusty will take Macias into the showers and shampoo his heads to rub off any worries before the game tomorrow. I mean, Dusty's got championships to win...
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