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Saturday, June 30, 2007

Rangers (32-47) at Red Sox (49-29) - 7:05 pm EDT

TEX: R. Tejeda (5-7, 6.57)
BOS: J. Beckett (11-1, 3.07)

NTNgod Posted: June 30, 2007 at 03:05 AM | 481 comment(s)
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1. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 01:11 PM (#2423829)

The Rangers pitching staff is totally Jeckel and Hyde, starters and 'pen: 6.54/3.59 ERA's.

2. Darren Posted: June 30, 2007 at 04:00 PM (#2423948)

Yankees get shutout 7-0 today--puts me a in a good mood for the night game. Maybe the Sox will score some runs tonight for a change?

3. Darren Posted: June 30, 2007 at 04:24 PM (#2424019)

Ellsbury has been called up and Pineiro DL'ed.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...as/extra_bases/

4. Joe Bivens, Lightning Rod Posted: June 30, 2007 at 04:46 PM (#2424072)

Look for Joe Bivens and niece of Joe Bivens tonight sitting in section 26 of the grandstands. She'll have a sill little sign, and I will be wearing a red shirt. YEAH FREE TICKETS!!!!

5. Joe Bivens, Lightning Rod Posted: June 30, 2007 at 04:47 PM (#2424075)

Silly. A silly sign.

6. PJ Martinez Posted: June 30, 2007 at 04:58 PM (#2424100)

And Ellsbury is starting and batting 9th. And I imagine that's not just for tonight, either. Probably the case until Coco heals, which I assume must be at least a few days away for them to make this move.

7. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 05:31 PM (#2424158)

Yankees get shutout 7-0 today--puts me a in a good mood for the night game.

Same here. Did you notice that Jason Kendall homered off Igawa? That's just-give-up-now material. Jason Kendall. hee hee

8. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 06:32 PM (#2424311)

Crossposting from ST, here's Ellsbury's combined MLE for the season: 292/357/387, 24 SB, 7 CS

9. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 06:40 PM (#2424329)

Lineups:

oston:

2B-Dustin Pedroia
1B Kevin Youklis
DH-David Ortiz
LF Manny Ramirez
RF J.D. Drew
3B Mike Lowell
C Jason Varitek
SS Alex Cora
CF Jacoby Ellsbury
SP Josh Beckett

Texas:
CF Kenny Lofton
2B Jerry Hairston
SS Michael Young
DH Sammy Sosa
LF Frank Catalanotto
RF Marlon Byrd
C Gerald Laird
3B Ramon Vazquez
SP Robinson Tejeda

Along with the lineups, Cafardo reports at the Extra Bases blog that Matt Clement is rehabbing:

Matt Clement, who underwent major shoulder surgery last summer, threw in the bullpen at about 70 percent according to manager Terry Francona, which was pretty impressive.

Actually, more from that report, he's got fun stuff:

I asked one Sox executive who's faster, Ellsbury or Crisp? evidently it's pretty close. I was told that Double-A pitching prospect Clay Buchholz is faster than both of them.

See? Fun.

10. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 06:50 PM (#2424345)

Jason Kendall. hee hee

It was a seriously cheesy HR, right down the LF line, almost a wall-skimmer type.

11. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 06:53 PM (#2424353)

Same here. Did you notice that Jason Kendall homered off Igawa? That's just-give-up-now material. Jason Kendall. hee hee

And then Shannon Stewart, who hits about 10 HR a year, made it back-to-back.

It was a seriously cheesy HR, right down the LF line, almost a wall-skimmer type.

Well, how else do you expect Kendall to hit one?

12. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 06:57 PM (#2424359)

In regards to the "must-win game" debate - which I think is more a chatter than a therapy debate - I don't think this is must-win, because I don't think there can be a must-win game in the Red Sox situation, 10 games up at midseason. It's a game that would be wildly frustrating to lose, but the Red Sox are not the sort of team that would let one loss send them into a tailspin or something, and that's the only way I can see a game in this situation being "must-win."

13. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:03 PM (#2424366)

Remy says that Ellsbury was called up because "Coco's thumb was a little worse than expected" whatever the crap that means.

14. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:05 PM (#2424369)

I just turned it on. I assume the guy singing the anthem has some sort of mental handicap?

15. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:05 PM (#2424370)

WTF is this?

16. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:05 PM (#2424371)

CF Jacoby Ellsbury

Giddy Up!!!!

17. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:07 PM (#2424372)

Jacoby is kind of shrimpy, no?

18. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:08 PM (#2424373)

Lugo sits also I see.

19. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:10 PM (#2424375)

I have the world greatest hangover

20. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:10 PM (#2424376)

So nasty! That's as good a fastball as I've seen from Beckett.

21. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:11 PM (#2424378)

NESN gun has Beckett hitting 97 MPH here.

22. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:12 PM (#2424379)

So nasty! That's as good a fastball as I've seen from Beckett.

Remy noted it was the 2-seamer, which he barely threw in the past.

23. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:12 PM (#2424380)

greatest hangover

Explain.

24. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:12 PM (#2424381)

Evening, floks.

Pumped Ellsbury's in the lineup?

25. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:13 PM (#2424382)

Beckett hitting the glove in the 1st...

26. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:13 PM (#2424383)

That's "folks", before anyone stats asking for my head.

27. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:14 PM (#2424384)

Pumped Ellsbury's in the lineup?

Exceptionally excited

28. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:14 PM (#2424385)

Pumped Ellsbury's in the lineup?

Yes and no. Coco was coming on pretty good...

29. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:15 PM (#2424386)

I likely the Ellsbury Pedroia Youks sequence. That's going to be tough to pitch to without allowing baserunners.

30. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:15 PM (#2424387)

Somebody put LSD in his Molsen.

31. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:16 PM (#2424388)

Explain.

Saturday

Watched what I am calling our ' worst win of the year' then ran into major stock take issues that were not resolved till 10 pm local time. Had about a dozen beers and a truckload of Pampero before 4am. Took a sleeping tablet and woke up to see Jacoby is called up.

Awesome

32. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:17 PM (#2424389)

It would be nice to see more than two decent ABs tonight on offense, which is all we got last night.

33. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:17 PM (#2424390)

dozen beers and a truckload of Pampero before 4am. Took a sleeping tablet and woke up to see Jacoby is called up.

Might wanna avoid the pills and the booze?

34. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:18 PM (#2424392)

There's one.

35. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:18 PM (#2424394)

Yeah, a leadoff runner--.402 OBP now.

36. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:20 PM (#2424396)

Take a few in a row, Youks.

37. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:21 PM (#2424398)

Connors: "Don't be nervous. Throw strikes."

Tejada: "Go away."

38. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:21 PM (#2424399)

It's definitely not good when you've got a 9.00+ ERA over your last 7 starts, and your pitching coach is already making a visit after only the second batter you've faced.

39. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:22 PM (#2424400)

They really must score some runs here

Might wanna avoid the pills and the booze?

Highly stressfull life. I'm fine

40. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:22 PM (#2424402)

It would be great if we could pile on the runs tonight. Off to a good start!

41. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:22 PM (#2424403)

Yes!

42. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:23 PM (#2424404)

It would be nice to see more than two decent ABs tonight on offense, which is all we got last night.

One was Drews, I can't remember the other....

43. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:23 PM (#2424405)

When was Papi's last home run?

44. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:24 PM (#2424406)

Tek as a pinch hitter Phil.

45. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:24 PM (#2424407)

I hope this is one of those "11 runs" nights.

46. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:24 PM (#2424408)

No way the 1-0 to Manny was a strike, not even close.

47. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:25 PM (#2424409)

Tek as a pinch hitter Phil.

Of course

48. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:25 PM (#2424410)

Anybody drinking ?

49. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:25 PM (#2424411)

Highly stressfull life. I'm fine

Just don't do that? You could end up a vegetable.

50. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:25 PM (#2424412)

Chad Gaudin!!!!

Just saw the score

51. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:26 PM (#2424414)

Manny got screwed by that bad strike call. He wouldn't have had to chase that pitch.

52. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:26 PM (#2424415)

Anybody drinking ?

Last night I was.

53. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:27 PM (#2424417)

The Yankees are ######. Even Kay admits it now.

I'm wondering if is going to call them "unprofessional" at some point?

54. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:27 PM (#2424418)

Smell the RBI's Mikey boy.

55. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2424419)

Thanks for putting another baserunner on with only 1 out.

56. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2424420)

Anybody drinking ?

Nah, at work now

57. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2424421)

2-0 with the sacks loaded is good.

58. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2424422)

Now, with his control struggling, he has no place to put anybody.

59. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2424423)

April/May Lowell ihts that one out.

60. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:29 PM (#2424424)

Almost a really bad play by Papi.

61. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:29 PM (#2424426)

Last night was an Aussie wine night: Wolf-Blass Gold Label Coonawarra Cab. An '02.

62. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:29 PM (#2424425)

Not sure what Varitek is doing on that first pitch.

63. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:30 PM (#2424427)

Hope you mailordered it from Phil, Chip.

64. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:30 PM (#2424428)

Costco.

65. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:30 PM (#2424429)

When was Papi's last home run?

He hit homers on June 19 and June 20.

66. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:31 PM (#2424430)

Horrible at-bat from Varitek. Just 2 runs there feels like a major squander.

67. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:31 PM (#2424431)

Last night was an Aussie wine night: Wolf-Blass Gold Label Coonawarra Cab. An '02.

Good vintage. How was the wine?

68. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:32 PM (#2424432)

Well, at least Ellsbury might come up with baserunners next inning.

69. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:33 PM (#2424433)

Phil, what's your favorite Aussie Red?

70. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:34 PM (#2424435)

Ellsbury!!

71. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:35 PM (#2424436)

Tasty. Nice depth.

Between that and the New Zealand whites, I've found some very good stuff at Costco lately. I can't get enough of the Kim Crawford sauvignon blanc.

There's the first of Catalanotto's 12 hits over the next three days.

72. Nick Warino Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:35 PM (#2424437)

Jacoby is a pretty good looking guy.

And of course Catalanotto gets a hit.

73. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:36 PM (#2424439)

FWIW, Remy really warming up to Dusty.

74. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:37 PM (#2424440)

Gives up a baserunner, and still only has a 7-pitch inning.

75. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:39 PM (#2424442)

18 pitches, 15 strikes for Beckett. 1 baserunner

When you see stuff like that, it means the hitters can't catch up to his stuff.

76. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:39 PM (#2424444)

Somebody else mentioned it, but those KFC bowls are beyond disgusting, no? Hey, what kind of wine goes with one of those babies?

77. Nick Warino Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:39 PM (#2424443)

FYI...

Catalanotto has a career .314/.375/.514 line with 11 HR against the Red Sox in his career. His OPS is 18% better against the Sox than everyone else. In contrast, his OPS is 18% WORST against the Yankees than everyone else.

Damn him.

78. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:39 PM (#2424445)

I don't really understand what Beckett's done to increase his groundball rate, but it's working, and I like it.

79. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:40 PM (#2424449)

Good little ballplayer, that guy.

RBI chance for the rookie here.

80. Nick Warino Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:40 PM (#2424450)

Look! An extra-base hit from our SS! Hell...a hit from our SS!

81. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:40 PM (#2424451)

Triple!

82. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:40 PM (#2424452)

Catalanotto has a career .314/.375/.514 line with 11 HR against the Red Sox in his career.

That's it? It feels much worse.

83. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:41 PM (#2424454)

I can't get enough of the Kim Crawford sauvignon blanc.

Stock took the bastard yesterday

84. kevin Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:41 PM (#2424455)

Nice hand for Ellsbury.

85. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:41 PM (#2424456)

Not only are the bowls obviously disgusting, but everyone in that ad needs a good cockpunching.

not your best, Jacoby, did it hit the platE?

86. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:41 PM (#2424457)

Well, that was not the optimal way to start a major league career.

87. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:41 PM (#2424458)

Well, that's a pretty sad first-ever major league at bat.

88. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:41 PM (#2424459)

That might be the worst first MLB AB in history.

89. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:42 PM (#2424461)

Dusty getting the rookie treatment, up and in?

90. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:43 PM (#2424462)

how often do you see Petunia swing and miss twice in an atbat?

91. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:43 PM (#2424463)

Somebody else mentioned it, but those KFC bowls are beyond disgusting, no? Hey, what kind of wine goes with one of those babies?

I think it's this.

92. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:43 PM (#2424464)

three time, wow

93. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:43 PM (#2424465)

That was unexpected.

We hate runners on third with no outs. They never score.

94. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:43 PM (#2424466)

Crap. Chased.

95. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:43 PM (#2424467)

Oh good, we're back to stringing together awful ABs.

96. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:44 PM (#2424468)

We hate runners on third with no outs. They never score.

I stand corrected!

97. Chip Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:44 PM (#2424469)

Way to bail out the rookies, Youks.

98. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:44 PM (#2424470)

We hate runners on third with no outs. They never score.

Sometimes they do.

99. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:44 PM (#2424471)

that'll make up nicely for the two terrible ABs previous. Youks crushed that.

100. tfbg9 Posted: June 30, 2007 at 07:44 PM (#2424472)

ka-Blooey!!!

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