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Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Toronto Blue Jays (11-15) @ Boston Red Sox (15-12), Tuesday, April 29, 2008, 7:05pm

TOR: Roy Halladay (31, RHP, 2-3, 3.73)
BOS: Jon Lester (24, LHP, 1-2, 5.40)

The Primer Chimp Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:00 AM | 191 comment(s)
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101. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:14 PM (#2763373)

I don't know, I think I'd just bring in Papelbon personally. But I'm sure I'm just feeling gunshy after the Buchholz game.

102. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:16 PM (#2763380)

Halladay's cutter or slider or whatever it is that's in the low 90s is an absolutely sick pitch.

103. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:18 PM (#2763388)

I think we go with Lester here - very very short leash

104. Rafael Bellylard (p8p) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:18 PM (#2763389)

Is Lester coming out for the 9th?

105. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:18 PM (#2763390)

If you someone told me before tonight that Lester would have matched Halladay with 8 scoreless innings with the same exact pitch count, I would have laughed in his face.

106. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM (#2763392)

paps is in

107. Third True Outcome Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM (#2763393)

I wouldn't have minded Lester starting the inning here, but I certainly can't find fault with this.

108. Rafael Bellylard (p8p) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM (#2763394)

Paps in, according to Gameday

109. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM (#2763395)

Err...scratch that you.

110. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:20 PM (#2763398)

Hopefully Papelbon can go 2 innings.

111. ekogan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:20 PM (#2763397)

Lester was cruising

112. Textbook Editor Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:20 PM (#2763402)

Papelbon here makes that game in Tampa Bay all the more absurd.

113. John DiFool2 Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:20 PM (#2763405)

Finally see our ace reliever.

114. Rafael Bellylard (p8p) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:21 PM (#2763409)

I'd have left Lester in until he either ended the inning or gave up a baserunner.

115. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:21 PM (#2763413)

Not really, TE. I don't agree with it, but the reasoning is that you want Papelbon to pitch the bottom half when you get the lead on the road, which is a non-issue at home.

116. John DiFool2 Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:22 PM (#2763417)

Paps has been unconscious this year. Something like 20 K's 1 BB...

117. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:23 PM (#2763421)

When he was actually pitching more than once a week, he was in the top 10 in the league in Ks.

118. Textbook Editor Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:24 PM (#2763427)

Ah, our old friend the standup fastball.

119. John DiFool2 Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:25 PM (#2763432)

Pure Unadulterated Grade A American Heat.

120. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:25 PM (#2763434)

Stand up fastball!!

121. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2763436)

Pure Unadulterated Grade A American Heat.

That made me laugh

122. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2763435)

Hooray, we're the home team so Papelbon is allowed to pitch!

123. Third True Outcome Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2763437)

I'm pretty sure Paps could tell every hitter exactly what he was about to throw and still strike pretty much everyone out.

124. ekogan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2763438)

That umpire has a really wide strikezone. Rios was struck out on ball 1

125. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2763439)

####### TERRIBLE 0-2 pitch, Papelbon.

126. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2763443)

0-2 double!

127. Textbook Editor Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:27 PM (#2763444)

Uh-oh.

128. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:27 PM (#2763447)

Stupid ####### standup fastball.

Fails.

Again.

129. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:27 PM (#2763448)

HOLY #### PEDROIA JUST SAVED THE GAME

130. konaforever Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:27 PM (#2763451)

PEDROIA!

131. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2763452)

In my mind I know it doesn't work that way, but hearing that wells is 0-10 makes part of me think "he's due."

Wow, great play by Pedroia.

132. Textbook Editor Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2763453)

The little man has glove.

133. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2763454)

HOLY ####!

Did Pedroia hurt himself?

134. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2763455)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Kevin just came in his sleep.

135. John DiFool2 Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2763457)

That was an amazing play by Peds.

136. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2763459)

Shorty!!

137. plink Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2763460)

That was impressive.

138. Third True Outcome Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:29 PM (#2763464)

Well, that certainly makes up for his lack of height costing Lester his no-no...

139. Rafael Bellylard (p8p) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:29 PM (#2763466)

I'll call for the Ortiz walk off HR now, just to beat the rush.

140. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:29 PM (#2763467)

Alright, Pedroia, complete it and hit a walk-off in the bottom half.

141. ekogan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:30 PM (#2763472)

If Manny could play defense, Rolen wouldn't have had a double

142. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:32 PM (#2763480)

How many times do you see it? A guy makes a defensive play to save the game in the top of the inning and then pops up in the bottom of the inning.

143. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:32 PM (#2763481)

A pedroia walk off would be the coolest thing ever

144. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:32 PM (#2763482)

Here comes Ortiz's groundout to Hill.

145. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:33 PM (#2763485)

ugh

146. glavine hater Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:33 PM (#2763484)

pulling a starter throwing a one hitter with a low pitch count is RIDICULOUS!!! the soxs deserve to lose this game, and if goes beyond 10 innings, they will.

147. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:33 PM (#2763490)

thanks troll

148. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:33 PM (#2763492)

Okajima is warming? Papelbon hasn't pitched all week and now he's out after 13 pitches?

149. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:34 PM (#2763496)

Why is the Amica pitch zone so infrequent?

That's the first real swing we've seen from Ortiz in weeks. Too bad he was too quick.

150. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:35 PM (#2763502)

Now, a Manny walk-off is something that I could imagine.

151. Rafael Bellylard (p8p) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:35 PM (#2763503)

Who's gonna be the PR for Ortiz?

152. Darren Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:35 PM (#2763504)

Buchholz for PR.

153. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:35 PM (#2763505)

Can't really pinchrun here, can they, with Ellsbury hurting and Moss already in the game.

154. Third True Outcome Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:36 PM (#2763506)

Why is Ortiz on base??

155. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:36 PM (#2763508)

Now do you pinchrun?

156. Tike Redman's Shattered Dreams (shayborg) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:36 PM (#2763509)

Is it just me, or have the NESN broadcasts the last few days on MLB.TV been really out-of-focus?

157. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:36 PM (#2763510)

Lowrie could run.

158. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:37 PM (#2763513)

I would tihnk you run for Ortiz with him on 2nd.

159. Third True Outcome Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2763520)

Yeah! Not wasting a pitching gem!

160. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2763521)

A run! A run!!!!

161. ekogan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2763523)

Why is Holladay still in the game?

162. konaforever Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2763524)

Finally, A WIN!

163. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2763527)

I really like Youkilis hitting 5th.

164. John DiFool2 Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2763528)

YOOOOOOOOOKS!

165. glavine hater Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2763529)

hey, are you guys forgetting this is a tied game. ooops ,not anymore. good for terry. i knew pulling lester was the right move

166. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2763530)

YOUKS!!!!!!!!

Thanks for saving Ortiz's knee with the bobble, Wells.

Three-straight complete game losses for Halladay. That has to be a modern record.

167. Darren Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2763531)

Woohoo! A win, a win!

168. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2763532)

awesome!

169. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2763533)

Wow. To bad for Halladay again, this team gives him zero run support. And Wells, ah boys.

170. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2763534)

Halladay now has 3 CG losses in a row.

171. konaforever Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2763535)

It's nice to be on the winning side of one of these.

172. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2763536)

I read Halladay's lips there! He said something not nice!

173. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:40 PM (#2763538)

Damnit, now I give the Coke back to Chip.

174. Textbook Editor Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:40 PM (#2763539)

Halliday is the Bert Blyleven of the 21st century.

175. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:40 PM (#2763540)

You didn't need to be a trained lip reader on the replay to know that Halladay just said "Motherf*cking son of a b*tch!" while backing up home plate after the hit, when he saw Wells wasn't going to have a play.

176. ekogan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:40 PM (#2763541)

Gibbons left Holladay in too long. He has a great closer, he should've used him

177. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:41 PM (#2763543)

why is it a complete game if he didn't get 27 outs?

178. tfbg9 Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:41 PM (#2763545)

Yay. 'Bout f*cking time.

179. Tike Redman's Shattered Dreams (shayborg) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:43 PM (#2763550)

why is it a complete game if he didn't get 27 outs?

He recorded all the outs his team got in the game. It's the same way a pitcher can have an 8 inning CG on the road.

180. Chip Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:44 PM (#2763551)

why is it a complete game if he didn't get 27 outs?

There were no other outs to get.

You can have an 24-out complete game, too, if you're on the mound for the road team and trailing, and your squad doesn't score in the top of the 9th.

181. Daryn Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:46 PM (#2763566)

You can have a 12 out complete game.

182. Third True Outcome Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:48 PM (#2763570)

Don't they have to complete the fifth inning for it to be a game, complete or otherwise?

183. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:48 PM (#2763572)

Isn't that Halladays fourth straight complete game? That hit by Youk was a good one, the pitch was really in on him.

184. Carl Yastrzemski, A Well-Paid Slav (GGC) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:49 PM (#2763575)

That happened the other nite, if I'm not mistaken. Too bad Steve Avery isn't around. He could've run for Ortiz without the Sox using up a position player.

185. Carl Yastrzemski, A Well-Paid Slav (GGC) Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:54 PM (#2763589)

Daryn is correct

186. Dan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:55 PM (#2763592)

Three-straight complete game losses for Halladay. That has to be a modern record.

Appparently Johnson had a 3-game stretch in 1999, and Schilling had a 4 game streak of CG losses in 1998. Go figure.

187. tfbg9 Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:57 PM (#2763599)

HOLY ####!

Did Pedroia hurt himself?

According to NESN, yes he did, at least a little. We'll have to wait and see.

188. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: April 29, 2008 at 09:58 PM (#2763602)

i was being a smart ass - sorry guys

189. Mike Hampton's #1 Fan Posted: April 29, 2008 at 10:04 PM (#2763631)

Okay, so what's the pool on when Halladay goes on the DL this year?

190. Fly's New Handle Was Too Long, But Clever Posted: April 29, 2008 at 10:11 PM (#2763650)

He only threw 112 pitches...there's nothing unreasonable about that.

191. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: April 29, 2008 at 10:26 PM (#2763700)

Halladay's pitch counts are always low. As well, he pitches for contact which helps.

192. Benji Gil Gamesh Posted: April 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM (#2763733)

Halladay just said "Motherf*cking son of a b*tch!" while backing up home plate after the hit, when he saw Wells wasn't going to have a play.

I actually think he said "You've got to be f*cking sh!tting me!"

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