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Sunday, March 12, 2006

WBC Chatter: Pool 1 - Japan at United States - 4:00 PM EST (ESPN2)

JPN: K. Uehara
USA: J. Peavy

Both teams suffered “upsets” in pool play, how will they recover in the next round?

Sean McNally Posted: March 12, 2006 at 03:08 PM | 600 comment(s)
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1. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#1894744)

Martinez is a idiot. He doesn't have Damon in the lineup (No doubt because Darth Steinbrenner is making threatening calls), and he has Schneider catching. Least he has both Chipper and A-Rod in the lineup.

My TV says that Tennis is going to be on at 4:00 on ESPN 2, but various other sources are saying otherwise.

2. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 04:38 PM (#1894762)

Capitalism rules!

3. Devin McCullen has no value to Eastern Europe Posted: March 12, 2006 at 04:38 PM (#1894764)

My guess is they weren't planning to televise this game because they were expecting the U.S. to win their group. So the change came too late for the TV listings.

4. Sean McNally Posted: March 12, 2006 at 04:45 PM (#1894775)

I am fully expecting my Comcast Digital cable to be stunningly wrong and the game to be on at 4:00.

5. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 04:46 PM (#1894777)

If the U.S. wins today, they are pretty much into the semis, right?

6. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 04:55 PM (#1894800)

Pretty much. The U.S. has a really easy route into the finals. All they have to do is beat 2 or 3 of Japan, Mexico, and Korea and then beat the other winner from that pool. Meanwhile the other pool has Venezuala, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, and Cuba.

7. Moe Greene Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:02 PM (#1894816)

I'm watching mlb.tv now. They're showing the end of the Sam Houston State / Northwestern State conference championship game.

MLB.TV => NCAA.Basketball.TV!

8. Sean McNally Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:02 PM (#1894817)

Pretty much. The U.S. has a really easy route into the finals. All they have to do is beat 2 or 3 of Japan, Mexico, and Korea and then beat the other winner from that pool. Meanwhile the other pool has Venezuala, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, and Cuba.

That's purely by accident, right?

9. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:03 PM (#1894821)

Wait, the two teams that win from the SAME pool play each other?!? Isn't that beyond stupidly idiotically repetitively redundant?

That being said, any of these teams can get lucky and beat any of the other teams in a single game.

10. Sean McNally Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:05 PM (#1894824)

No Eraser, because they all play one another at least once ...

11. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:06 PM (#1894826)

USA! USA! USA!

O, wait, the game hasn't even started.

O well.

But anyway.....

USA! USA! USA!

12. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:07 PM (#1894830)

It's SUTCLIFFE!

13. Sean McNally Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:07 PM (#1894832)

This is the "Much Heralded" matchup? Wha?

14. Sean McNally Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:10 PM (#1894839)

Ichiro can homer whenever he wants!

15. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:10 PM (#1894840)

"Threat of Rain"??!?!?!

What happens if it rains?

Crap, then Ichiro hits a Homer...

Crud. Crud. Crud.

16. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#1894841)

Wow, that was fast. I didn't even see it.

17. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#1894843)

ESPN announcers are talking about Peavy's defense. They talk about the Gold Glovers behind him and they mention Ken Griffey. Maybe the third worst defender in center field.

18. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#1894844)

Wow, Peavy looks awesome today.

19. Moe Greene Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#1894845)

Ichiro is a traitor!

20. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#1894846)

O... crud.

C'mon Peavy....

21. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:12 PM (#1894848)

What happens if it rains?

Rain of fire. Rain of fire.

22. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:12 PM (#1894849)

Yeah! Double Play!

23. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:12 PM (#1894850)

Gold Glove for Derek Jeter! Gold Glove!

24. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#1894851)

Cuba beat Venezuela 7-2 earlier. Last out to Ichiro's homer: about a minute.

25. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#1894853)

A much needed double play turned.

26. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#1894854)

Gold Glove for Derek Jeter! Gold Glove!

Damn straight. Gold-plated diapers, too.

27. Moe Greene Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:14 PM (#1894855)

Anyone have any insight as to why Matsunaka doesn't come to MLB? Seems he could make some good coin here.

28. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:14 PM (#1894859)

Can someone please explain why A-Rod is DH, but Ken Griffey Jr. is playing defence?

29. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#1894861)

Can someone please explain why A-Rod is DH, but Ken Griffey Jr. is playing defence?

Because Buck Martinez is a ####### tard.

30. DKDC Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#1894863)

The fans waving the American flag disgusts me. Either they are Bush flacks or they are morons who live in freedom but still like the USA. Maybe they're both.

31. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#1894862)

Can someone explain why Ichiro doesn't hit 90 Home Runs a year? I mean, dude, he seems to be able to hit a Homer whenever he feels like it.

32. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:16 PM (#1894864)

22 walks in 187 innings? Not too f'in bad.

33. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:18 PM (#1894867)

Woah. I thought JAPAN plays Small Ball!

34. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:18 PM (#1894869)

Infield single? Throwing error?

35. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:19 PM (#1894873)

Bad new for Yankees fans. Jeter just bunted with a runner on first nobody out. Looks like Jeter will set a record for sacrifices this year. Yet another reason to bat him leadoff.

36. Moe Greene Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:19 PM (#1894874)

Can someone explain why Ichiro doesn't hit 90 Home Runs a year? I mean, dude, he seems to be able to hit a Homer whenever he feels like it.

Ty Cobb could've hit homers if he wanted to.

37. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:20 PM (#1894875)

#30 right on. I mean all those librarians are in prison in the US.

38. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:21 PM (#1894878)

Can someone explain why Ichiro doesn't hit 90 Home Runs a year? I mean, dude, he seems to be able to hit a Homer whenever he feels like it.

Ty Cobb could've hit homers if he wanted to.

I remember reading a story once that during a visit by the Yankees to Tiger Stadium, Ty Cobb told the media that he would outhomer Ruth during the series.

Cobb choked up a bit, and hit 4 HRs, including 3 in a game. Ruth hit 1.

39. Tanto Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:22 PM (#1894883)

A-Rod is so unclutch.

40. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:23 PM (#1894884)

A-Rod with another clutch double play.

41. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:23 PM (#1894885)

A-Rod GIDP. Sound familiar, Yankee fans?

42. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:23 PM (#1894886)

No Eraser, because they all play one another at least once ...

I meant in the semi-final, sorry I was pretty ambiguous in my post.

#30 right on. I mean all those librarians are in prison in the US.

While I appreciate the sentiment of this post, wasn't this one of the provisions of the Patriot Act?

43. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:24 PM (#1894887)

A-Rod once again kills a rally started by Jeter.

44. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:25 PM (#1894891)

#42 no it wasn't. The Patriot Acts may have problems (I'm Republican-Libertarian) but it isn't comparable to what Castro did to the librarians.

45. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:26 PM (#1894893)

While I appreciate the sentiment of this post, wasn't this one of the provisions of the Patriot Act?

It all relates to the societal constructs of "librarian" and how our innate judgements compel us to subconciously put them into prison.

46. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:27 PM (#1894895)

I gather it's cold in So.Cal. That's cold as in 50 degrees, not cold as in snowing, right?

47. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:27 PM (#1894896)

Peavy looks like crap. Glad we have longmen like Al Leiter in the pen to represent the best of American pitching.

48. Robert S. Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#1894899)

Can someone explain why Ichiro doesn't hit 90 Home Runs a year? I mean, dude, he seems to be able to hit a Homer whenever he feels like it.

He hates the postseason?

49. Robert S. Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#1894900)

Past a diving Jeter.

I AM SHOCKED.

50. Baldrick Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#1894901)

Past a diving Jeter!

51. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#1894902)

I don't think that anybody was arguing that Cuba is a paragon of freedom. But it doesn't pretend to be, either.

Gold Glove for Derek Jeter!

52. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:29 PM (#1894904)

Triple play time...

please...

53. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:29 PM (#1894906)

PAST A DIVING JETER!

54. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:29 PM (#1894907)

"past a diving Jeter"

55. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:29 PM (#1894908)

Past a diving Jeter!

56. LTV100 Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:29 PM (#1894909)

Wait, the two teams that win from the SAME pool play each other?!? Isn't that beyond stupidly idiotically repetitively redundant?

Yep. Granted, I think this setup was used to type to maximize attendance and enthusiasm at specific games -- Asian/NorthAmerican countries on the West Coast and Carribean/South American countries in Puerto Rico -- but facing the same team from the first round pool is just silly. Plus, there is no real advantage to winning your pool (well, you get two "home" games to one "away", but I think that isn't that great).

How about the four #1 seeds simply play the four #2 seeds and the top four teams simply advance? At the very least, it should have been pools like the #1 teams form Pool A and B plus the #2 teams from Pool C and D.

57. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:30 PM (#1894912)

Wow BTF really is an echo chamber of nicknames.

58. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:31 PM (#1894915)

Why would you bunt with nobody out, against a pitcher who hasn't shown much of anything, with your number 7 hitter, in the 2nd inning?

59. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:31 PM (#1894917)

#42 no it wasn't. The Patriot Acts may have problems (I'm Republican-Libertarian) but it isn't comparable to what Castro did to the librarians.

Ok, maybe I'm wrong. I wasn't implying that we were rounding individual citizens who tried to keep books in their own homes to resist the removal of certain book from state libraries. Obviously that's a terrible abuse of human rights.

I was referring to the governments threat to lock up librarians if they refused to turn over records of what their patrons were checking out. Not as atrocious, but still a pretty deep attack on civil liberties.

60. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:32 PM (#1894918)

#56 What's worse is that #1 and #2 from each second-round pool play in the same semi-final. So, even if the top eight teams are in one half of the draw, the #9 team ends up in the final. Stupid - it's not like there was a proper qualifier to generate seedings in the first place.

61. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:32 PM (#1894919)

That's cold as in 50 degrees, not cold as in snowing, right?

There were reports of snow in SoCal this morning, but I'm sure it's warmed up a little by now.

On the other hand, it's certainly snowing where I am. Which is not particularly close to Anahiem.

62. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:32 PM (#1894920)

How was that 1-2 pitch not a strike.

63. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:32 PM (#1894921)

I was referring to the governments threat to lock up librarians if they refused to turn over records of what their patrons were checking out. Not as atrocious, but still a pretty deep attack on civil liberties.

How is that an attack on civil liberties? To be an attack on civil liberties, wouldn't they need to lock up people based upon what books they checked out?

64. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:33 PM (#1894923)

If we lose this game, Japan will never let us hear the end of it.

65. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:33 PM (#1894924)

Urgh, real bad decision making--none out two on-->two on two outs.

Isn't Ogasawara one of the top hitters as well?

66. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:33 PM (#1894925)

On the other hand, it's certainly snowing where I am. Which is not particularly close to Anahiem.

It's snowing here in England too. Not especially close to Anaheim either.

67. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:34 PM (#1894927)

Oops, moot point.

68. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:34 PM (#1894929)

That one was for Hiroshima! 3-0!

It's really cold here in SoCal. It was snowing around Palmdale the last two days.

69. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:35 PM (#1894931)

Ichiro's "outstanding" season last yeat: 303/350/436 with diminshed defense.

Out-standing.

70. JH (in DC) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:36 PM (#1894933)

Smartball?

71. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:37 PM (#1894934)

I remember when I was in college and it snowed on my birthday. It was the first time in something like 15 years that it had snowed in Claremont, and it happened in April. It was almost 80 degrees the next day.

72. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:37 PM (#1894936)

Peavy looks terrible. Every out is a loud out, and he's getting chopped up. Not that I'm complaining - I'm supporting anyone against the USA - but you might wanna think about getting someone up in the pen.

73. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#1894937)

How is that an attack on civil liberties? To be an attack on civil liberties, wouldn't they need to lock up people based upon what books they checked out?

No, that would be a different attack on civil liberties. There's not only one way. Locking up librarians because they won't help the government monitor citizens' reading habits would be another way.

74. Robert S. Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#1894938)

Chipper's good.

75. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#1894939)

CHIPPER!

76. Moe Greene Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#1894940)

I think the radar gun is stuck on 97.

77. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#1894944)

Chipper!

78. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#1894945)

You know what? You can build a million bridges, hit a million home runs, but when you name your kid "Shea" after Shea stadium, you're not a bridge builder or a slugger, you're a homosexual.

79. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:40 PM (#1894947)

And yes, I'm aware that uses an outdated notion of "homosexual" as a pejorative insult, but I spent too many of my high school years calling Chipper "gay" to let it go.

80. Robert S. Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#1894949)

Hee Seop Choi is outstanding?

81. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#1894950)

What's the park factor of Angel Stadium?

82. Tanto Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#1894951)

Hee Seop Choi an "outstanding first baseman?"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

83. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:42 PM (#1894954)

I hate Larry.

84. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:42 PM (#1894955)

You can build a million bridges, hit a million home runs, but when you name your kid "Shea" after Shea stadium, you're not a bridge builder or a slugger, you're a homosexual.

Wow. Just, wow.

85. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:42 PM (#1894957)

Is Derrek Lee the tallest batting champion in history?

86. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:43 PM (#1894958)

Do you know what any words mean?

87. If theres a bunt w'all remember twas back in ol 92 Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:43 PM (#1894960)

Does "Half-Cocked Jack" mean what I think it means?

88. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:44 PM (#1894961)

What's wrong with the name Shea? If he had named his kid, "IkickedtheshitoutoftheMets Jones Jr." that would have been uncalled for, but "Shea" is just fine.

89. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:44 PM (#1894962)

That was neat.

90. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:44 PM (#1894963)

Damn, nice play.

91. Richard Gadsden Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:44 PM (#1894964)

Does "Half-Cocked Jack" mean what I think it means?

I don't know what you think it means, but I was guessing that it was someone related to John Wayne Bobbitt.

92. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:46 PM (#1894967)

A hit for Vernon!

93. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:46 PM (#1894968)

Is Kaz Matsui the only Japanese player that can't play defense?

94. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder. Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:48 PM (#1894972)

Thanks for stopping by the lounge and letting me know the game was on the Duece.

95. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:48 PM (#1894974)

Does "Half-Cocked Jack" mean what I think it means?

Yes.

And Lee was the tallest batting champ I could find, but I only went back a couple of decades. Next tallest was Willie Wilson, who batted .332 in 1982. He was six-three, two inches shorter than Lee.

96. RMc is the President of the United States Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:48 PM (#1894976)

*Librarians are not getting locked up in the US. Chill.
*Librarians, and lots and lots of other people, get locked up all the time in Cuba.
*#30 was kidding. I think.
*Why the hell isn't this game on (English-language) TV? Yes, I know there's college basketball they have to cover, but doesn't ESPN have about twenty channels they can put this game on?
*Never thought I'd be rooting for Jeter...

97. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:48 PM (#1894978)

Uehara's stuff isn't so great, is it?

98. The Milton Bradley Effect (Voxter) Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:49 PM (#1894979)

Okay, Dave Parker was 6 feet five, also. He won a couple in the early 80s.

99. zoperino,if youre not into the whole brevity thing Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:51 PM (#1894983)

Jesus, I never realized how good Parker was in his prime. He destroyed himself with the cocaine, right?

100. Gamingboy Posted: March 12, 2006 at 05:51 PM (#1894984)

#96, it's on ESPN2

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