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Tuesday, August 22, 2006

More Injuries and Another Rookie

When the Cubs dealt Greg Maddux at the trading deadline and soon thereafter shelved Mark Prior, they found themselves relying on a rotation of four rookies—Rich Hill, Carlos Marmol, Juan Mateo, and Angel Guzman, each of them likely this season to exceed the number of innings they had ever thrown as a professional.

Unfortunately, we learned that Marmol has developed pain in his biceps, requring the Cubs to place him on the disabled list Monday, most likely solidifying and extending Ryan O’Malley’s cup of coffee in the big leagues.  (Ed.  Perhaps not as long as anticipated, as O’Malley exited Tuesday night’s game with a strained elbow.  Presumably, this will lead either to the recall of either Wade Miller, who is nearly ready from his rehab, or Jae Kuk “The Osprey Killer” Ryu, who was hammered badly by the Braves in his only earlier MLB start.)

Today, we have more injuries.  Cesar Izturis, whose injury problems with the Dodgers last year began with a strained right hamstring . . . is returning to the DL with a strained right hamstring.  In his place, the Cubs have selected Buck Coats from their AAA team, adding him to the 40-man roster.  (After the weekend’s glorious trade of Neifi Perez, they had a roster spot free.) The Cubs aren’t expecting a lengthy absence for Izturis, but then again, the Dodgers weren’t expecting a lengthy absence in June 2005 either.  In the meantime, Ronny Cedeno is moving back to shortstop, depriving him of additional innings of development as a new second baseman.

There are several forms of silver lining in all this.  First, it gives the Cubs a much better look at Ryan Theriot, who has been impressive in his stint with the team and may possibly earn a shot as a reserve (or better) next year, though Freddie Bynum will also get a look at second base as well.  It also gives the Cubs a look at both sides of the Izturis coin—the flashy gloveman at shortstop as well as the injury risk as well.  Let’s hope that Jim Hendry recognizes this in the offseason and into 2007.

As for Coats, the lefty hitting 24 year old was rated by Baseball America as the Cubs #25 prospect in the preseason (just after Ryan Theriot), but seems to be cut more from the “Ryan O’Malley” mold than the “Felix Pie” one.  He hit .277/.336/.366 in Iowa this season, good for an MLE of .237/.283/.303, numbers comparable to Ronny Cedeno.  The comparison is appropriate in another meaningful way—although Coats spent the majority of his time in RF this season (61 games) with another 22 games in CF, he’s a converted shortstop who this year has also played 17 games at second base, 10 games at shortstop, and 4 games at third base.  In that sense, he’s similar to Freddie Bynum, another utility player who has spent most of his time in the outfield.

So even after trading Jerry Hairston, Jr., Todd Walker, and Neifi Perez, the team has Ronny Cedeno, Freddie Bynum, and Ryan Theriot—all second base candidates for next season, plus Mike Fontenot down in Iowa (and off the 40 man roster).  Meanwhile, presuming John Mabry won’t return, the corner outfield candidates are Jacque Jones, Matt Murton, Angel Pagan, Bynum, and Coats.

How offensive!

Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: August 22, 2006 at 08:04 PM | 12 comment(s)
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   1. Neil M Posted: August 22, 2006 at 09:22 PM (#2152953)
O'Malley's cup of coffee may already be empty. He left tonight's game in the 5th with what appeared to be a left elbow problem.
   2. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: August 22, 2006 at 09:39 PM (#2153012)
So this leaves us with Ryu, Williams, or a roster move to get Miller off the 60 Day DL.(Wood or Prior to the 60 day?)
   3. Clute Posted: August 23, 2006 at 09:52 AM (#2153714)
Well boys, how about this player development system our Cubbies have? Impressive hey? Beg, Borrow and Steal to get Billy Beane, otherwise all we can expect is to get lucky every 10 or 20 years and come close to being a contender.
   4. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: August 23, 2006 at 10:12 AM (#2153730)
If Billy Beane wouldn't go to Boston, with all the money they were willing to pay him and with a saber-friendly ownership, what makes you possibly think he'll come to Chicago . . . or that the Tribfolk would ask him?
   5. Duffy Duff Posted: August 23, 2006 at 10:25 AM (#2153756)
So even after trading Jerry Hairston, Jr., Todd Walker, and Neifi Perez, the team has Ronny Cedeno, Freddie Bynum, and Ryan Theriot—all second base candidates for next season, plus Mike Fontenot down in Iowa

Is it too hard to ask that at least one of the "candidates" should be above replacement level.

Meanwhile, presuming John Mabry won’t return, the corner outfield candidates are Jacque Jones, Matt Murton, Angel Pagan, Bynum, and Coats.

Jones and Murton as starters are essentially average players. They won't hurt you, but they won't help push you towards a pennant, either. Same with Pierre. The Cubs' OF backups *will* hurt them
   6. Clute Posted: August 23, 2006 at 10:45 AM (#2153770)
I did say beg borrow or STEAL didn't I? You know what I mean though. We need a change in management towards that line of evaluating talent, otherwise it'll be more of the same. Actually I can't believe Billy Beane wouldn't like to go to a large market club if the money was right and he had a chance to turn around one of the worst organizations in baseball.
   7. Clute Posted: August 23, 2006 at 11:04 AM (#2153797)
Obviously the present plan is not working so which change is more likely if at all. Blow it all up? Well without a quality GM to shephard the trades, it might be a worse scenario than now. Spend like the Yankees? Hendry at least seems able to recognize the obvious superstars but when the Tribune is crying about fullfilling their obligation to building the parking garage because of cost overruns, do you think they would? Let's face it, the only option is to hire a GM that knows how to evaluate talent and build an organization for the long term without overpaying for every free agent. There has to be more than one Billy Beane type out there.
   8. Mike Emeigh Posted: August 23, 2006 at 12:38 PM (#2153889)
Obviously the present plan is not working


Of course it's working. The Cubs are still making money.

-- MWE
   9. MM1f Posted: August 23, 2006 at 12:59 PM (#2153917)
Coats was the SS on Stephen Drews HS rival at the same time Drew was in HS
   10. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 23, 2006 at 01:03 PM (#2153923)
Of course it's working. The Cubs are still making money.

I've found some comment on this site that the TV ratings have been plummeting.
   11. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: August 23, 2006 at 05:33 PM (#2154231)
The Score is reporting that the Cubs have DLed O'Malley and recalled Jae Kuk Ryu.
   12. Sweet Posted: August 23, 2006 at 06:52 PM (#2154274)
Jones and Murton as starters are essentially average players. They won't hurt you, but they won't help push you towards a pennant, either. Same with Pierre. The Cubs' OF backups *will* hurt them

Carlos Lee recently signed on with Scott Boras. I think this roughly doubles the likelihood that he ends up with the Cubs, which I'd put at something like 40% or so. Same goes for Zito.

Lee puts up gaudy counting stats, but he's not the answer. .285/.339/.493 lifetime line isn't what you want to see from your aging corner outfielder, especially not at +$10 million/year.
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