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Thursday, May 29, 2008

The Cream Rises to the Top?

Doc Nabbit observes:

I just checked the Cubs standings after tonight’s when and noticed something.  With a record of 32-21, they’ve completed 53 games.

53 games. . .. 53 games. . 53 games.  .That sounds familiar - and not just because I typed it up 4 types. 

- Oh, I know!  That’s how many games they played last year at their nadir.  That was around the time Piniella got in an ump’s face with as much passion as an individual can possibly muster (yet also as little eroticism).  They went 63-46 the rest of the regular season.  With this year’s start, they are now 95-67 in their last 162 regular season games. 

When was the last time they played that well?  From Sept 1, 2003 to 9/7/04 they were 93-69.  Close, but no cigar.  They had the same record from 8/22/03 to 8/26/04.  Also 7/26/03 to 7/30/04.  Not then I guess. 

They won 88 games in 2000, but ended terribly in 2000, and also ended badly in 2001, making any 2001-2 combos tricky. 

They came close again in 1998-9, but couldn’t keep their early season groove going long enough in ‘99. 

They won 93 in 1989, so there should be some sort of 1988-9 or 1989-90 combo that gets us to 95-67.  Actually, no.  They began and ended ‘89 fairly hot, so losing games on either side doesn’t get them 2 extra wins, especially given that neither surrounding season was all that good. 

Well, from 6/8/84 to 6/11/85, they were 101-61.  That’s what were looking at then.  The Cubs have just completed their best 162 game stretch of regular season baseball in 23 years. That’s nice to know.  Well, provided one conveniently forgets what happened to that 1985 squad . .  .

Oh, yeah, that 95-67 record in the last 162 games?  That’s the best record of any team in the NL in that time.  In the AL, only the Yankees - that’s right, the last place Yankees - can top it.  They were fearsomely good down the stretch run last year.

Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: May 29, 2008 at 09:13 AM | 33 comment(s)
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   1. Cabbage Posted: May 29, 2008 at 10:26 AM (#2798241)
They're a handsome bunch too.
   2. Stevens Posted: May 29, 2008 at 10:42 AM (#2798250)
And gentlemen, all.
   3. Don't question Moses Taylor's Buymorian patriotism Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:00 AM (#2798264)
Good to know.
   4. kevin Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM (#2798265)
Moses, the cream does rise.

did you see the game last night?
   5. Filliam H Muffman (Charles S) Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:12 AM (#2798274)
The ninth inning last night was a thing of beauty. They made Saito throw almost 40 pitches to 6 batters. That was a well-earned win. I see no reason why this team can't win 55 at home and 40 on the road. June and July are loaded with road games. We'll know more soon.
   6. Mayonnaise Savant (DTM) Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM (#2798285)
The ninth inning last night was a thing of beauty. They made Saito throw almost 40 pitches to 6 batters.


Can you ever remember an inning in which the Cubs repeatedly got ahead in the count without half of the pitches being a foot outside the strike zone? The patience this team shows is a stark contrast to so many other teams, and they're being rewarded for it with more runs.
   7. Mayonnaise Savant (DTM) Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:23 AM (#2798286)
I should also note that the Cubs are tied for the best record in baseball with......the Rays.

Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute must be loving this season.
   8. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM (#2798288)
June and July are loaded with road games, but as my Brewer fan friend The Chairman pointed out yesterday, the Cubs go on only one three city roadtrip in that span. They are on the road a lot, but there its nicely broken up with off days and short homestands.
   9. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM (#2798294)
By the way, has anyone noticed what a brutal month of September the Cubs have? 6 games with St. Louis. 6 with Milwaukee and 3 with the Mets. They close on the road with the Mets and Milwaukee, not to mention there isn't an off day from the 16th to the 28th.
   10. Dag Nabbit Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM (#2798321)
The Cream Rises to the Top?

Then again, so does the hot air. Stay tuned to find out which it is.
   11. Andere HUSSEIN Richtingen, Socialist Posted: May 29, 2008 at 12:16 PM (#2798342)
This is also the Cubs' best start to the season since 2001, when they went 33-20 in their first 53 games. It's worth noting that that 53rd game was their last win a 12 game winning streak. They had a .600 record as late as July 7th that season.
   12. retro-shiite Posted: May 29, 2008 at 12:19 PM (#2798344)
What Charles S and DTM said about last night's 9th inning. And I'll add the almost playoff-like atmosphere (aided by the temperature being at October levels)--it all made for some serious fun.
   13. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: May 29, 2008 at 12:36 PM (#2798369)
They're a handsome bunch too.


What about TOFU?

And Jack, I'm not really seeing 6 with St. Louis, 6 with Milwaukee, and 3 with the Mets as brutal?
   14. retro-shiite Posted: May 29, 2008 at 12:42 PM (#2798380)
Actually, it's 4 with the Mets (2 at Wrigley, 4 at Shea--yet more scheduling brilliance from the people who brought you "THIS TIME IT COUNTS!!!"), but I agree that doesn't look all that daunting. I'm more concerned about the team getting more consistently good on the road in the hot months.
   15. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: May 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM (#2798393)
Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute must be loving this season.

Absolutely. The playoffs start this weekend, right?
   16. Stevens Posted: May 29, 2008 at 01:23 PM (#2798445)
What about TOFU?

Aren't the ground rules that no Cubs compliments can include TOFU?
   17. retro-shiite Posted: May 29, 2008 at 01:46 PM (#2798484)
I stand by my prediction that the Cub will be TOFU-free within the next week. Piniella's made pretty clear he doesn't have any use for him. He started Reed Johnson against Lowe last night. Edmonds, signed to "add a lefty bat," is behind Fontenot and Hoffpauir on the pinch hitting pecking order. He hasn't been used as a late-inning defensive replacement, even for a LF and CF who are, uh, challenged out there.

And, well, given what he brings to the table, not using him makes perfect sense. It's only a matter of when Hendry notices he's got a roster spot that's never getting used.
   18. Eric J Posted: May 29, 2008 at 02:10 PM (#2798523)
Maybe he'll get the hint if Lou uses Marquis or Zambrano to pinch hit ahead of Edmonds.

If that actually happens, it may be one of my favorite inconsequential baseball events ever.
   19. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: May 29, 2008 at 02:19 PM (#2798541)
Thankfully Edmond's isn't a middle infielder, so there's some chance the Cubs will get rid of him.

And yes, I misspelled his name. I don't care.
   20. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 29, 2008 at 02:26 PM (#2798556)
The Cubs seem to play St. Louis on the road well (haven't looked at the numbers).
   21. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 29, 2008 at 02:27 PM (#2798559)
If that actually happens, it may be one of my favorite inconsequential baseball events ever.

This would make my summer.
   22. Cabbage Posted: May 29, 2008 at 02:33 PM (#2798569)
And Jack, I'm not really seeing 6 with St. Louis, 6 with Milwaukee, and 3 with the Mets as brutal?

We'll know a lot more by August. Stl might cool off, the Mets might start to look fearsome, and who knows what Milwaukee will do.
   23. Don't question Moses Taylor's Buymorian patriotism Posted: May 29, 2008 at 02:49 PM (#2798597)
I refuse to allow a Cubs blog post turn into an NBA thread.

I need to take a couple of minutes and throw a post together about the Cubs home/road splits.

I agree about TOFU being gone, soon too.
   24. Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute Posted: May 29, 2008 at 03:05 PM (#2798617)
I'm happy that I don't even know who TOFU is, though I can guess.

They really should have gotten rid of Wayne Messmer a long time ago.
   25. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 29, 2008 at 03:18 PM (#2798633)
What's wrong with Messmer? He seems inocuous enough.
   26. Cabbage Posted: May 29, 2008 at 03:45 PM (#2798674)
I once played on a coed softball team sponsored by Wayne Messmer.
   27. Walt Davis Posted: May 29, 2008 at 04:09 PM (#2798728)
I once played on a coed softball team sponsored by Wayne Messmer.

is that even legal?

(hey, it's my first time I think)
   28. retro-shiite Posted: May 29, 2008 at 04:42 PM (#2798782)
Messmer's a good singer, but a terrible PA announcer. He constantly neglects to announce substitutions, which if you're trying to keep score is really annoying. Paul Friedman, who handles PA most night games, is much better.
   29. Stevens Posted: May 29, 2008 at 04:54 PM (#2798799)
Wow. Messmer hate? I'd never have guessed.

Classic Anthem, that guy. "BRAave!"
   30. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 29, 2008 at 05:27 PM (#2798830)
I've noticed Messmer's negligence in announcing substitutions. I can usually figure it out, but shouldn't have to. They suck at it in Milwaukee too. The Red Sox guy is awesome. You are fully informed there. He's on top of his ####.
   31. SouthSideRyan(CASEY'S GONE!!) Posted: May 29, 2008 at 05:55 PM (#2798854)
I have to remind myself every couple of weeks that Messmer doesn't look like Howard Finkel.
   32. John DiFool2 Posted: May 29, 2008 at 08:17 PM (#2798965)
[Reposted, due to brain fart]

That 1985 team was a definite heartbreaker-not the way that '84 was of course. Their Pyth was only 2 games behind their record (35-19). The pitching staff was lights out, but the offense kind of sucked, but they were hanging with both the Cards and the Mets.

Then of course came that awful 13 game losing streak. The offense was shut out FIVE times. It was after this season of course that I read in the next Abstract about the Devil's Theory of Park Effects, and it all made sense. They were playing guys with OPS+ below 100 at C, 3rd, SS, and CF, tho this was the year that Davey Lopes stole 44 bases at age 40. Then the injuries started hitting the pitching staff, hard, and all 4 guys whom they had signed after '84 finished the season on the DL (or spent a lot of time on it), and the ones who replaced them all had ERA+'es below 92 (including the uncle, distant cousin, or father's former roommate of current Cub Mike Fontenot?).
   33. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: May 29, 2008 at 08:30 PM (#2799004)
The Cubs' PA announcer is a recognizable figure? I had no idea. All I know is I could not understand a single thing he was saying at Monday's game. Nothing but inaudible blather, much quieter than the crowd and other background noise.

It would have helped too, since the game featured two pinch hitters who weren't even listed on the rosters in the scorecard. Terry Tiffee is on the Dodgers now?!? Who knew!
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