The value of a good platoon
Back in March, Dusty Baker put on the anti-rational hat he wears whenever he has eaten breakfast within the past decade and declared that he wasn’t going to platoon Jacque Jones. I can’t find his exact words, but it boiled down to the fact that he wanted to give Jones an opportunity to show what he could do against LHP in a new league with a new team, that Dusty himself would be working with Jacque to make adjustments, blah, blah, blah.
In response, even the littlest lass playing rounders in Oxfordshire winced at these vocalizations from our manager. Jones’s struggles against LHP were about as secret as a CIA agent’s cover in Dick Cheney’s office. From 2003-2005 Jones hit .238/.295/.363 against lefties - and that was in close to 500 plate appearances. The evidence of his incompence against southpaws couldn’t be clearer. However, Dusty obviously pays little attention to such facts and chose to believe the impossible dream. How have things turned out? Even worse than could have been expected. In 100 at bats, Jones has hit .190/.214/.330 against LHP. He has drawn a grand total of two walks while fanning 24 times.
What impact has this Mendoza-lite performance had the offense? I mean, even though the numbers are awful, it’s only 100 ABs, right? To look at this in more detail, I decided to do some guesswork using Baseball Prospectus’s MLVr, or marginal lineup value rate statistic. Basically, MLVr estimates the number of runs per game a player is worth offensively to his team if the rest of the lineup is made up of average hitters. For example, a MLVr of 0.150 would mean that the player adds ~0.150 runs per game. If he played every game, he’d be worth 24.3 runs above an average hitter (162*0.150) over the entire season.
Calculating MLVr is complex, but some basic comparisons should do a reasonable job. Jones is batting .314.351/.551 against RHP. Aramis Ramirez’s overall line is .276/.341/.542 - slightly worse, but pretty similar to Jones’s line against righies. Ramirez’s MLVr is .174. So, with Jones’s slightly better numbers, let’s give him a .180 MLVr against right-handed pitching. Using 4 plate appearances per game as an average, and the fact that Jones has ~300 PAs against RHP, we can calculate the following:
300 PA/4=75 games*0.180=13.5 runs
So, Jones’s bat against RHP has been worth ~13.5 runs over an average bat this off-season. Now, this doesn’t take in to account positional effects (if it did that 13.5 would be lower due to the typical average offense from RF), but since we are comparing apples and apples it doesn’t matter. What about his value against lefties? Well, BPro has Jones’ total MLV at 6.9. 6.9 minus 13.5 = -6.6. So, Jones has been worth ~6.6 runs below average offensively against LHP. With the season almost three quarters over, if we extrapolate to 162 games, Jones would be worth ~ 9 runs below average against southpaws, or about 1 win. However, it isn’t hard to imagine that the Cubs could find a right-handed bat to platoon with Jones who could put up above average numbers in RF playing only against lefties. If he just matched Jones’s output against righties, he’d be worth ~5 runs above average over the course of a full season.
In conclusion, a rough estimation indicates that Baker’s refusal to platoon Jones will cost the Cubs ~1.5 wins this year. Of course, with the Cubs at 48-67, I agree that 1.5 wins is meaningless except in terms of draft order next summer. In addition, it is difficult to know whether Jones would have agreed to a contract with the Cubs (no sarcastic comments from the peanut gallery) if he knew he’d be platooned regularly , so this is conjecture. Regardless, in a truly weak NL Central Division, 1.5 wins could easily mean the difference between a playoff spot and time at the beach in early October. If the Cubs look to compete next year, one of the easiest and most cost-effective ways to improve the club will be to platoon Jacque Jones religiously.
Luke Jasenosky
Posted: August 12, 2006 at 06:35 PM |
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There is the counterissue about whether Jones would be even worse without Baker, but that's kind of a fool's errand.
Well, it would be difficult for Jones to do worse against LHP, and he's doing better than his career rate against RHP.
Even if Jones hit at his career rate against LHP (.608 against LHP) instead of this year's .544, it would have been bad to use him against LHP. Hell, you could credit him .050 for bad luck and it would still be unadvisable.
Pretty much everyone here said that Jones was a fine guy to have, as long as you platoon him. For whatever reason, they didn't do that, and the results are not surprising.
Brad Ausmus is hitting 233/301/295 overall (about 350 PA) which is a little better than Jones's 190/214/330 against lefties, especially in OBP. Ausmus rates at a 210 EQA and a MLVr of -.27. If we take Jones' 100 PA as 25 games and give him Ausmus' probably better -.27 MLVr that's -6.75 runs.
A better comparison might be Rondell White. He's hitting 225/253/305 with an MLVr of -.39 and using that number Jones' 100 PA has already cost us 10 runs.
Luis Terrero is at 200/238/300 and his MLVr is -.44. Ben Broussard (with the Ms) is at 133/188/333 and his MLVr is -.52. Jorge Piedra is at 169/222/356 and he's at -.38. Jared Schumaker is at 179/256/282 and his MLVr is -.4.
So if anything, Luke's esimate of Jones' crappiness this year against lefties appears to be an understatement.
. . . meaning that I probably would've tried to skin the cat slightly differently, but I'd still come out with largely the same result. (In my case, I'd say that the failure to platoon Jones will cost the Cubs 8.6 runs this season (plus the value added by a RH partner) rather than 9 -- no big deal.)
One thing I'd be curious about is his L/R splits on a month-by-month basis. Has Jones been this crappy throughout the season, or did he initially start out ok (when Dusty said he was giving him faith) and then falter?
I recall he started out truly awful, worse than this. I'm sure the numbers were cited in some of the May disaster threads. He probably has "rewarded" Baker's faith by performing around his career norms for the last 2-3 months.
I wonder if you could project what a full season of an Angel Pagan/Matt Murton platoon would look like
As long as Pagan hits 295/333/474 and runs em down in the field, the Pagan platoon probably doesn't cost us anything of note. Of course there's no reason to expect Pagan to keep hitting like that. His career AAA numbers (600+ PA) are 273/334/403. His best SLG in a season with over 100 PA at any level was 405 at AA in 2004. Prior to this season, I'd guess his projection was something like 240/290/350. That's roughly Brian Anderson/Carl Everett 2006 territory which is an MLVr of around -.2 to -.25. Murton has an MLVr of +.042. Murton does have a mild tilt towards vs. LHP, so as a true full-timer, he might be average (MLVr=0).
So my best guess, and this is the defnition of WAG, is that if the split was 120 g for Pagan and 40 for Murton vs. 120 for Murton and 40 for Pagan, it would be a difference of 15-20 runs or 1.5-2 wins. That makes no adjustment for defense.
Just so everyone's clear, I ain't doing nothing special here. Just going to BPro's VORP page (which lists MLVr and PMLVr) and fishing around (I don't subscribe) until I find players with roughly similar BA/OBP/SLG combinations and assuming that's a good enough estimate. Beats doing all that high-falutin' multiplyin', dividin' and subtractin' that Luke and djf are doin'.
Actually, all I did was figure that if Jones's MLVr was roughly .174 against RHP (as Luke analogizes), then it would have to be something close to -.238 against LHP to come out with the actual overall number of .071 (because Jones' has had almost exactly 3 PAs against RHPs as LHPs).
I know the talent levels in the NL are supposedly down but there is no way in Hell a 271/333/395 line in AAA equates to a 268/329/382 line in MLB. Is the park factor there 70?
ZIPS projected him as 250/306/335. That is a little better than my guess (240/290/350), but I'm closer to ZIPS than PECOTA is.
Of course this season might suggest PECOTA was a better projection than ZIPS. :-)
According to Szymborski's Weighted park factors, Norfolk has a .84 park factor. So adjusted for park, Pagan's OPS would be in the 790s. Add in a 10% dropoff for the jump between the IL and the Majors and his equivalent OPS is 711. I think the rule of thumb is 15% per level, but I adjusted it a bit because the International League is a tougher offensive environment than the PCL.
But ZIPS adjusts for all that stuff too. Anyway, I'll let Dan figure this out if he wants to drop by.
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Baker is clueless when it comes to platooning his players anyway.
This isn't true. Baker's run plenty of platoons over the years, in SF and Chicago. It's one of the few strategic things I think he does relatively well. Granted, he sometimes platoons guys maybe he shouldn't (Choi).
The fact that he *shouldn't* have platooned those guys is another issue, but the point is that he does use platoons; he just does them when he shouldn't (Choi, Dubois) and doesn't when he should (Jones).
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