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The current roster (246 total) includes (in alphabetical order for each position):
Pitchers (66): Pete Alexander+, Kevin Brown+, Bert Blyleven+, Mordecai Brown, Ray Brown+, Jim Bunning+, Steve Carlton+, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson+, Stan Coveleski, David Cone, Martín Dihigo+, Don Drysdale+, Dennis Eckersley+, Red Faber+, Bob Feller+, Wes Ferrell, Rollie Fingers, Whitey Ford+, Rube Foster, Willie Foster, Pud Galvin, Bob Gibson+, Rich Gossage+, Clark Griffith, Lefty Grove+*, Carl Hubbell+, Walter Johnson+*, Fergie Jenkins, Tim Keefe, Sandy Koufax+, Bob Lemon, Ted Lyons, Juan Marichal+, Christy Mathewson+**, Joe McGinnity, José Méndez, Hal Newhouser+, Kid Nichols+, Phil Niekro, Satchel Paige+, Jim Palmer+, Gaylord Perry+, Billy Pierce, Eddie Plank, Charley Radbourn, Rick Reuschel, Eppa Rixey, Robin Roberts+, Bullet Rogan+, Red Ruffing, Amos Rusie+, Nolan Ryan, Bret Saberhagen, Tom Seaver+**, Warren Spahn+, Al Spalding, Dave Stieb, Don Sutton+, Dazzy Vance, Rube Waddell, Ed Walsh+, Hoyt Wilhelm+, Smokey Joe Williams, Early Wynn and Cy Young+*.
Catchers (20): Johnny Bench+, Charlie Bennett, Yogi Berra+, Roger Bresnahan, Roy Campanella+, Gary Carter+, Mickey Cochrane+, Bill Dickey, Buck Ewing+, Carlton Fisk+, Bill Freehan, Josh Gibson+, Gabby Hartnett+, Biz Mackey, Cal McVey, Louis Santop+, Ted Simmons+, Joe Torre, Quincy Trouppe and Deacon White+.
First Basemen (21): Cap Anson+, Jeff Bagwell+, Jake Beckley, Dan Brouthers+**, Will Clark+, Roger Connor+, Jimmie Foxx+, Lou Gehrig+*, Hank Greenberg+, Keith Hernandez+, Harmon Killebrew+, Buck Leonard+, Willie McCovey+, Mark McGwire+, Johnny Mize+, Eddie Murray+, Rafael Palmeiro, George Sisler, Joe Start, Mule Suttles, and Bill Terry+.
Second Basemen (22): Roberto Alomar+, Ross Barnes+, Rod Carew+, Cupid Childs, Eddie Collins, Bobby Doerr, Nellie Fox, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gehringer+, Joe Gordon, Frank Grant, Bobby Grich+, Billy Herman, Rogers Hornsby+**, Nap Lajoie+, Bid McPhee, Joe Morgan+, Willie Randolph, Hardy Richardson, Jackie Robinson+, Ryne Sandberg+, and Lou Whitaker+.
Third Basemen (19): Dick Allen+, Frank Baker+, John Beckwith, Wade Boggs+*, George Brett+**, Ken Boyer, Jimmy Collins, Darrell Evans+, Heinie Groh, Stan Hack, Eddie Mathews+, John McGraw, Paul Molitor+, Graig Nettles, Brooks Robinson, Ron Santo+, Mike Schmidt+*, Ezra Sutton, and Jud Wilson.
Shortstops (26): Luke Appling+, Ernie Banks+, Lou Boudreau, Joe Cronin, Bill Dahlen+, George Davis+, Jack Glasscock, Hughie Jennings, Home Run Johnson, Barry Larkin+, John Henry Lloyd, Dick Lundy, Dobie Moore, Dickey Pearce, Pee Wee Reese+, Cal Ripken, Jr.+**, Joe Sewell, Ozzie Smith+, Alan Trammell+, Arky Vaughan+, Honus Wagner+*, Bobby Wallace, John Ward+, Willie Wells, George Wright and Robin Yount+.
Left Fielders (23): Jesse Burkett, Fred Clarke+, Ed Delahanty+, Goose Goslin, Rickey Henderson+*, Monte Irvin, Charley Jones, Charlie Keller, Joe Kelley, Ralph Kiner, Sherry Magee, Joe Medwick, Minnie Minoso, Stan Musial+*, Tim Raines+, Jimmy Sheckard, Al Simmons+, Willie Stargell+, Harry Stovey, Zack Wheat+, Billy Williams, Ted Williams+*, and Carl Yastrzemski+.
Center Fielders (26): Richie Ashburn+, Earl Averill, Cool Papa Bell, Willard Brown, Pete Browning, Max Carey, Oscar Charleston+, Ty Cobb+, Andre Dawson, Joe DiMaggio+*, Larry Doby+, George Gore+, Billy Hamilton+, Pete Hill+, Paul Hines+ , Mickey Mantle+*, Willie Mays+*, Alejandro Oms, Jim O’Rourke+, Lip Pike, Edd Roush, Duke Snider+, Tris Speaker+, Turkey Stearnes+, Cristóbal Torriente and Jimmy Wynn.
Right Fielders (22): Hank Aaron+*, Roberto Clemente+, Sam Crawford**, Dwight Evans+, Elmer Flick, Tony Gwynn+, Harry Heilmann, Joe Jackson, Reggie Jackson+, Al Kaline+, Willie Keeler, King Kelly+, Mel Ott+, Frank Robinson+**, Pete Rose, Babe Ruth+*, Enos Slaughter+, Reggie Smith, Sam Thompson, Larry Walker+, Paul Waner+ and Dave Winfield+.
Designated Hitters (1): Edgar Martinez+
+ first-year candidate honorees (136)
* unanimously first on each voter’s ballot (15)
** placed in “elect me” ballot positions on each voter’s ballot, but not unanimously in first (8)
2012 Franchise Cap Standings
1. Giants - 18 (Bresnahan, WClark, Connor, GDavis, DaEvans, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe,
Marichal, Mathewson, WMays, McCovey, McGinnity, Ott, GPerry, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
2. Cubs - 17 (Anson, Banks, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett,
BiHerman, Jenkins, KKelly, Reuschel, Sandberg, Santo, Sheckard, BiWilliams)
3T. Braves - 13 (Aaron, Barnes, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, PNiekro, O'Rourke, Spahn,
Spalding, ESutton, Torre, DWhite, GWright)
3T. Indians - 13 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson,
Lajoie, Lemon, JSewell, Speaker, EWynn)
3T. Yankees - 13 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Gordon, Gossage, Keller,
Mantle, Nettles, Randolph, Ruffing, Ruth)
6T. Cardinals - 12 (KBoyer, Caruthers, Frisch, BGibson, KHernandez, Hornsby, Medwick,
Mize, Musial, TSimmons, Slaughter, OSmith)
6T. Athletics - 12 (FBaker, Cochrane, Eckersley, Fingers, Foxx, Grove, Henderson, McGwire, Plank,
ReJackson, ASimmons, Waddell)
8. Tigers - 11 (Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Freehan, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline,
Newhouser, Trammell, Whitaker)
9T. Phillies - 10 (Alexander, DAllen, Ashburn, Carlton, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts,
Schmidt, Thompson)
9T. Reds - 10 (Bench, CJones, Groh, Larkin, McPhee, Morgan, Rixey, FRobinson, Rose, Roush)
11T. Dodgers - 9 (Campanella, Drysdale, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, DSutton,
Vance, Wheat)
11T. Pirates - 9 (Beckley, Carey, Clarke, Clemente, Kiner, Stargell, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
11T. White Sox - 9 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Fox, Lyons, Minoso, BPierce, Walsh, Wilhelm)
14. Red Sox - 8 (Boggs, JCollins, Doerr, DwEvans, Fisk, RSmith, TWilliams, Yastrzemski)
15T. Orioles - 6 (Murray, Palmer, Ripken, BRobinson, Sisler, Wallace)
15T. Twins - 6 (Blyleven, Carew, Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson, Killebrew)
17. Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 4 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley, McGraw)
18T. Buffalo Bisons - 3 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson)
18T. Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
18T. Cleveland Spiders - 3 (Burkett, Childs, CYoung)
18T. Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
18T. Kansas City Monarchs - 3 (WBrown, DMoore, Rogan)
18T. Nationals - 3 (GCarter, Dawson, Raines)
18T. Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
25T. Angels - 2 (Grich, NRyan)
25T. Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
25T. Blue Jays - 2 (Alomar, Stieb)
25T. Astros - 2 (Bagwell, JWynn)
25T. Brewers - 2 (Molitor, Yount)
25T. Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
25T. Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
25T. Mets - 2 (Cone, Seaver)
25T. New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
25T. Padres - 2 (Gwynn, Winfield)
25T Rangers - 2 (K. Brown, Palmeiro)
25T. Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
25T. Royals - 2 (Brett, Saberhagen)
38T. Almendares Blues - 1 (JMendez)
35T. Atlantic City Bacharach Giants - 1 (Lundy)
35T. Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
35T. Cleveland Buckeyes - 1 (QTrouppe)
35T. Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
35T. Cuban Stars East - 1 (Oms)
35T. Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
35T. Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
35T. Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo)
35T. Hilldale Daisies - 1 (Mackey)
35T. Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
35T. Louisville Colonels - 1 (Browning)
35T. Mariners - 1 (Martinez)
35T. Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
35T. Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
35T. Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
35T. Pittsburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
35T Rockies - 1 (Walker)
35T. Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
2012 Cap Standings by City
1T. Chicago - 29 (Anson, Appling, Banks, M. Brown, J. Clarkson,
E. Collins, Dahlen, Faber, B. Foster, Fox, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett,
Herman, Hill, Jenkins, Kelly, Lyons, Minoso, Pierce, Reuschel, Sandberg, Santo,
Sheckard, Torriente, Walsh, Wilhelm, Bi. Williams)
1T. New York - 29 (Berra, Bresnahan, Cone, Connor, G. Davis, Dickey,
DiMaggio, Ewing, Ford, Gehrig, Gordon, Gossage, Hubbell, Keefe, Keller,
Lloyd, Mantle, Mathewson, McGinnity, Nettles, Ott, Randolph, Ruffing,
Rusie, Ruth, Seaver, Terry, Ward, J. Williams)
3. Philadelphia - 19 (Alexander, Allen, Ashburn, Baker, Carlton,
Cochrane, Delahanty, R. Foster, Foxx, Grove, Hamilton, Magee, Plank,
Roberts, Schmidt, A. Simmons, H. Stovey, Thompson, Waddell)
4T. Cleveland - 18 (Averill, Boudreau, Burkett, Childs, Coveleski,
Doby, Feller, W. Ferrell, Flick, Glasscock, J. Jackson, Lajoie, Lemon,
Sewell, Speaker, Trouppe, E. Wynn, Young)
4T. St. Louis - 18 (Bell, Boyer, Caruthers, Frisch, B. Gibson,
Hernandez, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Pike, T. Simmons, Sisler,
Slaughter, Smith, Suttles, Wallace, Wells)
6. Boston - 16 (Barnes, Boggs, J. Collins, Doerr, Dw. Evans, Fisk,
McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Smith, Spalding, E. Sutton, White, T. Williams,
G. Wright, Yastrzemski)
7T. Detroit - 13 (Bennett, Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Freehan,
Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser, Stearnes, Trammell,
Whitaker)
7T. Pittsburgh - 13 (Beckley, R. Brown, Carey, Clarke, Clemente,
J. Gibson, Kiner, B. Leonard, Paige, Stargell, Vaughan, Wagner, Waner)
9T. Baltimore - 10 (Beckwith, Jennings, Keeler, Kelley, McGraw,
Murray, Palmer, Ripken, B. Robinson, Wilson)
9T. Brooklyn* - 10 (Campanella, G. Johnson, Pearce, Reese,
J. Robinson, Santop, Snider, Start, Vance, Wheat)
9T. Cincinnati - 10 (Bench, Groh, Jones, Larkin, McPhee, Morgan, Rixey,
F. Robinson, Rose, Roush)
12T. Milwaukee - 6 (Aaron, Mathews, Molitor, Spahn, Torre, Yount)
12T. San Francisco - 6 (Clark, Da. Evans, Marichal, Mays, McCovey, G. Perry)
14T. Kansas City - 5 (Brett, W. Brown, Moore, Rogan, Saberhagen)
14T. Oakland - 5 (Eckersley, Fingers, Henderson, R. Jackson, McGwire)
16T. Buffalo - 3 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson)
16T. Los Angeles - 3 (Drysdale, Koufax, D. Sutton)
16T. Montreal - 3 (Carter, Dawson, Raines)
16T. Minneapolis/St. Paul - 3 (Blyleven, Carew, Killebrew)
16T. Washington, DC - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, W. Johnson)
21T. Anaheim* - 2 (Grich, N. Ryan)
21T. Arlington - 2 (K. Brown, Palmeiro)
21T. Houston - 2 (Bagwell, J. Wynn)
21T. N/A - 2 (F. Grant, Oms)
21T. Providence - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
21T. San Diego – 2 (Gwynn, Winfield)
21T. Toronto – 2 (Alomar, Stieb)
28T. Almendares* - 1 (Mendez)
28T. Atlanta - 1 (Niekro)
28T. Atlantic City – 1 (Lundy)
28T. Darby, PA* - 1 (Mackey)
28T. Denver - 1 (Walker)
28T. Havana - 1 (Dihigo)
28T. Indianapolis - 1 (Charleston)
28T. Louisville – 1 (Browning)
28T. Newark - 1 (Irvin)
28T. Seattle – 1 (Martinez)
* Cities marked with an asterisk could be considered to be part of another city.
2012 Cap Standings by State, Province, Foreign Country (if there is no
knowm state or province) or U.S. Capital:
1. New York (42)
2. Pennsylvania (33)
3T. Illinois (28)
3T. Ohio (28)
5. Missouri (23)
6. California (18)
7. Massachusetts (16)
8. Michigan (13)
9. Maryland (10)
10. Wisconsin (6)
11. Texas (4)
12T. Minnesota (3)
12T. Quebec (3)
12T. District of Columbia (3)
15T. Cuba (2)
15T. New Jersey (2)
15T. Rhode Island (2)
15T. Georgia (2)
15T. Indiana (2)
15T. Kentucky (2)
15T. Ontario (2)
22T. Colorado (1)
22T. Oregon (1)
Note all mentions of Win Shares on plaques are adjusted to 162 games.
All Negro League awards mentioned on the plaques are from John Holway’s The Complete Book of Baseball’s Negro Leagues (Fleet Walker Award = MVP; George Stovey Award = Cy Young Award; Rube Foster Award = Playoff MVP).
Primary positions on the plaques will be distinguished from secondary positions on all plaques by bold type.
Seasons are calculated this way: (Games Played/Team’s Scheduled Games). Each result is added up for each season to get the final number shown on each plaque.
We’ll leave the current inductees at the top of the list until the next election ends at the end of this year.
Newly Elected This Year
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hit 302/390 with 2285 hits
100 rbis 8 times
led in fielding % twice
I included everything except the hits.
I thought that was because of his lack of versatiley
This time out I agree with Yest. I would definitely not describe Killebrew as the type of player who starred at multiple positions. It much closer to say that he was a great hitter who also played a couple of different positions.
I think the jury is out on how good Killebrew was defensively. My instinct is that he was okay at first, and not okay at the other positions he played, although that's probably biased by strat-o-matic cards I played with growing up. Still, unless there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I do not believe he could have adequately played second or third for most or all of his career. "Starring at muliple positions" strongly implies that he could have been a near gold glover at those positions, and I don't think that's accurate.
I think anyone reading all of the plaques can read between the lines and figure out that his defense wasn't his strong suit, but how about this:
A versatile player, he helped his team out when needed at multiple positions throughout his career without complaining about it.
I like it better
Buck Ewing
hit 300 10 times
led in fielding % once
hit 300 10 times
led in fielding % once
Okay, yest.
hit 409/458/591 in the 1946 WS
held the AL record for 414 chances without an error
five times in fielding percentage
I have 4 1942-43, 1946, and 1950 (from Total Baseball and Retrosheet)
I did everything except:
held the AL record for 414 chances without an error
Did he have that record at the time of his retirement?
Joe Jackson: from Cleveland Indians to Cleveland Naps
Clark Griffith: from Chicago Cubs to Chicago Colts
Did he have that record at the time of his retirement?
I got that on his HoF plaque and could only find this on the subject
retired with the career record for assists 1404
» July 13, 1943: The AL edges the NL 5-3 at Shibe Park in the first All-Star Game played under the lights. Bobby Doerr of the Red Sox is the hitting hero with a 3-run HR off Mort Cooper in the second inning. Vince DiMaggio of the Pirates has a single, triple and HR in three trips. Doerr also handled six fielding chances. At the All-Star break he had handled 307 errorless chances, dating back to May 20th. His AL streak will end at 349 chances, a record he will break in 1948.
My last change :-) in regard to the Killebrew plaque (unless to correct a data error):
A versatile player, he helped his team out when needed at multiple positions throughout his career without any reservations.
Took care of the Doerr and Galvin plaques, yest.
led in total chances 7 times (I saw 8 in an article but counted 7 in 1909-10 1912-14 1917-18 )
retired with the AL record for the most putouts in a season 233 in 1913 (broken by Kamm in 1927 and 28 currently 3rd)
led in fielding % 3 times according to retrosheet and twice according to Total Baseball (1912 is up for dispute with Total Baseball giving it to Terry Turner who had 951 fielding % in 345 chances and 103 games while HR Baker had a 942 fielding % in 572 chances and 149 games)
Santo led the NL in total chances 8 times
I saw in a few articles on him he led 9 times
Were you able to count them?
I just counted them and they were 8 from 1961-68
I don't know when I'll get to those changes, yest. I'm taking a real estate course this month and time is very limited.
<u>1982 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1T. Cubs - 13 (Anson, Banks, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Santo, Sheckard)
1T. Giants - 13 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Marichal, Mathewson, WMays, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
2. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
4. Braves - 10 (Aaron, Barnes, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5. Yankees - 9 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Gordon, Mantle, Ruffing, Ruth)
6T. Cardinals - 8 (Caruthers, Frisch, BGibson, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
6T. Dodgers - 8 (Campanella, Drysdale, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
6T. Tigers - 8 (Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser)
9. Phillies - 7 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
10T.Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
10T.Pirates - 6 (Carey, Clarke, Clemente, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
10T.White Sox - 6 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh, Wilhelm)
13T.Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
13T.Reds - 4 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey, FRobinson)
13T.Twins - 4 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson, Killebrew)
16T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
16T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
16T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
16T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
16T.Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
21T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
21T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
21T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
21T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
21T.Kansas City Monarchs - 2 (WBrown, Rogan)
21T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
21T.Orioles - 2 (Sisler, Wallace)
21T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
29T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
29T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
29T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
29T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
29T.Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo)
29T.Hilldale Daisies - 1 (Mackey)
29T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
29T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
29T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
29T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
29T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
29T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
I assume you meant to write: "the Orioles' single-season record for HR (49 in 1966)"
Oops! I'll change that now before I run out to class. Thanks!
> Losing three digits from your hand may be viewed as a negative by the vast majority of us,
> but Mordecai “Three Finger” Brown would definitely disagree.</i>
to info on Cindy Thompson, Three Finger, new book biography
2006-08-09: "for those of you who have been waiting, Three Finger: The Mordecai Brown Story is now available." -CT
As I recall, it is Mordecai's three-finger grip based on a contemporary image.
U of N Press page on the book
From there, one can click on the image to enlarge.
Its a pretty cool cover.
(once playing third and first when only eight men showed up at the park)
He once achieved "the split", fielding a bunt toward the hot corner while planting a toe on the initial sack.
<u>1983 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1 . Cubs - 14 (Anson, Banks, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Santo, Sheckard, BiWilliams)
2. Giants - 13 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Marichal, Mathewson, WMays, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
3. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
4. Braves - 10 (Aaron, Barnes, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5. Yankees - 9 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Gordon, Mantle, Ruffing, Ruth)
6T. Cardinals - 8 (Caruthers, Frisch, BGibson, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
6T. Dodgers - 8 (Campanella, Drysdale, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
6T. Phillies - 8 (Alexander, DAllen, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
6T. Tigers - 8 (Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser)
10T.Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
10T.Pirates - 6 (Carey, Clarke, Clemente, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
10T.White Sox - 6 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh, Wilhelm)
13T.Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
13T.Reds - 4 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey, FRobinson)
13T.Twins - 4 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson, Killebrew)
16T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
16T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
16T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
16T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
16T.Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
21T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
21T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
21T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
21T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
21T.Kansas City Monarchs - 2 (WBrown, Rogan)
21T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
21T.Orioles - 2 (Sisler, Wallace)
21T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
29T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
29T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
29T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
29T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
29T.Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo)
29T.Hilldale Daisies - 1 (Mackey)
29T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
29T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
29T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
29T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
29T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
29T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
Paul, I updated TF Brown's plaque. Thanks for spotting that.
Yest, I did everything from post# 895, except:
led in fielding % 3 times according to retrosheet and twice according to Total Baseball (1912 is up for dispute with Total Baseball giving it to Terry Turner who had 951 fielding % in 345 chances and 103 games while HR Baker had a 942 fielding % in 572 chances and 149 games)
I don't know which one to pick.
Were you able to count them?
I just counted them and they were 8 from 1961-68
So Santo only had those 8 years leading in total chances?
I just counted them and they were 8 from 1961-68
So Santo only had those 8 years leading in total chances?
yes
Charlie Gehringer
Excellent hands and range helped him achieve the league lead in fielding percentage nine times
I have 7 1929-30, 1935-37, 1939, and 1941 (from Total Baseball and Retrosheet)
A solid offensive player, the left-handed Gehringer had good power and patience at the plate for a player at his position. As a base stealer, he was a fine percentage player for his era.
A solid offensive player (hit 320/404 with 2839 hits hitting 300 13 times), the left-handed Gehringer had good power (40 doubles 7 times) and patience at the plate (1186 walks) for a player at his position. As a base stealer, he was a fine percentage player for his era(181 steals with a 67% success rate.)
Member of three pennant winners (1934, 1940 and the World Champs of 1935)
Member of three pennant winners (1934 (hitting 379/438/517), 1940 and the World Champs of 1935 (hitting 375/423/500))
and most career BB (10, 237).
there’s a space in between the comma and the 2
the left-handed Gehringer had good power (40 doubles 7 times)
I mentioned that he had the AL record for career homers for a second baseman instead. I also left out the SB info.
2930 hits
retired for the NL single season record for Total Bases 450 in 1922
retired for the NL single season record for run created 206 in 1922
retired for the NL single season record for slugging% 7560 in 1925
retired for the NL career record for slugging% .5783
hit 402 from 1921-25
retired with the career record for highest obp by a righty 4337
retired for the NL single season record for most hits by a righty in a season 250 in 1922
Retired with numerous records including the major league second base career records for HR (264)
Retired with numerous records including the major league second base career records for HR (264 (301 total))
I agree with your sentiment, David. Hornsby, Ruth, Gehrig, etc. just can't have every record attached to their plaques. Besides, they don't need them like many of the others (where padding can't hurt). Anybody reviewing the no-brainers' plaques has to know that they were stars of the first magnitude. With that said, I doubt that I will add anything else to Hornsby's plaque.
I got nothing against more info on the Rajah plaque. There's a lot that could go up, though, so look at all of it. For example, he won six consective 'Sabermetric Triple Crowns' (avg/obp/slg) from 1920-25 and tacked on a seventh in 1928.
"Perenially led the National League in most offensive statisics". :-)
The Orioles are now tied with their namesake NL franchise. The NL-Orioles, their syndicate sister in Brooklyn and the Braves franchise (as the Beaneaters) won every NL pennant between 1891-1900.
<u>1984 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1 . Cubs - 14 (Anson, Banks, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Santo, Sheckard, BiWilliams)
2. Giants - 13 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Marichal, Mathewson, WMays, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
3. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
4. Braves - 11 (Aaron, Barnes, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, Torre, GWright)
5. Yankees - 9 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Gordon, Mantle, Ruffing, Ruth)
6T. Cardinals - 8 (Caruthers, Frisch, BGibson, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
6T. Dodgers - 8 (Campanella, Drysdale, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
6T. Phillies - 8 (Alexander, DAllen, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
6T. Tigers - 8 (Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser)
10T.Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
10T.Pirates - 6 (Carey, Clarke, Clemente, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
10T.White Sox - 6 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh, Wilhelm)
13T.Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
13T.Reds - 4 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey, FRobinson)
13T.Twins - 4 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson, Killebrew)
16T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
16T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
16T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
16T.Orioles - 3 (BRobinson, Sisler, Wallace)
16T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
16T.Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
22T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
22T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
22T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
22T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
22T.Kansas City Monarchs - 2 (WBrown, Rogan)
22T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
22T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
29T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
29T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
29T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
29T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
29T.Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo)
29T.Hilldale Daisies - 1 (Mackey)
29T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
29T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
29T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
29T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
29T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
29T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
The Reds won't have much of a problem pulling away. We'll start electing them in bunches with Bench in '89 and Morgan in '90, followed by Rose in '92 or '93 depending on boycotts.
The Twins only need the one cap but they might be hard-pressed to get it for a while. Jim Kaat looks to be their best shot but he shows up in a pretty stacked year ('89) and may have to wait a bit before he gets in.
The Red Sox and Orioles will both pick up pretty easy fourth caps in 1989 and 1990 with Carl Yastrzemski and Jim Palmer. The Red Sox have a couple of shots at that second cap- Luis Tiant in '88, Jim Rice in '95, Fred Lynn in '96- but none of those candidates is the shoo-in of a Yaz. However, they won't have to wait forever. Well, not unless the powers that be decide to give Fisk a White cap instead of a Red one when he's inducted in '99 or 2000.
As for the Orioles: after Palmer, there's one dark horse candidate in Ken Singleton (1990). But other than that, they'll have to wait until 2003 when Eddie Murray becomes eligible.
I don't think Kaat makes it. Carew (c. 1991) and Blyleven ('98) are pretty likely though.
1 . Cubs - 14 (Anson, Banks, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Santo, Sheckard, BiWilliams)
2T. Giants - 13 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Marichal, Mathewson, WMays, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
2T. Indians - 13 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, JSewell, Speaker, EWynn)
4. Braves - 11 (Aaron, Barnes, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, Torre, GWright)
5T. Tigers - 9 (Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Freehan, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser)
5T. Yankees - 9 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Gordon, Mantle, Ruffing, Ruth)
7T. Cardinals - 8 (Caruthers, Frisch, BGibson, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
7T. Dodgers - 8 (Campanella, Drysdale, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
7T. Phillies - 8 (Alexander, DAllen, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
10T.Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
10T.Pirates - 6 (Carey, Clarke, Clemente, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
10T.White Sox - 6 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh, Wilhelm)
13T.Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
13T.Reds - 4 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey, FRobinson)
13T.Twins - 4 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson, Killebrew)
16T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
16T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
16T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
16T.Orioles - 3 (BRobinson, Sisler, Wallace)
16T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
16T.Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
22T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
22T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
22T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
22T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
22T.Kansas City Monarchs - 2 (WBrown, Rogan)
22T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
22T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
29T.Almendares Blues - 1 (JMendez)
29T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
29T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
29T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
29T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
29T.Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo)
29T.Hilldale Daisies - 1 (Mackey)
29T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
29T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
29T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
29T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
29T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
29T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
It's corrected. Thanks, rawagman!
This could go on for a while.
I need separate league templates...
Sorry, but rawagman just reminded me that I also saw a few AL references in Mel Ott's plaque a few months ago.
Why are you screaming at me, yest?
I thought we decided that his plaque is humongous as it is. Anything else is just overkill.
Sorry, but rawagman just reminded me that I also saw a few AL references in Mel Ott's plaque a few months ago.
Thanks, Rick. I'll get right on it.
Hank Greenberg
331 HRs hit 313/412/605
retired with the AL career record for RBIs per game .947
led in fielding % once at 1st base
That's what I thought. I knew Rogers Hornsby wouldn't get you that worked up. :-)
Hank Greenberg
331 HRs hit 313/412/605
retired with the AL career record for RBIs per game .947
led in fielding % once at 1st base
I included everything but the homers (I do have his Tiger team career record, though).
- I'd probably list shortstop as his secondary position - I've seen more references to him playing shortstop than third base (though I know he played some at 3B too). (For example, Riley says he played shortstop after 1916 and continued to play some shortstop when he returned to pitching; Gary A provides his range factor at shortstop in the Dobie Moore thread--his range was excellent (as was Moore's).
- To fill in his other Cuban League teams, add Santa Clara (1923-25), Habana (1925-26), and Alacranes (1926-27).
- He was the all-time Cuban League career leader in winning percentage -- Figueredo gives his record as 76-28 (.731).
- Holds the Cuban League record for most seasons leading the league with an undefeated record (3 times - 1908; 1910; and 1913-14).
- Tied the Cuban League record for most seasons leading the league in winning percentage (5) -- the 3 seasons above plus 1908-09 and 1910-11.
- Famous for pitching 25 consecutive shutout innings against Cincinnati in November/December 1908. (See Mendez thread) # 70.
- Playing manager for Kansas City Monarchs.
- According to the HOF's statistics, from 1920-26 he went 27-12 in NNL play with a 2.70 ERA.
- In the 1924 NLWS, with the series tied 4-4 he pitched a 3-hit shutout in the final, deciding game.
- I'd probably list shortstop as his secondary position - I've seen more references to him playing shortstop than third base (though I know he played some at 3B too). (For example, Riley says he played shortstop after 1916 and continued to play some shortstop when he returned to pitching; Gary A provides his range factor at shortstop in the Dobie Moore thread--his range was excellent (as was Moore's).
I agree with you, so that has been added. I also mention his fielding prowess now.
- To fill in his other Cuban League teams, add Santa Clara (1923-25), Habana (1925-26), and Alacranes (1926-27).
Added.
- He was the all-time Cuban League career leader in winning percentage -- Figueredo gives his record as 76-28 (.731).
That has been amended.
- In the 1924 NLWS, with the series tied 4-4 he pitched a 3-hit shutout in the final, deciding game.
That definitely belongs.
- Famous for pitching 25 consecutive shutout innings against Cincinnati in November/December 1908. (See Mendez thread) # 70.
- Playing manager for Kansas City Monarchs.
- According to the HOF's statistics, from 1920-26 he went 27-12 in NNL play with a 2.70 ERA.
I don't include player-managing on plaques, since we only evaluate on-field play.
As for the other facts, they're interesting, but not truly standout (was the scoreless stretch a record? If so, I would add it then). I'm not particularly bound by this, however.
- Holds the Cuban League record for most seasons leading the league with an undefeated record (3 times - 1908; 1910; and 1913-14).
- Tied the Cuban League record for most seasons leading the league in winning percentage (5) -- the 3 seasons above plus 1908-09 and 1910-11.
Did Mendez play those seasons from the end of one year to the beginning of the next (IOW, 1908-09 as his first season, for example)? I'm a little confused by the dates above (the info is great and will eventually be posted, BTW). If you could elaborate further in regard to the dates, I would greatly appreciate it, Brent.
Thanks again!
I'm sorry; I know the dating is confusing. All of these Cuban League seasons were during the winter. In 1908 the season ran from January 1 to March 16, and in 1910 it lasted from February 6 to April 3; thus Figueredo dates them as 1908 and 1910. But to make them consistent with the other seasons (which usually started in December), you could refer to them as 1907-08 and 1909-10. I think that would be unambiguous as to which season is being described and consistent with the conventions for the other seasons.
I amended the plaque with your additions. Once again, thank you!
Basically, it's the equivalent of pitching at least 10 G in the top league available to the guy (or NL, AL, AA, PL, UA accepted in all cases). He gets an asterisk if he didn't pitch the equivalent of 154 IP for a 154-G season. I asterisked 1915 and 1918-22 and 1924.
Would anyone care to refine those? It's a start, and there's no way to be 'perfect,' but improvements are welcomed.
he left the game with the AL career record for RBI per game witha .947 mark
with a
That's what I thought. I knew Rogers Hornsby wouldn't get you that worked up. :-)
but it does :>)
Thanks, Brent. The NeL guys are the ones that need to have their plaques scrutinized the most, not to mention "puffed up" more because they don't have the statistical advantage that the major league inductees have.
Jud Wilson
according to the HoF had a 507 slugging% for his career
455 batting avg in 3 east west all star games
Satchel Paige named Jud "Boojum" Wilson as one of the two toughest hitters he ever faced, and Josh Gibson considered Wilson the game's best hitter.
Credited with the highest lifetime batting average for a Negro League player with at least 2,000 AB
Credited with the highest lifetime batting average for a Negro League player (in league play) with at least 2,000 AB
he left the game with the AL career record for RBI per game witha .947 mark
with a
Got it, yest.
Jud Wilson
according to the HoF had a 507 slugging% for his career
455 batting avg in 3 east west all star games
Added.
Satchel Paige named Jud "Boojum" Wilson as one of the two toughest hitters he ever faced, and Josh Gibson considered Wilson the game's best hitter.
I usually don't add testimonials like that. I think I have done it once and that was only because I was having an extremely hard time finding stuff to add.
Credited with the highest lifetime batting average for a Negro League player with at least 2,000 AB
Credited with the highest lifetime batting average for a Negro League player (in league play) with at least 2,000 AB
All Negro League stats that I add are from league play, so there's no reason to add anything else.
Thanks!
tied that league’s record for consecutive seasons leading in winning percentage with 5 (1908, 1908-09, 1909-10, 1910, and 1910-11),
That should be most seasons (not consecutive seasons), and the seasons should be (1908, 1908-09, 1910, 1910-11, and 1913-14).
Also, the wording isn't quite right; Méndez set the record, which was later tied by José Acosta.
Thanks.
The franchises have met in the World Series four times. Once at their current locations as Bay Area rivals in the Earthquake Series of 1989 and three times in their old NY/PHI locations in 1905, 1911 and 1913. (Hard to belief it would be the other two NY/PHI teams that would end up surviving). The Giants won the first series behind four shutouts (three by Mathewson). Inductee Waddell sat out the series due to an injury obtained roughhousing with a teammate. Then the A's won the next three meetings due to the exemplary play of the early 10s and late 80s dynastic squads.
<u>1986 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1T. Cubs - 14 (Anson, Banks, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Santo, Sheckard, BiWilliams)
1T. Giants - 14 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Marichal, Mathewson, WMays, McCovey, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
3. Indians - 13 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, JSewell, Speaker, EWynn)
4. Braves - 11 (Aaron, Barnes, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, Torre, GWright)
5T. Tigers - 9 (Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Freehan, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser)
5T. Yankees - 9 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Gordon, Mantle, Ruffing, Ruth)
7T. Cardinals - 8 (Caruthers, Frisch, BGibson, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
7T. Dodgers - 8 (Campanella, Drysdale, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
7T. Phillies - 8 (Alexander, DAllen, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
10. Athletics - 7 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons, Waddell)
11T.Pirates - 6 (Carey, Clarke, Clemente, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
11T.White Sox - 6 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh, Wilhelm)
13T.Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
13T.Reds - 4 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey, FRobinson)
13T.Twins - 4 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson, Killebrew)
16T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
16T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
16T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
16T.Orioles - 3 (BRobinson, Sisler, Wallace)
16T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
16T.Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
22T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
22T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
22T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
22T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
22T.Kansas City Monarchs - 2 (WBrown, Rogan)
22T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
22T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
29T.Almendares Blues - 1 (JMendez)
29T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
29T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
29T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
29T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
29T.Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo)
29T.Hilldale Daisies - 1 (Mackey)
29T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
29T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
29T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
29T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
29T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
29T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
Shouldn't that read "AL", John?
That would be 4 times, right?
The White Sox may receive two caps in '87 if Minoso gets it.
302 batting avg 2134 hits (remember scheduling)
NL Triple Crown (1878)
NL Triple Crown (first one)(1878)
according to some the 1st unassisted triple play 5/8/1878
led in fielding % twice
302 batting avg 2134 hits (remember scheduling)
NL Triple Crown (1878)
NL Triple Crown (first one)(1878)
according to some the 1st unassisted triple play 5/8/1878
led in fielding % twice
Hines' plaque needed some meat on its bones, compared to later ones (Joe was more economical with the bandwith, I guess :-)
I added everything, except the hits. Yes, you're 100% right about the scheduling, but the number of hits is still not sexy enough. However, I did add a few other things to Hines' plaque to give it more heft which I think you'll approve of.
retired with the career record for strikeouts 2562
record 19 wins in a row in 1888
retired with the career record for strikeouts 2562
record 19 wins in a row in 1888
I took care of that, yest, plus more to puff up this very early plaque.
hit 301/386/411 in leagues that were 265/316/361
100 runs 7 times
hit 301/386/411 in leagues that were 265/316/361
100 runs 7 times
Another early plaque, I've beefed him up.
hit 301/386/411 in leagues that were 265/316/361
I included the BA and the OPS, but left out the SLG. I included his OPS+, though, which says the same thing you were trying to.
Thanks!
Attendance records from the 16-team era show:
Boston: The Red Sox, just about always. They were vulnerable during the 1920's, but the Braves were almost as incompetent. Once Yawkey bought the team in 1932, it was no contest.
St.Louis: During the early years, it was usually a Browns' town. 1926 put the tenants of Sportsman's Park ahead of the landlords for good.
Philadephia: In one sense it was practically always the A's. It was bad timing that the Whiz kids arrived just before the moving restraints were removed and the Mack family decided to sell. Then again, the A's were often vulnerable, but the Phillies were often worse, so in another way, indifference may be the keyword.
Chicago: During the 00's, the White Sox often outdrew the Giants as the most popular team in baseball. Chance's Cubs were the other team in town. The Black Sox scandal left a void which the Cubs would then fill. They fell apart post-war when the Sox were ascending. Back and forth.
New York: Giants! Until Ruth. Rickey's Dodgers knocked them to 3rd.
The AL initially took the lead in 4 of the 5 shared cities (though it was still somewhat close in St. Louis). 50 years of stasis allowed plenty of time for generational swings in fan loyalty, though.
and 1 time in fielding percentage
I have twice 58 and 59 (from Total Baseball and Retrosheet)
20 HRs 10 years in a row (11 total)
and 1 time in fielding percentage
I have twice 58 and 59 (from Total Baseball and Retrosheet)
20 HRs 10 years in a row (11 total)
I added the fielding percentage amendment, yest, but his plaque doesn't need anything more. Besides, anyone reading it will know that his power was outstanding for a backstop due to his AL home run records.
341 batting avg with 2932 hits
341 batting avg with 2932 hits
Got it, yest.
Mel Ott
according to some sources retired with the NL record for most rbis 1860 (BB-REF give Cap Anson 1879 NL RBIs)
posted a NL record eight consecutive 100-RBI seasons
posted a NL record eight consecutive 100-RBI seasons (9 total also 9 100 runs seasons)
hit 304/414/533 with 2876 hits
100 walks 10 times
according to some sources retired with the NL record for most rbis 1860 (BB-REF give Cap Anson 1879 NL RBIs)
So, if Anson had more, then it wasn't the record. Is bb-ref wrong? Did 'some sources' just not include 19th century play? (The 1860 already shows up as a Giants record.)
hit 304/414/533 with 2876 hits
The 414, 533 and 2876 are already in there as Giants records.
I agree, David.
hit 304/414/533 with 2876 hits
As David pointed out, except for the BA (which is now included), everything else was mentioned already.
they included the 19th centuray cause Anson was 2nd They may have had a different way of marking RBI's cause Anson had 1715 rbis
Sam Thompson
hit 331/384/505 in leagues that were 276/343/376
led in fielding% twice
retired with the single season record for rbis 166 in 1887
retired with the career record for At Bats per Home Run 47.12
(including eight 100-plus seasons, not to mention ten seasons of at least 100 runs)
(including eight 100-plus seasons, not to mention ten seasons of at least 100 runs(in 10 full seasons))
hit 331/384/505 in leagues that were 276/343/376
led in fielding% twice
retired with the single season record for rbis 166 in 1887
retired with the career record for At Bats per Home Run 47.12
(including eight 100-plus seasons, not to mention ten seasons of at least 100 runs)
(including eight 100-plus seasons, not to mention ten seasons of at least 100 runs(in 10 full seasons))
I did everything except the last thing, yest. If he had played only ten seasons, then maybe that would have been something to add, but he didn't.
Well, there is probably a cool anecdote about how they found 164 NL RBI for Anson, but I can't seem to find it right now. I'll check my old Total Baseball when I get home. They had a chapter on stuff like the Cobb/Lajoie controversy and I think Pete Alexander lost a win at some point as well (he thought he had passed Mathewson).
The HOF simply leaves the RBI column blank for Anson saying that RBI wasn't an official statistic until 1920. Ha... no help there.
Not really arguing or contesting anything, but these types of historical number changes always pique my curiosity.
led in fielding% 4 times all at first
led in fielding% 4 times all at first
I amended his plaque, yest.
career record for most putout/game 2.66
hit 311/390
A fine batsman, the right-handed Jennings could hit for average (he owns the 19th Century record at .398 in 1896)
what record
The shortstop record, yest. Thanks!
holds the NL career record for assists 1503
20 wins a NL record 13 times (12 in a row)(at retirment)
1905-NL-Triple Crown and 1908-NL-Triple Crown
Ay, caramba! I took care of it, Toilet Man.
Christy Mathewson
holds the NL career record for assists 1503
20 wins a NL record 13 times (12 in a row)(at retirment)
1905-NL-Triple Crown and 1908-NL-Triple Crown
His plaque is now amended, yest.
retired with the career record for saves 24
habit of playing both games of many a doubleheader
he did it 5 times winning both 3 times
20 wins 8 years in a row
retired with the career record for saves 24
habit of playing both games of many a doubleheader
he did it 5 times winning both 3 times
20 wins 8 years in a row
Got it, yest.
If you plan to make his plaque 8000 pages long, this might belong on there. As a footnote.
:-)
If it were Cy Young or Walter Johnson, I would definitely agree, but McGinnity's plaque was a little lacking relatively so I didn't mind.
how a bought Kid Nichols who also retired with the career record for saves (17)
Kid Nichols
tied for the record for highest fielding% in a season 1000 in 1896
Kid Nichols
tied for the record for highest fielding% in a season 1000 in 1896
I added the saves, but not the other record since so many people share that record. If I could narrow it down by number of games or innings, then I might reconsider.
Who cares about saves when complete game percentages were so high? Might as well give everyone with a complete game win a save.
Good point, DL, but I like to add positive things to a plaque that are not too humongous if I can. Of course, if yest had his way, every record would be posted. :-)
no just the major ones but I would like to list all the things that are plausable for the plaque so you at least know your options personaly I wouldn't
Ted Lyons
pitched a 21 inning game 5/24/29
No, it's supposed to be AL. :-) What I do when I set up new plaques is pick an old plaque (preferably one with the same position) and type in the new information. Sometimes I forget to change the old league to the new one. :-(
It's fixed now.
John Henry Lloyd is listed playing for Lincoln Giants twice in 1915.
That should have been the Lincoln Stars. When you're typing in 20 teams for some of the NeLers, it can get confusing. :-)
I never really looked at these plaques before, I bet they're full of surprises for us to find. (Just playing...they're very interesting actually.)
No, I took your comment as a good natured one. :-) What I need to do is e-mail the plaques prior to posting them to someone else to proofread them. Another pair of eyes always helps.
Thanks, Toilet Man!
pitched a 21 inning game 5/24/29
I added it, yest.
no just the major ones but I would like to list all the things that are plausable for the plaque so you at least know your options personaly I wouldn't
I wasn't serious, yest. As usual, I appreciate your help.
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