2006 Cincinnati Reds
The Intro
Good day, welcome to Baseball Think Factory, this is the Cincinnati Reds Preview, and I'm your writer, Internet's Greg Tamer. Sit down, relax, take your
pants off, and enjoy!
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even begins, let's get started...
The Review
For the fifth straight season (it's only been five seasons!?) the Reds finished 2005 with a losing record, and it's now been ten straight seasons without a
post-season appearance (with apologies to the '99 team who lost to the Mets in the one-game playoff for the Wild Card spot).
But at least they haven't finished below a .400 winning percentage since 1982 when 34-year-old Johnny Bench was starting at 3B (not that he was their
biggest problem that year; just a fun fact, that's all).
And, of course, there's still 1990 to reminisce about.
Bah! The problem here is the feeling of a lack of a future. Five years of losing wouldn't be as bad if it had progressed, as say, what happened recently in
Cleveland when they purged the remnants of their previous championship-caliber squad and started anew with their next generation of young players. And it
only took the Indians three years to do it, too!
The Reds don't seem to have a next generation. Sure, the last few years have introduced Adam Dunn, Austin Kearns, Wily Mo Pena,
Felipe Lopez, and now, hopefully, Edwin Encarnacion, but where's the starting pitching? Where's the bloody starting pitching!? How is it
possible for a team to go for so long without developing a great starting pitcher? Probably best not to answer that.
So despite having the best offense in the NL last year, the Reds failed due to their abysmal combination of pitching and fielding. Splendid! At least
Griffey won the Comeback Player of the Year award. Yawn.
So let's forget about the last five years and discuss the recent changes and then look forward to the upcoming year...
The Changes
The changes started on June 21, 2005, when the last-place Reds fired manager Dave Miley and pitching coach Don Gullett. Replacing them were
bench coach Jerry Narron and Minor League pitching coordinator Vern Ruhle (who sadly was recently diagnosed with cancer,
but will continue his coaching duties), and these two guided the Reds to 46-46 record for the remainder of the season. How much credit should be given to
these two for their .500 winning percentage is uncertain, but it's worth noting nonetheless.
This past December, general manager Dan O'Brien (no, not the former U.S. decathlete) signed Narron and Ruhle for the 2006 season, non-tendered
pitchers Ramon Ortiz and Joe Valentine, re-signed catcher Jason LaRue and super utility Ryan Freel, and signed pitcher Chris
Hammond.
He also made two trades, and I'll now remember December 8th as the day Lennon was shot (1980), the day Britain, Australia, and the United States declared war
on Japan (1941), the day of the official end of the USSR (1991), the Feast of the Immaculate Conception of Mary (date of conception unknown, let's say
approximately 22 B.C.), and when O'Brien traded first basemen and clubhouse leader Sean Casey for Pirates pitcher Dave Williams and, get
this, acquired rejected Yankee second basemen (and left fielder I suppose) Tony Womack in exchange for two Minor Leaguers.
Trading Casey is understandable given his expensive contract and lack of slugging while manning first base. A year or two too late, perhaps, but Williams
should at least be better than the departing Ortiz. But why he would acquire 35-year-old Womack, who peaked in 1998 with the Pirates and had a fluke season
in 2004 with the Cardinals, is still a mystery. What's worse is that Womack could possibly lead off and start at second base for the Reds in 2006.
In the new year, O'Brien re-signed infielder Rich Aurilia (perhaps realizing having Womack as the only option at second base isn't a good idea,
assuming you want Freel to remain your super utility player), signed pitcher Grant Balfour, and agreed to terms with Kearns and Aaron Harang,
avoiding arbitration with them.
Then early in 2006, Reds majority owner Carl Lindner stepped aside and handed off majority ownership to Robert Castellini, president of the Castellini Co., who bought about 70% of the reportedly $270-million value of the club. Castellini is another
Cincinnati native, keeping with Reds tradition to keep it local.
Castellini thankfully wasted no time in firing general manager Dan O'Brien, who had one year remaining on his three-year contract but had struggled to
improve the Reds since the start of the off-season in 2003. And had traded for Tony Womack! O'Brien was quickly replaced by Twins assistant GM, Wayne
Krivsky.
Krivsky finished the off-season transactions by signing pitcher Rick White, first basemen Scott Hatteberg, outfielders Timo Perez,
Quinton McCracken, and Tuffy Rhodes (all three signed to Minor League contracts), and agreed to terms with Reds left fielder (and soon-to-be
starting first basemen) Adam Dunn on a two-year, $18.5 million contract (which runs through his final two arbitration years) with a $13 million club option
for 2008 (which would delay his free agency by one season).
Essentially O'Brien and Krivsky signed a handful of mediocre free agents, re-signed everyone important, traded Casey for Williams, and acquired Womack to
compete for the starting position at second base. But they did not interfere with Encarnacion and Lopez on the left side of the infield and created a
starting spot for Pena in LF by moving Dunn to 1B. But, unfortunately, they didn't really improve the pitching staff or the fielding, both of which were
arguably the worst in MLB last year (and definitely were the worst when combined).
After these changes the past year, the Reds now have new leadership at all levels: the clubhouse (new leader still unknown, would think veteran and future
Hall of Famer, Ken Griffey Jr., would replace Casey; perhaps LaRue, who is the longest-tenured player), coaching, management, and majority ownership.
I'm looking forward to seeing if this makes any bit of difference.
The Regulars
Catcher - Jason LaRue and Javier Valentin
This two-headed monster led MLB in 2005 in team catcher OPS, narrowly edging out Victor Martinez and Josh Bard of the Indians for the honor. Both reached
base well against both LHP and RHP (and only Valentin struggled with his slugging against LHP in just 38 AB), and both hit better on the road despite The
Great American Ballpark being pegged as a hitter's park in 2005.
Also, LaRue is very good defensively, especially his throwing, and Valentin can hold his own as well, according to Diamond Mind Baseball's ratings.
So what's not to like about the catching for the Reds in 2006? Most likely their age and overall past performance. LaRue is 32 this year and probably
entering his decline phase. 2005 was also his first season with an OPS above .800. He's not expected to repeat the performance (this is based solely on
data with no inside information or scouting). Valentin will be 30 and didn't post an OPS even above .700 until last year. So it's not surprising to see the
ZiPS projections below for LaRue (proj .766 OPS) and Valentin (proj. .788 OPS). Which is still good at the catcher position, so I have no complaints.
First Base - Adam Dunn
Dunn will be moving from left field to first base to replace Casey and, as mentioned earlier, allow Pena to play regularly in the outfield with Griffey and
Kearns. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Hatteberg receive some playing time at 1B, however, with Dunn playing in the outfield when Griffey needs rest or
when Griffey and/or Kearns make their annual trip to the disabled list.
In The 1998 Big Bad Baseball Annual: The Book Baseball Deserves, Gerry Myerson in the Seattle Mariners chapter introduces Baseball Is Not A Contact
Sport, or BINACS, for short. BINACS is simply adding a batter's strikeout and walk totals. It's also two-thirds of the Three True Outcomes (TTO), which
also includes home runs. But let's leave out home runs since TTO is already popular. And instead of looking at BINACS as a counting stat, I want to first
look at career BINACS rate. Therefore, using 1500 career PA (so just over two full seasons) as the minimum to be included, here are the players with the
best BINACS rate:
Rank Name PA BB SO (BB+SO)/PA
1. Dave Nicholson 1661 219 573 0.477
2. Russell Branyan 1691 200 597 0.471
3. Lefty Grove 1579 105 593 0.442
4. Rob Deer 4512 575 1409 0.440
5. Adam Dunn 2783 462 733 0.429
5. Mark Bellhorn 2185 310 628 0.429
7. Red Faber 1550 169 479 0.418
8. Jim Thome 7281 1257 1762 0.415
9. Bo Jackson 2626 200 841 0.396
10. Mickey Tettleton 5745 949 1307 0.393
11. Brad Wilkerson 2690 377 656 0.284
12. Ruben Rivera 1818 185 510 0.382
12. Tom Seaver 1552 108 485 0.382
14. Mark McGwire 7660 1317 1596 0.380
15. Pat Burrell 3578 471 886 0.379
16. Gorman Thomas 5486 697 1339 0.371
16. Jay Buhner 5927 792 1406 0.371
I listed down to Buhner because he was the focal point in Myerson's article in the Seattle chapter, as Myerson pointed out that
Jay Buhner with 294
BINACS in 1997 had broken
Jimmy Wynn's record set in 1969 (290 BINACS).
The record has since been destroyed:
Year Name BB+SO
1998 Mark McGwire 317
2004 Adam Dunn 303
1999 Jim Thome 298
2002 Adam Dunn 298
2001 Jim Thome 296
1997 Jay Buhner 294
2003 Jim Thome 293
1969 Jimmy Wynn 290
2000 Jim Thome 289
2005 Adam Dunn 282
Wow, Dunn and
Jim Thome are yearly posting huge BINACS totals, but
Mark McGwire's HR-record-breaking season tops them all. I'll bet, however,
that if you adjust for league, Wynn might still come out on top. Or perhaps someone else. I'll leave that exercise for you, the reader, or maybe I'll
examine that next year in Dunn's commentary space.
Despite the high strikeout and walk totals, Dunn is still expected to post a minimum of .250/.375/.550 in 150+ games, and given that he's only 26 years old,
the Reds could enjoy this production at first base for the next six to eight years if they can keep him or decide not to trade him for some quick-fix
starting pitching.
Second Base - Tony Womack
Part of an e-mail I received last December from my friend, Mike:
I'm driving home after a too-long day at work, 9PM ballpark. So I hear on
ESPN Radio, "The NY Yankees today traded Tony Wo-"
At this point, I start saying - OUT LOUD - "Not the Reds, Not the Reds,
Not the Reds".
Then I hear, "to the Cincinnati Reds"... At this point, I swear on all
that is good and holy that I nearly yanked the steering wheel right
into a ditch. I mean, TONY WOMACK? What the [firetruck] is going on here?
If Tony Womack is in the starting lineup for the Opening Day 2006
Reds, I will sit outside GABP and protest. Hopefully I'll get to hear
Marty badmouth him on the radio.
Third Base - Edwin Encarnacion
Encarnacion is projected to be about four or five wins above replacement, but he could just as easily be the next Brandon Larson. Although Larson
didn't have quite the track record that Edwin has.
Given there is no expectation for the Reds to be competitive in the NL (at least from where I'm sitting), Encarnacion should be allowed to play through any
struggles he may have. The Brewers did this last year with J.J. Hardy, and he responded with a considerably improved second-half performance. Not that this
strategy works every time, and of course Encarnacion could also work out his problems in Triple-A, but the Reds have nothing to lose here. So I hope to see
Encarnacion manning the hot corner all season regardless of his performance. Let the kids play!
Shortstop - Felipe Lopez
I'm not impressed yet, as his 2005 season could very well be a fluke or perhaps his peak. I'll feel more comfortable if in 2006 he can repeat or nearly
match his 2005 performance, but he had a significant jump in batting average in 2005 from past seasons and thus the ZiPS projection of only .273/.338/.444.
It's very unlikely Lopez will follow Dave Concepcion and Barry Larkin as long-lasting incredible SS for the Reds. That's a high standard, of
course, and Lopez should at least be a valuable shortstop for several years. But the Reds should be keeping an eye out sooner than later for an eventual
replacement.
At the least, of the players involved in the December 15, 2002 four-team trade (so Erubiel Durazo, Elmer Dessens, Jason Arnold and
Lopez), Lopez is the player I'd most like to have on my team right now.
Left Field - Wily Mo Pena
Pena's pathetic OBP is tolerable if he continues to maintain a slugging percentage near .500 or higher. Against RHP last year, he only batted
.234/.282/.468, which still is excellent power against them, but a sub-.300 OBP is concerning. He probably doesn't want to become part of a platoon at the
age of 24, but given the lack of depth by the Reds, he doesn't need to worry about that.
He's a liability in the OF except for his arm, which means his power at the plate is all that he has right now. If he can maintain it, he should receive
more respect from pitchers, and his walk rate might increase if he can accept keeping his bat on his shoulder when he doesn't have a good pitch to hit.
He has yet to play a full season with the Reds, so as with Encarnacion at 3B, the Reds should simply keep Pena out there all season to see what he can do.
Center Field - Ken Griffey Jr.
For the 2005 season, Diamond Mind baseball handed out only four poor range ratings in CF: David Newhan, Xavier Nady, Jason Lane, and
Griffey.
Using David Pinto's Probabilistic Model of Range for CF in 2005, Griffey ranked last. I
should also point out that Pinto's Teams Run Saved calculations have the Reds as dead last
in fielding for 2005.
Griffey was given a Lead Glove by David Gassko last October for his defense in CF
in 2005.
That's three different fielding rating evaluations all illustrating that Griffey has become a terrible defender in CF. It's time the Reds moved him. To
accomplish this, they should quietly discuss the matter with Griffey and have him publicly announce that due to his age and to prevent further injury, he
wants to move to LF or 1B. The Reds can then happily oblige, moving Kearns or Pena to CF.
Right Field - Austin Kearns
Kearns is an all-around great player (both hitting and fielding) who frustratingly cannot stay healthy, either due to bad luck, the fragileness of his body,
or both. For the Reds to overcome their inevitable pitching disaster, they need Kearns, among others, to stay healthy and to be productive.
Staring at this lineup: Freel, Dunn, Pena, Griffey, Kearns, Lopez, Encarnacion, and LaRue/Valentin—I see perhaps yet again the best offense in the NL.
Hatteberg and Womack receiving ample amount of playing time would hurt the runs scored total, and, unfortunately, with this powerful lineup includes their
collective fielding ineptitude.
Kearns, however, is pretty damn good out there in RF.
The Bench - Ryan Freel, Rich Aurilia, Scott Hatteberg, and Chris Denorfia
Assuming the Reds carry 12 pitchers and the nine guys listed above (two catchers, one at each of the other positions), that leaves four remaining bench
spots.
Freel will most likely remain as the super utility player, able to play all but catcher (he probably won't appear at 1B either nor SS if Lopez remains
healthy and productive). This is important considering the fragileness of Griffey and Kearns as well as the current black hole at second base.
Aurilia can also play anywhere in the IF, and should probably be starting at second base. Denorfia is battling with Tuffy Rhodes (check out this article on the recent Nippon League star), Timo
Perez, Quinton McCracken, and others for the fourth outfield spot.
Hatteberg was signed to a one-year contract for $700,000 and isn't going anywhere. He'll probably serve as a PH and start at 1B if and when Dunn plays in
the OF. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the lineup when a DH is needed (Griffey should probably DH in the inter-league games in AL parks).
The Rotation
3rd starter - Aaron Harang - has right shoulder inflammation
4th starter - Brandon Claussen - surprisingly healthy
3rd starter - Eric Milton - currently battling right calf strain
4th starter - Dave Williams - did not play last September due to sore shoulder
5th starter - Paul Wilson - rehabilitating from shoulder surgery
Oh yeah, last season might actually have been the peak in pitching for this current group. I can easily see this year's pitching staff competing with
2004's as one of the worst of all time, especially if injuries require the Reds to use pitchers from their own depleted farm system.
What could happen is if the Reds are desperately in need of pitching, they could trade one of Kearns, Dunn, or Pena.
I realize the available free agent starting pitching was lacking in quality this past off-season, but why didn't the Reds put forth more of an effort to sign
at least one of them? How about Jeff Weaver, who finally signed with the Angels late in the off-season? Or Kevin Millwood, Jarrod
Washburn, or Esteban Loaiza?
Harang and Claussen are acceptable for the middle of the rotation, and Williams is perfectly average (although with limited PT the last few years). And I
suppose the Reds feel obligated to keep Milton in the rotation, but given Wilson is not guaranteed to have fully recovered from his shoulder surgery by the
start of the season, the Reds should have signed another pitcher.
The Relief
Kent Mercker, David Weathers, Chris Hammond, and Rick White are most likely starting the season in the bullpen, simply because
they're veterans. Ryan Wagner should be there as well.
That leaves Jason Standridge, Mike Burns, Todd Coffey, Matt Belisle, and Brian Shackelford battling for the remaining
spots. So I've read.
Offseason-signed Grant Balfour could also compete for a bullpen spot when he returns from surgery on his rotator cuff and labrum, but he's probably
not going to be able to contribute until next season given the normal recovery time from such a surgery (when did I become a medical doctor?).
The Prospects
Sickels List: Homer Bailey, Travis Wood, Jay Bruce, B.J. Szymanski, Phil
Dumatrait, Chris Denorfia, Tyler Pelland, Joey Votto, Justin Germano, and Zach Ward are his top ten, with not one higher than a B+ rating.
Bailey, of course, is being touted as the future ace for the Reds, which most likely means years of hardship and injury for the young man. The 2005 draft
produced Wood and Bruce from the first two rounds, and these two are a few years away from joining the parent club. Bruce and Bailey were the only Reds in
Baseball America's 2006 Top 100 Prospects list.
Various other sources maintain the Reds organization as one of the worst farm systems in baseball. As a team in a small market, the farm system is one area
where the Reds need to excel if they want to compete. They simply don't have the means or the attractiveness to sign top free agents.
Therefore, improving the farm should be GM Krivsky's number one priority, even above trying to compete in 2006 or 2007. This doesn't involve simply drafting
more intelligently, but revamping the entire Minor League system, because their current strategy, training, instruction, etc. clearly are not working.
Don't worry, Wayne, I can wait, and I hope Castellini can too.
The Outlook
SG over at the Replacement Level Yankees Weblog ran 100 trials of the
2006 season using the Diamond Mind Baseball simulator and the first build of the 2006 ZiPS. The Reds averaged 69 wins and a last place finish in the NL
Central and only made the post-season one time out of the 100. Also on average, they allowed the most runs of any team in MLB.
I'll be shocked if the real-life 2006 season outcome is any better.
The Conclusion (with apologies to Pulp and their incredible song, Common People)
She came from the Bronx with a thirst for baseball,
she studied clippings at the famous Hall,
that's where I ...
caught her eye.
She told me that her team was loaded,
I said, "In that case I'll have your crappy second baseman."
She said, "Fine."
and then in thirty seconds time she said,
"I want to root like regular fans,
I want to do whatever regular fans do,
I want to cheer with regular fans,
I want to cheer with regular fans,
like you."
Well what else could I do -
I said, "I'll ... I'll see what I can do."
I took her to the Great American Ballpark,
I don't know why but I had to start it somewhere,
so it started ... there.
I said, "Pretend your team has no money."
she just laughed and said,
"Oh you're so funny."
I said, "Yeah?
Well I can't see anyone else smiling in here.
Are you sure ... you want to root like regular fans,
you want to see whatever regular fans see,
you want to cheer with regular fans,
you want to cheer with regular fans like me."
But she didn't understand,
and she just smiled and held my hand.
Buy a seat near the fair pole
watch your team dig out of a hole.
Drink some beer and watch them suck,
exclaim they never have any luck.
But still you'll never get it right,
cause when you're sitting there all night,
watching fielders boot the ball,
if you root for the Yanks you could stop it all, yeah.
You'll never live like regular fans,
you'll never do whatever regular fans do,
you'll never curse like regular fans,
you'll never watch your team slide out of view,
and have a true reason to scream and to boo,
because there's nothing else to do.
Sing along with the regular fans,
sing along and it might just get you through,
laugh along with the regular fans,
laugh along even though they're laughing at you,
and the stupid things that you do.
Because you think that this team is cool.
Like a dog lying in a corner,
they will bite you and never warn you.
Look out ...
they'll tear your insides out.
'Cause everybody hates a winner,
especially one ... who thinks
it's all such a laugh
yeah ... and the nacho cheese stain
will come out in the bath.
You will never understand
how it feels to root for your team
with no meaning or control
and with nowhere left to go.
You are amazed that they exist,
and they burn so bright
whilst you can only wonder why.
Buy a seat near the fair pole
watch your team dig out of a hole.
Drink some beer and watch them suck,
exclaim they never have any luck.
But still you'll never get it right,
cause when you're sitting there all night,
watching ... fielders boot the ball,
if you root for the Yanks you could stop it all, yeah.
You'll never live like regular fans,
you'll never do whatever regular fans do,
you'll never curse like regular fans,
you'll never watch your team slide out of view,
and have a true reason to scream and to boo,
because there's nothing else to do.
I want to root with regular fans like you.....
I want to root with regular fans like you.....
I want to root with regular fans like you.....
I want to root with regular fans like you.....
2006 ZiPS Projections - Cincinnati Reds
Name P G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
Dunn* 1b 157 548 105 139 31 1 45 110 114 174 5 2 .254 .388 .560
Griffey* cf 108 403 65 113 24 0 28 78 48 80 0 1 .280 .359 .548
Kearns rf 122 431 70 111 29 2 21 72 55 118 2 1 .258 .349 .480
Pena cf 107 335 47 87 14 0 26 66 23 114 3 2 .260 .310 .534
Valentin# c 74 204 27 53 10 0 10 34 23 36 0 0 .260 .332 .456
Lopez# ss 146 556 87 152 30 4 19 75 55 109 10 7 .273 .338 .444
Encarnacion 3b 140 485 67 127 31 0 20 73 44 108 11 5 .262 .327 .449
LaRue c 113 374 42 92 25 1 14 54 34 105 1 1 .246 .336 .430
Freel 2b 116 415 65 112 20 4 4 33 55 65 32 11 .270 .364 .366
Cruz* lf 96 155 21 38 10 0 5 23 18 44 0 0 .245 .330 .406
Abad* 1b 123 415 55 107 25 1 11 58 42 64 2 3 .258 .330 .402
Aurilia ss 120 432 54 113 23 1 11 55 35 72 1 1 .262 .317 .396
Denorfia cf 148 512 76 131 21 4 13 57 53 110 7 6 .256 .327 .389
Smitherman lf 134 456 52 109 31 1 12 55 45 117 5 2 .239 .313 .390
Hatteberg* 1b 139 491 57 121 22 0 11 59 60 49 0 1 .246 .332 .358
Snyder 3b 130 491 66 114 28 1 21 74 33 119 1 1 .232 .287 .422
Gutierrez 1b 117 433 50 105 25 2 12 54 24 63 0 0 .242 .297 .393
Menechino 2b 81 235 32 53 10 1 5 25 35 52 0 2 .226 .336 .340
Votto* 1b 131 451 59 106 18 1 13 56 46 128 6 3 .235 .308 .366
Olmedo# 2b 106 317 38 84 12 2 3 26 23 58 4 3 .265 .314 .344
Moran cf 104 395 60 106 11 4 1 28 17 81 27 12 .268 .311 .324
Stratton lf 87 290 38 59 11 1 17 46 18 139 3 2 .203 .256 .424
Bergolla 2b 118 442 64 113 20 2 3 35 21 59 21 10 .256 .293 .330
Holbert 2b 106 328 43 80 16 2 4 29 20 62 16 14 .244 .299 .341
McCracken# rf 113 215 23 51 8 2 1 15 20 30 4 3 .237 .300 .307
Perez* cf 104 282 28 69 14 0 3 29 17 27 3 4 .245 .288 .326
Womack* 2b 127 436 55 107 14 2 2 34 24 55 19 6 .245 .288 .300
Wise* cf 105 341 37 76 11 4 7 37 18 71 11 5 .223 .268 .340
Wathan# ss 102 338 40 79 16 2 4 32 20 63 11 7 .234 .278 .328
Machado# ss 111 391 62 71 14 3 4 30 72 107 12 7 .182 .313 .263
Sardinha c 87 298 29 64 13 0 7 30 16 80 1 0 .215 .262 .329
Perez c 101 340 33 73 9 0 4 27 14 82 4 1 .215 .256 .276
Name W L ERA G GS INN H ER HR BB K
Coffey 3 3 4.13 59 0 72.0 80 33 6 13 47
Harang 12 9 4.21 29 29 184.0 190 86 21 48 140
Phelps* 2 1 4.41 30 5 49.0 49 24 5 20 34
Hammond* 3 3 4.42 53 0 57.0 60 28 7 14 36
Weathers 5 6 4.56 72 1 81.0 80 41 9 34 63
Burns 3 4 4.71 54 0 63.0 64 33 10 18 50
Belisle 7 8 4.73 40 19 135.0 145 71 16 47 92
Mercker* 2 2 4.74 74 0 57.0 55 30 7 26 44
Kelly 7 8 4.77 23 23 134.0 145 71 14 49 84
Wagner 2 3 4.81 52 0 58.0 62 31 5 25 48
Claussen* 9 12 4.85 28 28 156.0 161 84 21 61 123
Balfour 2 2 4.89 31 0 35.0 30 19 6 19 38
Kozlowski* 5 7 4.91 24 24 132.0 147 72 16 44 83
Shackelford* 4 4 4.94 60 0 62.0 62 34 6 32 44
White 3 6 4.96 65 0 78.0 86 43 9 29 44
Ramirez 7 9 5.01 28 24 151.0 181 84 24 29 83
Simpson 3 4 5.01 57 0 70.0 63 39 8 43 72
Germano 8 11 5.02 29 28 165.0 185 92 29 40 124
Standridge 6 7 5.12 36 16 116.0 128 66 13 52 70
Hall 6 8 5.16 27 27 157.0 174 90 19 63 106
Nelson 4 6 5.20 32 10 90.0 96 52 15 33 70
Gosling* 5 9 5.22 30 24 138.0 149 80 19 57 89
Hudson 7 12 5.22 24 22 119.0 116 69 19 61 96
Wilson 6 9 5.22 25 25 150.0 171 87 22 51 89
Bong* 6 9 5.34 28 16 91.0 97 54 16 37 67
Robbins 4 5 5.40 45 1 65.0 71 39 7 34 38
Nannini 6 9 5.44 31 20 134.0 144 81 27 47 88
Williams* 6 11 5.50 26 25 131.0 138 80 21 61 96
Milton* 7 14 5.55 33 33 188.0 213 116 38 59 132
Journell 2 5 5.77 42 3 64.0 65 41 8 43 58
Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance.
Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors -
many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2006.
ZiPS is projecting equivalent production - a .240 ZiPS projection may end up
being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play
is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting
the future.
Damon Rutherford
Posted: March 19, 2006 at 08:42 PM |
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Larry Bowa is still battling the whiplash.
Btw, I was born on December 8th
Yes, it's picking the lesser of two evils. I would prefer Griffey in LF, Kearns in CF, and Pena in RF. But if Kearns is injured or for some reason refuses to budge from RF, Pena would at least be better than Griffey, even though he still wouldn't be very good out there in CF. That's all I'm saying.
As obviously terrible as the Red outfield defense has been, I think people are still underrating how much the defense/park HR tendency has killed the pitchers. This season, the entire projected rotation members have career G/F ratios lower than league average, with 3 of the starters below 1.
Don't count on it. Womack will likely bust his *** down the line on every weak groundball. That doesn't excuse a 5-something OPS, but don't count on Marty as an ally.
That's pretty mind-boggling.
Can any Reds fans shed any light on how it is LaRue can be so good and so awful at the same time?
That was the year LaRue had 20 PB.
Not sure, though, how LaRue's PB rate for his career compares to others.
Well, it's not Geno Petralli-catching-Charlie Hough-bad, but it's pretty brutal.
Let's see if I can get the pre tag to work. Here's LaRue's PB numbers compared to a handful of active catchers picked largely off the top of my head. Piazza and Vic Martinez are intentionally listed because of their less-than-stellar defensive abilities.
Player Games PB PB/Game
LaRue 617 65 0.10535
Piazza 1530 95 0.06209
Javy Lopez 1313 93 0.07083
Victor Martinez 323 16 0.04954
Pierzynski 662 28 0.04230
Lieberthal 1079 64 0.05931
Jason Phillips 221 7 0.03167
Ramon Hernandez 796 40 0.05025
Barrett 651 48 0.07373
LoDuca 675 39 0.05778</pre>
So, anyway, his PB rate is pretty awful - beyond the point where catching 50 innings of knuckleballs would have much to do with it.
Even if you take 2002 completely out of the numbers, he's still allowing 0.08876 PB/game over the course of his career. That'd still be by far the worst rate of anyone I listed.
I think he has problems catching the ball. I watch as many of their games as possible on TV, and a couple of years ago I counted 10 straight plays at the plate where the guy would have been out if LaRue had only caught the ball and tagged him, but dropped it every time.
But I have a nit to pick. You brought up 4 FA pitchers the Reds should have made a run at:
Jeff Weaver: got 1 yr/$8.4M, and was second only to Milton in HR allowed last year (and he pitched in Chavez Ravine)
Kevin Millwood: 5/(gulp!)$60M.
Estiban Loaiza: 3/$21M for a league-average pitcher.
Jarrod Washburn: 4/$37.5M
Of the four, only Washburn makes any sense, considering the cost. And that's if 2005 is his true talent level, and not '03-04.
None of these guys could add 15 wins; 2 of them couldn't. If you accept the Reds' talent level for this year, I think the Reds did the right thing by standing pat - suck it up for another year, see if Harang and Claussen are for real, hope that there will be better pitchers to pick from next year.
Very well done, Greg. I especially like the Pulp.
I think it's rare for any pitcher to add 15 wins (150 VORP) to a team.
If you accept the Reds' talent level for this year, I think the Reds did the right thing by standing pat - suck it up for another year, see if Harang and Claussen are for real, hope that there will be better pitchers to pick from next year.
I disagree simply because their time is limited with regards to this league-leading offense. And Ken Griffey Jr. -- he probably wants the Reds to do whatever it takes to make the post-season this year and next (which I would hope includes moving him away from CF!).
The Reds now have four decent, hopefully healthy and league-average pitchers with Claussen, Harang, Williams, and Arroyo. Their best trick will be to keep Milton out of the starting lineup. Then they could possibly compete for the Wild Card ifGriffey and Kearns stay healthy, Encarnacion and Lopez play well on the left side of the infield, Tony Womack and Scott Hatteberg don't receieve too many PA, their bullpen is effective and they somehow scrounge up another starting pitcher. Then I would give them a 10%-15% chance or so instead of 1%.
Lots of verbiage to say the obvious, "The Reds blow."
Nice try at suspense though. Good effort.
Later,
H3
You know as well as I do...
1. Milton will get some starts - probably all of them. Their only hope (other than a DFA) is he has a hot start, then trade him. Otherwise, he stays an albatross thru '07.
2. Milton was a league-average, fly-ball prone pitcher before moving to GAB. So was Ortiz. I hope Williams and Arroyo fare better, but I don't count on it.
3. This move necessitates Hatteberg and Womack getting too many PA, which severely damages the league-leading offense.
4. Keeping Pena would have given them a big bat in a couple of years, when the pitching finally is good enough to keep them in contention.
You state in the article that you would be "shocked" if the Reds won more than 69 wins; you also wondered why they didn't pursue any of the big FA pitchers. Which lead to the following exchange:
None of these guys could add 15 wins
I think it's rare for any pitcher to add 15 wins (150 VORP) to a team.
Which was my point. Even at 84 wins, they wouldn't make the playoffs. If 69 wins was the threshold before, I think it'll be 65 now. They were going to score fewer runs this year anyway; now, as the dominoes fall, it becomes apparent they're going to score alot fewer.
Just to pick up a league-average pitcher.
I wanted to submit something similar to that statement to Szymborski, but I didn't think he'd accept it. Thus my ramblings.
2. Milton was a league-average, fly-ball prone pitcher before moving to GAB. So was Ortiz. I hope Williams and Arroyo fare better, but I don't count on it.
True, but he was injured in 2003 and gave up 43 home runs (23 on the road surprisingly) in 2004 with the Phillies (and their hitter's park) before coming to Cincinnati. The Reds should have realized that one, Milton gives up a lot of HRs, and two, the GABP is a home run hitting park.
Which was my point. Even at 84 wins, they wouldn't make the playoffs. If 69 wins was the threshold before, I think it'll be 65 now. They were going to score fewer runs this year anyway; now, as the dominoes fall, it becomes apparent they're going to score alot fewer.
Ah, good point on your point. I don't think they're going to score a lot fewer runs, especially if Encarnacion and Kearns can contribute all season.
But you're ultimately correct. Adding one expensive big FA pitcher wouldn't have jumped them into the playoff picture, as they'd still have the lousy fielding behind him.
Maybe the fielding won't be so lousy (Griffey excluded of course) if they have Freel and Kearns to the right and left of Griffey, Womack at 2B (ack!), and Dunn at 1B? Of course with Freel in LF and Womack at 2B, you're probably right about them scoring a lot fewer runs.
Damn.
FWIW, I've run a more comprehensive set of Diamond Mind sims with DMB, PECOTA, and ZiPS, which I've posted here. They have Cincy averaging 72 wins, but this was before the Arroyo trade, which looks like it upgrades them by 2-3 wins in 100 subsequent runs that I did.
Thanks to all for the kind words on the article.
And I unfortunately haven't had the pleasure of listening to Shatner's version of Common People.
Won't he get tired?
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