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Tuesday, March 18, 2003

Cleveland Indians

All change!

The Cleveland Indians, after being the best team in the AL Central since the division’s first year, fell to third place in 2002. The Indians front office, in some way, chose to do this, as the team that won the AL Central in 2001 was one of the oldest in baseball. The Indians thought the team it had could win no more, and either traded or did not sign older players like Roberto Alomar and Juan Gonzalez. During 2002, the Indians traded pitcher Bartolo Colon to Montreal and after the season, they let first baseman Jim Thome go as a free agent.

The Indians now have a good core of young players such as Brandon Phillips, Milton Bradley, Victor Martinez and C.C. Sabathia. However, the Indians also have a group of older players playing in key roles, mostly due to contract reasons. If the young guys come along faster than one would think they would and push the old guys aside, the Indians could win the AL Central. This is not so much because the Indians would be very good, but because neither of the two teams we think can win, Chicago and Minnesota, would not be very good.

What I think is the most likely way 2003 will happen for the Indians is the team will play poorly early in the year. It will be trying out young players, and some of them may not be as good as the Indians are hoping they will be. This is a team that lacks the top slugger and the pitching ace it had a year ago, so it will need some time to find players to fill their spots. In June, July and August, the Indians will play well, winning more games than they lose. Some young player, I think it will be Milton Bradley if he stays healthy and out of trouble, could play like a superstar in this time and carry the team.

The Indians do not look like they are trying to rush the young players. As the great Indians team of the 1990s took a few years to come together, the Indians’s front office is willing to wait and reap the rewards of patience. Having said that, there are a few men who may well not contribute anything, like Brian Anderson and Mark Wohlers. A good test for new manager Eric Wedge is how long he keeps playing these men who are not playing well. If he asks Brian Anderson to pitch every fifth day with a 5.43 ERA in August, the Indians will win with a different manager.

(For each player, I have listed his position, his batting/pitching hand, his age as of 1 July 2003, and his name.)

Lineup

The Indians lineup is a bunch of young guys and a bunch of old guys who are hurt often. Gutierrez, Lawton, Bradley and Burks could well have a full year on the DL all together.

c/s/25 Josh Bard

He hit .297 for Buffalo last year, but his walk rate became worse than it was in 2001. He can hit some, but Victor Martinez will push him aside.

1b/l/26 Travis Hafner (traded from Rangers for Einar Diaz)

He pounded the hell out of the ball in Oklahoma last year. He has come to the majors late, but is definitely a hitter. Big SOB. His wrist was hurt in 2001, and his 2002 year is a better picture of his skill. I think his lack of speed and fielding skill will hurt him before his career becomes too long, but he can hit now. He has moved up slowly in the minors, but has hit always, save his first year in Class A, Savannah 1998. This leads me to wonder if he has pissed someone off, somewhere. He will not outhit Jim Thome this year, and may never do so, but will be a good hitter.

2b/r/22 Brandon Phillips

A former Expo, Phillips came to Cleveland in the Bartolo Colon trade. He played shortstop in the minors. The Indians still think Omar Vizquel is a great shortstop, so Phillips is playing second base. Since Vizquel is no longer a great shortstop, the Indians are hurting Phillips' career. He’s error-prone, but the scouts like his range. He has lost walks as he has aged, and his numbers are only ok outside of AA. He can play, but is unlikely to become a star.

3b/r/29 Casey Blake

In a surprise spring move, he now looks to be the starter. He can outplay John McDonald, which means nothing. He has hit over .300 at AAA the last two years but he played in Edmonton, where everyone hits .300. Blake is no longer of prospect age and is unlike to become any better. Third base will be a soft spot for the Indians in 2003, as they have many men for the job, and none of them can play.

ss/s/36 Omar Vizquel

Former Gold Glover, has lost a ton of range in the last few years. Lifted weights before the 2002 season. Fast start, faded badly: .216/.275/.273 in August and September. He thinks he is still a great shortstop, an idea that’s past its time, and spoke out after he did not win the Gold Glove last year. Vizquel is a middle-age man who does not understand that he has lost a great deal of the skills he once possessed. He will stay through 2004 and will depart not a minute to soon.

lf/l/31 Matt Lawton

Lawton hurt his shoulder diving for a ball on April 19 and had surgery on September 17 for a torn labrum and rotator cuff. The doctor said shoulder was so damaged that it would have hurt Lawton to run. Nickname is "Law," which has always struck me as bland. I hear his teammates call him "Law" in interviews, and it’s enough to make you even want Chris Berman to make a better nickname. Matt "I fought the" Lawton?

cf/s/23 Milton Bradley

Bradley spent time on the DL from May 2 to June 4 with broken orbital bone around his left eye. Then, he was on the DL again from August 12 to 30 when he had an emergency appendectomy. To top this off, he missed seven of the last eight games of the year with a strained muscle in his left side. He should walk more this year, as he walked often in the minors. He has had some trouble in the game of life, and his rap sheet is long:

• Thrown out of the Maryland Fall League in 1998 for a run-in with an umpire.

• Suspended for 7 games in April 1999 after spitting gum at an umpire.

• Rushed to the emergency room for being "severely intoxicated" in April 2002 after making a ruckus in a restaurant and refusing to leave.

He has skills and makes me think of a switch-hitting Lenny Dykstra with a touch of Carl Everett. The Indians are waiting for the skill to come out from the sea of pain and bad behavior. Come on you raver, you seer of visions. Come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!

rf/l/27 Karim Garcia (re-signed)

The Indians released him during spring training in 2002. The Yankees released him in July, and the Indians resigned him. He hits lefties unusually well for a left-handed hitter. He is 27 and has a job, so he may have a big year.

dh/r/38 Ellis Burks

He has bad knees and to top that off, he had surgery on his left shoulder in November. I never thought he would last this long when he came up with Boston in 1987, but he has become a guy like John Kruk, a guy who knows how to hit, and no matter what the rest of his skills are not, he can hit. His middle name is Rena; I always thought that was a girl's name.

Rotation

One thing I see is that the Indians have many good young arms and will send Jason Bere and Brian Anderson to the mound every fifth day. I would not want to rush these guys either, but Brian Anderson?

sp/l/22 CC Sabathia

"Pick up that guitar and talk to me." Terry Mulholland worked with him on holding runners; Terry Mulholland is the master of holding runners. He’s a big fat slob, but he was in better shape late in the year. Watch the scale with him.

sp/r/32 Jason Bere (free agent, Cubs)

He had a BABIP of .314 last year and a SO/Win ratio of 65/1, so he'll pitch better. He’s a flyballer, and lefties kill him. He pitches poorly in the stretch, so he cannot relieve, but he only throws 86 pitches a start. I would rather be in his shoes than in my shoes, making all the bucks, but I'd rather be in Roger Clemens's shoes, or Curt Schilling's shoes than in his. He had a groin strain in the second half of 2002.

sp/l/32 Brian Anderson (free agent, Diamondbacks)

Brenly dropped him from the Arizona rotation after his April 13 start. Anderson stayed in bullpen until early May, when Brenly put him back in the rotation when Todd Stottlemyre was hurt. A line drive broke his foot on September 21. Going 6-11 with Arizona is not good. Aaron Gleeman thinks he has had a good career for someone who does not strike out many men, which I think is like Vladimir Putin being a pretty nice man for someone who is killing Chechens.

sp/r/25 Ricardo Rodiguez

He came from the Dodgers. Scouts say he has bad mechanics, but I have yet to see him pitch, and even were I to do so, all I know about major league pitching is that I cannot hit it. He does not strike out as many men as Cliff Lee, but he does not give up as many home runs as Lee does either.

sp/r/24 Cliff Lee

He had a strained oblique, whatever the hell that is. Came from the Expos in the Colon deal. He has struck out men everywhere he has pitched, and has given up home runs in some of the nicest places.

Bench

of/l/24 Alex Escobar

He missed all of 2002 with a hurt knee. He came to the Indians in the Alomar trade, and thus has never played an inning for them. When healthy, he is a strikeout king with speed and some power. I do not think he will have a high batting average in the major leagues.

of/r/31 Shane Spencer (former Yankee)

He sprained his wrist in June, and pulled his hamstring in August. He’s useful as a platoon player only since he cannot hit right-handed pitchers.

if/r/33 Ricky Gutierrez

He is a natural shortstop but played second base in 2002. He hurt his neck in April but waited until August to tell the Indians. That does not strike me as the best way to make your team go out of its way for you. He hits well for a backup infielder when healthy, but he’s usually stretched for a regular, unless it’s as a shortstop.

if/r/28 John McDonald

He is five days older than I am. Scouts think he is a good fielder. I would hope he is, since he hit .244 in AAA last year with no power or walks. If he is a fielding wizard, he can be the new Rafael Belliard.

if/l/33 Bill Selby

Has spent most of the last seven years in AAA, but has also played some in AA, the big leagues and Japan. He has hit for some power in the high minors, so he could be a short-term answer to Indians’ third base question. He would be a better backup. His career .235/.291/.383 numbers are about how good he is.

of/l/26 Ben Broussard (midseason trade for Russ Branyan, from Cincinnati)

Swapped for Russ Branyan. Like Branyan, he has power and strikeouts. He also walked often in the minors, so he could become the new Rob Deer.

c/s/24 Victor Martinez

Hit well last year but doesn’t possess much of an arm behind the plate. In spite of what folks think, there are two key skills for catchers, being able to catch, and throwing out base stealers. Scouts like Martinez's other fielding skills, but they pale next to throwing out base stealers. However, if you can catch and you can hit, you can be Jorge Posada. He was the MVP of the Eastern League last year, and the MVP of the Carolina League in 2001. He should be the Opening Day starter but the Indians have it made it clear that Josh Bard is the overwhelming favorite for that honor.

c/s/29 AJ Hinch (free agent, from Kansas City)

Career 28% thrower. He will eventually lose playing time to Victor Martinez. He hurt his hand last July, but played through it.

of/s/23 Coco Crisp

Do you remember the old Eddie Murphy routine, where he names his relatives after cereals? Anyhow, Crisp came to the majors last year with 100 games above Class A. I’d say he needs more seasoning, but even I put no seasoning on cereal.

Bullpen

I do not see a LOOGY. LOOGYs are worthless, but I think the Indians will see the lack of a LOOGY as a flaw. If the Indians waste one of their young players on the LOOGY beast, it does not bode well for the future.

cl/r/25 Danys Baez

Baez began the year as a starter, became a closer on August 27. In his career, he has gone .222/.307/.371 against right-handed batters, .262/.358/.389 against left-handed batters.

rp/r/33 Mark Wohlers

He has a sore right elbow as of 9 March 2003. His career K/9 is 9.0, but was 5.8 in 2002. Forgive me for saying so, but I think the Indians are mad for making him the setup man. I look at him, and I hear Johnny Rotten singing, "Noooooo future .... nooooo future ..... noooooo future for youuuuuuuuu."

rp/r/26 David Riske

He had back and hamstring injuries in mid-summer last year. He’s a flyballer with control flaws and a BABIP of .328 in 2002. His numbers look bad, but I like pitchers who strike out 11 men a game. I think he'll become the setup man around midyear.

rp/l/40 Terry Mulholland

Came from the Dodgers in midyear. King of holding runners, but otherwise, I do not understand why he has a job. I know a farmer who looks after the farm. With water clear, he cares for all his harvest. I know a fireman who looks after the fire …

rp/r/36 Dave Burba

He had a one-year stint with Texas, but is now an Indian again. The Rangers let him go, and came back to the Indians on August 7. His strikeout rate has fallen and he gives up many home runs. I think he's pitching here because the Indians rotation is shallow, and I think he will enter the rotation when Anderson pitches himself out of it. I understand why you do not want to rush young pitchers, but having both Burba and Anderson around does not strike me as good. I do have a hunch he will come back some this year, for which I have nothing with which to back it up.

Young guys

There are more young players in the system, but these two men are close to the majors and do not yet have jobs.

sp/l/25 Brian Tallet

He has a short time in professional ball, three years. His strikeout rate was 6 a game in 2002, much lower than his rate in the low minors, and his walk numbers are but mean. I would not bet on a man whose strikeout rate fell as he rose in the minors, were I a betting man.

sp/r/23 Jason Davis

He has a live fastball, and will pitch at AAA. For all the praise, he has struck out only 6.5 men a game throughout his minor league career.

Manager

Eric Wedge

I do not know what kind of manager Wedge will be, and nor do you. I shall not guess as to how good a manager he will be, and a manager is much less important than the players. Wedge is from the planet Corellia and he is a friend of Admiral Ackbar. Thus, this article is a trap.

2003 ZiPS Projections - Click for info

PO Player       G  AB  R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB  SO SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG
C  Bard       110 401 44 108 29  1  8  57 25  56  0  0 .269 .312 .406
1B Hafner     118 404 70 119 24  1 20  68 66  92  1  2 .295 .394 .507
2B Phillips   139 521 84 141 39  2 17  58 34  84 13  6 .271 .315 .451
3B Gutierrez  116 421 62 120 18  1  9  54 36  55  3  2 .285 .341 .397
SS Vizquel    144 561 83 152 27  5  8  61 61  71 17  9 .271 .342 .380
LF Lawton     131 481 78 128 30  2 14  63 73  58 18  8 .266 .363 .424
CF Bradley    124 430 60 106 24  3  9  42 48  90 12  7 .247 .322 .379
RF Garcia     141 516 77 144 24  3 32  89 37 111  2  5 .279 .327 .523
DH Burks      124 446 82 135 25  1 27  83 48  98  3  2 .303 .370 .545
c  Martinez   127 436 69 131 34  0 16  63 43  64  2  2 .300 .363 .489
1b Broussard  133 439 75 113 28  1 21  63 58 108  4  2 .257 .344 .469
if McDonald   103 323 42  77 15  2  2  23 20  59  6  4 .238 .283 .316
of Crisp      136 517 72 143 23  3 10  45 42  74 24 13 .277 .331 .391
of Spencer     83 269 34  68 14  2  7  37 25  60  1  2 .253 .316 .398

PO Player       W  L  ERA  G GS  IP   H ER HR BB  SO
SP Sabathia    12 11 4.13 33 33 194 174 89 16 84 171
SP Anderson     6 10 5.32 32 26 164 195 97 32 32  79
SP Bere         8 11 5.08 28 28 156 155 88 26 66 132
SP Lee          5  8 4.93 21 20 104  95 57 20 44 111
SP Rodriguez    8 11 4.86 25 25 148 153 80 20 54 100
SP Tallet       8  9 4.50 28 26 150 148 75 19 51 115
RP Riske        2  2 3.68 58  0  66  49 27  6 33  84
RP Wohlers      3  3 4.36 57  0  64  63 31  6 25  47
RP Mulholland   3  7 6.19 45 11 112 144 77 24 33  46
RP Burba        9  8 4.58 33 26 165 162 84 17 69 127
CL Baez         9  8 4.06 44 19 142 125 64 11 63 129
ZiPS is not a playing time predictor and should not be added for team totals.
Charles Saeger Posted: March 18, 2003 at 12:00 AM | 13 comment(s)
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   1. Jon Koltz Posted: March 17, 2003 at 09:44 PM (#609631)
I'm very surprised at your appraisal of Brandon Phillips. It seems like everyone has been touting this kid as one of baseball's top prospects. I don't know enough about him either way - would you mind expanding a bit on what you wrote?

Good piece.
   2. Joe Dimino Posted: March 17, 2003 at 09:45 PM (#609650)
". . . he has had a good career for someone who does not strike out many men, which I think is like Vladimir Putin being a pretty nice man for someone who is killing Chechens."

That's hysterical. I actually laughed out loud.

I disagree on Davis, I really like him. Sure his K-rate isn't spectacular, but his walk rate (2.6/9) is pretty good and he only gave up 9 HR in 160 IP. I think he has a reasonable chance to be the
AL Rookie of the Year.

I agree that Martinez should be the starter if it were solely based on ability, he a better player than Bard, and the Posada comparison is excellent. But the Indians seem to know what they are doing these days, they may try to build Bard's trade value while keeping Martinez's arbitration clock from starting. Victor Martinez will be the starting catcher at Jacob's Field no later than April 2004, possibly as soon as July 2003.

The Bradley comment was very interesting, Lenny Dystra and Carl Everett all rolled into one is a nice comparison for those unfamiliar with him.

I really liked the humor, nice job Charlie.
   3. Matthew Rich Posted: March 17, 2003 at 09:45 PM (#609654)
Yeah I'm not usually one to criticize other people's writing because, you know, at least they're putting effort into it. But this "analysis" seemed pretty much devoid of thought. At least Mr. Saeger pointed out several times that he was writing simply what he thought, rather than making pronouncements about the state of the team. Which is good, because I think he was wrong in several areas.

First off, I think he has it completely backwards about the Indians playing poorly early on and then turning it on come midseason. I think you're much more likely to see an energetic, aggressive team in the opening months of the season that slowly fades through the summer as their lack of experience catches up to them. I fully expect them to be considered a surprise contender through the All-Star break, after which they will be forgotten as people focus on the likes of Oakland, Boston, and the ChiSox.

Second, basing his assessment of Wedge on how many starts Brian Anderson gets down the stretch is ridiculous. We all know Anderson is going to be run out there to take one for the team every fifth day come hell, high water, or a bum shoulder. He's got a good chance to lead the AL in losses and HR allowed and you know what? Who cares? I've had this argument with people before, but I'd rather Tallet and Lee spend another season (or half-season) honing their craft and building confidence in Buffalo rather than getting thrown to the wolves with the big league club. And Brian Anderson is a very popular player in Cleveland who was brought in no doubt to salve some of the hurt of Jim Thome leaving. So he'll be in the rotation all year because Shapiro says so, and for good reason.

On to the individual player evaluations. Mr. Saeger is the first person I've ever read be so negative about Brandon Phillips. I'm not saying he's wrong, because I myself think that the expectations that surround him (Barry Larkin is the comp I hear tossed about most frequently) are definitely too optimistic. However, the author is clearly not taking into account Phillips age and the small sample size when he points out that "his numbers are only ok outside of AA". Cripes, he was 21 years old at AAA and the majors over about 300 ABs. I'd say he did pretty well for himself. Time will tell whether he'll be a superstar or just have to settle for a regular, watered-down version of stardom, but I think there's no doubt he'll be better than Mr. Saeger thinks.

About Milton Bradley: When will we stop hearing about his on-field tantrums in the low minors? And since when does getting drunk in a restaurant go on your "rap sheet"? I think Bradley certainly has some personal issues, but having seen him up close this spring I can tell you he is playing his ass off. His defense has always been excellent, and though I believe his plate discipline in the big leagues will never reach the level it was at in the minors, there's no doubt in my mind he's due for a big power spike, probably this season. But rather than talking about these issues, Mr. Saeger simply spouts some incomprehensible nonsense about a "sea of pain" after saying he has a "touch of Carl Everett", by which I'm guessing he meant to take a shot at Bradley's mental state. This is analysis? Oh and one more thing: Bradley will be 25 next month, not 23.

I guess I could go on, but I'll settle for the lowlights: his player comment about Sabathia talks only about Terry Mulholland. Comparing Ben Broussard to Rob Deer is both completely wrong and extremely lazy. Alex Escobar bats from the right side. His comment about Coco Crisp talks only about Crisp's name.

Finally, the ridiculous Admiral Ackbar reference with respect to Eric Wedge simply made me angry. Wedge led last year's Buffalo Bisons, a not particularly talented team, to an 87-57 record. He's won everywhere he's managed, and he's the one who has lit a fire under Milton Bradley, CC, and the other young veterans on this team. I will say right now that he's a better manager than Charlie Manual could ever hope to be, and it ought to say something that Joel Skinner stuck around to work for Wedge after losing his job to him.

So I thank Mr. Saeger for his opinions, and ask that next time he keep them to himself.

   4. Stephen Posted: March 17, 2003 at 09:45 PM (#609659)
Come on guys, we should not be criticizing Charlie Saeger. It's the same thing as criticizing Neifi Perez for getting 500 ABs. It's not Neifi's fault that his managers use him in a role in which he sucks. Similarly, it's the Primer Authors that should be criticized for allowing Charlie to write two team previews. They should have found a job that Charlie could perform well, like fetching coffee for Gleeman.
   5. Oddibe McDowell Posted: March 17, 2003 at 09:45 PM (#609667)
This is complete garbage. Unless you are disabled mentally, in which case I apologize, and think you did a great job.
   6. Sam Hutcheson Posted: March 17, 2003 at 09:45 PM (#609680)
Hey Charlie. I thought it was funny.
   7. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder. Posted: March 17, 2003 at 09:45 PM (#609690)
To quote Randy Jackson, "Dawg, you got to try harder."
   8. Sam Hutcheson Posted: March 18, 2003 at 09:46 PM (#609706)
"Your brother's baseball website."

Anyone else remember that?
   9. Marc Posted: March 18, 2003 at 09:46 PM (#609739)
After looking at this lineup (Casey Blake!), I'm sorry, even if the Twins and White Sox are "not very good," in fact even if they "suck," this team cannot win diddly. An exciting team does not have to decide between Blake and Gutierrez for a spot on the bench much less for regular 3B.
   10. John Posted: March 18, 2003 at 09:46 PM (#609740)
He had a strained oblique, whatever the hell that is.<i>

Come on, at least make an effort. If you're going to pepper the team <i>preview
with last year's injury reports, at least make them accurate and complete, and not patently half-arsed.

This preview was marginally insightful. It's interesting to know that someone who studies baseball (if, possibly, not the Indians) closely thinks less of B. Phillips than most, but I'd like to see more back-up for that assessment. The comparisons for M. Bradley are useful; the comments for Sabathia, for example, add nothing.

Agree, mostly, with whoever said this preview is replacement level. That's about right. A freely available Primate with Internet access, a copy of BP 2003, and a few hours to spare could have churned this out, albeit without the admittedly humorous and clever references. Better than the Cubs piece, though.

The shame of it is that the Injuns are interesting enough to merit discussion in their own right; let's steer the discussion away from Charlie Saeger and towards the prospects of Shapiro's rebuilding effort...now.
   11. Anthony Giacalone Posted: March 19, 2003 at 09:46 PM (#609749)
I like the article, Charlie. Very funny.

BTW, Secret Admirer, I'll take you up on your wager. What do you say that you take your internet access and your copy of BP2003 and write up a better article on, say, the San Diego Padress for us all to read? You have a half an hour. Go!
   12. Matthew Rich Posted: March 19, 2003 at 09:47 PM (#609760)
I think this year will tell us a lot about Peralta. As Bo pointed out in his excellent series of posts to alt.sports.baseball.cleve-indians, Peralta's OPS+ was 86 before 6/4/02, and 134 afterward. His glove is solid but he's a little shorter and thicker than most SS, so I guess some scouts are thinking he'll end up too bulky to play there. I have absolutely no idea what to think. I no longer doubt his listed age, but I'm definitely still reserving judgment about his bat until he's spent a full year at AAA.

But who am I kidding? He's 20 years old for goodness sake. He could spend 3 more seasons in the minors and still be only 23 when he finally makes it with the big league club. I think Peralta is emblematic of this Indians organization and people's reaction to it in that we keep forgetting just how young all these guys are. It is NOT NORMAL for so many 20, 21, and 22 year olds to be in the running for major league jobs. Absolutely none of these guys would be hurt by an extra year or two of minor league experience. It's hard to be patient though.

Regarding Baez: I'm all for moving him to the bullpen. Usage patterns aside, there's no question that Baez's performance as a reliever (2.77 ERA, 2.26 K/BB in 61.2 innings) has been better than his performance as a starter (4.44 ERA, 1.61 K/BB in 154 innings). And considering the wealth of talent the Indians have to replace him in the rotation (R-Rod, Davis, Lee, Tallet, Guthrie) and the gaping holes created by the losses of Wickman and now Wohlers and the continuing ineffectiveness of Riske, Paronto, and Riggan; it looks to me like they've put him in a position that maximizes his value to the team, as well as allowing him to pad that save total and increase his perceived value should they ever decide to trade him. Smart move, IMO.
   13. Scott Posted: March 29, 2003 at 09:52 PM (#610106)
This is not so much because the Indians would be very good, but because neither of the two teams we think can win, Chicago and Minnesota, would not be very good.

This is one of the worst sentences ever written in the English language.

That's the problem with this place: way too many people of moderate intelligence doing their damnedest to convince themselves and the world that they're something more by picking the hell out of everything. I can't imagine how people wouldn't be embarrassed to post such inane ########, while all the while decrying someone else's "lack of insight."

“Berliner” (or should I just call you “Charlie”?): Very few of these team previews have motivated Primer readers to criticize the authors. It’s mainly that Charlie Saeger’s previews have been very shallow and poorly written. So I don’t know where you get that the criticisms of Charlie reflect a “problem with this place.”
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