MLB Draft Thread
The Rule 4 draft (AKA baseball’s amateur draft) will be held on Tuesday, June 6 and Wednesday, June 7.
MLB.com will be doing a live feed this year, beginning at noon on Tuesday. The entire first round will be announced live by MLB’s exec VP for baseball operations, Jimmie Lee Solomon, exclusively on MLB.com beginning just before 1. MLB.tv will be covering the first five rounds of the draft, and MLB Radio will have the entire draft. (IIRC, XM channel 175 had the whole thing last year, and will probably carry it again).
John Sickels and the regulars conducted their five-round mock draft over at Minor League Ball over the weekend.
First round.
Supplemental 1st round.
2nd round.
3rd round.
4th round.
5th round.
Some interesting choices in there.
BA’s Will Lingo speculated that KC may (again) be moving away from Andrew Miller for the #1 overall pick. The sticking point appears to be financial, of course:
Miller reportedly wants a major league contract, the price of which started at $6 million and may now be eight figures. At the same time, Kansas City doesn’t want to exceed the $4 million bonus it paid a year ago to No. 2 overall pick Alex Gordon, considered a superior talent to Miller.
I certainly wouldn’t want to pay more for Miller than Gordon.
Lingo also comments on a possible reason why some high-profile draft-and-follows (hello, Beato) didn’t sign:
MLB, which has established a system of recommended bonuses for every pick through the first 10 rounds, also provided bonus recommendations for significant draft-and-follows this year, sources said.
Those recommendations apparently played a big role in the Mets’ decision not to sign righthander Pedro Beato, and the Devil Rays’ decision not to sign righthander Bryan Morris. Both are potential first-round picks in this year’s draft.
BA has its complete list of confirmed draft-and-follow signings from the 2005 draft, along with fifth-year seniors who signed.
Mike Emeigh
Posted: June 05, 2006 at 09:33 AM |
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What is "draft and follow"?
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261615.html
Lincecum slides to 15 (!?). Bard, who was NASTY vs a good lineup Sun night, not in top 15
Hes gone from 5th-10th rounder to possible sandwhich round pick based on private workouts
Are the pitchers available better than the ones last year, or 2 years ago? Or is it just because the position players are so weak?
Longoria appears to be a similar hitter to his former teammate Tulowitzki, but doesn't have nearly the same defensive potential.
Last year's high school hitters featured several 5 tool type players - Upton, Maybin, McCutcheon, Bruce. The high school hitters this year (from reading the reports in BA's top 200 draft prospects) who are projected in the first round don't seem very athletic, just a bunch of future 1B/DH, at best maybe some will stick at 3rd or corner OF.
Much more the latter, particularly up the middle (as you note).
the NBA draft takes place at Madison Square Garden,
the NHL draft will take place in GM Place in Vancouver.
And the MLB draft will take place in.....
a teleconference.
Well, Hochevar, who probably would not have been the first pitcher taken a year ago, is considered to be much more talented than any of the pitchers who will be taken this year. But the hitters are *really* a lot worse than a year ago - Jay Bruce, who went #12 to the Reds a year ago, would probably be the first position player taken this year, and Ellsbury would likely have been top-10.
-- MWE
Drabek claims he doesn't drink anymore - he got into trouble every time he tried it. He might be telling the truth. But no team wants to pay millions to discover the next Josh Hamilton.
I did. It wasn't much more specific; a drunk-in-public charge, a single-vehicle crash in which he totalled his expensive SUV, and hot-headedness on the field (Delmon Young/Elijah Dukes revisited, perhaps?).
-- MWE
As for Hochevar, BA had him right behind Pelfrey for the top pitching spot on their last draft tracker (supposedly based on talent, not where guys will be picked) - I didn't think the gap was that great.
The NFL draft isn't a teleconference because they have the team's equipment managers sitting at tables with football helmets on them? The first round of the MLB draft will take less time than it takes to draft four players in the NFL draft.
The 15 dumbest minutes in sports are the 15 minutes the first team gets to make their selection - since they have held that pick since Thanksgiving or so.
a teleconference.
Yea, but when was the last time the NFL draft had a woman butt in and say "I think I'm in the wrong teleconference."
That ranked extremely high on the Unintentional Comedy Rating.
That is funny.
This could be old news, but Milton Loo signed with Cincy.
I feel bad for the guy, he's gonna get so much flak about that in the locker rooms of Pro Baseball.
I feel bad for the guy, he's gonna get so much flak about that in the locker rooms of Pro Baseball."
I wonder how Ronald Prettyman is holding up
Remember kids, "more expensive" != "better"
My Royals first round draft list for tomorrow.
Timothy Lincecum
Brad Lincoln
Lincoln has good control and he could be a dependable starter.
There aren't any real pitching superstars in this draft.
As for Luke Hochevar: Brien Taylor. Todd Van Poppel. Rick Ankiel. Ben McDonald. Matt Anderson. Matt White.
Anybody got an example of a pitcher who was a Boras client when he was drafted who made anything of his career in the last 15 years (from 1991 until now)?
And I would expect Lincecum to produce more on the major league level than Miller.
Granted, Lincecum's progress could be stunted by some morons that want to make him a reliever.
And for anyone who has an opportunity, listen to Tommy Lasorda make the Dodgers' picks. That....is fantastic.
No, I just closed it. It should still be searchable, according to Jim.
-- MWE
I changed it back to "Open" - so it's still visible in the blog - and disallowed additional comments.
-- MWE
That is funny.
In my APBA league with fictional players, I've added a player with Longoria's skills to the draft.
His name?
Terrence Hatcher.
This could be old news, but Milton Loo signed with Cincy."
Shane Keough to the As too
/baseball geek
I'm so confused!
Yes, and just about every article about him mentions that he's not related to the other one.
-- MWE
Callis has the Royals taking Miller, the Rockies following with Longoria, and Lincecum dropping down to #15.
Over at Sox Therapy, we've been looking over some really excellent draft studies done by Philly, a poster here and at SoSH. His draft studies are the best I've seen.
Among many different topics, he's looked at
typical talent by round picked, and done the HS v. C thing. It's really good stuff.
How'd you pull that off, Fabian?
Could anybody tell me about Matt Antonelli? All I know about the draft is I don't want Huff and I'd sell my non-existant children for Hochevar or Drabek to fall that far (and I know there's no chance of either).
Way to throw away your pick on a guy that you're not going to be able to sign!
Would he really hold out for another year?
If Miller isn't picked 1st, how far does he fall?
3B out of Wake Forest. Polished player, solid college hitter, not much upside. Blue Jays have been rumored for months to be taking him at #14, but they have since been backing away.
Drabek could. There have been some reports that he'll fall all the way out of the first round.
The latest rumor is that if Beato is available at #21, the Yankees will take him.
-- MWE
I won't believe that he's signed until it happens.
Would [Hochevar] really hold out for another year?
With Satan Boras as your agent, anything is possible.
-- MWE
Drabek could. There have been some reports that he'll fall all the way out of the first round.
The latest rumor is that if Beato is available at #21, the Yankees will take him.
Maybe there's more to his story then, but I don't see the big deal about Drabek's problems. I knew a lot of dicks/idiots in HS and he doesn't seem that bad really. If he does fall the Yankees better not pass him up.
Would Beato be an overdraft there?
I tend to think that most great athletes are complete ######## at age 17. If someone's actually dropping 10+ draft slots because of character, it's probably a big deal.
Should have at least taken Sowers.
As wildly amateur fans, basically all we have to judge a draft on are reflected opinions. If those opinions form a good concensus, that's better than if they don't. If your team has a good history of smart drafting, you can stack that up against hte concensus and feel good. If your team's record stinks (say, if you're a Royals fan), then overdrafts are discouraging.
Some of the "code words" that have been tossed around would make you believe that the "s" word was a potential factor - that and the fact that absolutely no one would talk about anything other than "makeup issues" in the broadest sense of the term.
-- MWE
Billy Butler wasn't a bad overdraft.
The point wasn't that specific drafts have been good or bad. The point is that if a fan wants to say anything interesting about his team's top draft picks, the only information that can be used for comparison and evaluation is the general concensus of reflected opinion. So, overdrafts look worse than non-overdrafts.
-- MWE
Too bad they don't have the scouting report up for Danny Almonte, who's on the first page of that link.
I know a pitcher in 05 got compared to Dreifort.
I believe this is the same scout who discovered Louis Sockalexis.
It's brilliant!
Is XM carrying the draft this year?
19 years old, third in the league in doubles, third in the league in hits, only 32 strikeouts in 220 at bats, and he's pretty good defensively. Yes, he is built like a fire hydrant.
They should be, probably on XM 189 (which doesn't have a game until late).
-- MWE
Interesting. Pedro Beato didn't sign with the Mets (reportedly he wanted 1.2M and they offered 800K), and he isn't in the first round anymore. So, how much money did he cost himself?
Kiker's makeup problems.... what the hell are they?
# Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 06, 2006 at 12:05 PM (#2053376)
He's addicted to rouge.
There will be no funnier exchanges in this thread.
and WHAT is a "makeup" problem (besides wearing purple lipstick)
Overall, I've been happy with Kenny Williams' drafts, so I have faith he'll make a quality pick. Anyway, here's a list of hitters and pitchers I'd be happy with:
Pitchers
1. Kasey Kiker
2. Chris Perez
3. Colten Willems
4. Kevin Mulvey
5. Ian Kennedy
Hitters
1. Chris Marrero (Sox signed his brother as a DFE a few days ago)
2. Stephen King
3. Max Sapp
Do scouts generally mean it that way? Or do they just use those names because the prospect in question has a similar body type to that well-known player, so they know that their audience will understand the description?
Long time no see, bbc. How are you?
What's wrong with Ben McDonald? When injuries ended his career, he had developed into a really good pitcher. He did end up with the best career ERA+ of any #1 draft pick ever, so it's hard to group him with spectacular flops like Taylor or White.
Anybody got an example of a pitcher who was a Boras client when he was drafted who made anything of his career in the last 15 years (from 1991 until now)?
Kevin Brown, Andy Benes, and Mark Prior were Boras clients at draft-time. John Patterson's looking good now. It's kind of hard without a definitive list - I really have no idea when Boras was hired by Millwood or Maddux or Rogers or others.
This is actually a fairly common principle of folk magic and mysticism, universal to all human cultures: things which appear similar share a common connection, and what happens to the one will also happen to the other. For further examples, see such practices as the cconstruction of voodoo dolls, the Cargo Cults of the South Pacific, and the Gypsies' practice of spitting or treading on the shadows of those they dislike, among other things.
There's a LOT more on the subject in Sir James Frazer's seminal anthropological work, "The Golden Bough". For a brief overview, check Chapter 3's section on Homeopathic or imitative magic(Free e-text here.).
The first was Colt LaLoosh.
Plato's theory of forms. Baseball guys are really into philosphy.
There's only one: MLB.com.
-- MWE
You're going to get caught flat-footed when John Olerud's clone lights up the AL.
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