NCAA Div I Baseball Tournament
The NCAA Division I baseball tournament has started. The NCAA’s Web site has details.
College WS Pairings:
Bracket 1, Friday, June 16:
Clemson 8, Georgia Tech 4
North Carolina 7, Cal State Fullerton 5 (13)
Sunday, June 18:
Cal State Fullerton 7, Georgia Tech 5 - Georgia Tech eliminated
North Carolina 2, Clemson 0
Tuesday, June 20:
Cal State Fullerton 7, Clemson 6 - Clemson eliminated
Wednesday, June 21:
North Carolina 6, Cal State Fullerton 5 - Cal State Fullerton eliminated, North Carolina advances
Bracket 2, Saturday, June 17:
Rice 6, Georgia 4
Miami 11, Oregon State 1
Monday, June 19:
Oregon State 5, Georgia 3 - Georgia eliminated
Rice 3, Miami 2
Tuesday, June 20:
Oregon State 8, Miami 1 - Miami eliminated
Wednesday, June 21:
Oregon State 5, Rice 0
Thursday, June 22:
Oregon State 2, Rice 0 - Oregon State advances, Rice eliminated
June 24-26: North Carolina vs Oregon State, best-of-three final series, 7 PM EDT each day.
Super Regional Results:
Oral Roberts at Clemson
Clemson 11, Oral Roberts 8
Clemson 6, Oral Roberts 5 - Clemson advances
Coll of Charleston at Georgia Tech
Georgia Tech 5, College of Charleston 0
Georgia Tech 12, College of Charleston 3 - Georgia Tech advances
Missouri at Cal State Fullerton
Cal State Fullerton 7, Missouri 1
Cal State Fullerton 9, Missouri 1 - Cal State Fullerton advances
North Carolina at Alabama
North Carolina 11, Alabama 5
North Carolina 8, Alabama 7 - North Carolina advances
Oklahoma at Rice
Rice 10, Oklahoma 4
Oklahoma 11, Rice 5
Rice 9, Oklahoma 5 - Rice advances
South Carolina at Georgia
South Carolina 15, Georgia 6
Georgia 11, South Carolina 5
Georgia 11, South Carolina 6 - Georgia advances
Miami at Mississippi
Mississippi 11, Miami 9
Miami 7, Mississippi 0
Miami 14, Mississippi 9 - Miami advances
Stanford at Oregon State
Oregon State 4, Stanford 3
Oregon State 15, Stanford 0 - Oregon State advances
Regional Results:
Clemson Regional: Clemson (#1) advances.
Fayetteville Regional: Oral Roberts (#3) advances.
Lexington Regional: College of Charleston (#2) advances.
Atlanta Regional: Georgia Tech (#1) advances.
Fullerton Regional: Cal State Fullerton (#1) advances.
Malibu Regional: Missouri (#4) advances.
Chapel Hill Regional: North Carolina (#1) advances.
Tuscaloosa Regional: Alabama (#1) advances.
Houston Regional: Rice (#1) advances
Norman Regional: Oklahoma (#1) advances.
Charlottesville Regional: South Carolina (#2) advances.
Athens Regional: Georgia (#1) advances.
Lincoln Regional: Miami (#2) advances.
Oxford Regional: Mississippi (#1) advances.
Corvallis Regional: Oregon State (#1) advances.
Austin Regional: Stanford (#3) advances.
Mike Emeigh
Posted: June 02, 2006 at 04:28 PM |
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Kids a stud
Miami should be loaded next year, if they can keep their signees, including Kyle Snyder (taken by the Red Sox in the 10th round). The pitching's kept them in the ACC's second tier this year, but with all their freshman hitters back, and a strong group of pitchers recruited, they should be strong . . . if they don't go pro.
-- MWE
Clemson 24-6 (52-14 overall)
UNC 22-8 (50-13 overall)
Ga. Tech 19-11 (50-16 overall)
Miami 17-13 (40-22 overall)
Besides those three, Miami also finished behind Virginia in the regular season standings, earning the # 5 seed in the conference tournament (in which they were eliminated by losing twice in three games).
In other words, no one really saw a trip to the CWS coming for this particular Miami team. That they made it -- in combination with the impressive performances of the other three ACC teams -- is a huge indication of the strength of the conference this year.
Thats a lot of collective, conference wide choking
You mean the ACC doesn't get to retroactively claim Miami's four titles?
Guess not.
I suspect either Georgia Tech or Clemson is going to end the ACC's frustration this year.
Carolina is who I'm afraid of, their combination of dominance and depth on the mound is frighening and their offense is underrated.
Josh Horton has been Derek Jeter since high school.
Tech's been awfully dominant in the regional and super regionals. But yes, their pitching may doom them in Omaha. OTOH, I could see them bludgeoning the whole field into submission and never looking back.
And if UNC does do it, then it'll still make it an ACC year. Either way, that side of the bracket sure looks like it's on fire:
UNC, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Cal. St-Fullerton
Whereas Rice sure looks like the class of this side:
Rice, Oregon St., Georgia, Miami
And months later, UF finishes .500 and misses their CONFERENCE tournament, while Miami ends up in the CWS.
Most amazing of all, late in the year, Miami lost to an arm injury one of its best starters, Carlos Gutierrez. Gutierrez had gotten off to a great start, then fell off as his arm starting bothering him. He recently had surgery. How the heck Miami is still alive is just a mystery. Their bats just got hot at the right time, and they got a little lucky to have Nebraska fall apart in Lincoln in the regional.
And however UF got where they are now, it's also...impressive, in it's own way.
I think Clemson (in particular) and Rice got screwed because the NCAA didn't reseed. Neither should be playing another top-8 seed in the first round when three seeds from below #8 made it.
-- MWE
Maybe, but it's consistent with lots of other tournaments (including many run by the NCAA) - I don't have a problem with that.
Just because it's consistent doesn't make it right. They should reseed after every round; I can't think of a good reason not to.
Bracket 1 is much tougher than Bracket 2, IMO. You have the #1, #5, and #8 overall seeds (and CSU-Fullerton had a good argument for a higher seed, IMO), plus a team that could easily have been a top-8 seed. On the other side, you have #2, #7 who might have been overseeded, perhaps the weakest top-16 seed, and a #2 seed who didn't have a good argument to be seeded any higher.
-- MWE
I like Oregon State more than you do (though not as much as Boyd Nation's ISRs, which has them up to 4th nationally) - they've a very good rotation and Gunderson in the pen, along with an underrated, if far from stellar offense (having Graham back helps). They really lack power, but they'll largely be facing teams that don't give up a lot of extra base hits. [I guess they're a lesser version of Fullerton.] To tell you the truth, I like them more than Georgia...
This Miami Herald article does a pretty good job explaining why this Hurricane team is "subpar," and why it's so surprising it has made it this far. NCAA sanctions and scholarship limits will do that to a team.
And I'm with Mike: they should reseed. But I can think of a counter-argument, which is that if a team knocks off, say, the # 1 national seed (which this year would be Clemson) in the Super Regional, it should be rewarded for that by inheriting the favorable bracket position of facing the # 8 seed (if everything else stays true to form), instead of penalized by being re-bracketed and drawing the # 2 seed in the first round of the CWS.
hater. :)
I'll respond to this in full after Tech has gone 2 and out.
"This Miami Herald article does a pretty good job explaining why this Hurricane team is "subpar," and why it's so surprising it has made it this far. NCAA sanctions and scholarship limits will do that to a team."
Nice to see Miami operates the same way in all their sports.\
What were these violations from? I seem to remember some story about an exU pithcing coach who ran one of the big HS teams down there (Gulliver or Pace) getting in trouble for his "recruiting connections"
was this it?
I do find it interesting that Miamis recruiting has seemingly branched out the last few years, when they did fine in the past just recruiting Latin kids from Miami schools and the occasional Cali guy.
Theyve gone into suburban Atlanta (Dexter Fowler), semi rural NC (Chris Archer), St Louis (Jason Hagerty and Tekotte), Chicago (Carillo).
"...recruiting contest. The last two schools standing were Miami and Cal State Fullerton, both of which boasted proud baseball traditions. The Boston Red Sox also entered the fray, taking Pat with the 43rd pick of the draft. But when the Bosox refused to include a signing bonus in their contract offer, he settled on the Hurricanes."
Was it really common then for a top 50 pick to NOT BE OFFERED a signing bonus?
"Was it really common then for a top 50 pick to NOT BE OFFERED a signing bonus?"
No. I don't believe that allegation (which I haven't read - was that in Sam's link?).
One issue Miami had was the behavior of pitching coach Lazer Collazo (now at Louisville, interestingly enough). (link)
Or maybe he didn't mean it that way but i want to read it that way.
"One issue Miami had was the behavior of pitching coach Lazer Collazo (now at Louisville, interestingly enough). (link)"
And somehow got top 50 HSer Chris Dominguez to come from Miami, to bypass pro ball, and play a Louisville of all places. I remember I was shocked when i saw that, then i saw the connection and i was only surprised.
Of course that article alleges that his 3 Gulliver players signed w UL before he was named coach, which i dont fully believe. I assume he knew he would get that job and steered them there then signed.
"But controversy engulfed him again last spring. According to a police report, Collazo dropped his pants in front of his players after a tough loss."
This is actually awesome
No, I googled Pat Burrel (http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/Burrell/Burrell_bio.html) cos i was pretty sure he was from Cali but he birthplace was listed as Ark. so i was looking for where he went to HS cos it would have surprised me if the U recruited him out of Arkansas.
"His son is Mark Jurich, a Braves' farmhard for the Myrtle Beach Pelicans of the Carolina League."
Jurich Jr., holds some offensive records at Louisville, im pretty sure.
"holds some offensive records at UL" wasn't supposed to be preposition-ized obviously
Or maybe he didn't mean it that way but i want to read it that way."
Wrong thread. Nice
"Or maybe he didn't mean it that way but i want to read it that way."
I read it that way and was amused. I greatly prefer Bulls games myself - Five County is in the middle of nowhere, the seat angles are a little steep, and I've sat by a lot of idiots in the few games I've seen there (small sample size, though).
Jurich was good, but no Dan Kopriva, one of the first college players I ever really started to follow (scroll to his mini bio if you like).
This is actually awesome
I'm actually kind of curious to know what he said to the players to accompany the floor show. But definitely NOT curious enough to call over to the athletic department and ask. Some questions are better left unanswered.
I don't think any coach I've ever had would drop trow but I know exactly the kind of talk Callazo gave to accompany it.
Something along the lines of "Look what I've got. Do you have these? cos youre playing like a bunch of [freaking] [females]. Be men and play like men. Grow some balls, ect ect." Sort of a generic coach speech in substance, though obviously not style in this case, but it can be effective at the HS level.
What - did Dial show up in Zebulon or something?
My experience has always been that the staff workers at Five County are more approachable and that they take care of the fans a lot better. The folks at the DBAP (with occasional exceptions) tend to be less friendly.
-- MWE
Zing!
Staff: I'll defer to you on this - I all-but-never deal with them. Regardless, I'm glad I've got both clubs (and more!) as options...
By the way, congrats on the interview.
Me too. I'm going to try to get to Greensboro before the summer is out, and should neither Durham nor Carolina make the postseason (which appears likely at this point, but yanevahknow) I'll probably go to Kinston for their games.
-- MWE
and hes a tech fan, its not like they know what it takes to get to Omaha anyways, much less win much there... : )
Seven? That has to put some serious limitations on what you can do.
By RPI (thought to be biased in favor of the southeast and SEC in particular), they're the fifth best team left (Clem 1, Rice 2, GT 3, Fullerton 4, Georgia 6, UNC 7, Miami 9, OSU 22).
By ISR (thought to favor the west), they are the sixth (Fullerton 1, Rice 2, Clem 3, OSU 4, GT 5, Georgia 8, UNC 10, Miami 23).
I think UNC is better "built" for tournament play than the Bulldogs so I'd rate them ahead of you (Miller is tremendous, and Woodard/Putkonen is a decent fill-in for Bard, should he be erratic - they also have a good offense) and I think the RPI vastly underrates OSU.
I'd rate the schools: Rice/Clemson/Fullerton (order depends on my mood), UNC, Oregon State/GT, Georgia, Miami
I don't think anyone said that they don't deserve to be there - they did get a #7 seed, after all. My opinion is that they aren't as good as Georgia Tech or North Carolina, both of whom were seeded behind them. But you do have to give them props for shutting down Florida State twice when they needed to do so in order to get out of the regionals.
-- MWE
It's somewhere in the Midwest, right?
I had them pegged at somewhere between #15 and #20 going into the tournament, based on what I'd read and heard, so I don't think it underrates them all that much. I wasn't impressed with the Pac-10 this year, at all.
-- MWE
Team ERA / opponents ERA / ISR strength of schedule ranking
Georgia 4.76 / 6.44 / 26
UNC 3.30 / 6.92 / 75
GT 4.33 / 8.17 / 47
Miami 4.38 / 6.05 / 38
Fullerton 2.57 / 5.85 / 5
Rice 3.16 / 7.40 / 43
Clemson 3.21 / 6.70 / 27
Oregon St 3.43 / 6.08 / 28
The Pac-10 didn't knock my socks off either, though.
Well, seven scholarships that the NCAA knows about....
This is the seventh matchup between Tech and Clemson this year - as GT is familiar with most of the Clemson arms (and maybe because of injuries Berken suffered last week), Clemson is starting Sean Clark on the mound for only the second time all season.
Clark wasn't even on the original travel roster for the ACC tournament, only being added when Travis Storrer was hurt, but came back to pick up wins in the ACC championship game and the CWS regional opener.
Story.
-- MWE
Clark had a rough start to the contest (with GT managing four hits (and 3 runs) in the first, including a 2-run homer by Jeff Kindel), but set the Jackets down in order this inning. Meanwhile, the Tigers have been patient versus a wild Lee Hyde (walked a man each inning), but haven't knocked one in.
Clark has been great the last few innings, but has given up a walk and single to open the seventh. Ryan Hinson is entering in relief and will face Matt Wieters, who is, like, totally awesome.
Hyde, for GT, has allowed only one hit in six innings thus far.
Walk and a single for Clemson knock Hyde out of the game - Rulon coming in for Tech as the heart of the order comes up for the Tigers.
Oh, in case you want to see what a real bullpen looks like, Georgia plays at 2 tmrw : )
Hey - we found a schtick and we do it well... this one is getting deleted from my Tivo before I ever watch it. Painful.
Random assertion: UNC's Johnathan Hovis is this year's Lee Gronkiewicz.
Miami is pounding Oregon State 7-0 in the second game. Scott Maine has checked the Beavers on four hits through seven. The game is in a weather delay.
-- MWE
-- MWE
I don't know where you live but you should go to an SEC baseball game sometime. Some places sell out and its got the crowd feel of a mini-football game with the tailgating and such and the fans are generally knowledgable and passionate.
OTOH, I strongly suspect Rice is going to follow up Fullerton's triumph by sending Miami into the loser's bracket tomorrow.
I bet that's a common sentiment.
Yeah, but not everyone expresses it with the fervent hope it might have some reverse jinx effect!
-- MWE
Can also do 4,700 crunches per day
Carolinas got 3 jacks, FUllerton non.
Hmm...well, Colin. You know whats an even better strategy. Getting yourself some Jay Cox in your lineup.
Don't get me wrong, i like smallball more than 95% here and i agree that Fullertons a great team to watch and they usually get the most out of their talent offensively but Jesus sometime in your blabbering would it kill you too acknowledge that theres this other team that somehow inexplicably appears to be winning despite the fact that they can go yard.
And they are winning despite Mike Fox's scrubby, short 2b fetish (Steed starting over Shelton all year and now benching Fronk for Gore) and his insistance on making his team's top HR hitter bunt when he doesn't know how and messes the bunt up
Is that Colin Cowherd? He does a mid-morning radio show on ESPN which is gack-awful.
-- MWE
Yep its him. He "graced" the TV booth with his presence for an inning
The Tar Heels will face either Rice or Oregon State in the best-of-three final.
Assuming there was no history between the two thats just ridiculous. Its one thing to be pumped at your K and even show him up a little but to be that directly insulting for no reason is desipicable.
As a side note, Roemer has 6 walks but 23 HBPs....i wonder if he gets to 3-0 and says, #### it, im hitting this dude.
I actually kind of like that in a weird way.
Miller was tossing it up to 97 in his one batter save.
Or despicable if you prefer
You can be doing both! It's sort of a glorified game chatter . . . . Such a shame, not who won, but how UNC lost. Ouch.
And where was I? :)
No, seriously, congrats to the Beavers. College baseball is a lot of fun.
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