Southern League All-Star Game: Five Things I’ve Learned
Notes from Monday’s Southern League All-Star Game:
1. Alcedes Escobar can play.
Chris Coghlan won the MVP award - hard not to give it to the local guy whose 3-run HR broke the game open - but Escobar was far and away the best player on the field. In the first inning, he alertly took second on a run-scoring single when Rashad Eldridge overshot the cutoff man, which put him in position to score a second run on a passed ball later in the inning. In the fifth, he smacked a hard grounder through the hole to left for a single, scoring ahead of Coghlan’s bomb. He also connected solidly in his other two plate appearances, lining to left and hammering another grounder which unfortunately went right to Russell Mitchell who started a 5-4-3 DP. Escobar also converted two dazzlers on D, taking hits away from Juan Gonzalez and Ricardo Nanita, and nearly contributed a third in the ninth inning when he dove in the hole to stop Bryan Byrne’s shot but couldn’t quite get enough on the throw - the play did save a run. Milwaukee’s going to have an interesting decision to make soon - do they try to get value for Weeks or Hardy this offseason, or do they give Escobar some AAA time in 2009?
2. The Pirates are going to regret losing Todd Redmond before they regret losing Brent Lillibridge.
Lillibridge was, of course, the main prospect dealt away in the Adam LaRoche deal two years ago. But during spring training, the Pirates made another deal with Atlanta that I think they’ll have cause to regret sooner, giving up Redmond in exchange for Tyler Yates. Redmond doesn’t get high marks from scouts, but he can flat out pitch. He retired three tough hitters - Escobar, Coghlan, and Southern League HR leader Mike Wilson - blowing a low 90s heater upstairs past Wilson for strike three after WIlson ran the count full and fouled off a couple of other tough pitches. Redmond’s always had good control and decent K rates, although he does tend to work up in the zone a lot and I can see where he can be burned as a result. I’d be willing to bet, however, that had he stayed in the Bucs’ organization, he’d probably be getting a starting shot along about now.
3. There are some good pitchers in the Southern League.
All right, so I knew this already. Sue me.
Ben Jukich got the game’s Most Valuable Pitcher award. Like Redmond, he retired all three hitters he faced on six pitches. Jukich was the PTBNL in the Denorfia deal a year ago, and while he’s an older pitcher (24, turns 25 in October) from a small college, and he could stand to sharpen his command (cue the Memorex), he’s got a nice sinker that hitters can’t do much with when it’s on, and I have yet to see him pitch poorly. He’ll fit somewhere in the back of Cinci’s rotation.
James McDonald showed some good off-speed stuff that I haven’t seen from him before, and that had hitters flailing away, although he did leave one fat breaker out over the plate for Cole Gillespie to hammer (fortunately on the ground).
Brooks Brown made one bad pitch, which Doug Deeds hit about 420 feet over the scoreboard. Other than that, he was also pretty impressive.
Wade Davis, AKA Mike’s favorite Rays pitching prospect (that he has seen), didn’t fare well statistically, but he was a little bit unlucky. Leadoff hitter John Raynor hit a slicing drive down the right field line on which Jamie Hoffmann shied away from the fence; he might have been able to catch it, and perhaps would have tried harder to do so in a regular season game. Had he done so, Davis very likely would have gotten away without allowing any runs. The passed ball was all on John Jaso, who looks less and less like a catching option the more that I see him play; his footwork just isn;t getting any better.
Huntsville’s David Welch also had a six-pitch inning (three grounders), but I’m less sold on him - although in fairness this was the first time I’ve seen him pitch, so I’m going to reserve any additional comments until I see him another time.
4. The Miracle League is just that.
Take a look at the third picture here. Young Mr. Tutor received a (much deserved) standing ovation, especially when you consider that he discarded his walker about 30 feet from home plate.
The Miracle League All-Star game was far and away the best part of the festivities. The kids had fun, the players had fun, the fans loved it - great decision by the Mudcats and the Miracle League.
This is the third time I’ve attended a minor league all-star game, and the Mudcats put on the best show by far...except for:
5. Reggy and BirdZerk need to get new acts.
I’m not a huge fan of mascots anyway, but...Seeing Reggy’s Mom flirt with the umpire, and BirdZerk’s inflatable monkey and inflatable baseball, once was bad enough. Seeing them twice - and seeing the same set of routines as the first time - was torture. If you know you’re going to be in a venue multiple times in a year, at least change up the act. More to the point, the league brought in three other mascots in addition to Muddy the Mudcat, and they got almost no field time. I know that the national acts are a big deal, but why bother with them when you’ve got other talent that’s just as good?
Overall, a great evening. I hope that those of you in the Louisville area get out to the AAA game tomorrow.
Mike Emeigh
Posted: July 15, 2008 at 07:43 PM |
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Gillespie didn't have any plays that required him to make a strong throw. Both fly balls that he caught were third outs, and both hits to left were routine plays.
Salome looked OK defensively (it helped that his pitchers were mostly right around the plate), but didn't have a good game offensively. Being short (and he IS short) doesn't look like it's a hindrance to him - most long-term catchers haven't been really big guys, as Bill James noted, probably because the knees tend to go more quickly from all the up-and-down movements when you are bigger.
FWIW: The game jerseys are being auctioned off, with proceeds going to the Miracle League - there's a link to the auction on Carolina's Web site. Escobar's jersey is already up to $260.
-- MWE
I knew about him, but until looking him up right now had no idea how good a season he was having. A 22 year old hitting 345/401/529 in the Southern league is impressive. I wonder if they'll hand him Kendall's job next season or make him play AAA.
But he can hit. The Brewers have mostly pitchers oriented minor league affiliates and Angel just keeps churning out line drives. It ain't like he's getting leg hits on the infield.
Salome will start in Triple A waiting for his chance. With a young staff next, assuming CC/Ben walk, Melvin will want a veteran hand to babysit. And Kendall has a boatload of love on the current staff. They rave about the guy.
Don't be surprised if Weeks gets traded and Hardy is moved to second base with AE the new shortstop.
Doug Melvin ADORES that kid. I think he would date him if Alcides asked.......
This deal makes so much sense it won't be done. If it is, Milwaukee's fans and media will not understand it, I fear.
Pull the trigger.
That was my expected scenario, as well.
-- MWE
He is BETTER. His arm is under control. He holds onto to what he can get to. But he just doesn't have the instincts for the position. He has the athleticism.
Weeks should have been moved to centerfield three years. He can run, he has the arm and it would keep him out of harms way because he is injury-prone.
But he wanted to play second, the Brewers needed someone to play second and it was part of the plan.
If he hit like he did the first two months of 2006 or the last two months of 2007 you could live with the defense. But he hasn't shown that level of consistency.
He's the Brewers position player equivalent of Dave Bush in that there are things there to like but the path to get there drives you nuts.
The last season and a half Rickie has played in 195 games and scored 145 runs. That's a better ratio of runs/game than Jose Reyes. He has stolen 38 bases in 43 attempts. His OBP over that same timeframe is .354. He has dropped his strikeout rate as a percentage of at bats from 28.3 to 23.3.
These are all good things. And the Brewers keep waiting and waiting and waiting for it JUST......COME......TOGETHER.
I just get the feeling Doug Melvin is going to hope for a second half hot streak and then sit down this offseason with Ash and the front office folks and determine what to do with this guy.
'Cause he's a tough one...........
SO upset I was too busy that day to come to this. I was really looking forward to it.
Having seen him in college and the minors now (the last three teams the guy has played for have all been within 2-3 hours of each other, and his hometown) I feel safe in saying John Raynor is a really overlooked prospect. I remember seeing him in college for the first time and there was a catcher (Hatcher) on his UNC-W team that was getting the draft hype but Raynor is the one the left me thinking "Who is this guy? Why isn't he being talked about?".
He just screams "ballplayer" to me. I know that sounds kind of cliche but Raynor is average or above in every facet of the game. He runs very well and is a great basestealer, he throws well, he has good gap power and makes some really hard contact. Line drives just jump off the bat. Plus he is (ok, seems to be) a "grinder" type, which I can't not like. He is really skinny, but isn't weak. He has that wiry, athletic strength and some height.. really built more like a basketball player or white BJ Upton. He has some early career Steve Finley in him, both in build and tools (although Raynor strikes out a little more). Finley was also, like Raynor, a mid-round senior pick out of a 2nd tier college. I can also see some Curtis Granderson in him when I think of best-case scenarios.
I've seen him enough (and his stats reflect this) that I don't think I've just happened to see him on good nights, he just always happens to spray hard line drives, run fast and play D.
He doesn't have too much "star potential" but he should at least become a good reserve OF and probably a real quality starter.
The Brewers control him for a while. And if leaves after hitting free agency to be a shortstop so be it.
But nothing will happen until the offseason. Doug does this stuff in November, not July.
With all the money coming off the books how about the Crew signing Ellis, let AE get AAA time, and then trade JJ after 2009?
Truthfully (sorry to mini-hijack the thread Mike), I'd rather they trade JJ now with a lot of teams looking for an SS and JJ on a hot streak. JJ is like Weeks to me, they both look horrible, like they shouldn't even be in the majors, for months at a time, then they have a good couple weeks and their numbers are respectable or even good. Maybe a lot of players are like that, but it sure is noticeable (and frustrating) in their cases. If the team waits till after 2009, it's just as likely (imo) that he'll have finished the season on a 4 month streak of suck and his value will be low. They won't trade him after getting Sabathia, but I think it would be smart.
Now, if they did trade him, Alcides probably isn't quite ready. Bill has been terrible at 3rd this year, but I wonder if a platoon of him and Counsell at short could be ok for a couple months. Move Dillon into Bill's half of the platoon at 3rd.
Wo means "where", while wer means "who".
maybe, but "wo ist salome?" is a famous section (song? not sure what the terminology is) in the opera Salome by Richard Strauss. I've been a fan of the opera ever since the Brewers drafted Angel. Maybe if they draft a guy named Madama Butterfly I'll finally be able to get into Puccini. ;)
I expected it, and it's not a hijack. Although I really thought more people would want to talk about mascots :)
If you do that, you make whichever one you sign virtually untradeable once Escobar is ready - and he may not be very far from being ready. Do you really want to limit your flexibility by doing that?
If it were me, I'd be inclined to wait until the offseason to make any moves, and then see what the market will bear for either Weeks or Hardy (preferably the former). I don't think the Brewers will get a decent return now, and it wouldn't hurt Escobar to leave him in the minors for a few more months. I'd even consider trying to package Weeks and Hall to get a quality front line starter, if Gamel's defense has improved enough - I'll have more to say after Huntsville is here next week.
-- MWE
maybe, but "wo ist salome?" is a famous section (song? not sure what the terminology is) in the opera Salome by Richard Strauss. I've been a fan of the opera ever since the Brewers drafted Angel. Maybe if they draft a guy named Madama Butterfly I'll finally be able to get into Puccini. ;)
Damn. What's funny is, I initially didn't post that, figuring it was a reference of some sort, but then after a bunch of people just started talking about Salome as if he'd asked "Who is Salome?" I went for it.
Indeed.
I'd planned on going to the game as well, but alas... story of my season.
I also like Raynor a great deal (relative to his pub, at least), though if he can't play center (as his minor league range #s suggest, not that that's worth putting _too_ much stock into), that really cuts down on his potential big league role.
Hey - at least Salome has stopped producing errors by the truckload and reduced his passed ball totals to merely 'high' (9 so far this year). He's still giving up reams of steals (haven't seen him this year - in the past, I thought his arm was fine, he just needed to work on how he got rid of the ball).
Wonder who that was? I didn't see which scouts were here.
There were about a dozen scouts in the park tonight when the game was called, and I suspect there will be more when Jacksonville gets here next week.
-- MWE
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