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Wednesday, December 05, 2007

38 Pitches: Schilling: Want to know what a player thinks about trades like this?

Curt Schilling: The Iron Crosschecker.

Understand before I make the following comments that I think highly of every player being named in this deal. I have more knowledge of the major league players other than Phil Hughes than I do the prospects. There is a recurring theme out there that Melky Cabrera is a far superior piece of the pie here than Coco Crisp. A claim I would argue adamantly against. First off Melky is a career .275 hitter to Coco being a career .280 hitter. Now we all know that batting average is one of the last statistics newer front offices will table during a players evaluation. There is OBP, SLG, OPS, K/BB and more.

...Offensively you are talking about one guy who homers about every 91 abs. Coco homers about twice as much. Melky gets on base a bit more (.11%), while Coco outslugs him by more than 20 points. Given that he’s got about 1400 more career ab’s that’s no small thing. So for someone to say that there is a wide disparity in talent I think is seriously reaching here.

Repoz Posted: December 05, 2007 at 05:27 AM | 7 comment(s)
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   1. BeanoCook Posted: December 05, 2007 at 06:40 AM (#2635163)
How do you feel about being the #3 pitcher?
   2. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: December 05, 2007 at 06:45 AM (#2635165)
Curt's just trying to cover his ass in case the trade doesn't go through, in which Coco might pull a drive-by because Curt was dissin' him.
   3. shoewizard Posted: December 05, 2007 at 07:50 AM (#2635172)
I first heard about the trade to the Orioles as I was walking to the bullpen to pitch a game in AA and happened to pass by a TV and saw my name scrolling across the ticker, “The Orioles have traded Mike Boddicker to the Boston Red Sox for OF Brady Anderson and RHP Curt Schilling”, BOOM!

This rings false.
   4. Lou Potent Potables (Dan Lee) Posted: December 05, 2007 at 08:46 AM (#2635183)
This rings false.

You're tellin' me. Nobody in the world* ran a ticker in 1988. Maybe it was ESPN's 28/58 update or something.

* - this is pure speculation, but it sure as heck wasn't something I ever saw 19 years ago.
   5. There's a chill wind blowing in Misirlou's soul Posted: December 05, 2007 at 08:57 AM (#2635190)
..Offensively you are talking about one guy who homers about every 91 abs. Coco homers about twice as much. Melky gets on base a bit more (.11%), while Coco outslugs him by more than 20 points. Given that he’s got about 1400 more career ab’s that’s no small thing. So for someone to say that there is a wide disparity in talent I think is seriously reaching here.

Coco is 4 years older. I wonder how much that really matters here?

So if you look at the next 3-4 years I would think you might project Melky to possibly get better? Coco is in those ’prime’ years according to BP and Bill James. He’ll get older but the years he’s under contract are years that position players usually peak at.


I think Curt makes a good case for Melky here, unwittingly though it may be. They're nearly equal as hitters, perhaps a slight edge to Coco, but Coco's in his prime age while Melky is just 23. Wouldn't that imply that Coco is about as good as he's going to get while Melky has room for growth, in precisely the 3-4 relevant years?

He seems to imply that in "prime years", a player magically jumps up to unprecedented performance, and thus Coco is a better bet to out-perform Melky for the next 3-4. I think that is totally backwards.
   6. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: December 05, 2007 at 09:05 AM (#2635193)
This comment is awesome:
on 04 Dec 2007 at 11:54 pm4
fenway23vito
curt you pretty much just pyro-blasted anyone who tried to manipulate your words the last 2 days! rock on brother. and remember to play WoW in moderation we dont wanna see you outta shape again this spring!
   7. Esoteric roots for the two worst teams in baseball Posted: December 05, 2007 at 02:06 PM (#2635619)
I think he's soft-pedaling the analysis on Lester for obvious reasons (teammate, natch), but I absolutely love his in-depth look at the trade. I'll be very disappointed if Schilling's blog ever goes dark.
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