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14: McGraw, right? I don't actually know ... I'm working off foggy memories here.
He got plenty of people their teams. He could have gotten Johnny Fontane that movie role too.
I'm not sure raking in $14 million qualifies as a thankless job.....................or maybe it's just a well-compensated thankless job.
I just wanted to be the first to claim lack of responsibility for any vandalism that might occur.
Is the increased size due to HgH or steroids?
23: I dunno. Nobody (almost nobody) likes Selig or, say, Bettman - but David Stern has more than a few fans*, people generally liked (I think) Rozelle, etc... I'm not saying I categorically disagree w/ you, mrams, but - well - Selig is not a popular guy.
* It'll be interesting to see how their upcoming CBA battle will change things but that's for another thread.
Objectively, Selig hasn't done a horrible job. If only he could get rid of the DH!
That's really not much of an indictment. In his 18 years in the Commissioner's chair, one franchise moved; the major leagues expanded by four teams; and almost all of the others (Selig's whining notwithstanding) have thrived.
If you compare that with the NFL, NBA and NHL, baseball has done the best job of screwing the taxpayers over in order to build new stadiums without actually departing from markets that would not give in to the extorsion.
In the Selig era, a lot of new (mostly better) ballparks were built, the attendance figures have grown substantially and prices and revenues and player salaries are all much higher. That's why the owners have kept him on the job. That's why they pay him so much (though I don't really think he deserves as much as he makes).
Most fans like his smaller innovations*: interleague play, the unbalanced schedule, the wild card, etc. But even if you don't like those, you can't argue they have resulted in fewer fans going to games.
I think the biggest relative harm for baseball in his era has been the decline of the game as a popular TV show. Most of that is due to the vast increase in channels and hence alternative programs. Yet some of it is due to the slow-down in the pace of the game, which he has failed to solve.
*I don't know anyone who likes the All-Star game change, making it determine the home field advantage in the WS.
You've just made a compelling argument as to why the statue should be seated. At least that way, Milwaukeeans will have a ready made excuse.
There is plenty of legitimate stuff that you can criticize Selig for, but this claim frankly has always been B.S. The players voluntarily chose to walk off the job on August 12, which left the owners and players not much more than a month to be able to reach an agreement in time to preserve the playoffs, which was never realistically going to happen at that point.
Well, basketball teams play in arenas which can be easier used for multiple purposes, so there seems less need for extortion.
I think it beats what we had.
Interleague play, in contrast, is the a blight on the baseball landscape.
I don't know if I really "like" it, but I don't mind it. I don't really care how World Series home field advantage is determined. But clearly it has to be determined some way, and this way is fine.
Thank god they've finally addressed the issue.
You could argue that they've resulted in fewer fans going to games than the number who would have gone in the absence of such "innovations" (i.e. that growth, while positive, was not as high as it would have been under better leadership).
And the ASG is hardly Selig's only small innovation that indisputably ended in a cow flop. He also brought us Spider-Man bases, and third alternate home jerseys that look like dog #### (example), and litigation aimed at killing fantasy baseball, and playoff games on channels nobody gets (like ABC Family), and seven hundred kazillion painfully soulful and momentum-killing renditions of "God Bless America" in the seventh inning of otherwise enjoyable Sunday games.
He's a plague upon this earth, and if there were any justice in the world, they'd load him into a space capsule and fire it into the sun to keep him from getting his own personal brand of leprosy all over the national pastime.
Not in Seattle...
Speaking of which, as an actual Seattle Pilots fan, I still haven't forgiven Selig for stealing my team.
A statue of an owner/administrator is just plain silly. 99% of fans couldn't care less about Selig, and I know no one paid to see him at the ballpark.
According to the new Bert Bell biography ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAY (full disclosure: I am mentioned in its acknowledgements), he was pretty beloved by everybody in the NFL, and adored by the 1950s press...
That jersey looks cool as ####.
If I had the power to decide this, I would insist that it look exactly like Dr. Rockzo putting his hand in Murderface's pants in the scene in Metalocalypse. Perhaps it is good that I don't have that power...
Great. With him, there almost wasn't major league baseball in Minnesota. #### Selig in the ear. I'll never forgive Selig for suggesting contracting the Twins when they were fifteen times better than the ####### Brewers at the time.
There is another way to look at Selig's ill-fated contraction plan for Minnesota--that without it, they would not have won approval for their new ballpark and would have left.
It was Bud and his bud's threat of contracting the team that amped up the political pressure which got the Pohlad plan through.
Almost everyone agrees that the HHH Dome sucks. I presume the new park will generate more revenues and thus will secure the Twins in Minnesota for a very long time. Thus, without his Budness, the Twins might have left for some other market (as the Expos, the other "contraction team" did).
The red sleeveless one? Are you sure you clicked the right link?
Which would be a much more salient point if I hadn't just posted a link a day or two ago about how the New Minnesota stadium's never going to pay for itself with baseball alone, so they're already trying to talk people into paying for the privilige of getting married there on off-days.
Ye gods! A seven-foot Selig! Won't somebody think of the children?
YES!!!!!!!
Point 2:
Primey for post #1. (Not mine. DCW's.)
Where would they go? What other city is going to commit millions of dollars for a new ballpark in this economic climate?
And without Hitler there would be no Holocaust survivors.
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