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Since this is the Internet, I guarantee that someone, somewhere, is turned on by that idea.
The rights to http://www.bigpapist.com were just purchased 15 minutes ago.
True, but just about every offensive player besides Doumit seems to be underachieving right now, no? Haven't seen them play enough- I'll defer to you on this.
Duh, I was working on 5/6th of the season. Apologies. Call it 12 wins.
For fanciers of plus-size Catholics.
Similarly, Clemens must be juicing because he's so scared of MLB's testing that he took two months off.
LaRoche is pretty clearly underachieving, Bay is down a tick as well, and Paulino probably is as well, though he was probably a bit over his head last year. Freddy's way off his 2006 pace, but since that season's an outlier on his record AND he's got injury issues with the leg this year, I don't know that you can necessarily project much rebound there. They're also getting an unusually good offensive showing from Jack to counteract some of this, which may not be sustainable.
I don't know WHAT to expect from the pitchers. Snell and Gorz could be either partial mirages or steps forward, it seems unlikely that Duke will continue to get hammered as often as he has been but youneverknow, Armas isn't a true-talent 8+ ERA, and the pen has been better than we had any right to expect (Wasdin excepted).
Depth is also a problem, particularly for position players. AAA is mostly bare, and McCutchen's off to a very slow start at AA. If we lost someone like Bay for an extended period of time, we'd take it right on the chin.
Jon Lester 2007>>>Roger Clemens 2007.
Clemens is more likely to re injure himself than Lester is. Especially if there is a god.
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Cool. Clemens is in the clear.
Hail Satan.
The Red Sox FO didn't think so, since they were negotiating with Clemens' agents on Thursday.
They wanted him for long relief and mop-up.
I don't see how this doesn't make the Yankees better. A 2.30 with he Juice box as a home park is awfully good. He's got to lose it some time, but will it be this year? The best thing for the Yankees is that they are able to make a significant upgrade without losing any talent. A rotation of Mussina, Wang, Hughes, Clemens and Pettite will be awful good in the second half. That said, I of course, will be rooting against him and, if the steroids rumors are substantiated, I'll be laughing at all the Yankees fans at work who love to pile on Barry Bonds. The important word in that last sentence is substantiated, of course. Until we know for sure, all this steroid talk about Clemens is smoke and BS.
So why is Clemens so worried about it if Bonds and Giambi aren't? Why is Clemens so worried about it if he wasn't worried about the WBC testing?
[McCarver]Sometimes the best deals are the ones you DON'T make.[/McCarver]
But it's not at all fair to the little guy.
The little guy!!
McCarverian logic, the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Obviously, I was talking about for the season, which is a perfectly logical thing to do considering that you quoted annual salary figures. As for the balance of Abreu's deal, the point is that a whole bunch of teams whose fans cry poor whenever the Yankees make a move took on more salary than that for lesser players this past off-season.
And I didn't cuss anybody out of the blue. You practically begged for it.
I wonder if they'll get a draft pick out of this.
Do you know what David Ortiz's schedule is like? It's probably the same.
I'll file that away with the rest of the stuff you don't know.
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Re: Roger Clemens
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LOL!
But that's not the smart talk!
Interleague
2006: 2 starts (DET and MIN), 11.3 IP, 2.38 ERA, .225/.295/.275
2005: 2 starts (TOR and KCR), 13.0 IP, 0.69 ERA, .156/.269/.244
2004: 2 starts (ANA and SEA), 11.3 IP, 3.97 ERA, .273/.377/.500
Total: 6 starts, 2.21 ERA
Amen. Tired of unsubstantiated rumors and vitriolic barbs.
[Lange] Waaaaaahhhh!!!! [/Lange]
Too small of a smaple to be meaningful anyway.
Glancing at his gamelog it looks like he missed one start in September.
So what's this worth to the Yankees? Figure he puts up about, oh, 120 IP at a 3.5 ERA. What would we expect the Yankees to get instead, likely from some mix of Igawa and Rasner? Well, Igawa was projected to a 4.42 ERA, Rasner 5.02. I'd wager Igawa will exceed that, but not by much, and it looks more or less right for Rasner, as far as I can see - anyway, let's be give these two guys a 5 ERA. That means over those 120 innings, Clemens will allow something around 50 runs and Igawa/Rasner/et al around 70 - making Clemens worth about two wins over what the Yankees had in house. From a strictly academic perspective, it's a waste of resources. However, in reality, the Yankees probably just brought the divisional race back to 50/50, despite their current deficit. Best move they could have made in season.
Michael Kay, that is.
In context, he said that the music playing in the clubhouse before the game included "Rocket Man" by Elton John and "Rocket" by Def Leppard, and that made them (the players) think "Hmmm...".
Please. The league difference is real and something to be considered, but it is hardly that big a deal as some AL fans tend to think it is. Steve Trachsel has put up a 4.97 ERA last season and he's at 4.08 in the vaunted AL East. The difference isn't so large that it affects every pitcher the same way and in such a profound manner.
Clemens has been better than Roy Oswalt the last three seasons. Do you really think Oswalt would be a 5.00 ERA pitcher in the AL East?
Clemens will be fine especially since he doesn't have to face the team he is pitching for.
He started on June 22 last year. In the last six weeks of the 2006 season, he allowed 1, 1, 0, 1, 4, 0, 1, and 1 earned runs, for a 1.72 ERA. Clemens averaged 6 IP in those eight starts, which partly explains why his record was 3-2.
Clemens had six no-decisions in all of 2006; his ERA in those games was 1.75. That's deceptive, since he allowed 5 earned runs in one of those games, and 4 in the other five. He was lucky to escape the loss in the 5-run game. In the other five no-decisions, Clemens' ERA was 0.83. While Clemens ERA is unlikely to be that low in the AL East, his run support also figures to be much better than the '06 Astros gave him.
I think you should chalk it up to most people being far more objective than you are, actually...because the facts are not your friends on this issue at all.
I think the downgrade defensively Clemens will have behind him will be partially offset by the more forgiving homepark.
I think a 3.50-3.75 ERA is likely.
No "was" about it.
I watched him speaking on camera during the Yankees telecast earlier today. And you can tell just from looking at the gigantic size of his swollen head that he's got to be on the juice.
Michael Kay, that is.
Kay's head is all Rhinegold.
BOSTON GLOBE: Clemens's choice adds more fuel to the fire
And if the Red Sox had signed him?
It would have meant another month of Tavarez instead of 3
No matter what happens this year, no matter how it all turns out, Clemens pitching for the Yankees is going to be one of the big stories of 2007, both at the time and in retrospect.
I'm pretty sure his impact will be completely positive, but I concede that there is some risk of a negative impact as well. I think the odds of "insignificant" are miniscule.
Wouldn't it have been tougher to win the title in Houston than New York?
Of course you can. Not that Clemens achieves that. But you can always get better.
It was the big story for the Astros last year.
Do you contend that the Yankee addition of Clemens will not impact the final AL East standings or the playoffs in any way?
No. Didn't offer arb.
What's the biggest room in the world?
Uh...wasn't that Boggs?
Actually, I don't doubt that for a minute. All along, I've been expecting him & Pettitte to renew their vows sooner rather than later.
Maybe the Yankees have promised them their own shower stall. That'd be nice.
Clemens avoids spring training and the start of the season to avoid drug testing; drug testing that Bonds apparently beats, since we know he's using b/c he's still successful, but which Clemens cannot beat? That's your "thinking", Kevin? Maybe Clemens can't afford the good stuff? But if he can't, then how do Jason Varitek, Manny Ramirez, and Mike Lowell beat the testing?
Jim Lange...Yankee won the date.
blow me...a kiss.
So much for Cashman being fiscally conservative and building from within. Darren is right. He has no apparent virtues as a GM besides his willingness to open Steinbrenner's wallet. It will make this year all the more delicious when the spending goes unrequited once again.
This is so entertaining to read.
The Red Sox are my second favorite team. And I hate the Yankees. But your inability to give Cashman any credit is borderline myopic.
Cashman's team has finished ahead of Duquette and Epstein's teams in the regular season *every* year. And as unlikely as it may be, if the Yankees finish ahead of the Red Sox again this year, then there's no argument left.
That sounds to me like crazy talk. You can certainly debate the extent to which he changes things for them, but a team that is starting Darrell Rasner and Matt DeSalvo on consecutive days just added Roger Clemens-- and this doesn't change things for them? (And, yes, I know Rasner pitched well today. It was Rasner, right?)
And whatever Torre's faults, this seems to me at least partly another example of a bigtime player wanting to play for him. Finances may have played the bigger role-- perhaps we'll find out if details about offers from the various teams come out. But I think Torre still being there may have been a factor (Clemens has said as much, and it may actually be true).
Presumably, the Yankees offered more to get him out of bed earlier.
His friends call him the Razz. Or at least that's what I would call him if I were his friend.
And, yes, he's the one who pitched well this aftrenoon.
You've got massive resources, your starting pitchers have been dropping like flies, and you spent some of your resources on a player who can help this season, yet only requires a one-year commitment and you lose no talent acquiring.
Decisions like that get people FIRED, I tell you :P
Raskolnikov clearly said regular season.
LOL. Right: the Yankees haven't been winning; Cashman hasn't completely overhauled a bankrupt farm system; he hasn't completely invigorated international scouting. Is there anything else you don't know that you'd like to share with us? Getting Clemens is a no-brainer for all these teams. Sorry your team lost on that. Does he guarantee anything? Only that every game he pitches for them will be an even greater media event. You're not arguing with anyone by pointing out that this doesn't mean the Yankees take the pennant.
Let him have it.
And the latest news on Hughes is that his hamstring isn't as bad as it was thought. So that gives the Yanks Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Clemens and Hughes, possibly by the start of June.
Not bad, but that's still only one fairly certain starter (Wang) and with luck another (Hughes) who's not going to need the bullpen sometime in the sixth or seventh inning in almost every outing, even on a good day. That's still a lot of pressure on what's not exactly a world class pen. Boston still has a pretty big overall pitching edge until it's shown that Clemens, Hughes and Mussina can deliver consistently. All Clemens probably does is to make it likely that the Yanks will be a big factor late in the year, and not licking their wounds and praying that Boston will fold.
All that said, this is great for baseball. Any white hot Yankees-Red Sox race is great for baseball. Let the excuses begin---I see that the crying already has.
Where has Cashman's team finished, relative to Duquette and Epstein's teams, in payroll?
Look, this isn't a black and white thing. Cashman is not an idiot and he isn't, despite what some Red Sox fans might like to believe, just a fool with a big checkbook and a long leash.
On the other hand, it's tough for me to sit here and say "Yeah, that Cashman's a great general manager" when he has, as far as I can see, basically no significant budget constraints relative to the rest of the league. Being the GM of the Yankees is like hitting in Colorado -- you lose credit for what you accomplish in absolute terms because you don't labor under all the constraints that the rest of the league does.
The only move I really don't like from this offseason is Igawa, but it's still way too early to make a good judgement on him. Also, I heard the Yankees could have had Owings instead in the RJ trade if they sent more money, which to me was a no-brainer. But I can't confirm that, and am thinking/hoping it was actually the D-Backs that refused to do so.
Among other things, bad luck with injuries.
I'm going to kindly refrain from further feeding of the troll.
I love your confidence about the Sox. I really hope for your sake that Beckett, Wake, and Schilling keep up the good start to the season.
Really. Can you keep the bad arguments to the Lounge and IRC, please, Kevin?
So the Red Sox weren't unlucky last year, they were just put together horribly?
COULD NOT. COULD NOT care less.
Why do people always screw that up? ARRRRRRGHHHHHHH.
I hate that. :P
Well, I suspect you can predict about nine-tenths of what's in it. Probably depends how much you dislike Clemens to begin with.
Why do people always screw that up? ARRRRRRGHHHHHHH.
I hate that. :P
Well, at least Schilling didn't say that he was "disinterested." That would (or should) have meant 30 days in rehab or a 3 million dollar fine.
Oh, I don't dislike him. I do think that he broke The Who's record for farewell tours today. I'm not sure how much gas he has left in the tank. When he found out, my Yankee fan friend Teen Wolf got the Johhny Nash dong "I Can See Clearly Now" off of YouTube and started dancing arounfd the house, much to the chagrin of his Red Sox fan brother. I told him not to count his Clemens before they hatch.
Hey, don't count the Who out yet. At least, if the just-Pete-and-Roger thing that happened recently still counts as the Who, but they're certainly continuing to use the name...
The new Yankee Stadium currently under construction also functions as a revenue sharing tax shelter, thus relieving the Yankees of quite a bit of cap penalty.
http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2006/0508/060.html
I think this move is an indication of an unimaginative, uninspired company man.
As opposed to what... the bold, groundbreaking swerve that was Curt Schilling?
it's not like Clemens needs the money to put his kids through college or something. He is independently wealthy and is even more free to go after non-monetary compensation than the average Joe. But he chose not to do that.
Says who? Has anybody considered the likelihood that, all things being equal, Clemens puts a value on sticking it to the team that cut him loose with rancor eleven years ago?
"Lange" is neither Jim nor Jessica but Artie, the obese comedian on the Howard Stern show who interjects a mocking "Waaaahhh!!!" when people are telling their personal tales of woe.
That's still one more original member than most 60s groups that tour under their original names have.... :P
Relative to being the team who passed on him, yeah it was groundbreaking. Your larger point is fair, but you picked a very bad example.
*bookmarks the thread*
You can make an argument about this for Pettitte, but the Yankees treated Clemens great the whole time he was with them, the whole time he was "retired", and the whole time he wa an Astro. They wanted him back but thought he was retiring.
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