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I think there's also a Prague, but don't quote me on that.
Well, Utica ORIGINALLY died when the highway system supplanted the train (which supplanted the Erie Canal) as the best shipping route to the East metropolises.
There are some places in Utica that are pretty scary when the sun goes down.
Oh HELL yes. And to be completely honest, I grew up in one of the countless small towns in the area, Oriskany, not Utica itself. Actually, I didn't even grow up in the small town, but a stone's throw from the Oneida county airport and jail, respectively.
Utica... eh, it's not heaven, but it's not the worst place I've ever been.
I can only assume this means you've been to Bakersfield CA, because after those two places, I can't even imagine where else you might be thinking.
I think there's also a Prague, but don't quote me on that.
Looking at a map of New York, I see towns of:
Marcellus
Memphis
Seneca Falls (OK, fine, Seneca comes from the tribe, not the Roman senator)
Lyons
Euclid
Phoenix
Palermo
Hannibal Center
Constantia
Lebanon
Homer
Italy
Naples
Romulus
Nile
Bath
Atlanta
South Albion (with no Albion anywhere near it)
Ovid
Geneva
Amsterdam
Paris
Dublin
Conquest
Cuba
Mexico
Monterey
Postdam
Canton
Hamburg
Barcelona
Antwerp
Limerick
Belfast
And also in NY state:
Ransomville
Fredonia
Jamestown
Kill Buck
Boston
Little America
I can only assume this means you've been to Bakersfield CA, because after those two places, I can't even imagine where else you might be thinking.
The armpit towns of Texas are so much worse. Midland, Odessa, San Angelo, Amarillo, Abilene and so on.
I almost went to RPI, until I realized that, for a little excitement, the nearest "happening" place was . . . Albany.
I settled for MIT.
Across the river from Hannibal, MO is Carthage, IL (interestingly, Carthage, MO is nowhere near Hannibal, MO) and the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi is Cairo (hell, south Illinois is called "Egypt") but there is also a Havana, IL which is right down the road from Cuba, IL. Both of these towns are an hour or two south of Peru, IL and quite a bit north of Vienna, IL
Ohio.
South Carolina too, can't leave that state out.
Was that Rockefeller's Edifice Complex?
EDIT -- Looking it up, yep.
You left out Canton, Illinois, which is my mom's hometown. There's also a Pekin.
I don't know what that means exactly, but there it is.
I'm sure you already knew this then but for anyone else who cares, the Pekin HS mascot used to be the Chinks.
The Pekin Chinks. I shtt you not
I tried chasing him but gave up quickly as I am not Flash Gordon, and a cop who happened to be around and watching offered to go get him. My mind flashed on the interior as I got out, and the pipe sitting pretty plain as day right in the cupholder, so I said thanks, but no. They held the plane for me thanks to a nice curbside checkin guy, and I had to explain to my mother when she picked me up at Logan why I had no clothes. And so I found myself outfitted with 5 days of attire and a reasonable facsimile of dress clothes from the TJ Maxx in Worcester.
(This was the day JFK Jr's plane went down, too, and my mom warned me not to crack any jokes at the reception because of where we were. First cigarette after dinner, this old guy I've never met looks at me and says "Why didn't Carolyn Kennedy take a shower before she got on the plane? Because she figured she'd just wash up on shore.") Without a doubt top 5 weirdest days of my life, and the Worcester TJ Maxx was a big contributor.
Other Illinois towns:
Cicero
Geneva
Batavia
Harvard
Virgil
Malta
Lisbon
Manhattan
Marseilles
Normandy
Versailles
Paris
Albion
Athens
New Athens (nowhere near IL's Athens. Or Greece's for that matter)
Sparta (actually, pretty close to New Athens)
Waterloo
Eden
Homer
Arthur
Anna (nasty town - makes Pekin look pleasant)
St. Elmo
Petersburg
Atlanta
Orion
Hanover
Carthage
Cuba
Cerro Gordo
Little America
Illiopolis
Metropolis
Bunker Hill
Trenton
Philadelphia
New Philadelphia
Vermont
Virginia
and, of course, Lincoln.
Added "bonus" the town of Romeoville was originally called Romeo - a name given it because it was so close to Joliet. Romeo and Joliet - get it? Get it? GET IT?!??! No, it's not very funny.
Cicero
Zion
Geneva
Lake Zurich
Batavia
Romeoville (right next to Joliet)
Crete
South Holland (no Holland proper)
Frankfort
Genoa
Antioch
Lombard
Glencoe
Hebron
Belgium
Milan
Venice
Sparta
Milan
Versailles
Berne
Geneva
Siberia
Algiers
Morocco
Mexico, Peru and Birmingham
(those three are in Miami County, also home to Miami, Santa Fe, Denver and, so close, Chili)
Brazil
Lebanon
Delphi
Valparaiso
Moscow
Warsaw
Angola
Albion
Vera Cruz
Sardinia
Hobart
Munster
Hanover
Petersburg
Alexandria
Poland
Plymouth
Holland
Ireland
Cuzco
Perth
Mecca
Montezuma
Florence
Carthage
Dublin
Cuba
Apparently, we are running out of place names. In the US there are 14 Milans, 10 Perus, 7 Cubas, 13 Genevas, 12 Moscows, 10 Warsaws, 14 Parises, ...
I don't know what that means exactly, but there it is.
It means you should swing by the Lounge and see if we can finally determine what is and what is not the Midwest and what the criteria to determine that should be.
Ooh, Missouri is one of the states we can't agree on.
Bakersfield is terrible, but Fresno is a) the meth capital of the country, with all the crime that goes along with it, b) a completely boring place with nothing to do, and c) 100 degrees all the time. Bakersfield and many other towns out there hit (b) and (c), but (a) puts Fresno over the top.
Its only redeeming value is that it's the closest city to Sequoia/Kings Canyon, but even that's California close, not actual close.
Dunno about that. You can smell Jacksonville all the way to Atlanta.
I always thought East St. Louis wins the title in a lot of rankings.
I don't know much about the Midwest, but can confidently assert that Branson, MO is not only the end of the Midwest but of civilization itself.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And throw in Myrtle Beach, too, while you're at it. Both stinking tourist hellholes and traffic nightmares.
Don't forget Vanessa Williams and Dick Clark. And Marv Albert.
May God have mercy on our souls.
God knows.
So it's a little bit Boise and a little bit Minneapolis?
Not so fast. Syracuse also produced Joe Biden, Bob Costas, Len Berman, Sean McDonough, and Mike Tirico.
Don't forget Vanessa Williams and Dick Clark. And Marv Albert.
Syracuse University producing these folks is not the same as Syracuse itself producing them.
Someone like Tom Cruise was produced by the actual area, and seems like it.
I though Hawai'i was the home of methamphetamine. And the high desert.
Oh ####, we're already there on the endless loop of arguments? I have stuff to do this weekend, but this means Bivens and I are due up for another union spat in the next 24 hours.
Also, have you guys seriously gotten this far in talking about the worst city in America and nobody has mentioned ####### Little Rock?
I was driving from NY to CA with a friend once and we had dinner at a McDonalds that I recall seemed to somewhat overlook downtown. As we ate, exhausted from that day's drive, we slowly realized that the only customers in the McDonald's besides the two of us were three different one-armed men (different arms gone, different lengths of remainders), each sitting alone, at separate tables around the restaurant.
We immediately got the #### out of there.
But that's what you get for eating at McDonald's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meth_capital_of_the_world
I have a diseased mind.
Hah. Wait till you try the Lake Effect snow in Buffalo.
Don't forget the Armenians. They are, or were when I was growing up, often sneeringly referred to as Fresno Indians.
Don't forget the Armenians. They are, or were when I was growing up, often sneeringly referred to as Fresno Indians.
Have you ever seen Bill Dwyer (that's not spelled right, but the former host of Battlebots) standup routine about living in a predominantly Armenian neighborhood? If not, recommended, as it's hilarious, and I don't think I've ever met a single Armenian.
I had a girlfriend who was mostly Armenian. The only things I remember particular to the culture were marathon church services and a love of sour cream.
Dude, it's not "extraction" when you get a mail-order bride. The women come willingly. This is because the agency is careful not to let them know anything about you before they get on the plane, of course. But still.
That's mostly Puna. If they would stop this Green Harvest BS and just let them grow weed, the meth would disappear.
we should get rid of teacher unions, get rid of public schools, just have private skoolz in the richer people areas and have a huge % of the US population with no education except watching tv and of course, only special ed for people who can afford it
then we can have people teaching or not teaching their kids whatever they want. and just think how much better off the country will be.
for example, we can get all KINDS of people making sure their daughters never learn to read anything and not let them watch tv and tell them 24/7 that all they are good for is sexual vessels for Old Guys and then "marry" them off at 13.
I haven't been to that discussion, but I don't need to. The answer is here.
Who gave you my business plan? That's proprietary!
This can't be a good turn for the thread.
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