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Baseball Primer Newsblog— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand
Thursday, November 01, 2007
uhh…a thread that’ll knock you down? No, no…it’s just the latest neat bit from RJ Anderson.
Bob Gibson is without a doubt one of the most talented pitchers to grace the sport, his fastball was ethereal and his pacing methodology revolutionary. Throughout Gibson’s career he relied heavily on his fastball, and so it comes as no surprise that his Achilles’ heel would be the round tripper, giving up nearly 17 per season, although not Robin Roberts’ levels - 26 per season for 19 years - but a trend that impacted the right hander none the less.
Something funny happened to his homerun rates from 1966 on, one could argue he was finally entering his prime at age 30, and that he’d had prior success, which is true, seasons of ERAs hovering slightly above and below 3 seemed to be the norm for Gibson in a very hitter friendly ballpark. In May of 1966 the Cardinals moved into Busch Stadium II - a pitcher’s park - and Gibson would see his homerun rates drop dramatically meaning less runs meaning a lower ERA, including a season with a sub-2 ERA, simply amazing.
There isn’t a question of whether Gibson benefited from changing parks - he did - but consider it a evening out of sorts, going from hitters’ to pitchers’ parks Gibson still maintained his high level of play while reaping the goods of different stadiums suited for opposite aspects of the game. I’m not going to be one to question Gibson’s accomplishments or call his great seasons frauds because of his ballpark; instead I question how good would he have been if for the longevity of his career he would’ve had a stadium like PETCO Park positioned behind him along with seven worthy fielders?
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The author of this articles used the 1968 Dodgers scenari to fill in for his what if on PETCO park.
One thing I do miss about him: he worked fast. Get the ball back from the catcher, get the sign quick, he's ready to go NOW. A Gibson-pitched game would move right along.
... behind him along with seven worthy fielders?
Seven worthy fielders? How about Dal Maxvill at SS, Curt Flood in CF, and we'll take our chances with the other positions?
And nobody else got to. But if everybody got to play in Dodger Stadium, he would be merely among the better statistical pitchers ever, as he indeed was in real life. You could say the same of all great pitchers.
Petco might be slightly worse, but it can't be too much worse.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the study where they put Barry Lamar in the Bronx for his whole career. Give him the same benefits the Babe had. And by benefits, I mean that short porch versus a 30 foot high brick wall.
Tack on another 100?
thats my rough guess.
That would be a rotation for the ages no matter what park they were pitching in...
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