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Saturday, October 04, 2008

Bill Murray offers advice to the Cubs

“You’re on a gravy train with biscuit wheels!”

“They’re not out of it yet, it’s baseball,” said Murray, during a Friday interview with the Tribune to promote his new movie “City of Ember.”

...“You know what happened to the Cubs against the Padres? They had the Padres, and they lost two in a row. They had the Marlins, and they lost two in a row,” he said. “And if it can happen to the [Cubs], it can happen to the [Dodgers].”

The pressure, Murray said, is now on the Dodgers, which could work to the Cubs’ advantage.

“There’s a lot of pressure being the home team, and now that’s going to happen to those guys. And the Cubs will be looser and free. When you have nothing to lose, you just let it fly.”

He added: “So, you win two and you come back to Chicago—so then [the Dodgers] feel like they’re choking.”

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   1. Tripon Posted: October 04, 2008 at 02:56 AM (#2967218)
Pressure? The Dodgers are playing with house money.
   2. Stevis Posted: October 04, 2008 at 02:59 AM (#2967234)
He should just tell them whatever he told Scarlett.
   3. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: October 04, 2008 at 03:21 AM (#2967311)
It's as good of a time as any to ask: Which Bill Murray movie is your favorite?

I know I'll be in the minority, but I'll select "Groundhog Day".
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: October 04, 2008 at 03:34 AM (#2967373)
I was a caddie in real life when "Caddyshack" came out.
So not a tough one for me.....

I dig Groundhog Day, too, though.
   5. Crashburn Alley Posted: October 04, 2008 at 03:47 AM (#2967425)
William Murray is exactly who the Cubs should be taking advice from.
   6. Boots Day Posted: October 04, 2008 at 03:49 AM (#2967434)
The Cubs should all turn to Murray at once and say together, "We're ready to believe you."
   7. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: October 04, 2008 at 03:56 AM (#2967468)
I know I'll be in the minority, but I'll select "Groundhog Day".


I'll back that choice fully. I absolutely feel that Groundhog Day is one of the very best movies I've ever seen. No other comedy I've seen has ever had such a great emotional pull and it never feels hokey at all; Bill Murray's character transformation is one of the most convincing, heartfelt developments I've ever seen in a film. Very few actors could've pulled off that combination of comedy and drama, and I doubt there's anybody in recent memory that could've done it as well as Murray. Groundhog Day is truly a fantastic movie.
   8. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 04, 2008 at 03:56 AM (#2967469)
Pulling a list out of my butt with 30 seconds' reflection:

1. Rushmore
2. Tootsie
3. Groundhog Day
4. Ghostbusters
5. Garfield 2: A Tale of Two Kitties

Best Bill Murray line delivery, from the swimming pool baptism scene in "Ed Wood":

Preacher: Welcome to the fold, brother. Welcome. Praise the lord. Do you reject Satan and all his evils?
Murray: Sure.
   9. Completely Unbiased 3rd Party Lurker Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:07 AM (#2967504)
1. Ghostbusters
.
.
.

2. The Royal Tenanbaums
3. Stripes
4. Lost In Translation
5. Groundhog Day
   10. Boots Day Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:18 AM (#2967554)
Choosing Groundhog Day might put you in the minority, but only because Murray has been in so many great movies. Groundhog Day is probably his most highly regarded movie at this point, even more than his Wes Anderson movies.

Now Wild Things, that would put you in a minority.
   11. Eamus Catuli Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:19 AM (#2967560)
Groundhog Day
Lost in Translation
Rushmore
Royal Tenenbaums
Wild Things (the movie sucked, but he was great in it)

I can't believe Caddyshack doesn't sneak into the top 5. He's been in some wonderful movies through the years.

EDIT: Posted before I saw #10. I guess that's twice this week I'll be in the minority.
   12. akrasian Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:20 AM (#2967563)
I don't see Groundhog Day as being necessarily a minority favorite as Bill Murray's best movie (adjusted for amount of time on screen). It wasn't a big hit initially, but it has steadily gained ground as it has hit cable again and again. Most of the other contenders in retrospect for his best films have him in supporting roles.

Incidentally, while I've never met him, he goes to a consignment shop for a charity that my Mom runs, and apparently in person he is as nice as you could ask for, including helping move furniture around while his (now) ex-wife shopped.
   13. Chase Utley, Shooty's Favorite Robot (Joey Belle) Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:23 AM (#2967570)
Groundhog Day is wonderful.

I'll throw Quick Change out there for debate. One of the more underrated 80's comedies, and something I would be glad to watch anytime.

Lost in Translation has faced some backlash, but I reckon that's one his finer performances too.
   14. chisoxcollector Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:51 AM (#2967633)
My ten favorite Bill Murray movies:

1. Lost in Translation (Quite possibly my favorite film altogether... either this or Garden State)
2. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (I fully recognize that this is a very flawed film, but I love it anyway)
3. Rushmore
4. Groundhog Day
5. Broken Flowers
6. Ghostbusters
7. The Razor's Edge
8. Scrooged
9. Quick Change
10. Stripes

I believe I have seen every Bill Murray movie, with the exception of Caddyshack (gasp!). Also, I am not including Ed Wood, as I don't really consider that a Bill Murray movie. If I were to include it, it would probably slot in between Broken Flowers and Ghostbusters.
   15. tfbg9 Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:56 AM (#2967638)
Go Cubs. He's right. Its totally doable. Turn it into an oppurtunity
to be legends forever.
   16. CFiJ Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:57 AM (#2967640)
My favorite movie that Bill Murray is in would be Ghostbusters.

My favorite Bill Murray performance is Lost in Translation. I'm not sure I've ever seen a performance that was so evocatively "real".

But from a holistic, objective, semi-subjective point of view, I would name Groundhog Day as his best movie. The story, I think, is denser and more layered than either of the two above.

Edit: Scrooged, now that's an underrated movie.
   17. akrasian Posted: October 04, 2008 at 05:07 AM (#2967646)
Edit: Scrooged, now that's an underrated movie.

Agreed. Not his best film, but only because he's made so many great films. Well worth catching when it's shown in December on some channel or another.

Oh, and I quite agree that The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou is an excellent film, and one of his better performances. I loved how he told the crowd of environmentalists that he was going to kill the newly discovered species of Jaguar Shark for revenge, with a totally straight face. Also one of Jeff Goldblum's more hilarious roles.
   18. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 04, 2008 at 05:08 AM (#2967647)
I'm going to go with "Groundhog Day" as the best Bill Murray movie.
His performance is good enough for me to ignore Andie McDowell's terrible performance and hearing the opening strains of "I Got You Babe" over and over again.
   19. Fred Garvin is a sick f**k, guilty as charged Posted: October 04, 2008 at 05:11 AM (#2967651)
And even if we win, if we win, HAH! Even if we win! Even if we play so far above our heads that our noses bleed for a week to ten days; even if God in Heaven above comes down and points his hand at our side of the field; even if every man woman and child held hands together and prayed for us to win, it just wouldn't matter because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys from Mohawk because they've got all the money! It just doesn't matter if we win or we lose.

IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!
   20. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: October 04, 2008 at 06:26 AM (#2967666)
Chicago 0-4
NL Central 0-4
   21. Al Kaline Trio Posted: October 04, 2008 at 06:30 AM (#2967667)
I believe I have seen every Bill Murray movie, with the exception of Caddyshack (gasp!).


Noonan! NOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   22. Al Kaline Trio Posted: October 04, 2008 at 06:30 AM (#2967668)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11!!!!!!!!!111!!!1111
   23. simon bedford Posted: October 04, 2008 at 09:03 AM (#2967686)
Groundhog day for me as well, thought he was great in Ed Wood, think Rushmore was overated and thought he was very good in "all you need is cash" playing Bill Murray the K.
   24. fatchef Posted: October 04, 2008 at 09:16 AM (#2967689)
Stripes is my alltime favorite, he's right about Cubs fans. I'm going to loosen up today and watch Rich Harden(Harold Ramis) close it out.
   25. The Grich Who Stole Christmas Posted: October 04, 2008 at 09:40 AM (#2967692)
People, let us not forget What About Bob?, Kingpin and of course, Osmosis Jones and Space Jam.

I'm serious about two of those.
   26. chisoxcollector Posted: October 04, 2008 at 10:56 AM (#2967697)
What About Bob? was the last movie cut from my list of 10. I'm not a big Kingpin fan, though it does have it's moments. Osmosis Jones, ugh! Space Jam is just sort of there... I actually quite like the spirit of the movie... but a bad movie with spirit is still a bad movie.
   27. scotto Posted: October 04, 2008 at 11:25 AM (#2967702)
His performance in Tootsie deserves mention, as Gonfalon Bubble notes. He's hilarious there.
   28. bunyon Posted: October 04, 2008 at 11:38 AM (#2967705)
With each post, I'm like, yeah, that is my favorite. Next post same thing. I don't think I'd ever stopped to consider how many good movies he's done.
   29. The Curly W Theory Posted: October 04, 2008 at 11:40 AM (#2967707)
The bike-jousting scene from Quick Change is never far from my memory.

It's bad luck just seeing a thing like that.
   30. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 04, 2008 at 11:45 AM (#2967709)
Ghostbusters!
   31. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 04, 2008 at 11:48 AM (#2967710)
A Bill Murray thread!

My favorite Murray movies:

Broken Flowers (has no one else seen this?)
Ground Hog Day
Caddyshack
Stripes
Lost in Translation
Meatballs (I like 80's slob vs. snobs comedies. It's a weakness of mine.)
Tootsie
Rushmore
Little Shop of Horrors (holy crap did that scene make me laugh back in the day.)

Movies I don't necessarily love but I liked Murray's performance:

Kingpin
Ed Wood
Ghostbusters
The Life Aquatic
Hamlet
Scrooged

Movies of his I haven't seen but should check out:

Wild Things
The Razor's Edge
Where the Buffalo Roam
Mad Dog and Glory
   32. Jay Z Posted: October 04, 2008 at 12:02 PM (#2967712)
Edit: Scrooged, now that's an underrated movie.


Not in my opinion. It probably did decent business at the time, but I couldn't stand it. That was his big comeback vehicle after no one went to The Razor's Edge and Murray more or less disappeared for a few years. Murray was wrong for Scrooged; maybe Steve Martin would have been better. Maybe no one could have saved it.

Murray hasn't really made much out and out comedy since Groundhog Day, his last film with Ramis. Harold Ramis was certainly responsible for a lot of great movies as a writer. Not much of an actor.

Murray wound up getting Ghostbusters because Belushi died. Honestly, in retrospect Ramis and Ackroyd had a lot more to do with the success of that movie than Murray. Though I think Murray was better in it than Belushi would have been. I think Belushi would have struggled a bit to continue to find successful roles, more than Murray did. Of course when you base much of your persona on being dead by the time you're 30, if you don't actually die then what?
   33. RMc's grumbling has gone far enough Posted: October 04, 2008 at 12:47 PM (#2967726)
Murray wound up getting Ghostbusters because Belushi died.

I thought Ramis got his role in GB because Belushi died...oh, well.

At least by dying, John Belushi avoided the ultimate ignominy: starring in 21st-century kid's movies and/or ABC sitcoms...
   34. chisoxcollector Posted: October 04, 2008 at 12:56 PM (#2967730)
Broken Flowers (has no one else seen this?)


It was #5 on my top ten list in post 14. I absolutely love this movie!

You should definitely watch The Razor's Edge, it is quite a departure from other early era Bill Murray movies.
   35. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 04, 2008 at 12:57 PM (#2967731)
Bill Murray's character in "Kingpin" is the greatest villain in the history of movies. I'm being serious.
   36. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: October 04, 2008 at 02:30 PM (#2967771)
I am happy to see that I am apparently wrong about "Groundhog Day" in that others do enjoy it. Now I'll have something to tell my friends - the BBTF community adores the movie, so nyeah...
   37. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:09 PM (#2967812)
Murray was wrong for Scrooged; maybe Steve Martin would have been better. Maybe no one could have saved it.

Do you not remember the final scene? There's this part in his speech where he chokes up a little while saying (I think), "The miracle can happen to you!" It gets me every time I see it.
   38. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:12 PM (#2967813)
I agree with a lot of the choices here, but "The Royal Tenenbaums" was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
   39. Rough Carrigan Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:13 PM (#2967815)
Bill Murray to Cubs:

It just doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter. Even if you play so far over your heads that you get nosebleeds for a week to ten days, it just doesn't matter because all the really hot chicks are out in southern California near Dodger Stadium. It . . just . . doesn't . . matter. It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter!! It just doesn't matter!!!
   40. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:16 PM (#2967820)
Scrooged seemed like the perfect role for Bill Murray. Murray has always had a dark side while Steve Martin is mostly absurd comedy. I think that is why Murray did so well in Kingpin as Big Ern and he did well in Lost in Translation.


Almost all of his characters unlikeable people who are detached from society yet he somehow makes them interesting.

Life Aquatic
Scrooged
Groundhog Day
Lost in Translation
Mad Dog and Glory
Royal Tenenbaums
Rushmore
What about Bob
   41. Lassus: Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:24 PM (#2967824)
Life really doesn't get any better than secretly watching a Meatballs/Stripes doubleheader at age 13 on early-80's old-school HBO.
   42. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:29 PM (#2967826)
More like Porky's and Revenge of the Nerds.
   43. Lassus: Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:43 PM (#2967828)
Ugh.
   44. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:46 PM (#2967832)
I don't what you were craving when you were 13 but I certainly wasn't looking for screwball comedies on cable.
   45. Lassus: Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:52 PM (#2967834)
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, but how about Cat People? I could think of no greater reason why HBO was created.
   46. AJM Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:53 PM (#2967835)
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that

Boobies!
   47. robinred Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:54 PM (#2967836)
I'd surmise Lassus was looking for something in addition to humor with those particular flicks. That was the pre-internet porn era.
   48. Poster Nutbag, Serial (Thread-)Killer Posted: October 04, 2008 at 04:58 PM (#2967838)
"Where The Buffalo Roam" being this overlooked on these lists is very, very dis-heartening. Not only is he outstanding in his portrayal of HST, the time he spent with Hunter and filming this movie had an obviously profound effect on everything he did afterward. That being said:

1. Where the Buffalo Roam
2. Life Aquatic
3. Caddyshack
4. Scrooged/Groundhog Day (Tie)
5. Rushmore
Honorable Mention: What About Bob & Ed Wood (not enough of Murray in Wood to include it on the list)
   49. Lassus: Posted: October 04, 2008 at 05:02 PM (#2967840)
I'd surmise Lassus was looking for something in addition to humor with those particular flicks. That was the pre-internet porn era.

And Stripes was rated RRRRRRR!

That was the whole thing about the double-header. They could show the PG Meatballs before... 9, I think, and then the R Stripes afterwards. And Meatballs was a pretty dirty PG.

As far as Porky's and Revenge of the Nerds and similar stuff, I never thought they were all that funny OR titillating, even at 13.
   50. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: October 04, 2008 at 05:25 PM (#2967848)
Murray: It's because I'm white, isn't it?
Michael Jordan: Larry [Bird]'s white, so what?
Murray: Larry's not white. Larry's clear.
   51. Completely Unbiased 3rd Party Lurker Posted: October 04, 2008 at 06:04 PM (#2967868)
I can't believe Ghostbusters isn't getting more love here. Dr. Venkman is one of the great characters of all time, and a quintessential Murray performance in my opinion.
   52. Chrysler Town & Country Slaughter (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2008 at 06:41 PM (#2967884)
Concur on Where The Buffalo Roam - I thought Murray was clearly better than Depp as HST, and I still thought Depp did a fine job.

My ranking:

1. Rushmore
2. Groundhog Day
3. Kingpin
4. Royal Tenenbaums (one of my favourite ever films, but Bill is a bit peripheral to it)
5. Where The Buffalo Roam
6. Lost In Translation
7. What About Bob

Bill was my favourite actor for many years, but I soured on him a bit after Broken Flowers - I felt he was doing the same thing over and over. I'm excited he's got a new flick coming out. He is great in Hamlet. I thought Broken Flowers was very poor, and I need to watch The Life Aquatic again - I was disappointed the first time, but everyone tells me I need to see it a couple more times to enjoy it more. I should rewatch Ghostbusters again, too, and I can't believe I've yet to see Ed Wood. I doubt Bill ever did a worse film than The Man Who Knew To Little.
   53. Chrysler Town & Country Slaughter (Walewander) Posted: October 04, 2008 at 06:41 PM (#2967885)
Oh, and Stripes is awesome, but the last half hour sucked.
   54. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2008 at 06:45 PM (#2967888)
Yeah, once they leave boot camp it is basically all filler. Same with Full Metal Jacket. It is like they both ran out of ideas and had to come up with something.
   55. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: October 04, 2008 at 07:48 PM (#2967916)
The Onion's AV Club had a bit recently where someone mentioned Groundhog Day as one of those movies that people think no one else likes, but actually has a large following. Or something like that. Anyway, it's a great movie.

I'll second the idea of Life Aquatic being better on a second viewing - I wasn't keen on it initially, but laughed quite a bit on take 2. (Particularly, for some reason, at the t-shirt Jeff Goldblum wears at one point in the movie - I have no idea why, but I still think of it every now and then.)
   56. Walt Davis Posted: October 04, 2008 at 09:39 PM (#2967970)
Groundhog Day is one of those movies that pop up on basic cable constantly. You can rest assured that any movie that pops up on basic cable constantly is pretty popular. It's just one of those movies you enjoy watching no matter how many times you've seen it already.

Granted, for some reason, Die Hard is also one of those movies for me so maybe I'm not the best judge.

(Note, I dislike Willis, I dislike action movies generally, I dislike the subtext of that movie -- though am always entertained how many people miss it although it's incredibly obvious and will admit that it's so obvious I debate with myself whether it's actually self-deprecating in intent in which case I like it -- but I'm always happy killing 2 hours watching it as long as I don't have to go to any effort. Mainly Alan Rickman probably -- a brilliant over-the-top performance.)
   57. chisoxcollector Posted: October 04, 2008 at 10:30 PM (#2968051)
Granted, for some reason, Die Hard is also one of those movies for me so maybe I'm not the best judge.

(Note, I dislike Willis, I dislike action movies generally, I dislike the subtext of that movie -- though am always entertained how many people miss it although it's incredibly obvious and will admit that it's so obvious I debate with myself whether it's actually self-deprecating in intent in which case I like it -- but I'm always happy killing 2 hours watching it as long as I don't have to go to any effort. Mainly Alan Rickman probably -- a brilliant over-the-top performance.)


Until the Bourne movies came along, I've always felt that Die Hard could reasonably be called the best action movie ever made. And even to this day, I think Alan Rickman's "Hans Gruber" is my favorite screen villain.
   58. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 04, 2008 at 10:43 PM (#2968062)
<strike>Until the Bourne movies came along,</strike> I've always felt that Die Hard could <strike>reasonably</strike> be called the best action movie ever made.
   59. Walt Davis Posted: October 04, 2008 at 11:48 PM (#2968178)
It's just one of those movies you enjoy watching no matter how many times you've seen it already.

I just realized how ironic this is given the plot of Groundhog Day.
   60. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: October 05, 2008 at 12:07 AM (#2968204)
"You know what happened to the Cubs against the Padres? They had the Padres, and they lost two in a row. They had the Marlins, and they lost two in a row,”
The lesson: the Cubs always lose.
   61. Russ Posted: October 05, 2008 at 01:12 AM (#2968323)

Do you not remember the final scene? There's this part in his speech where he chokes up a little while saying (I think), "The miracle can happen to you!" It gets me every time I see it.


I agree on the greatness of Scrooged. Groundhog Day just edges it in my pantheon of Murray films. I don't want this thread to get political, but I get the same kinds of feeling when I see a really nice Barack Obama Hope/Change speech. Murray's lines about the people having trouble making their miracle happen and how we all have to try to keep helping others make their miracles happen are so genuine and touching... really filled with hope about the best in human beings. Really good stuff. So much other great stuff in that movie too... I mean, it's got Marion Ravenwood in it, for God's sake.

I've been search for a YouTube/Internet clip forever...
   62. PepTech Posted: October 05, 2008 at 04:14 AM (#2968918)
Scrooged contains three of my all time favorite movie lines, and only one of them is Murray. OK, two, but one of those isn't Bill:

"That beyotch hit me with a toaster!"
"All day long I listen to people give me excuses why they can't work. My legs hurt. My back aches. [Well-timed pause.] I'm only four."
"I got fired, my wife left me, she took our little baby daughter...[Shotgun blast]
with her."
   63. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 05, 2008 at 07:25 AM (#2968992)
Murray wound up getting Ghostbusters because Belushi died.

I thought Ramis got his role in GB because Belushi died...oh, well.


You two are confused; it was Sir Ben Kingsley who got his role in "Gandhi" because Belushi died.
   64. I can out-debate Joe Biden; Nieporent said so Posted: October 05, 2008 at 07:32 AM (#2968994)
The day that John Belushi died was one of the saddest days in entertainment history, because it gave us Jim Belushi.
   65. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: October 05, 2008 at 02:57 PM (#2969080)
The day that John Belushi died was one of the saddest days in entertainment history, because it gave us Jim Belushi.

That's something akin to a team getting rid of an in-the-prime Jose Canseco and replacing him with Ozzie Canseco.
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