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Boston Herald: Ortiz goes to bat for Barry

...but certainly not the Weyth Consumer Healthcare Co.

Ortiz has an almost willful naivete about both Bonds and steroids. He still does not believe in his heart or his head that Bonds took steroids. And even if it were proven to him, Ortiz still would not link it to what Bonds does with a baseball bat.

“To hit the frickin’ ball, the guy makes it look easy, but it ain’t. I don’t know how you can have that swing, consistently. I don’t know how steroids can do that,” Ortiz said. “There are supposed to be guys using steroids in the game, and there’s nobody close to Barry Bonds. What’s that mean? He was using the best (expletive)? Know what I’m saying?”

Ortiz is not sure how he would feel if someone ever were to prove to him that Bonds took steroids. It sounds as if it would not matter.

“I don’t look at it like that. I look at it hitting-wise, because I don’t know what steroids can do to you as a baseball player. You’ve still got to swing the bat, man,” Ortiz said. “If I ever use steroids, and then I know what the difference can be and I’m using them, I’ll tell you, ‘Yeah, whatever,’ but I don’t know what the feelings are when you use the steroids. But I can tell you how it feels to pull yourself together to swing the bat.”

Repoz Posted: May 08, 2007 at 08:56 AM | 32 comment(s)
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1. Larry Mahnken Posted: May 08, 2007 at 09:12 AM (#2358161)

“To hit the frickin’ ball, the guy makes it look easy, but it ain’t. I don’t know how you can have that swing, consistently. I don’t know how steroids can do that,” Ortiz said.

"And lord knows, I've taken enough of them!"

I kid.

2. RB in NYC (Now with Christmas Spirit!) Posted: May 08, 2007 at 09:15 AM (#2358169)

Fight the Power, Papi, Fight the Power

3. The Politics of Torre: How the HOF Really Works Posted: May 08, 2007 at 09:23 AM (#2358177)

That's the Herald, not the Globe.

4. David Nieporent Posted: May 08, 2007 at 09:23 AM (#2358179)

No, Larry, it's Kevin's job to invent fake quotes and attach them to other people's statements to pseudo-humorously insinuate they use steroids. Oh, wait, Ortiz is a Red Sock? You're right; Kevin doesn't make those accusations. Someone else has to. It's only players on other teams that use steroids in his world.

Ortiz believes people who have a problem with Bonds either never played the game or are pitchers.

“If you go to the hitters, and ask them, ‘A), What do you think about 744 home runs?’ and b), ‘You know how hard it is to hit a baseball. What do you think about that?’ The bottom line is, I don’t care what people say.”

5. JC in DC Posted: May 08, 2007 at 09:31 AM (#2358185)

I don’t look at it like that. I look at it hitting-wise, because I don’t know what steroids can do to you as a baseball player. You’ve still got to swing the bat, man,” Ortiz said. “If I ever use steroids, and then I know what the difference can be and I’m using them, I’ll tell you, ‘Yeah, whatever,’ but I don’t know what the feelings are when you use the steroids. But I can tell you how it feels to pull yourself together to swing the bat.

This is clearly tacit admission of hgh abuse. There's no other way to read the quotation.

6. JC in DC Posted: May 08, 2007 at 09:33 AM (#2358191)

I don’t look at it like that. I look at it hitting-wise, because I don’t know what steroids can do to you as a baseball player. You’ve still got to swing the bat, man,” Ortiz said. “If I ever use steroids, and then I know what the difference can be and I’m using them, I’ll tell you, ‘Yeah, whatever,’ but I don’t know what the feelings are when you use the steroids. But I can tell you how it feels to pull yourself together to swing the bat.

This is clearly tacit admission of hgh abuse. There's no other way to read the quotation.

7. Ivan Grushenko of HK in Tokyo Posted: May 08, 2007 at 10:14 AM (#2358245)

Ortiz believes people who have a problem with Bonds either never played the game or are pitchers.

So Ortiz doesn't believe Dale Murphy exists...or is a pitcher?

8. Joe C isn't Posted: May 08, 2007 at 10:15 AM (#2358252)

This is clearly tacit admission of hgh abuse. There's no other way to read the quotation.

Please tell me that you're just prodding kevin and that you aren't serious.

9. hardrain Posted: May 08, 2007 at 10:17 AM (#2358256)

Personally, I never thought Ortiz was on steriods because muscle doesn't normally jiggle as its rounding the bases.

10. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 08, 2007 at 10:25 AM (#2358263)

Ortiz is not on steroids, because the hypodermic needle hasn't been invented yet that can reach the substrata of his ass.

11. Fat Al Posted: May 08, 2007 at 10:29 AM (#2358267)

I think Ortiz is the player it would most disappoint me to find out took steroids. Him or Mariano Rivera.

12. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 08, 2007 at 10:32 AM (#2358271)

so, according to this poll, 100% of black players believe Bonds in innocent

13. Joey B. Posted: May 08, 2007 at 11:44 AM (#2358338)

With his Alfred E. Neumann "what me worry" outlook on things, Ortiz definitely has himself a guaranteed job with ESPN once his playing career is over.

14. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: May 08, 2007 at 11:48 AM (#2358341)

So Ortiz doesn't believe Dale Murphy exists...or is a pitcher?

So that's why Bonds had never heard of Ron Kittle - he never really played the game!

15. bunyon Posted: May 08, 2007 at 11:58 AM (#2358354)

Ortiz is not on steroids, because the hypodermic needle hasn't been invented yet that can reach the substrata of his ass.

Mike Piazza...oh, never mind.

16. Shooty: Now rated AAA by Moody's and S&P! Posted: May 08, 2007 at 11:58 AM (#2358355)

I think Ortiz is the player it would most disappoint me to find out took steroids. Him or Mariano Rivera.

How many deaths would it cause if Eckstein tested positive?

17. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: May 08, 2007 at 12:02 PM (#2358356)

How many deaths would it cause if Eckstein tested positive?

Nobody wants to hear that scrappiness can be found in a bottle.

18. retro-shiite Posted: May 08, 2007 at 01:18 PM (#2358469)

I think Ortiz is the player it would most disappoint me to find out took steroids. Him or Mariano Rivera.

I still find it bizarre that Turnbow tested positive. What's he weigh, about 112?

19. retro-shiite Posted: May 08, 2007 at 01:19 PM (#2358472)

With his Alfred E. Neumann "what me worry" outlook on things, Ortiz definitely has himself a guaranteed job with ESPN once his playing career is over.

Not unless someone offers Dusty Baker a managerial job.

20. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: May 08, 2007 at 02:37 PM (#2358545)

Ortiz certainly has a healthy perspective on things.

21. SugarBear Blanks Posted: May 08, 2007 at 03:08 PM (#2358570)

Even giving him credit for the ABs taken away by the walks the steroids caused, Bonds is at around 640 career HRs right now without the steroid effect (1 HR every 16.1 ABs pre-1999; 1 HR every 8.9 ABs post-1999).

Certainly laudable, but not the record, and indeed Bonds was using some pretty good (expletive), Papi.

22. chick-a-DOOM chick-a-DOOM Posted: May 08, 2007 at 05:29 PM (#2358689)

lou santangelo wants to know why that shtt don't work for him

and by the way so does alex sanchez, mike morse and a whole lot of other guys i forget their names already

23. Biscuit_pants Posted: May 08, 2007 at 05:41 PM (#2358699)

lou santangelo wants to know why that shtt don't work for him

I don't know. Just like I don't know why Zoloft makes person A feel a little better and Person B a lot better. Or why Zocor reduces person A cholesterol by 5% but person B gets reduced by 22%. My only guess is that there is a lot more to it than everyone should be an all-star if they take steroids.

24. SugarBear Blanks Posted: May 08, 2007 at 05:50 PM (#2358705)

Because Mike Morse, Alex Sanchez, et al. aren't very good baseball players. Barry Bonds is one of the best that ever lived.

Give me steroids, put me in the Olympic 100 meters, and I embarrass myself. Give Ben Johnson steroids and he runs 9.79 and shatters records.

25. SugarBear Blanks Posted: May 08, 2007 at 05:55 PM (#2358711)

In this story, by the way, Papi says he "doesn't know" whether he's used steroids.

Which means he has.

26. Biscuit_pants Posted: May 08, 2007 at 05:59 PM (#2358715)

Give me steroids, put me in the Olympic 100 meters, and I embarrass myself. Give Ben Johnson steroids and he runs 9.79 and shatters records.

Don't sell yourself short here. If I saw the guy who was going to run next to me had a hypodermic needle in his hand I might let him win, or at least beat me. So if you were in one of the middle lanes I am guessing you would be faster than at least two people

27. Cutter Posted: May 08, 2007 at 06:07 PM (#2358723)

I thought part of the reason athletes take steroids is to get over injuries quicker. That would seem to be a big advantage for any player no matter how good he is.

28. Guapo Posted: May 08, 2007 at 06:24 PM (#2358738)

Report: Papi not sure if he took 'roids

Ortiz told the Boston Herald that he could not say definitively if he had ever used performance-enhancing drugs in the past. The burly designated hitter also said that if he did, it happened when he was much younger.

"I tell you, I don't know too much about steroids, but I started listening about steroids when they started to bring that (expletive) up," Ortiz told the paper. "I started realizing and getting to know a little bit about it. You've got to be careful.

"I used to buy a protein shake in my country. I don't do that anymore because they don't have the approval for that here, so I know that, so I'm off buying things at the GNC back in the Dominican (Republic). But it can happen anytime, it can happen. I don't know. I don't know if I drank something in my youth, not knowing it."

29. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: May 08, 2007 at 07:46 PM (#2358833)

Actually, Guapo that report clearly indicates that Ortiz cannot deny that he has ever used PEDs. Accordingly, he is a cheater and any teams that he has played on should have thier rings taken away from them.

30. cic Posted: May 08, 2007 at 08:53 PM (#2358907)

The only thing kevin can do is avoid this thread like the plague.

31. Boots Day Posted: May 08, 2007 at 08:59 PM (#2358912)

I still find it bizarre that Turnbow tested positive. What's he weigh, about 112?

Maybe he used them on his hair.

32. battlekow Posted: May 09, 2007 at 07:56 PM (#2359792)

I still find it bizarre that Turnbow tested positive. What's he weigh, about 112?

Seriously? Turnbow is a pretty big dude (listed at 6'3", 210), and before he lost some weight this year, I always thought he was noticeably thick.

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