Joba.

wait ... what?

Breaking News?

Good thing he wasn't placed on waivers - he'd already be a member of the Diamondbacks.

Ignore the ERA.

He has been lousy against lefties this season, and has often given up leads that he's come in to protect. He's done okay as a long man when the team was getting blown out early this season, but overall he hasn't done the job.

Please be Joba.

He has been lousy against lefties this season, and has often given up leads that he's come in to protect. He's done okay as a long man when the team was getting blown out early this season, but overall he hasn't done the job.

agreed, but he still had some use (like you said, he was okay as a long man or mop-up reliever). There were a couple of better candidates to DFA or send to AAA (Henn and Villone come to mind). I don't get this move, although I look forward to seeing Joba the Hutt.

agreed, but he still had some use (like you said, he was okay as a long man or mop-up reliever). There were a couple of better candidates to DFA or send to AAA (Henn and Villone come to mind). I don't get this move, although I look forward to seeing Joba the Hutt.

Except Joe continually brought him in as a loogy. Villone is a better option for a long man and Henn is already in AAA. Space is needed for Joba and Giambi. Cairo should be the next to go.

okay, I didn't see that Henn was already sent down when they brought up Hughes. So I guess it came down to Villone or Myers, and they decided on Myers. That makes slightly more sense.

It is unclear at this point who would replace him in the bullpen.

Try the bullpen catcher or the groundskeeper. One of them has to be a lefty.

Ignore the ERA.

Either that, or multiply it by a factor of about three if you want to get a better idea of his effectiveness.

Has Karstens ever pitched an effective game out of the pen?

What I don't quite understand is the decision to DFA. I assume this means that: (a) The Yankees did not place Myers on waivers (since he wasn't picked up by anyone); or,

(b) The Yankees did place Myers on waivers, nobody picked him up and now the Yankees are really going to release him.

I tend to think (a) is the most likely answer, since at least one MLB team surely would be willing to claim a LOOGY for $400K..... (yes, someone could be betting that Myers ends up released and proceeds to sign him for minimum wage with the Yanks paying the difference, but it's not THAT big a difference in money if a team thought Myers was good for them).

Questions: Would Myers have been worth draft picks? Wouldn't the Yankees just be better off sucking it up and swallowing Farnsworth's load? Is this a move for Giambi or Joba? I think yes, yes, and Jason. Which is a little unfortunate...

swallow his load?

Would Myers have been worth draft picks?

Only if they offered him arbitration, which might be just a tad risky, don't you think?

Would Myers have been worth draft picks?

What FA type would he be? Is there a C level? D?

Only if they offered him arbitration, which might be just a tad risky, don't you think?

Didn't they change that in the new CBA?

What I don't quite understand is the decision to DFA.

Players are designated for assignment to make room on the 40-man roster. If the Yankees placed Myers on waivers, he'd be on the roster until he cleared waivers. And then they'd need to release someone else when they bring Giambi off of the 60-day DL on Tuesday.

What FA type would he be? Is there a C level? D?

Looking at what's out there and the history of A and B free agent relievers (think Gagne with 17 IPs over two years), I bet he would be worth picks. But the valid point was brought up that it probably is not worth offering him arbitration for fear he might accept it. I wonder how Torre feels about this, first Proctor now Myers. Cashman is forcing his hand.

Didn't they change that in the new CBA?

not if we can believe baseball america

Teams must still offer players salary arbitration to receive draft-pick compensation, though the deadline for that offer was moved up from Dec. 7 to Dec. 1.

For my money, Myers's lousy performance against LHB this year was a fluke. He shut down RHB, which wouldn't make sense if he had all of a sudden lost the ability to pitch. A lot of what was driving his platoon splits this year was BABIP. It's not like he was giving up home runs.

Not that I think a situational lefty is worth a roster spot in the first place.

Looking at what's out there and the history of A and B free agent relievers (think Gagne with 17 IPs over two years),

Except Gagne had proven talent. Mike Myers at his best is not 1/3 of Gagne.

But the valid point was brought up that it probably is not worth offering him arbitration for fear he might accept it.

That's very true, and a definite downside to offering arb. I'm just asking whether even if he was offered and declined, whether he would be worth picks.

Apparently Jim Brower has been called up. All I can say is what the ####?

Except Gagne had proven talent. Mike Myers at his best is not 1/3 of Gagne.

Well, while we all know that is true, that is not how the 'rankings' are supposed to be determined. It is supposed to be straight statistically driven. I would imagine that IP is a stat considered. Myers whip is crap, but there are many worse relievers out there.

Elias ranks all players every year, not just the FAs. So you can see here that Myers was a type B last year, and not too far from being a type A either.

It is supposed to be straight statistically driven. I would imagine that IP is a stat considered.

Apparently, they cut you beaucoup slack if you're on the DL.

Apparently Jim Brower has been called up. All I can say is what the ####?

Veteran presence! Guaranteed daily use by Torre!

so that means they had to put Brower on the 40 man roster too right? seriously what the...

Good thing he wasn't placed on waivers - he'd already be a member of the Diamondbacks.

This way he can be the Cardinals' #3 starter next week.

so that means they had to put Brower on the 40 man roster too right? seriously what the...

DFAing Myers takes him off the 40, so they had the open spot.

right and adding joba still puts over the limit, so somebody else will have to go...

Perhaps they want Chamberlain to do a couple more things down in Scranton, so they'll call up Brower now because he's eminently DFAable when Chamberlain is ready in a week or so.

Actually looking up the NY Times article (RR), it appears that:

Jason Giambi has finished his rehabilitation assignment and will join the Yankees in Toronto, probably to be activated tomorrow. The Yankees are also likely to promote Jim Brower, a right-handed reliever with a 1.65 earned run average at Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, to join the bullpen, with the top prospect Joba Chamberlain. Another veteran, Scott Williamson, was released from Scranton.

So a couple of spots will need to be shuffled.

how great would it be if they proceeded to dump kyle and cairo. all might be right with the world.

Apparently Jim Brower has been called up. All I can say is what the ####?

THE Jim Brower? No ####?

(EDIT) I was thinking of Bob Brower, who I saw hit an inside-the-park grand slam for the Rangers in Kaufmann in the late 80s.

Ya know... at that point you should have just edited the post to say something something else, because there's a lot of crazy going on in that post.

wow, havent heard Jim Brower's name in a while. I remember him as a very good reliever for a few years with the Giants, but went downhill after that.

wow, havent heard Jim Brower's name in a while. I remember him as a very good reliever for a few years with the Giants, but went downhill after that.

I heard somewhere that he hit an inside-the-park grand slam for the Rangers once.

If it's Bulldog Brower...you have a major scoop.

Ya know... at that point you should have just edited the post to say something something else, because there's a lot of crazy going on in that post.

Those who edit posts to say something else are dicks.

1) Yes, dig on you, no offense intended.
2) I do believe this.

I did it once. And you did call me a dick once!

called up Joba today to pitch tomorrow.. Karstens down by rumor.. but that won't clear up the 40 man situation.

Having Jim Brower brought back to mind makes me wonder what Tyler Walker is up to. Not wonder enough to look it up, but still.

since at least one MLB team surely would be willing to claim a LOOGY for $400K.....

And that team is the Phillies. Not that JC Romero isn't awesome, but we might want another lefty around with Matt Smith and Fat Mike Zagurski exiled for ineffectiveness.

Not sure why Model Dictator Fabio Castro is still in Ottawa.

Perhaps they want Chamberlain to do a couple more things down in Scranton.

Once you check out Steamtown, the Everhart Museum and the site of the famous banana truck accident, there isn't much else to do. They might as well just send him to Reading and he can hang out at the Stoudt's Brewery.