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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, May 09, 2008Bronx Banter: Markusen: Roy White: The Forgotten YankeeOr as Alex Belth (see you at 6, Al!) sez in the comments..."I will never take a program like Yankeeography seriously until they do shows on Yankees like Roy White.”
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Posted: May 09, 2008 at 01:46 PM | 24 comment(s)
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My recollection is that he was one of the first good players to play in Japan.
He has a charitable foundation: Roy White Foundation
One of the first good gaijin players, anyway... I imagine that Sadaharu Oh fellow was decent.
Mine, too. My father raised me by illustrating and contrasting the virtues of being Roy White against the vices of being Reggie Jackson.
I used to mimic White's batting stance all the time as a kid. But it was easy for me because I was pigeon-toed.
Really nice piece, Bruce.
Jesus Melendez?
Craig Wright on Joe Morgan
Trivia question: (easy one?) what was White's uniform number while on the Yankees?
I'm not particularly good remembering numbers, but White's is an easy one to me.
Billy didn't like Larry Gura because he was seen wearing tennis white's. Billy was an idiot.
One of the first good gaijin players, anyway...
Obviously it depends on our definition of "good," and by the time they went to Japan all these guys were over the hill (including White), but in the 1960s the following players went to play in Japan:
- Don Newcombe
- Larry Doby
- Don Zimmer
- Don Blasingame
- Willie Kirkland
- George Altman
- Dick Stuart
And undoubtedly more who I'm forgetting. White wasn't anything close to the first.
I don't think White was even mentioned in the book on the late 1970s Yankees Roger Kahn wrote a few years ago.
White did have the good fortune to stay with the Yankees long enough to win a championship. Many other "Stars of the CBS ownership years" such as Bobby Murcer, Horace Clarke and Fritz Peterson got traded away before then.
Wally Yonamine was a Japanese-American from Hawaii who starred for the Yomiuri Giants in the 1950s. He was the first American player inducted into the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame. A photo caption in this page indicated that the Ginats had several Nisei players in 1955:
Wally Yonamine photos
"The Yomiuri Giants Nisei players in 1955. From left to right, Yonamine, Jyun Hirota, Dick Kashiwaeda, and Andy Miyamoto."
Michael Lewis and Jeremy Brown.
The point made by Blackadder about James and White is particularly apt. Whenever I hear White's name now, James is one of the first people that comes to mind.
I seem to remember some friction between Martin and White, not only when Roy played, but during his Yankee coaching days. I believe he was a coach on Martin's staff, then was let go with no real reason given. I don't know what it was about White that Martin didn't like--perhaps White wasn't fiery enough--but once Billy didn't like you, it was hard to move out of his doghouse. Gura, Reggie, Ken Holtzman, and a few others know that feeling all too well.
I heard this same thing said about the guy who coached the Hall of Fame softball team.
His Japanese Wikipedia entry notes, "Although his three years with the Giants was not a long time at all, he was greatly respected by his teammates for his modest and gentlemanly character, and was later the first foreign player* invited to take part in the Veteran Giants Convention."
*This doesn't count Yonamine, I imagine, because he was born of Japanese parents.
Incidently, the Wikipedia entry has his Japanese stats:
1980 - 128 G, 469 AB, 29 HR, .284/.365/.514
1981 - 127 G, 422 AB, 13 HR, .273/.374/.422
1982 - 107 G, 338 AB, 12 HR, .296/.353/.435
NPB Career: 362 G, 1229 AB, 54 HR, .283/.365/.461
Franklin Pierce Adams got Joe Tinker into the Hall of Fame.
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