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Monday, July 09, 2007

Brothers cry foul in arrests at Shea

Now this is going too far!...Now I know we all hate those annoying telemak.............oh, way off.

Nicholas Kamparosyan, 31, and his brother Telemak, 27, of Forest Hills, have filed a lawsuit in Brooklyn Federal Court claiming they were beaten by Shea Stadium guards and then falsely arrested. But according to a host of misdemeanor charges pending in Queens Criminal Court, the Kamparosyans were seat-hopping to take photos from a better vantage point and became abusive when security guards ejected them in the third inning.

..."They were sitting in the best seats in the house, minding their own business and they got the s--t knocked out of them,” said lawyer Howard Greenberg, who is defending them in Criminal Court.

...The suit alleges the Kamparosyans were taken by guards to a tunnel area in the bowels of the stadium where they were beaten and choked.

“Take this beating like a man,” an unidentified guard told Nicholas Kamparosyan, according to the suit.

Repoz Posted: July 09, 2007 at 07:26 AM | 41 comment(s)
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1. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: July 09, 2007 at 07:02 AM (#2434521)

“Take this beating like a man,” an unidentified guard told Nicholas Kamparosyan, according to the suit.

That's one hardboiled security guard. Who talks like that (besides Humphrey Bogart)?

2. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 07:43 AM (#2434534)

And do we always believe the words of the plaintiff in a suit seeking monetary damages?

3. Estranged O Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:05 AM (#2434549)

What with the drunken idiot fans, roving bands of gloved security guards, upper-deck pissers and terrible views of the field, Shea is one crappy place to take in a ballgame.

4. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:08 AM (#2434552)

Thank-goodness the product on the field is doing well.

Is there a new stadium in the future for the Mets?

5. Estranged O Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:10 AM (#2434553)

They're building one now right next to Shea, although I don't know the opening date.

6. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:16 AM (#2434556)

I hope they build in urine-collectors hanging off the upper decks, to accomodate the fans not inclined to use the traditional bathroom set-up.

7. Estranged O Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:34 AM (#2434565)

The nicest thing I have to say about Shea is that it ranks in the top thirteen of the thirteen MLB parks I've visited. It might move up to twelve if you take into account that major league baseball hasn't been played in Camden Yards for some time.

8. Khalil Greene's Finger Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:52 AM (#2434575)

I think their new ballpark opens for the 2009 season.

9. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:54 AM (#2434579)

I suspect Rob Base was one of the two brothers.

10. Dan Szymborski

Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:55 AM (#2434580)

11. HowardMegdal

Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:57 AM (#2434581)

Wow- I am under no illusions that Shea is a beautiful park (a recent visit to CBP in Philly, a gem I've loved since it opened, only reaffirms). But I've had no experiences like those described above, and I'm usually in the upper reserved.

I did have a security guard roughly shove me against a wall and lecture me about scalping, threaten me with arrest, and only after 5 or so minutes let me go after I attempted to give away a ticket (for free, which I'm pretty sure isn't scalping) when a friend failed to show last-minute. Not a playoff game or anything, routine game. I tried to explain this, he shut me up and continued his power trip. I kept my outrage to myself- I believe the pitching matchup was Pedro vs. Webb, and I wasn't interested in missing it. Had Jose Lima been the scheduled starter, who knows what would have happened.

My point is, Shea isn't an unsafe place to see the game. And be very careful who you try to give tickets away to.

12. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 09, 2007 at 08:59 AM (#2434587)

I did have a security guard roughly shove me against a wall and lecture me about scalping,

You should've given your ticket to the guard so he could scalp it for you. And John Franco would've received a cut of the profit...

13. s.zielinski Posted: July 09, 2007 at 09:01 AM (#2434589)

Being that the incident happened in NYC, the two miscreants should be grateful that they lived to gripe about it.

14. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 09:17 AM (#2434603)

"Being that the incident happened in NYC, the two miscreants should be grateful that they lived to gripe about it."

Actually, I would think there are some cities where scalping (i.e. receiving for your product what the market would bear) would be a capital offense. Police departments-Ignore the armed robbery and assault around you, there are transactions between willing adults going on!

15. s.zielinski Posted: July 09, 2007 at 09:30 AM (#2434619)

My comment was not about the scalping but about the possibility that, once the beating started, a tragedy would result.

The sidewalk surrounding MSG would be littered with cops and scalpers before every game held there. One ran a gauntlet to get to Penn Station. Yet, I never saw anyone arrested for scalping tickets!

16. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 09, 2007 at 09:32 AM (#2434621)

Being that the incident happened in NYC, the two miscreants should be grateful that they lived to gripe about it.

The dude's name is "Kamparosyan"? Bet you he's Brown. I'm surprised he hasn't been sent to Gitmo yet.

17. shoewizard Posted: July 09, 2007 at 09:34 AM (#2434622)

The brothers' lawyers say the security guards' story is ridiculous because the Kamparosyans were sitting in IBM's corporate box in the second row behind the Mets' dugout - prime seats procured by Telemak Kamparosyan, a salesman for the computer company........

The Kamparosyans claim their tickets were seized by guards..

Well, all they have to do is find a way to prove that he got the tickets from IBM, and if he works for them, that should be pretty easy to do.

From that point forward, the rest of the Security Guards story falls apart, and these guys should win.

18. shoewizard Posted: July 09, 2007 at 09:34 AM (#2434624)

The dude's name is "Kamparosyan"? Bet you he's Brown. I'm surprised he hasn't been sent to Gitmo yet.

RTFA, there is a picture.

19. chris p Posted: July 09, 2007 at 10:07 AM (#2434655)

The dude's name is "Kamparosyan"? Bet you he's Brown. I'm surprised he hasn't been sent to Gitmo yet.

go #### yourself, wok.

20. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 10:08 AM (#2434659)

"Well, all they have to do is find a way to prove that he got the tickets from IBM, and if he works for them, that should be pretty easy to do.

From that point forward, the rest of the Security Guards story falls apart, and these guys should win."

Correct. And if they didn't get the tickets from IBM, then their story falls apart, and the Shea Stadium people should win.

21. Dingbat Charlie

Posted: July 09, 2007 at 10:23 AM (#2434676)

after viewing the photo I admit there is something kind of beatable about these two.

22. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F) Posted: July 09, 2007 at 10:36 AM (#2434693)

Nicholas Kamparosyan, 31, and his brother Telemak, 27, of Forest Hills, have filed a lawsuit in Brooklyn Federal Court claiming they were beaten by Shea Stadium guards and then falsely arrested.

I believe this is Constitutional now if done for national security purposes, and clearly, this man was a threat to our nation.

23. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:08 AM (#2434717)

Is that an Armenian name, chris p?

24. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:13 AM (#2434720)

after viewing the photo I admit there is something kind of beatable about these two.

Smugness is not the best quality to have your newspaper photo when you are complaining about getting a beatdown.

25. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:22 AM (#2434725)

I look at that picture and the image of the "two wild-and crazy guys" of Saturday Night Live fame come to mind.

26. Joey B. Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:27 AM (#2434732)

Nope, they're definitely not brown, though that one fellow does appear to have a rather nasty and painful sunburn.

27. Johnny B. Wong Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:33 AM (#2434736)

The name sounds Armenian.

Guards are lucky these guys aren't connected or they might be facing missing body parts instead of a lawsuit.

28. Swedish Chef Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:35 AM (#2434738)

The dude's name is "Kamparosyan"? Bet you he's Brown. I'm surprised he hasn't been sent to Gitmo yet.

Can't get much more Caucasic than an Armenian :-)

29. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:37 AM (#2434740)

In the true spirit of filtering every action and event through race, now don't we need to know the races of the guys who allegedly did the beating?

30. CiC Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:39 AM (#2434743)

And do we always believe the words of the plaintiff in a suit seeking monetary damages?

And do we ever?

31. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:43 AM (#2434749)

sometimes, yes we do, but as someone pointed out above, this case seems kind of easy. If indeed they were in IBM seats and the guy can point out the IBM person who gave or sold the seats to him (that person should be easy to find, no?), then this is an easy case for the plaintiffs (except maybe proving a beating, but if that happened, that is what hospitals and ER's are for) and the Mets were nuts for not settling this one quickly.

32. Johnny B. Wong Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:44 AM (#2434750)

In the true spirit of filtering every action and event through race, now don't we need to know the races of the guys who allegedly did the beating?

My guess is minority working class guys of whatever color who didn't want to take any lip off a couple of Yuppies.

Have to say I'm probably on their side, even if they shouldn't have given a beatdown. They should have just tossed 'em. That would have hurt them just as much if not more.

33. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:47 AM (#2434754)

"My guess is minority working class guys of whatever color who didn't want to take any lip off a couple of Yuppies."

Oh boy, wouldn't that be a hoot? If yuppies are now being beaten without consequence to the beaters, you can expect a long hot summer in NYC; here come the stock brokers and I-bankers, taking it to the street. I expect Al Sharpton to be on the next talk show, getting to the bottom of this one.

34. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 09, 2007 at 11:52 AM (#2434758)

RTFA, there is a picture.

Yeah that's my bad, I'd be those guys too.

35. Johnny B. Wong Posted: July 09, 2007 at 12:03 PM (#2434770)

you can expect a long hot summer in NYC

There's a link to a 30 Years Later series on Son of Sam at the bottom of the story.

Was Berkowitz the first to 'Go Postal'?

36. Rocco's Not-so Malfunctioning Mitochondria Posted: July 09, 2007 at 12:27 PM (#2434792)

And the Armenians wonder why the Turks perpetrated a holocaust against them? Sheesh....

37. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 09, 2007 at 12:38 PM (#2434812)

"Was Berkowitz the first to 'Go Postal'?"

No.

38. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 09, 2007 at 12:40 PM (#2434813)

And the Armenians wonder why the Turks perpetrated a holocaust against them? Sheesh....

The Armenians were all sneaking into the good seats at Trabzonspor and Besiktas games?

39. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: July 09, 2007 at 03:21 PM (#2434965)

I've often wondered whether the obnoxious drunk I saw get pummeled senseless by the Wrigley bleachers security guards back in the mid-80s ever sued. Or recovered enough to sue. But man, were the bleachers well behaved after that. Four punches, out cold, then dragged out by the feet. Up the steps. Ow.

40. Banta Posted: July 09, 2007 at 05:13 PM (#2435064)

This comment has been removed due to Russlan being a far more accomplished hijacker of threads.

41. bfan Posted: July 09, 2007 at 05:18 PM (#2435070)

"But man, were the bleachers well behaved after that."

Yes, I would bet no one got drunk up there for the next...half-inning?

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